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??? Why Aren't Americans Pissed At The Whole Election Process???

 
ExoPoliChick
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??? Why Aren't Americans Pissed At The Whole Election Process???
Shouldn't they be?

If America is ever going to once again live up to being the world's "beacon of democracy" (I know...I know...but I do believe it was there once upon a time) it is seriously going to have to get its act together regarding the fundamental foundation of democracy: a person's vote.

Seriously, Americans should be furious at the shenanigans (putting it mildly) that occur during the entire election process, questioning the actual validity of the ballot.

OCCUPY THE ELECTION PROCESS, for crying out loud!! It's an embarrassment considering we're talking about America in the 21st century.

You have to wonder if a vote in Cuba is more reliable than a vote in America.

Afraid of communism? Start with election day corruption.



Just a few articles on the matter:

Voters at some Virginia polls waited up to five hours to cast ballots, Florida voters received phone calls from an election official telling them the wrong day to vote, and dozens of Republican poll workers in heavily Democratic Philadelphia needed a court order to get into election locations.

Read more: [link to www.washingtontimes.com]



It's hard to remember an election where scrutiny of voting has been so close. From new voter-ID laws to groups like True the Vote to truncated early voting, election issues have been at the forefront of the 2012 campaign story. Both parties have armies of poll watchers on hand and armies of lawyers in reserve for expected lawsuits, challenges, and recounts that could decide the outcome of the presidential election, as well as a welter of down-ballot races. So what's going on across the country? At this point, Pennsylvania seems to be ground zero for problems. We'll keep you updated on reports of fishiness, and if you spot anything unusual, drop us a line.

Read more: [link to www.theatlantic.com]



(National) 11/7/2012 - AMERICA'S CLAIRVOYANT ELECTION SYSTEM - Perhaps one of the oddest moments of all during last night's live election coverage was what happened to Karl Rove on Fox Network News.

With Florida still too close to call and hundreds of thousands of votes still out in Ohio (including a large hunk of votes in Romney strongholds), and with a spread of about 100,000 votes separating the candidates in Ohio, Fox called Ohio for Obama. Karl Rove arranged to come on the Fox network to voice his rebuttal.

Read more: [link to www.blackboxvoting.org]



Shouldn't Americans be pissed??

Last Edited by *Ozone Baby* on 11/08/2012 09:33 PM
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It's a mess beyond repair

The locals are involved
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11/08/2012 09:17 PM
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They keep drinking the fluoride.
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Because the GOP worked with the cabal to give us the worst candidate possible. The joke was on us. Poster boy for the 1%. If it weren't so sad, it would be funny.
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Because the GOP worked with the cabal to give us the worst candidate possible. The joke was on us. Poster boy for the 1%. If it weren't so sad, it would be funny.
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It goes beyond presidential candidate and transcends parties. Irregularities are being reported on many different levels...
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Nobody told me there'd be days like these....Strange days indeed!
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"It is our innate solidarity - not some despotism of the sky - that is our source of morality and sense of decency."
~ Hitchens

"The essence of the independent mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks."
~ Hitchens

"A mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam."
~ Sagan

I LOVE science and I LOVE space but I am hugely skeptical and don't trust a word NASA says.
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It goes beyond presidential candidate and transcends parties. Irregularities are being reported on many different levels...
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Why don't you Canadians work on getting your own country to turn into the next big bastion of democracy?

You're still overly fascinated by us.
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the people voting is just a circus

the only votes that count are the electoral college votes

"The United States Electoral College is the institution that officially elects the President and Vice President of the United States every four years. Electors are chosen by each state of the United States and by the District of Columbia, but not by other territorial possessions of the United States (such as Puerto Rico). The number of electors in each State is equal to the number of members of Congress to which the State or District of Columbia is entitled. Currently, the total number of electors is 538 - there are 435 representatives and 100 senators, plus the three electors from the District of Columbia."

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There should be a investigation into these voting machines that changes votes.
We all should see this to see if these reports are real.
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It goes beyond presidential candidate and transcends parties. Irregularities are being reported on many different levels...
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Why don't you Canadians work on getting your own country to turn into the next big bastion of democracy?

You're still overly fascinated by us.
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You know what? I actually participated in our election process as a scrutineer for my party. My job was to scrutinize how each and every ballot was handled. I have also been fortunate enough to be present during the ballot count at my polling station. I have pretty good insight on Canada's election process. Unlike you perhaps?

Why not share some intelligent insight rather than just spew insults? Oh...maybe because you don't have any. Better to keep ones words to yourself and have people think you're ignorant than express those words and remove all doubt.

Last Edited by *Ozone Baby* on 11/08/2012 09:31 PM
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Nobody told me there'd be days like these....Strange days indeed!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is our innate solidarity - not some despotism of the sky - that is our source of morality and sense of decency."
~ Hitchens

"The essence of the independent mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks."
~ Hitchens

"A mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam."
~ Sagan

I LOVE science and I LOVE space but I am hugely skeptical and don't trust a word NASA says.
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11/08/2012 09:39 PM
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The country has been dieing slowly for 100 years. I think they are happy there is someone in charge that can speed up the process and get it over with.
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11/08/2012 09:42 PM
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we are. look at Fla. 2008 FFS. look at ohio 2004 FFS.

we're just used to it now.
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we are. look at Fla. 2008 FFS. look at ohio 2004 FFS.

we're just used to it now.
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i meant Fla. 2000.
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11/08/2012 09:47 PM

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Some of us really are pissed and sick about it ExoPoli, but there is little we can do. The level of corruption is mind blowing.

I'm seriously thinking of moving. I can't stomach it here anymore.
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Some of us really are pissed and sick about it ExoPoli, but there is little we can do. The level of corruption is mind blowing.

I'm seriously thinking of moving. I can't stomach it here anymore.
 Quoting: JanJan


Not saying things are better or worse here but...
hf I really do feel for my American friends.
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Nobody told me there'd be days like these....Strange days indeed!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is our innate solidarity - not some despotism of the sky - that is our source of morality and sense of decency."
~ Hitchens

"The essence of the independent mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks."
~ Hitchens

"A mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam."
~ Sagan

I LOVE science and I LOVE space but I am hugely skeptical and don't trust a word NASA says.
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I am satisfied with the election process. I was able to vote twice for Obama.
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Because silly, it pretty much went the way MOST of us wanted.
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The country has been dieing slowly for 100 years. I think they are happy there is someone in charge that can speed up the process and get it over with.
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Results couldn't even be posted on twitter till all Canadian votes come in. Twitter had to blacken them out. Or something like that I remember.
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Some of us really are pissed and sick about it ExoPoli, but there is little we can do. The level of corruption is mind blowing.

I'm seriously thinking of moving. I can't stomach it here anymore.
 Quoting: JanJan


Not saying things are better or worse here but...
hf I really do feel for my American friends.
 Quoting: ExoPoliChick


Me too. :(
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what election.

oh, that thing we just had-----where you thought your vote would count...that one.?

When there is a whig party I will vote..
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Nobody told me there'd be days like these....Strange days indeed!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is our innate solidarity - not some despotism of the sky - that is our source of morality and sense of decency."
~ Hitchens

"The essence of the independent mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks."
~ Hitchens

"A mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam."
~ Sagan

I LOVE science and I LOVE space but I am hugely skeptical and don't trust a word NASA says.
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Needing a little revival.....
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Nobody told me there'd be days like these....Strange days indeed!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is our innate solidarity - not some despotism of the sky - that is our source of morality and sense of decency."
~ Hitchens

"The essence of the independent mind is not in what it thinks, but how it thinks."
~ Hitchens

"A mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam."
~ Sagan

I LOVE science and I LOVE space but I am hugely skeptical and don't trust a word NASA says.

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