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Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?

 
Hawkesbay
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11/08/2012 11:25 PM

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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
Producers tired of being bled by parasites decide its easier to become a parasite too
 Quoting: CrazyEyesThreadKilla


See my "pissing on the seat" analogy.
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This is not a good analogy. In fact, it seems to indicate that you really haven't thought this through at all.

A threat to stop working and go on public assistance is a cynical response to what many think is a mindset that wants only to take from others and not to give anything in return. Have you heard the expression "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em"? It's similar. There's a lot of frustration and sarcasm being vented right now, OP.

Here's an analogy that may work a little better for you: Ten able bodied people are sitting in a wagon being pulled up hill by an overworked, tired blue-collar guy. He says "Screw this, I'm gonna sit in the wagon with you guys for a while!"

See the difference between that and the toilet seat?

In the meantime, your statement that you can't imagine not contributing appears to indicate that you can't imagine not contributing to government. That's nice, OP, but in America, government spends over $60,000 a year for each and every family with income below the poverty line. Obviously, that money is not making it in to the hands of the impoverished. I personally find this outrageous and frustrating, and I really don't want to contribute to a system that could be so senselessly inefficient, wasteful, and foolish.
"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." - T. Jefferson
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Producers tired of being bled by parasites decide its easier to become a parasite too
 Quoting: CrazyEyesThreadKilla


See my "pissing on the seat" analogy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1586972


This is not a good analogy. In fact, it seems to indicate that you really haven't thought this through at all.

A threat to stop working and go on public assistance is a cynical response to what many think is a mindset that wants only to take from others and not to give anything in return. Have you heard the expression "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em"? It's similar. There's a lot of frustration and sarcasm being vented right now, OP.

Here's an analogy that may work a little better for you: Ten able bodied people are sitting in a wagon being pulled up hill by an overworked, tired blue-collar guy. He says "Screw this, I'm gonna sit in the wagon with you guys for a while!"

See the difference between that and the toilet seat?

In the meantime, your statement that you can't imagine not contributing appears to indicate that you can't imagine not contributing to government. That's nice, OP, but in America, government spends over $60,000 a year for each and every family with income below the poverty line. Obviously, that money is not making it in to the hands of the impoverished. I personally find this outrageous and frustrating, and I really don't want to contribute to a system that could be so senselessly inefficient, wasteful, and foolish.
 Quoting: Hawkesbay


/thread.

That is all.
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11/09/2012 01:08 AM
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LOL...worried about losing your bennies OP?
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The thought of not contributing is absurd to me, there are too many people in need that aren't capable of doing the same.
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It's called natural selection. Survival of the fittest. Sounds mean, but its the cold, hard truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17162049


are you for or against abortion? i'm going to say against since that is one of the biggies for conservatives...

now take your statement + anti abortion = WTF

i have met so many pro life conservatives, that bring kids fucked up beyond any hope of ever surviving on their own ever, knowingly into this world.

those same kids grow into adults that spend the rest of their lives sucking the system dry. 24/7 care, exotic treatments, 20+ prescriptions... not 1 fucking dime paid by their family and most of those families abandon the kid when it becomes an adult...
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Who is John Galt?
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John Galt is a poorly drawn character in a really poorly written novel. Most people who read the novel grow up and leave behind childish things; some, to the great humor of the rest of us, don't leave behind childish things like Atlas Shrugged.
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Re: Can one of the Obama haters explain this to me?
Producers tired of being bled by parasites decide its easier to become a parasite too
 Quoting: CrazyEyesThreadKilla


See my "pissing on the seat" analogy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1586972


This is not a good analogy. In fact, it seems to indicate that you really haven't thought this through at all.

A threat to stop working and go on public assistance is a cynical response to what many think is a mindset that wants only to take from others and not to give anything in return. Have you heard the expression "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em"? It's similar. There's a lot of frustration and sarcasm being vented right now, OP.

Here's an analogy that may work a little better for you: Ten able bodied people are sitting in a wagon being pulled up hill by an overworked, tired blue-collar guy. He says "Screw this, I'm gonna sit in the wagon with you guys for a while!"

See the difference between that and the toilet seat?

In the meantime, your statement that you can't imagine not contributing appears to indicate that you can't imagine not contributing to government. That's nice, OP, but in America, government spends over $60,000 a year for each and every family with income below the poverty line. Obviously, that money is not making it in to the hands of the impoverished. I personally find this outrageous and frustrating, and I really don't want to contribute to a system that could be so senselessly inefficient, wasteful, and foolish.
 Quoting: Hawkesbay


You're correct with that analogy being closer, but you inverted the roles. It would be ten able bodied workers pulling the cart for one that is incapable of doing the same. That is unless, the suggestion is that you're an able bodied blue collar worker, paying $600,000 a year in taxes towards welfare programs alone. I'd leave my career in a heartbeat for a blue collar gig that paid like that.

I can't imagine not contributing because I was raised by christian parents with a hard work ethic. Their religious ideology didn't stick, but the idea of responsibility for those incapable did. You assume I mean government, but I simply mean to the rest of mankind around me. That even includes the ones I don't know, like, or agree with.

This time I have two questions, one of them is a repeat nobody wants to touch:

1) Am I correct in stating:

People on welfare before were lazy parasites, but if you quit your job to do the same blaming the Obama win; you're protesting right?

2) Could you honestly look your father in the eye and tell him this plan with any pride?

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