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If the law says we can't kill each other, why is abortion different?

 
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Yeah, that's great.
Spoken like a sheep. Talking points.

You apparently don't get it either.

Let's say you're right and life begins at first breath....

... If I get an abortion at any point, will that baby take it's first breath?

It is yes or no
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Ah, so my opinion is wrong and yours is right. Very mature. No, if you get an abortion at any point, the fetus won't breath.
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It's hard for you to handle that logic eh?
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Nope. The only thing that's had for me to understand is how you think that your opinion is fact.
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It isn't opinion, it is fact. You're having a hard time with it. Embrace it.

Regardless of when life begins, an abortion ends it.

The sky really is blue.
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Is masturbation also killing life? If a woman miscarriages, should she be charged with murder because be body rejected the pregnancy?
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I'll assume you're smarter than you're letting on here. Sperm by itself won't lead to a baby. Miscarriages are not pre-meditated by the mother. Abortion is.
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Of course, I'm just fucking with people.
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If you don't know when life begins, its better to err on the side of the baby.
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It's not a baby. A seed is not a tree. An egg isn't a chicken.
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Is masturbation also killing life? If a woman miscarriages, should she be charged with murder because be body rejected the pregnancy?
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See the post about apple seeds and trees. semen contains seeds, not human life.

Miscarriage is involuntary abortion. You might have a point, maybe women who endanger their baby with drugs or other risky behavior and miscarry could be charged with manslaughter
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I'll assume you're smarter than you're letting on here. Sperm by itself won't lead to a baby. Miscarriages are not pre-meditated by the mother. Abortion is.
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Of course, I'm just fucking with people.
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If you don't know when life begins, its better to err on the side of the baby.
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It's not a baby. A seed is not a tree. An egg isn't a chicken.
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The ovum in the mothers body and sperm in the fatjers body are the seeds.

A chicken egg more represents a developing human, it will be a chicken (if allowed) but it is not part of the mothers body.
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Ah, so my opinion is wrong and yours is right. Very mature. No, if you get an abortion at any point, the fetus won't breath.
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It's hard for you to handle that logic eh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1385276


Nope. The only thing that's had for me to understand is how you think that your opinion is fact.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


It isn't opinion, it is fact. You're having a hard time with it. Embrace it.

Regardless of when life begins, an abortion ends it.

The sky really is blue.
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The sky isn't blue. It only appears blue because of the reflection of the oceans. That's a fact.
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Guns cause crime like flies cause garbage.

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Who here knows that that developing baby has a separate blood system? The mother and the baby do not share blood.

The mother and baby are separate humans, so the agruement about women having control of their own bodies is moot. They are controlling the body of another human whose body has not fully developed.
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because the law says it's o.k. to kill somebody in self-defence,
and abortion is self-defence.

dumbass.
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It's hard for you to handle that logic eh?
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Nope. The only thing that's had for me to understand is how you think that your opinion is fact.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


It isn't opinion, it is fact. You're having a hard time with it. Embrace it.

Regardless of when life begins, an abortion ends it.

The sky really is blue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1385276


The sky isn't blue. It only appears blue because of the reflection of the oceans. That's a fact.
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The sky appears blue because of of the way the atmosphere affects light waves.

Elementary science...third grade stuff

/snip/
WHY IS THE SKY BLUE?
The blue color of the sky is due to Rayleigh scattering. As light moves through the atmosphere, most of the longer wavelengths pass straight through. Little of the red, orange and yellow light is affected by the air.

However, much of the shorter wavelength light is absorbed by the gas molecules. The absorbed blue light is then radiated in different directions. It gets scattered all around the sky. Whichever direction you look, some of this scattered blue light reaches you. Since you see the blue light from everywhere overhead, the sky looks blue.



[link to www.sciencemadesimple.com]
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It's hard for you to handle that logic eh?
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Nope. The only thing that's had for me to understand is how you think that your opinion is fact.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


It isn't opinion, it is fact. You're having a hard time with it. Embrace it.

Regardless of when life begins, an abortion ends it.

The sky really is blue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1385276


The sky isn't blue. It only appears blue because of the reflection of the oceans. That's a fact.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel



You know what I'm saying. You can't admit it here but you'll think about it more and you'll get it. An abortion is one human's choice to cease another human's existence. Period.
The debate on when life begins is a red herring. The end result is always the same.
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because the law says it's o.k. to kill somebody in self-defence,
and abortion is self-defence.

dumbass.
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Nice
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because the law says it's o.k. to kill somebody in self-defence,
and abortion is self-defence.

dumbass.
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Self defense? In what way?

A woman is pregnent and decides she does not want the human growing inside her to live. That is not self defense.

Otherwise we could kill anyone we did not want to share the world with

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Hmmm?
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It is the same thing, but even worse, killing a future helpless baby.
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Nope. The only thing that's had for me to understand is how you think that your opinion is fact.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel


It isn't opinion, it is fact. You're having a hard time with it. Embrace it.

Regardless of when life begins, an abortion ends it.

The sky really is blue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1385276


The sky isn't blue. It only appears blue because of the reflection of the oceans. That's a fact.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel



You know what I'm saying. You can't admit it here but you'll think about it more and you'll get it. An abortion is one human's choice to cease another human's existence. Period.
The debate on when life begins is a red herring. The end result is always the same.
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Sorry. I don't agree. Aborting a fetus is not the same as killing an adult. It's not. Yes, abortion does end a life, but so does pulling a flower from the ground.
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It isn't opinion, it is fact. You're having a hard time with it. Embrace it.

Regardless of when life begins, an abortion ends it.

The sky really is blue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1385276


The sky isn't blue. It only appears blue because of the reflection of the oceans. That's a fact.
 Quoting: AmericanInfidel



You know what I'm saying. You can't admit it here but you'll think about it more and you'll get it. An abortion is one human's choice to cease another human's existence. Period.
The debate on when life begins is a red herring. The end result is always the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1385276


Sorry. I don't agree. Aborting a fetus is not the same as killing an adult. It's not. Yes, abortion does end a life, but so does pulling a flower from the ground.
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when youre in a hole, stop digging
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In the last election Massachusetts barely rejected a 'death with dignity' law....assisted suicide in rosy words.

That will be the next evolution. End inconvenient life early, the next logical step is end inconvenient life late.

When abortion first became accepted it was for very early term, now it is ok to suck out the brains of a baby until the point it is completely clear of the mothers body. Some 'thinkers' believe life does not begin until the child is completely coherent, aware, able to think logically. Around the age of two is generally accepted.

Assisted suicide will have the same evolution. Now it is not accepted, next it will be in extreme circumstance, then whenever a family member decides it's time for dad to go.

We are all going to reap what the baby killers sow.
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If killing a fetus is like pulling a flower

killing a 5 year old child is like cutting down a tree

killing an adult is like clearing a rain forest
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because the law says it's o.k. to kill somebody in self-defence,
and abortion is self-defence.

dumbass.
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Self defense? In what way?

A woman is pregnent and decides she does not want the human growing inside her to live. That is not self defense.

Otherwise we could kill anyone we did not want to share the world with
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well, just get in my way and see what happens.
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All human weeds who kill are soon to be exterminated.
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because the law says it's o.k. to kill somebody in self-defence,
and abortion is self-defence.

dumbass.
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Self defense? In what way?

A woman is pregnent and decides she does not want the human growing inside her to live. That is not self defense.

Otherwise we could kill anyone we did not want to share the world with
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well, just get in my way and see what happens.
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Unless you get in my way first.
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harm innocent = noose around neck and drowned.
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You are already dead you see, your heart is dead.
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Dead weeds are pulled.
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You are already dead you see, your heart is dead.
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Hmmm?
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cuz amerikans are crazy
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the normal feelings of anxiety, fear, shame, guilt and grief which often follow the abortion [link to leaderu.com]

If abortion is normal for humans, why are there such emotional distress in mothers and even fathers of aborted babies?

We instincively know right from wrong and we punish ourselves when we have done wrong.

In my mind there is no other explaination for psycological problems associated with abortion.
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You are already dead you see, your heart is dead.
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you have a heart of stone.
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the normal feelings of anxiety, fear, shame, guilt and grief which often follow the abortion [link to leaderu.com]

If abortion is normal for humans, why are there such emotional distress in mothers and even fathers of aborted babies?

We instincively know right from wrong and we punish ourselves when we have done wrong.

In my mind there is no other explaination for psycological problems associated with abortion.
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Then they hate those with large families, who kept their babies...because it reminds them.
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the normal feelings of anxiety, fear, shame, guilt and grief which often follow the abortion [link to leaderu.com]

If abortion is normal for humans, why are there such emotional distress in mothers and even fathers of aborted babies?

We instincively know right from wrong and we punish ourselves when we have done wrong.

In my mind there is no other explaination for psycological problems associated with abortion.
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because some people just aren't happy unless they screw their
own lives up, instead of just taking care of business and moving on.
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I know a lady who has an abortion every now and then from mistakes. She sleeps around with anyone who will take her on a vacation such as Paris, France. She dates rich guys. I say ..eww gross.
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Is masturbation also killing life? If a woman miscarriages, should she be charged with murder because be body rejected the pregnancy?
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A lawyer might argue: No, because in the case of a miscarriage, the woman didn't consciously choose to take action to terminate the pregnancy.

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