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Why Do Federal Agencies Need 1 Billion Rounds Of Ammo, Delivered Before Dec 31 2012?

 
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Why Do Federal Agencies Need 1 Billion Rounds Of Ammo, Delivered Before Dec 31 2012?
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Here’s what retired Major General Jerry Curry (Ret) had to say to The Daily Caller in an article titled “Who Does The Government Intend To Shoot?”

“In the war in Iraq, our military forces expended approximately 70 million rounds per year. In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets including some that are capable of penetrating walls. This is enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen.

Is this something we and the Congress should be concerned about? What’s the plan that requires so many dead Americans, even during times of civil unrest? Has Congress and the Administration vetted the plan in public.”

“We have local police, backed up by each state’s National Guard, backed up by the Department of Defense. So in addition to all these forces why does DHS need its own private army? Why do the SSA, NOAA and other government agencies need to create their own civilian security forces armed with hollow nose bullets?”

“This is a deadly serious business. I hope I’m wrong, but something smells rotten. And If the Congress isn’t going to do its duty and investigate this matter fully, the military will have to protect the Constitution, the nation, and our citizens.”

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4 more years to kill them all...

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wtf
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wtf
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This info has been around since March.

But 60 million illiterate Obamaphone psychopaths decided to vote for al Santa anyway...
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Taken as single, disparate events,

Obama’s comments about his desire for a “Civilian National Security Force”,
or his signing of the NDAA , all while claiming before the ink was even dry that “just because he signed it into law didn’t mean he thought it was right”.
Or Obama’s previous public statements that it is his intent and prerogative, with the assistance of Senior Cabinet Officials and staff to “bypass Congress and get things done “.
Or the current issue at hand of the Federal Govt’s acquisition of 1 BILLION rounds of ammunition, while certain members of the same Federal Govt demonize gun owners and issue press releases and soundbites over large caches of ammunition being a “red flag”, and anyone of the events can be dismissed or libeled as a “conspiracy theory” not worthy of serious consideration.

But, when one endeavors to take all the individual pieces of the puzzle and assemble them as a whole, the picture that emerges upon completion comes into stark focus. In these matters, the big picture is terrifying in its implications.
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So many like to think this is about killing people in the US, or a zombie apocalypse.

Why do so few consider it's a means of gun control?

It's really quite simple. Buy out as much ammo as you can. Supply is decreased, prices rise, the general populace has less ammo available to them.
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So many like to think this is about killing people in the US, or a zombie apocalypse.

Why do so few consider it's a means of gun control?

It's really quite simple. Buy out as much ammo as you can. Supply is decreased, prices rise, the general populace has less ammo available to them.
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Ok,that could be plausible. But why then require 40 cal. Hollow Point rounds?
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They are scared shitless of what will happen to them here shortly.
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Buying them all up so we can't buy them.
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So many like to think this is about killing people in the US, or a zombie apocalypse.

Why do so few consider it's a means of gun control?

It's really quite simple. Buy out as much ammo as you can. Supply is decreased, prices rise, the general populace has less ammo available to them.
 Quoting: The Gallows


well..it doesn't really work that way.

the mfrs gear up to meet those special orders without really affecting the retail market.

how do i know this? because i see not shortage at all at this time...anywhere. Shelves are full and its only 40 days to delivery of that ammo to da gubbamint
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Since the military shoots 250,000 rounds for every dead enemy combatant, which is 1.8 billion rounds a year, you really have to wonder if these Federal agencies are such lousy shots as well...
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So many like to think this is about killing people in the US, or a zombie apocalypse.

Why do so few consider it's a means of gun control?

It's really quite simple. Buy out as much ammo as you can. Supply is decreased, prices rise, the general populace has less ammo available to them.
 Quoting: The Gallows


well..it doesn't really work that way.

the mfrs gear up to meet those special orders without really affecting the retail market.

how do i know this? because i see not shortage at all at this time...anywhere. Shelves are full and its only 40 days to delivery of that ammo to da gubbamint
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This is bang on.

I've been thinking about this for months. I can't find any logical explanation justifying that number of ammo and type of ammo
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no worries they are just trying to teach the gang bangers who will be the new civillian army how to shoot straight. they just cant grasp the idea to hold the gun right side up.
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mayb the mexican gun run was a test. obama sends the bullets to blacks n kills whites. revenge for slavery???
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Taken as single, disparate events,

Obama’s comments about his desire for a “Civilian National Security Force”,
or his signing of the NDAA , all while claiming before the ink was even dry that “just because he signed it into law didn’t mean he thought it was right”.
Or Obama’s previous public statements that it is his intent and prerogative, with the assistance of Senior Cabinet Officials and staff to “bypass Congress and get things done “.
Or the current issue at hand of the Federal Govt’s acquisition of 1 BILLION rounds of ammunition, while certain members of the same Federal Govt demonize gun owners and issue press releases and soundbites over large caches of ammunition being a “red flag”, and anyone of the events can be dismissed or libeled as a “conspiracy theory” not worthy of serious consideration.

But, when one endeavors to take all the individual pieces of the puzzle and assemble them as a whole, the picture that emerges upon completion comes into stark focus. In these matters, the big picture is terrifying in its implications.
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Damn, OP, well stated!
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So many like to think this is about killing people in the US, or a zombie apocalypse.

Why do so few consider it's a means of gun control?

It's really quite simple. Buy out as much ammo as you can. Supply is decreased, prices rise, the general populace has less ammo available to them.
 Quoting: The Gallows


And this helps how in the long term tard
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It could be coming

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Is there any actual evidence that this is true? I've heard this over and over like it's well excepted fact but haven't seen any evidence. Disinformation is a very common thing in this world.
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Here's why:

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Last term he gave guns to the Mexican drug lords. I guess they requested bullets for those guns this term. macgun
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And here’s why the U.S. has procured 1.2 billion rounds of hollow-point ammunition, according to Wiles. Moreover, according to him, the Russians appear to be correct in their assessment: the American people are so distracted by lives of entertainment, of consumption and of derelictions of civic duty, that the Russian plan to destroy America from within is quite achievable.

“Let’s not forget that the real person running [Department of] Homeland Security is not Janet Napolitano, it is Valarie Jarrett, the communist,” Wiles explains. “And her father-in-law was Vernon Jarrett, who was a close confidant of Frank Marshal Davis, Barrack Obama’s communist mentor.

“And so, I’m going to continue to say on this radio program that, I believe Valarie Jarrett and David Axelrod, and these other commies are the real architects of this sinister plan to stockpile 1.2 billion rounds of ammo throughout the country.

“That it is not for law enforcement; it is to be turned over to a communist revolutionary army in this country.”

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Actually, in conjunction with the United States government pushing for UN control over US citizenry, it makes a lot of sense.

First step, stockpile ammo for government use in the years to come.

Second step, the U.N. shuts down all ammunition manufacturing in the United States that is of "police or military caliber". No ammo will be produced in the civilian sector for .38, .40, .45, 9mm, .223, .308.
Hunting calibers will be restricted to .22 short and long rifle, 30-06, and shotgun shells.

Culmination: a largely disarmed citizenry.

This IS happening right now guys.
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Hollow points are illigal in war theatres so they are going to be used here.

Also how much lead is on this planet that they can possibly make and use all that ammo? Like 18 billion rounds in the wars is truly insane. They will really say lead has become rare and our ammo prices will go up like 100 times if were not all being shot first.
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They have to be prepared for every possible contingency,

Economic collapse... Massive civil revolts/riots/looting etc. and widespread deadly violence, in an urban/city scenario where you have small numbers of police and federal agents etc, they will be quickly outnumbered, and will need maximum killing force, just to defend themselves.

Revolution? also something like that...

Biological attack, also similar, except they will be containing (possibly infected) populations with lethal force, if necessary...

Do you really ever want to know?

Being unprepared prepared for them isn't an option, what about YOU?

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So many like to think this is about killing people in the US, or a zombie apocalypse.

Why do so few consider it's a means of gun control?

It's really quite simple. Buy out as much ammo as you can. Supply is decreased, prices rise, the general populace has less ammo available to them.
 Quoting: The Gallows


Ok,that could be plausible. But why then require 40 cal. Hollow Point rounds?
 Quoting: Elsinore


Combine your last two statements and remove any queries.

Then add to the mix the question, What good will your guns do you if someone else has bought up all of the ammo when martial law has been declared?
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Our gov is now communist and they plan to force us to accept what they say or they will kill us....
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You got a legitimate links to those POs?
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The democrat patronage and power junkies love to play with guns just as much as the republican patronage and power junkies love to play with guns.

In a world where even poor kids have laptops in school, Ipads, cell phones, facebook, broadband, when casual, full gambit sex starts in junior high, rampant obesity .....

How can you incentivize them to join the political patronage chain? give them a gun, free training and ammo. maybe even a badge in the american civil defense force. "city year"

They will remember that day of empowerment more than any traditional development milestone.
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Or Obama I planning on going to war Against Iran and has to his the fact by making the buy under dhs

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