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ANOTHER RED DAY IN THE MARKETS!!! DOW FUTURES -100!!!

 
Rising Son
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So the timing is just a coincidence?
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Daily gyrations with a trend downwards. The markets have no appetite for austerity. After all, which business owner wants to be operating in an austere economy. So all this talk of austerity is basically driven by a need to drive down wages but is also tempered by the need to ensure that consumers are not pauperised.

But then again, you don't own a business so this is probably all too hard for you to grasp.
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Austerity - the policy of a government cutting spending by reducing benefits and entitlements? I believe you are comparing governmental economic policies with free market. Of course, I don't own a business so I'm too dumb to understand, right?
 Quoting: Rising Son


Exactly. Do you think a business owner cares where his profits come from. Oh yeah, I can see him standing at the door to his mall saying, no benefit spenders please. God, are you people that stupid!!
 Quoting: Marxist


Take it easy, Karl - you are jumping to quite a few conclusions and assumptions. Calm down, and try to show a little more respect, you will receive it back.

I do not disagree that business owners are more concerned with profits than the source of those profits. However, a business that counts on government subsidies is doomed from the start. Solyndra was a perfect example. I fear it will only get worse now.
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Daily gyrations with a trend downwards. The markets have no appetite for austerity. After all, which business owner wants to be operating in an austere economy. So all this talk of austerity is basically driven by a need to drive down wages but is also tempered by the need to ensure that consumers are not pauperised.

But then again, you don't own a business so this is probably all too hard for you to grasp.
 Quoting: Marxist


Austerity - the policy of a government cutting spending by reducing benefits and entitlements? I believe you are comparing governmental economic policies with free market. Of course, I don't own a business so I'm too dumb to understand, right?
 Quoting: Rising Son


Exactly. Do you think a business owner cares where his profits come from. Oh yeah, I can see him standing at the door to his mall saying, no benefit spenders please. God, are you people that stupid!!
 Quoting: Marxist


Precisely. Business owners don't care where their profits come from -- they'll suck the tit of whoever they have to to get their shekels.

Which is why capitalism and Marxism are in bed with each other and have been since the Second World War.

The growth economy itself needs to be destroyed.
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Dont talk rubbish! Marxist society would have no private ownership, no banks and be communal as in no private housing.

The social democrats are intelligent capitalists. Conservatives have achieved their objective of a globalised market place put in place by Raegan and Thatcher. The only ones fit enough to run this arrangements are social democrats who know how to tweak the momentum of money.

Obama has a long way to go to undo the damage left by Bush who achieved another objective....freeing up oil from Arab nationalists.

Conservatives are good for big ticket items. Day to day running is better in the hands of social democrats.

However, if communists ran the world, the global economy would be driven by need, not profit.
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calm down guys we are all brothers and sisters! hfpeace
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Daily gyrations with a trend downwards. The markets have no appetite for austerity. After all, which business owner wants to be operating in an austere economy. So all this talk of austerity is basically driven by a need to drive down wages but is also tempered by the need to ensure that consumers are not pauperised.

But then again, you don't own a business so this is probably all too hard for you to grasp.
 Quoting: Marxist


Austerity - the policy of a government cutting spending by reducing benefits and entitlements? I believe you are comparing governmental economic policies with free market. Of course, I don't own a business so I'm too dumb to understand, right?
 Quoting: Rising Son


Exactly. Do you think a business owner cares where his profits come from. Oh yeah, I can see him standing at the door to his mall saying, no benefit spenders please. God, are you people that stupid!!
 Quoting: Marxist


Take it easy, Karl - you are jumping to quite a few conclusions and assumptions. Calm down, and try to show a little more respect, you will receive it back.

I do not disagree that business owners are more concerned with profits than the source of those profits. However, a business that counts on government subsidies is doomed from the start. Solyndra was a perfect example. I fear it will only get worse now.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Notwithstanding sunny jim, joe the store owner certainly does not want penniless consumers. Basic stuff actually so I really don't know why you persist in arguing a given. But as I said, working conservatives tend to miss this obvious point in their slender grasp of capitalist economics.
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11/09/2012 06:35 AM
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calm down guys we are all brothers and sisters! hfpeace
 Quoting: Luisport


I'm calm. Jimbo joe however thinks he can affect events where dollar and cents down the discount store are at issue.
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Greek 5bn bond expires next Friday and no solution yet
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Greek 5bn bond expires next Friday and no solution yet
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hf Thank you very much my friend!
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Greek 5bn bond expires next Friday and no solution yet
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hf Thank you very much my friend!
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And another report
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Greek 5bn bond expires next Friday and no solution yet
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 Quoting: Foveras 25170384


Greek culture basically has to be brought up to speed with that of Northern Europe. This is what this is about. The Greeks are not "productive" enough for the capitalist economy as in self reliant and nuclear, family structure wise. A period of minimal government I suspect is designed to wean them off the family state structure and move them into a modern more flexible society. After all, they are a leisure economy and not sufficiently diverse to extend their contribution within a N Europe dominated EU. So I am sanguine about this. They will emerge from this more leaner and integrated in the EU project.
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Futures: /quotes/zigman/6484429 S&P 500 -0.2%/quotes/zigman/7578489 DOW -0.3%/quotes/zigman/6485202 NASDAQ +0.0%
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11/09/2012 06:59 AM
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Greek 5bn bond expires next Friday and no solution yet
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 Quoting: Foveras 25170384


Greek culture basically has to be brought up to speed with that of Northern Europe. This is what this is about. The Greeks are not "productive" enough for the capitalist economy as in self reliant and nuclear, family structure wise. A period of minimal government I suspect is designed to wean them off the family state structure and move them into a modern more flexible society. After all, they are a leisure economy and not sufficiently diverse to extend their contribution within a N Europe dominated EU. So I am sanguine about this. They will emerge from this more leaner and integrated in the EU project.
 Quoting: Marxist


And the best way to bring them up to speed is with lots and lots of Pakis who they must "assimilate" with.

Emerging leaner? Damn right. More integrated in the EU? Don't bank on it.

Hail the Golden Dawn.
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Greek 5bn bond expires next Friday and no solution yet
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 Quoting: Foveras 25170384


Greek culture basically has to be brought up to speed with that of Northern Europe. This is what this is about. The Greeks are not "productive" enough for the capitalist economy as in self reliant and nuclear, family structure wise. A period of minimal government I suspect is designed to wean them off the family state structure and move them into a modern more flexible society. After all, they are a leisure economy and not sufficiently diverse to extend their contribution within a N Europe dominated EU. So I am sanguine about this. They will emerge from this more leaner and integrated in the EU project.
 Quoting: Marxist


And the best way to bring them up to speed is with lots and lots of Pakis who they must "assimilate" with.

Emerging leaner? Damn right. More integrated in the EU? Don't bank on it.

Hail the Golden Dawn.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1421478


Lol. Golden Dawn....hmmmm. They'll make good managers in due course, assuming they take the reins. But then, rank and file such as yourself are ok as foot soldiers, but when thats done, joe the mall owner pays the rent. Ho hum. Like I said, a Golden Dawn, Dusky Sunset or Syrizia will not alter the march of capital to complete global freedom.
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11/09/2012 07:13 AM
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Capitalism is pretty basic stuff. Take one mall owner with a penchant to become a global billionaire, a Golden Dawn ideologue with a taste for caviare and you have modern day politicians. I strongly recommend enjoying your life whist of course noting that the current crisis will end up with all of us working a lot harder, possibly at two jobs, to keep shopping. In the interim, there will be riots and the promises of Golden Dawns but there's always shopping therapy as well. Hahahaha

Didn't mean to hijack your thread Luis. I'll call it a day now. Don't fret about the EU however. These are the birth pangs of the next capitalist phase.
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stop hijacking the thread..
1 from usa 1 from australia talking like they know it all in europe.., plz vote oblama for a third run..

it's simple, greek is nothing, stop looking there it is a distraction and to fear other country's.. they are screwing us in hole europe like they are in the rest of the world..
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George Soros says he is ready to commit "serious funds to aid Greece"
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stop hijacking the thread..
1 from usa 1 from australia talking like they know it all in europe.., plz vote oblama for a third run..

it's simple, greek is nothing, stop looking there it is a distraction and to fear other country's.. they are screwing us in hole europe like they are in the rest of the world..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25359745


Not to Soros, LOL:

George Soros says he is ready to commit "serious funds to aid Greece"

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The dominos are about to fall.
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stop hijacking the thread..
1 from usa 1 from australia talking like they know it all in europe.., plz vote oblama for a third run..

it's simple, greek is nothing, stop looking there it is a distraction and to fear other country's.. they are screwing us in hole europe like they are in the rest of the world..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25359745


I am from England, living in New Zealand, but from England...so I guess I should know...don't yer reckons?
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Greek 5bn bond expires next Friday and no solution yet
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hf Thank you very much my friend!
 Quoting: Luisport


And another report
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Greece will sell T-Bills to fund a coupon payment
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Good ! We don't need no stinking financial markets.
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stop hijacking the thread..
1 from usa 1 from australia talking like they know it all in europe.., plz vote oblama for a third run..

it's simple, greek is nothing, stop looking there it is a distraction and to fear other country's.. they are screwing us in hole europe like they are in the rest of the world..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25359745


Not to Soros, LOL:

George Soros says he is ready to commit "serious funds to aid Greece"

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

The dominos are about to fall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


keep believing those propaganda posts,
the domino's will fall yes, but not because of greece..
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stop hijacking the thread..
1 from usa 1 from australia talking like they know it all in europe.., plz vote oblama for a third run..

it's simple, greek is nothing, stop looking there it is a distraction and to fear other country's.. they are screwing us in hole europe like they are in the rest of the world..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25359745


Not to Soros, LOL:

George Soros says he is ready to commit "serious funds to aid Greece"

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

The dominos are about to fall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


keep believing those propaganda posts,
the domino's will fall yes, but not because of greece..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25359745
so what's your point?

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Futures: /quotes/zigman/6484429 S&P 500 -0.3%/quotes/zigman/7578489 DOW -0.3%/quotes/zigman/6485202 NASDAQ -0.1%
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keep believing those propaganda posts,
the domino's will fall yes, but not because of greece..
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Greece is the first domino
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stop hijacking the thread..
1 from usa 1 from australia talking like they know it all in europe.., plz vote oblama for a third run..

it's simple, greek is nothing, stop looking there it is a distraction and to fear other country's.. they are screwing us in hole europe like they are in the rest of the world..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25359745


Not to Soros, LOL:

George Soros says he is ready to commit "serious funds to aid Greece"

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

The dominos are about to fall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


keep believing those propaganda posts,
the domino's will fall yes, but not because of greece..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25359745
so what's your point?
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Soros is panicking. A good sign.
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stop hijacking the thread..
1 from usa 1 from australia talking like they know it all in europe.., plz vote oblama for a third run..

it's simple, greek is nothing, stop looking there it is a distraction and to fear other country's.. they are screwing us in hole europe like they are in the rest of the world..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25359745


Not to Soros, LOL:

George Soros says he is ready to commit "serious funds to aid Greece"

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

The dominos are about to fall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Nah. Periodic propping up of mismanaged parts of capitalism will become a feature till it collapses in about 50 years. Don't fret...the can kicking will go on for a while yet....the Arabs, Russians and Chinese will be queuing up with loot next.
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BTW Luis, thanks for the updates. Useful for my forex trading.
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