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If the law says we can't kill each other, why is abortion different?

 
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I know a lady who has an abortion every now and then from mistakes. She sleeps around with anyone who will take her on a vacation such as Paris, France. She dates rich guys. I say ..eww gross.
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why. what's wrong with living this delicious life to the fullest?
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I know a lady who has an abortion every now and then from mistakes. She sleeps around with anyone who will take her on a vacation such as Paris, France. She dates rich guys. I say ..eww gross.
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lol ya, right. Sure ya do.
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Re: If the law says we can't kill each other, why is abortion different?
You're missing the point. I haven't said anything about when I think life begins.
I said, regardless of when life begins, if I abort at any time, I cease a person's existence.
Is that hard to understand?

I don't care if life begins at first breath or at conception.
If I abort at any point, there is no human.

Get it?



Very good point made, AWESOME!!!!!!!
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They should make the mothers wear the dead fetus on a necklace for three days after it is cut from the womb. I'm not anti abortion or anything. I just think it would make the sluts and prostitutes who haven't heard of birth control think twice before the next drunken gang bang.
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What if a 13 year old girl is raped by her step father? Should she have to wear the necklace too?
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Considering this is a statistical non issue she should be exempt. Most 13 years olds who have sex don't get pregnant.
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Are you serious? If a girl can have her period, she can get pregnant. Are you really trying to say that 13 year olds aren't statistically rape victims?
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I banged plenty of 13 year olds, when I was 12. We were smart enough to use magnums.

What I'm really saying is women should be on mandatory birth control from puberty on. I gives a shit if a woman gets an abortion. That's her karma. But using abortion as a means of birth control is an incomprehensible travesty and crime perpetuated by unbelievable stupidity and irresponsibility.

If women aren't smart enough to refrain from sex or use proper birth control then they should not have the right to procreate unless they have been proven competent. Birth control is the responsibility of the female because SHE is the one bringing the baby.

Abortion on a mass scale, AS A MEANS OF BIRTH CONTROL, IS my business because it has a shockwave affect on society, on my community, and on my planet where I live.

If a young girl gets raped and gets knocked up then yes she has the right to an abortion. That's a non issue because statistically that happens about .00000000001% of the time compared to birth control abortion. So it is a moot point.

But for irresponsible women who have no self control, there needs to be a consequence. Perhaps sterilization along with their abortion. Perhaps that would force them to think a little deeper.
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Re: If the law says we can't kill each other, why is abortion different?
The only law that say's we can't kill each other is God's law within the commandments. Worldly policy makers(Illuminati) have placed large grey areas in the realm surrounding his commandments to allow for the internal weakening and destruction of Christian nations. This divide is manufactured in order to conquer. The further we get away for God's law the easier it will be to except their control.

The US is the last Christian nation to be conquered and by looking at the current landscape it is safe to say that the majority of Americans could care less about God's laws.

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I know a lady who has an abortion every now and then from mistakes. She sleeps around with anyone who will take her on a vacation such as Paris, France. She dates rich guys. I say ..eww gross.
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lol ya, right. Sure ya do.
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She never got married. She was my best friend in school , and I ran into her a few years back, and she told me this like it was nothing and normal to be this way. I felt bad for her.
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What the f do you care what a women who is unknown to you makes a decision that effects her own body.

If she doesn't have the abortion are YOU going to provide the funds to raise the child, hmmmm?????
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What the f do you care what a women who is unknown to you makes a decision that effects her own body.

If she doesn't have the abortion are YOU going to provide the funds to raise the child, hmmmm?????
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I say all men should be fixed.
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I'd be more sympathetic to the pro-life people's views on abortion if they weren't the same people (for the most part) who see nothing wrong with slaughtering innocents in foreign countries, simply because death is delivered by an aircraft from 20,000 feet upon people of a foreign culture, rather than a doctor's forceps in an American medical clinic.
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What the f do you care what a women who is unknown to you makes a decision that effects her own body.

If she doesn't have the abortion are YOU going to provide the funds to raise the child, hmmmm?????
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If you believe abortion is murder, as I do, then it is reasonable to care about an abortion as it is to care about any murder.

And see my post about the MA assisted suicide law. Acceptance of abortion is the creast of a slippery slope to allowing killing of any incinvenience, old or yet to be born, or partially born.
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What the f do you care what a women who is unknown to you makes a decision that effects her own body.

If she doesn't have the abortion are YOU going to provide the funds to raise the child, hmmmm?????
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I say all men should be fixed.
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rockon

I'd be more sympathetic to the pro-life people's views on abortion if they weren't the same people (for the most part) who see nothing wrong with slaughtering innocents in foreign countries, simply because death is delivered by an aircraft from 20,000 feet upon people of a foreign culture, rather than a doctor's forceps in an American medical clinic.
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I have often wondered that myself, perhaps they worry that abortion will reduce the number of poor to draw disposable soldiers from.
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Re: If the law says we can't kill each other, why is abortion different?
I guess it would depend on your views of when life starts concerning abortion....what the current legal system defines it as....how much money you got...
however, what "law" are you talking about that says killing is illegal?
I know of many legal ways to help someone meet Pedro Alonso Lopez.....


me...pro choice....life is just a path
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Well, seems to me that whether the abortion happens day 1 with a morning after pill, or at any other time in the pregnancy, the end result is the same; a human life was ceased. I'm not arrogant enough to think that I have the right to decide who gets a chance at life and who doesn't.
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Re: If the law says we can't kill each other, why is abortion different?
You're missing the point. I haven't said anything about when I think life begins.
I said, regardless of when life begins, if I abort at any time, I cease a person's existence.
Is that hard to understand?

I don't care if life begins at first breath or at conception.
If I abort at any point, there is no human.

Get it?



Very good point made, AWESOME!!!!!!!
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Thanks. I'm trying to boil it down to this point because logically, it can't be denied. It really isn't a matter of opinion. Therefore, it may actually trigger some thought and change in some people who aren't too far gone. That's my hope anyway.
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Re: If the law says we can't kill each other, why is abortion different?
What the f do you care what a women who is unknown to you makes a decision that effects her own body.

If she doesn't have the abortion are YOU going to provide the funds to raise the child, hmmmm?????
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If you believe abortion is murder, as I do, then it is reasonable to care about an abortion as it is to care about any murder.

And see my post about the MA assisted suicide law. Acceptance of abortion is the creast of a slippery slope to allowing killing of any incinvenience, old or yet to be born, or partially born.
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Mind your own business.

I see war as murder, I see a huge % of your male population being jailed on trumped up charges, I see police killing innocent people.


Keep your hands off my body.

By the way, I believe in assisted suicide for those that choose it.
Who are you to decide what anyone does with their life and their body.

Just worry about yourself and let others do the same.
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What the f do you care what a women who is unknown to you makes a decision that effects her own body.

If she doesn't have the abortion are YOU going to provide the funds to raise the child, hmmmm?????
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it doesn't just effect her own body. it effects another would-be human.
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I'd be more sympathetic to the pro-life people's views on abortion if they weren't the same people (for the most part) who see nothing wrong with slaughtering innocents in foreign countries, simply because death is delivered by an aircraft from 20,000 feet upon people of a foreign culture, rather than a doctor's forceps in an American medical clinic.
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Why do you assume that? Why do simple minded people always assume that if I don't like black I MUST like white? If I don't like Obama I MUST like Romney? If I like the USA I MUST hate the rest of the world?

Slaughtering innocents is wrong. That is why mordern reapons that can strike with more precision and avoid collateral damage is better than carpet bombing. But it it more expensive and takes more planning, but we as intelligent beings avoid unnecessary loss of life.

Abortion is almost always an unnecessary loss of life.
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What the f do you care what a women who is unknown to you makes a decision that effects her own body.

If she doesn't have the abortion are YOU going to provide the funds to raise the child, hmmmm?????
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No....but if she decided to keep the child she'll force the father to pay child support. So she can abort the child without the fathers say, but lets say the father wanted her to abort it, and she doesn't, then she'll force him to pay child support even though he didn't want it. But if she doesn't want it she can kill it. Don't get me wrong, I don't think that any man should not step up to the plate and support his child...but if I were a man I would be pissed that someone could abort my child without my say. That child is just as much mine as it is hers.
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What the f do you care what a women who is unknown to you makes a decision that effects her own body.

If she doesn't have the abortion are YOU going to provide the funds to raise the child, hmmmm?????
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If you believe abortion is murder, as I do, then it is reasonable to care about an abortion as it is to care about any murder.

And see my post about the MA assisted suicide law. Acceptance of abortion is the creast of a slippery slope to allowing killing of any incinvenience, old or yet to be born, or partially born.
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Mind your own business.

I see war as murder, I see a huge % of your male population being jailed on trumped up charges, I see police killing innocent people.


Keep your hands off my body.

By the way, I believe in assisted suicide for those that choose it.
Who are you to decide what anyone does with their life and their body.

Just worry about yourself and let others do the same.
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The unborn child does not choose to be killed
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The point that cells start dividing can be considered alive. A seed doesn't qualify, neither does masturbation.
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Re: If the law says we can't kill each other, why is abortion different?
It only make fiscal sense to start killin off old folks, or stop killing babyies.

We have a huge deficit partly because more people are aging and collecting social security and there are fewer workers to pay tax into the pool. If we didn't kill our babies, or if we start killing old folks the equation will come into balance.

No matter your present age, you can believe you will be 'suicided' before you die naturally.

And you abortion supporters will be the reason
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The point that cells start dividing can be considered alive. A seed doesn't qualify, neither does masturbation.
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in today's world women are blessed with 2 alternatives:
they can give the baby up for adoption, or have a doctor
rip it out and put it in the dempsey dumpster.
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What the f do you care what a women who is unknown to you makes a decision that effects her own body.

If she doesn't have the abortion are YOU going to provide the funds to raise the child, hmmmm?????
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it doesn't just effect her own body. it effects another would-be human.
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But it's not your business.
It's the woman's business, along with whomever got her pregnant.

Worry about yourself and keep your nose out of anyone else's business.
Unless of course you are willing to provide for every child who's abortion you stop.
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What the f do you care what a women who is unknown to you makes a decision that effects her own body.

If she doesn't have the abortion are YOU going to provide the funds to raise the child, hmmmm?????
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it doesn't just effect her own body. it effects another would-be human.
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yeh, well, we've got 6 billion of these little buggers
right now. so, we're just not all that charmed anymore.
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What the f do you care what a women who is unknown to you makes a decision that effects her own body.

If she doesn't have the abortion are YOU going to provide the funds to raise the child, hmmmm?????
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it doesn't just effect her own body. it effects another would-be human.
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yeh, well, we've got 6 billion of these little buggers
right now. so, we're just not all that charmed anymore.
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We know what causes pregnacy and how to prevent it with birth control 99% sure. 100% if you abstain totally.

And we need to do a better job of educating 3rd world nations about the problem of overpopulation.
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What the f do you care what a women who is unknown to you makes a decision that effects her own body.

If she doesn't have the abortion are YOU going to provide the funds to raise the child, hmmmm?????
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it doesn't just effect her own body. it effects another would-be human.
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yeh, well, we've got 6 billion of these little buggers
right now. so, we're just not all that charmed anymore.
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We know what causes pregnacy and how to prevent it with birth control 99% sure. 100% if you abstain totally.

And we need to do a better job of educating 3rd world nations about the problem of overpopulation.
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yeh, well, loneliness is a pretty pathetic emotion,
but a powerful driving force nonetheless.
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it doesn't just effect her own body. it effects another would-be human.
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yeh, well, we've got 6 billion of these little buggers
right now. so, we're just not all that charmed anymore.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


We know what causes pregnacy and how to prevent it with birth control 99% sure. 100% if you abstain totally.

And we need to do a better job of educating 3rd world nations about the problem of overpopulation.
 Quoting: Real list


yeh, well, loneliness is a pretty pathetic emotion,
but a powerful driving force nonetheless.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


Sex drive is what brings people together, not lonliness.

But that is no excuse for not using a condom or other very cheap birth control
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The point that cells start dividing can be considered alive. A seed doesn't qualify, neither does masturbation.
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in today's world women are blessed with 2 alternatives:
they can give the baby up for adoption, or have a doctor
rip it out and put it in the dempsey dumpster.
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Why doesn't a newborn's mother have the same choices? Put the baby up for adoption or throw it in a dumpster?
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yeh, well, we've got 6 billion of these little buggers
right now. so, we're just not all that charmed anymore.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


We know what causes pregnacy and how to prevent it with birth control 99% sure. 100% if you abstain totally.

And we need to do a better job of educating 3rd world nations about the problem of overpopulation.
 Quoting: Real list


yeh, well, loneliness is a pretty pathetic emotion,
but a powerful driving force nonetheless.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


Sex drive is what brings people together, not lonliness.

But that is no excuse for not using a condom or other very cheap birth control
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a 12 inch by 12 inch piece of plastic garbage bag works
good for a condom too, folks.
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The point that cells start dividing can be considered alive. A seed doesn't qualify, neither does masturbation.
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in today's world women are blessed with 2 alternatives:
they can give the baby up for adoption, or have a doctor
rip it out and put it in the dempsey dumpster.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


Why doesn't a newborn's mother have the same choices? Put the baby up for adoption or throw it in a dumpster?
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Or the mother of a ten year old who gets bad grades in school? Or their 15 year old dope smoker? Or my 42 year old worthless son..oops, did I say that out loud?
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Re: If the law says we can't kill each other, why is abortion different?
Sex drive is what brings people together, not lonliness.


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Correct and as a human we can control emotions and desires. We control anger, hunger, urination, sleep, why is sex different?

people need to grow up and be held accountable. People know what the results are of having sex. Just as they know the results of pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger.





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