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Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?

 
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Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
There's been over a thread an hour since the election talking about this concept, but I don't really understand the logic.

I keep hearing people saying they don't like Obama's "socialist" state, and that they object to the welfare programs in our country. They then move to the stance of "...so I'm going to quit my job because he got elected, and live off other citizens."

The part that I'm lost on: how you've criticized a behavior for years; and your new solution is to embrace it and follow suit?

To me, it sounds like:

"I'm so sick of people pissing on public toilet seats; so now I'm going to piss on every single one I see."

How does emulating what you allegedly hate prove your point?
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11/08/2012 08:55 PM
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
I've never heard anyone say that.
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
It's called frustration. Folks are still letting off steam.
"Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes the bar, well it eats you."
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11/08/2012 09:00 PM
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
LOL...worried about losing your bennies OP?
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
I've never heard anyone say that.
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When all else fails, just make stuff up.

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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
I've seen one or the other but not both in the same post from the OP.
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
Producers tired of being bled by parasites decide its easier to become a parasite too
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
LOL...worried about losing your bennies OP?
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Don't have direct welfare to lose (like all Americans I reap the benefits of food, gas, and other subsidized costs). I'm a professional in my field with over a decade of experience, and I do pretty well. The thought of not contributing is absurd to me, there are too many people in need that aren't capable of doing the same.
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
Producers tired of being bled by parasites decide its easier to become a parasite too
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See my "pissing on the seat" analogy.
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Producers tired of being bled by parasites decide its easier to become a parasite too
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They've never been producers and have always been parasites. They're just moving up or down in the parasite class.
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
Producers tired of being bled by parasites decide its easier to become a parasite too
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See my "pissing on the seat" analogy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1586972


Poor analogy. Pissing on a public seat does not injure the bystander.

Replace the pissing on a public seat with being a pickpocket and your analogy is a bit closer.

Incidentally, while I sympathize a bit with the thinking, I don't agree with the sentiment - just explaining it.
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LOL...worried about losing your bennies OP?
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The thought of not contributing is absurd to me, there are too many people in need that aren't capable of doing the same.
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It's called natural selection. Survival of the fittest. Sounds mean, but its the cold, hard truth.
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you are speaking to intelligently, they will not understand you.
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
There's been over a thread an hour since the election talking about this concept, but I don't really understand the logic.

I keep hearing people saying they don't like Obama's "socialist" state, and that they object to the welfare programs in our country. They then move to the stance of "...so I'm going to quit my job because he got elected, and live off other citizens."

The part that I'm lost on: how you've criticized a behavior for years; and your new solution is to embrace it and follow suit?

To me, it sounds like:

"I'm so sick of people pissing on public toilet seats; so now I'm going to piss on every single one I see."

How does emulating what you allegedly hate prove your point?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1586972


That is easy to explain. A couple of reasons:

1. If you work your butt off only to have your hard-earned money stolen by a bunch of lazy-ass imbeciles who think you owe it to them, then you'd have to be a fool to keep on working so they can keep on stealing from you.

2. Obama wants to be seen as Santa Claus who gives everyone free stuff. In return, of course, they vote for him. So sure that works for him. But where does all the free stuff come from? Us hard-working types! So if we quit working his booty bag is going to dry up.
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
To help destroy the evil system faster rather then watch it die slowly.
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To help destroy the evil system faster rather then watch it die slowly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27317165


This.

We're past the tipping point. Better to let Obongo go on a spending spree and crash it sooner rather than later.

If everyone would quit their job tomorrow we could fix things by the end of next week.
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you are speaking to intelligently, they will not understand you.
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You are too funny. Not
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11/08/2012 09:41 PM
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The US is in big trouble,

People must stop fighting this (D) vs (R) fight and realize it is a huge scam and the people are being raped & pillaged.

I'm frustrated too because as the US goes so goes the rest of the "Free" World

and the "FREE" World is not looking so "FREE" right about now

You all need to understand how great your constitution is and decide it is not to be comprimised ever

You all need to teach your children about the way the world is NOW instead of "Sheilding" them, if you fail to do so Union Thumping Socialist Teachers will step in and fill your children's minds with bullshit.

Lastly no matter what happens, if anyone gives up thier 2nd Amendment they are a coward & in my book have committed treason. I would die for that Amendment if I had it. Instead I get to relax until May 2015 and then the fight to even be allowed to own any gun will be on again.

Canada has 1 pro-gun party & 3 anti-gun Socialist parties.

Let me put it this way, If the NRA rated our politicians the best politician in Canada would get a "C" and Every single Politician in the 3 opposition Parties wouldn't just get a "F" they would get a Chicago/NYC/DC "F"

Please Teach the Children young about 1776 and the Constitution & how to stand up for themselves and denounce Political Correctness when they see it.

Please save your Country so mine doesen't look south and think they can go backwards too.

Canadian F
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Who is John Galt?
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
There's been over a thread an hour since the election talking about this concept, but I don't really understand the logic.

I keep hearing people saying they don't like Obama's "socialist" state, and that they object to the welfare programs in our country. They then move to the stance of "...so I'm going to quit my job because he got elected, and live off other citizens."

The part that I'm lost on: how you've criticized a behavior for years; and your new solution is to embrace it and follow suit?

To me, it sounds like:

"I'm so sick of people pissing on public toilet seats; so now I'm going to piss on every single one I see."

How does emulating what you allegedly hate prove your point?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1586972


That is easy to explain. A couple of reasons:

1. If you work your butt off only to have your hard-earned money stolen by a bunch of lazy-ass imbeciles who think you owe it to them, then you'd have to be a fool to keep on working so they can keep on stealing from you.

2. Obama wants to be seen as Santa Claus who gives everyone free stuff. In return, of course, they vote for him. So sure that works for him. But where does all the free stuff come from? Us hard-working types! So if we quit working his booty bag is going to dry up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6493463


I'm still lost on how someone currently on welfare programs is a "lazy-ass imbeciles who think you owe it to them", but people quitting their job to go on welfare are Galt-esq. If I'm reading this correctly, the people you've been complaining about for years; were actually way ahead of you and working to destroy a broken system? If they're so noble, why so much vitriol towards them?

Help me out here. I'm trying to understand, just lost on what appear to be some contradictions.
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
To help destroy the evil system faster rather then watch it die slowly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27317165


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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
Some people need an incentive to work their butts off, such as a decent salary. If the government takes away the incentive in high taxes out of the paycheck, people lose interest in working hard. What's so hard to understand about that?
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if you can't beat them ( welfare recipients ) join them... let the gov print money and hand it out ...if we are going to hell might as well enjoy the ride like the rest of them.
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Some people need an incentive to work their butts off, such as a decent salary. If the government takes away the incentive in high taxes out of the paycheck, people lose interest in working hard. What's so hard to understand about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14408911


For starters, we don't have high taxes:
[link to www.deferredconsumption.com]

What you're describing is just entitlement and laziness; I already understand those. I'm asking about people who see this as some form of rebellion, by taking part in what they claim to hate.

Why is it wrong for the current people enrolled in welfare, but noble for those that do it out of spite?
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Quote Mr Fate
America has become a nation of takers, enablers, those who think the world owes them a living, the lazy, the greedy, the stupid, the frightened and the self-interested. Freedom takes a back seat to security, a government check beats working, race hatred, envy of the prosperous, disdain for morality, celebration of 'diversity' and contempt for employers are putting us on the road to total collapse. I pity our sons, daughters and their children.
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
There's been over a thread an hour since the election talking about this concept, but I don't really understand the logic.

I keep hearing people saying they don't like Obama's "socialist" state, and that they object to the welfare programs in our country. They then move to the stance of "...so I'm going to quit my job because he got elected, and live off other citizens."

The part that I'm lost on: how you've criticized a behavior for years; and your new solution is to embrace it and follow suit?

To me, it sounds like:

"I'm so sick of people pissing on public toilet seats; so now I'm going to piss on every single one I see."

How does emulating what you allegedly hate prove your point?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1586972


Ever hear the expression.....shoveling shit uphill???

...yeah that one.....so in a nutshell....why bother.
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No matter what we do the USA is going to topple from the weight of our debt. Period, we could never in several lifetimes pay off our current debt and with the spend crazy Administration, we are going down.

So, we may as well stop being the makers, and enjoy life for a little while before the SHYF, it is going to happen no matter what, so go fishing. Take a walk, or a long road trip, do it now before it is too late.

Live for the first time in your adult life. The future of our children is set, we can't change it now, teach them everything you can, now.
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We should all go on strike. Obama lovers can understand that, going on strike. Does that make it clearer, we're going on strike?
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
Op,

I fail to understand your statement just how are those who oppose communist obama are embracing his economic destruction and following suit. Unless you are talking about communist obama‘s goal of spreading the wealth from those who create jobs and have money to those who leech from them.

Bottom line if you worked your tail off to establish your business just how hard will you work seeing your profits pissed away knowing the government will take the lion’s share and pass on the dregs.

There is nothing new here look at the old Soviet Union, North Korea and Cub to name a few glaring failures of this stupidity.
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
So what I'm hearing is that:

Previous welfare recipients were a bunch of low life scumbags that were too lazy to work, so they just sat around and let someone else do it.

Since Obama was reelected, people who previously worked; now can choose to stop working and let someone else support them because it's the right thing to do.

TL;DR- Pre-election welfare = lazy parasite, post-election welfare = enlightened Galt?

Am I getting it right?
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Some people need an incentive to work their butts off, such as a decent salary. If the government takes away the incentive in high taxes out of the paycheck, people lose interest in working hard. What's so hard to understand about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2012 Tax Rates & 2012 Tax Brackets14408911


For starters, we don't have high taxes:
[link to www.deferredconsumption.com]

What you're describing is just entitlement and laziness; I already understand those. I'm asking about people who see this as some form of rebellion, by taking part in what they claim to hate.

Why is it wrong for the current people enrolled in welfare, but noble for those that do it out of spite?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25644614


Try referring to actual tax rates and notice who reaps the benefits of tax deductions and who pays the lion's share. In my opinion, everyone should pay a set percentage thus equalizing the tax burden and add genuine fairness to the system.

2012 Tax Rates & 2012 Tax Brackets
[link to www.mydollarplan.com]

What Will the 2013 Tax Rates Look Like?
[link to www.mydollarplan.com]

IRS Income Tax Tables & Rates
[link to www.libertytax.com]

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