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Why won't we have children in heaven?

 
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Why won't we have children in heaven?
I know after the resurrection and in heaven there will be no marriage or child bearing.. But why? Wouldn't it make sense to have children then, when the world and heaven are one and perfect? It's dangerous and stupid to have kids now with the world as wicked and evil as it is, why won't people have the chance to have progeny once they've succeeded in getting to heaven? That seems like a punishment. I know it's partly because well be spirits in our glorified bodies but angels were completely spirit when they mated with women and produced the nephilim.

I'm wondering because I want children but it would be evil to bring a life into the world before I was ready to give it all of the love and care and nurturing a soul desires, and evil and dangerous to bring a kid into the world as wicked and messed up as the world is. But I would be glad to do it and any children of mine would fare a lot better after the new heaven and earth... So why not? Does god not want more souls by then?
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No more sin will be created, ever.

Children are sinners, lol.

How do we know there are no alien worlds? Because they would also be sin filled. All have sinned.
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It was fallen angels who "mated" with women not angels. And they did not mate in the sense of which your thinking. We are children in the eyes of the lord and its the same for us as, A kid looks at a adult and cannot even understand what there mommy and daddy to or life is about. thats how us humans are trying to explain heaven now. In heaven Every1 is your brother and sister. And in heaven there shall be no pain for us in any way. Not to mention we cannot create a soul only god can. In heaven life as we know it is totally different then what we think it is here.. all though allot of things we see in our day to day life is a direct reflection of real things from heaven in which satan has stolen to use against us. Most of everything u think you know is basicly stolen from heaven and used against us here, well some things can be used for good but most things are used and abused for evil. Remeber in heaven life is something we cannot fathom and also when we are in heaven we will not remeber our lives on earth. These evils and hard times has no place in heaven my friend. Hope this helps. i got a video that you would love

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It was fallen angels who "mated" with women not angels. And they did not mate in the sense of which your thinking. We are children in the eyes of the lord and its the same for us as, A kid looks at a adult and cannot even understand what there mommy and daddy to or life is about. thats how us humans are trying to explain heaven now. In heaven Every1 is your brother and sister. And in heaven there shall be no pain for us in any way. Not to mention we cannot create a soul only god can. In heaven life as we know it is totally different then what we think it is here.. all though allot of things we see in our day to day life is a direct reflection of real things from heaven in which satan has stolen to use against us. Most of everything u think you know is basicly stolen from heaven and used against us here, well some things can be used for good but most things are used and abused for evil. Remeber in heaven life is something we cannot fathom and also when we are in heaven we will not remeber our lives on earth. These evils and hard times has no place in heaven my friend. Hope this helps. i got a video that you would love

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I get that... But what about kids?

And you don't think we reproduce you think god does it every time? I thought that's what made humans different from angels is that he gave us that power and responsibility?
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I know after the resurrection and in heaven there will be no marriage or child bearing.. But why? Wouldn't it make sense to have children then, when the world and heaven are one and perfect? It's dangerous and stupid to have kids now with the world as wicked and evil as it is, why won't people have the chance to have progeny once they've succeeded in getting to heaven? That seems like a punishment. I know it's partly because well be spirits in our glorified bodies but angels were completely spirit when they mated with women and produced the nephilim.

I'm wondering because I want children but it would be evil to bring a life into the world before I was ready to give it all of the love and care and nurturing a soul desires, and evil and dangerous to bring a kid into the world as wicked and messed up as the world is. But I would be glad to do it and any children of mine would fare a lot better after the new heaven and earth... So why not? Does god not want more souls by then?
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There will be a thousand year millenium after the present age--after the Great Tribulation Period of the current age-- those who go into the millenium will have children.
You are right that after the Great Throne Judgment and resurrection, there will be no marriage and child bearing.
(At least the Bible tells us that there will be no marriage in heaven, so presumably there will be no babies born there; all we know is that the Bible says there will be no marriage, that we will be "like the angels.")
Of course Christians will be caught up in the rapture before the 7 year tribulation, so after you are caught up, then, with the information God chose to give us in the Bible, then you won't have children there.
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And I know it was fallen angels but they were still angelic beings... Just fallen ones. That's why their offspring were giants, I think all angelic beings are giants compared to humans, even bigger than the nephilim.


If they didn't mate the way I'm thinking, then how did they? The bible says they took the daughters of men (human women) as wives and mated with them...? I know angels can transform into what they want as well, so they could have been flesh when they did it...


And what's the proof that gos creates every soul? I'm not saying I know for sure he doesn't, I would just like scripture and it seems to me he haves humans the ability to reproduce on our own.
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Re: Why won't we have children in heaven?
First you should be worrying about how your gonna take your brain there
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First you should be worrying about how your gonna take your brain there
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Make sure you have fun on your path to hell, there will be no joy or hope when you get there!
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Re: Why won't we have children in heaven?
These niphiliam are evil being which have no soul, so they have no defense against evil and become currupted. they take many shapes and sizes\, some look like mermaids, some are huge 1 mile high, some are only 12 feet high, and everything in between, some have horns on there heads ect. Im not sure 100% but imo i think they manipulate the womans eggs with high technology or divine intervention. These angles who have fallen has lost allot of there powers to. God made us in his image we do not even get our powerfull angelic body until after judgment day. until then we all kinda hang out in a town i think called zion and its under the throne of god. It only seems like a punishment, im not 100% sure either but from i feel since heaven is such a place we cannot even wrap our minds around that having a kid just because u want to kinda seems selfish .. all though dont quote me on that im not sure. I think in heaven last thing we will even worry about is creating a soul. I believe thats only gods job. but from what i think we cannot even begin to wrap our minds around the things to do in heaven and what its like. but know that satan is super jelous of us for even having the ability to goto heaven. I personally would not even worry about this. but focus more on loving and spreading love to people and maybe bringing as many ppl to heaven with you instead imo hehe.
god bless you hope this helps and love u all.
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We are not creators.
Even here on Earth we merely facilitate birth,
we do not create it.
We all breathe the same air.
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Re: Why won't we have children in heaven?
No Scripture, go figure.


(KJV)Psalm 127:3-4
Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord : and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

[4] As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.


(KJV)Matthew 19:13-15
Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.

[14] But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

[15] And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence.


(KJV)Matthew 18:3-6
And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

[4] Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

[5] And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

[6] But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.


(KJV)Isaiah 65:17-25
For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

[18] But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

[19] And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.

[20] There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

[21] And they shall build houses, and inhabit them ; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.

[22] They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

[23] They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord , and their offspring with them.

[24] And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.

[25] The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord .



People, PLEASE keep these verses in your hearts. It shall prevent many problems.

(KJV)Proverbs 3:5-8
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
[6] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

[7] Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord , and depart from evil.

[8] It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones.


(KJV)John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

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1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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Re: Why won't we have children in heaven?
were already in heaven,the sky starts where the ground ends...our bodies travel through the sky with only the bottom of our feet/shoes meeting where ground and sky come together....our houses are in the sky,only the bottom of the foundations touch the ground..when its foggy we can walk in the sky through the clouds...get in an auto and only the bottom of the tires touch the ground,we and the rest of the auto is in the sky...we are in paradise and most dont even realize it...happiness comes from our spirit within ,not outward in the creation..we all choose to be happy or not, no matter what is outwards...if we are not happy , we must blame our self's and our negative attitude and lack of will power...the sky starts where the ground ends...

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How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Re: Why won't we have children in heaven?
We are not creators.
Even here on Earth we merely facilitate birth,
we do not create it.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


That make sense. See above.
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We are not creators.
Even here on Earth we merely facilitate birth,
we do not create it.
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lol,speak for your self,i am spirit within and existed before this flesh, i live in now...2 other arks with spirit got together in the flesh and i decided i would help create my ark with them to dwell in ...as its written. when 2 or 3 are gathered together in my name<the name is spirit not Jesus the flesh) there i<spirit) will be in the midst of them...you copy machines that keep spitting out scriptures, forget it was created by 50/50 spirit and flesh..therefore 50 percent of scripture is mistranslated to lead away from the spirit and point to the flesh...so we must re-translate it from first person spirit point of view to see the correct translations that lead to our spirit and not to the concepts that cause flesh to follow them...our shared co-creator spirit created the concepts of gods,goddesses,saviors,devils, angels,hell,heaven etc...those concepts did not create our spirit which existed before them...we as spirit within have the authority over the creation/flesh and the concepts that lead away from our spirit's authority...follow the flesh with your flesh if you wish..i as spirit within, control my own flesh and no concept we helped create does that...

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How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Re: Why won't we have children in heaven?
monotheistic religions are angry , scared mens clubs.

christians only conceded women had souls in 1278, and that was only so they could

justify cleansing them with fire by accusing them of witchcraft and burning them alive.



this concession was reversed during the 1340's when the flagelants gained more power than the pope by convincing the masses their wickedness had caused the bubonic plague.

so they only let women in heaven for less than a century and they were mostly crispy witches.
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We are not creators.
Even here on Earth we merely facilitate birth,
we do not create it.
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lol,speak for your self,i am spirit within and existed before this flesh, i live in now...2 other arks with spirit got together in the flesh and i decided i would help create my ark with them to dwell in ...as its written. when 2 or 3 are gathered together in my name<the name is spirit not Jesus the flesh) there i<spirit) will be in the midst of them...you copy machines that keep spitting out scriptures, forget it was created by 50/50 spirit and flesh..therefore 50 percent of scripture is mistranslated to lead away from the spirit and point to the flesh...so we must re-translate it from first person spirit point of view to see the correct translations that lead to our spirit and not to the concepts that cause flesh to follow them...our shared co-creator spirit created the concepts of gods,goddesses,saviors,devils, angels,hell,heaven etc...those concepts did not create our spirit which existed before them...we as spirit within have the authority over the creation/flesh and the concepts that lead away from our spirit's authority...follow the flesh with your flesh if you wish..i as spirit within, control my own flesh and no concept we helped create does that...
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


As humble as you seem, I doubt it. We are nothing and not special. Scripture has been mistranslated but it always points to God. I'm here for you bruddah.
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Re: Why won't we have children in heaven?
monotheistic religions are angry , scared mens clubs.

christians only conceded women had souls in 1278, and that was only so they could

justify cleansing them with fire by accusing them of witchcraft and burning them alive.



this concession was reversed during the 1340's when the flagelants gained more power than the pope by convincing the masses their wickedness had caused the bubonic plague.

so they only let women in heaven for less than a century and they were mostly crispy witches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17105290


Dunno what. Bible you're reading or what illiterate preacher you listened TP but genesis makes it clear woman have souls, god made eve in his image too. Just cause they are supposed to serve men doesn't mean they don't have souls
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We are not creators.
Even here on Earth we merely facilitate birth,
we do not create it.
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lol,speak for your self,i am spirit within and existed before this flesh, i live in now...2 other arks with spirit got together in the flesh and i decided i would help create my ark with them to dwell in ...as its written. when 2 or 3 are gathered together in my name<the name is spirit not Jesus the flesh) there i<spirit) will be in the midst of them...you copy machines that keep spitting out scriptures, forget it was created by 50/50 spirit and flesh..therefore 50 percent of scripture is mistranslated to lead away from the spirit and point to the flesh...so we must re-translate it from first person spirit point of view to see the correct translations that lead to our spirit and not to the concepts that cause flesh to follow them...our shared co-creator spirit created the concepts of gods,goddesses,saviors,devils, angels,hell,heaven etc...those concepts did not create our spirit which existed before them...we as spirit within have the authority over the creation/flesh and the concepts that lead away from our spirit's authority...follow the flesh with your flesh if you wish..i as spirit within, control my own flesh and no concept we helped create does that...
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


As humble as you seem, I doubt it. We are nothing and not special. Scripture has been mistranslated but it always points to God. I'm here for you bruddah.
 Quoting: Borian

He's not humble at all he thinks he's god, he has a thread claiming he an we are all god. Total satanic power hungry heresy
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Re: Why won't we have children in heaven?
We are not creators.
Even here on Earth we merely facilitate birth,
we do not create it.
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lol,speak for your self,i am spirit within and existed before this flesh, i live in now...2 other arks with spirit got together in the flesh and i decided i would help create my ark with them to dwell in ...as its written. when 2 or 3 are gathered together in my name<the name is spirit not Jesus the flesh) there i<spirit) will be in the midst of them...you copy machines that keep spitting out scriptures, forget it was created by 50/50 spirit and flesh..therefore 50 percent of scripture is mistranslated to lead away from the spirit and point to the flesh...so we must re-translate it from first person spirit point of view to see the correct translations that lead to our spirit and not to the concepts that cause flesh to follow them...our shared co-creator spirit created the concepts of gods,goddesses,saviors,devils, angels,hell,heaven etc...those concepts did not create our spirit which existed before them...we as spirit within have the authority over the creation/flesh and the concepts that lead away from our spirit's authority...follow the flesh with your flesh if you wish..i as spirit within, control my own flesh and no concept we helped create does that...
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


As humble as you seem, I doubt it. We are nothing and not special. Scripture has been mistranslated but it always points to God. I'm here for you bruddah.
 Quoting: Borian

He's not humble at all he thinks he's god, he has a thread claiming he an we are all god. Total satanic power hungry heresy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19278758


I understand and agree. There are no Gods on earth. No, even though he thinks he is, he's not. The satanic do what they wish. It is up to others to let them know they might have been successful.

/edit their, there, ...

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Because chil'ren are annoying and heaven is all about non-annoying awesome stuff!
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Because chil'ren are annoying and heaven is all about non-annoying awesome stuff!
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Says the barren woman. chuckle Nah, j/k. I'm all about "non-annoying awesome stuff".
I just wonder if I cut the mustard after reading about/listening to that Marine's NDE today.
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Because chil'ren are annoying and heaven is all about non-annoying awesome stuff!
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Exactly! And fucking is RIGHT out! lol
What a completely insane thread... :-)
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im having kids in heaven.. im not having kids here though LOL


dunno about you....
i get on this site... way too much
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Because chil'ren are annoying and heaven is all about non-annoying awesome stuff!
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puffs of air and happy thoughts. <-
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Psalm 146:16 You are opening your hand

And satisfying the desire of every living thing.


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Psalm 146:16 You are opening your hand

And satisfying the desire of every living thing.


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O_o
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Psalm 146:16 You are opening your hand

And satisfying the desire of every living thing.


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You might look into the watchtower teachings. The active force is alive and well. And not who you think he is. But he is willing to forgive...
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Uhhh please study the topic: Plan of Salvation by LDS theology please.
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[link to www.lds.org]
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[link to www.lds.org]
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Uhhh please study the topic: Plan of Salvation by LDS theology please.
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I have studied it and found it to be lacking.

Sacred underwear won't bring you closer to God. Just you.





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