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SHTF simple way to cook food and boil water

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/11/2012 01:21 PM
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BLA BLA BLA BLA..... Some people ramble on and on.

This was just a video of a cool project.
 Quoting: Morpheus


Wrong. It's a topic on SHTF and talking about having them in bugout bags. If it was merely a video of a cool project, then there's no issue with it. If it's a topic on useful prepping, then it's of extremely limited use.
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11/12/2012 10:51 AM

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BLA BLA BLA BLA..... Some people ramble on and on.

This was just a video of a cool project.
 Quoting: Morpheus


Wrong. It's a topic on SHTF and talking about having them in bugout bags. If it was merely a video of a cool project, then there's no issue with it. If it's a topic on useful prepping, then it's of extremely limited use.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110734


I am not sure I agree on the limited use part -- the best part about these tiny little alcohol stoves is their ability to produce a compact flame during a risky time in one's flight for freedom....

The benefits of knowing how to create one of these stoves is:

1. Can be made with easily found items -- look in the rough grass off of any highway and you will find almost everything you need to construct one.

2. reuseable!

3. doesn't take up much room in a BOB.

4. Can use multiple fuels

5. Most thugs in a SHTF scenario won't even know what it is from looing at it.
Copernica

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11/12/2012 12:22 PM
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Well said, I do agree in all cases but in my case which is different than everyone elses of course. I already live in the bush in BC Can. I am a guide in the summers (Americans come up and hunt where I live) I have all the tools and skills needed to survive in the bush while being normal and healthy. What I would have knowledge in the form of phone is for making surviving easier and to strave of boredom. I wouldnt have to battle my way through a city like most. I just need to survive and spead the gossiple! Having companct portable knowledge is essential in making life easier and safer.

Cheers!
 Quoting: McMiller


Boredom is what I was thinking of. Forget the phones...think ebook readers and mp3 players. I love the we can literally carry entire libraries in our pockets and being able to save pieces of our culture - our science, math, history, etc - is pretty priceless. And the mp3 players will save our music and make long days more bearable. (plus many have video - allowing a video record of what was). The only issue then is protecting the devices from the elements.
"Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expresly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen." John Jay, NY,NY - 1787

When the US Constitution was written, the "natural law" that dealt with issues such as nationality and allegiance to a sovereign was called "the law of nations." Modernly, we call this "international law." In 1788, the preeminent codification, description and explanation of "the law of nations" was a work written by Emerich de Vattel, entitled THE LAW OF NATIONS, or principles of the law of nature applied to the conduct and affairs of nations and sovereigns. The Founders were not only familiar with de Vattel's treatise, they relied on it extensively when they wrote laws and Constitutions (of their respective States, not just the Federal one.)

In Section 212 of de Vattel's treatise, he states the following:

§ 212. Of the citizens and natives.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
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11/15/2012 05:09 AM
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BLA BLA BLA BLA..... Some people ramble on and on.

This was just a video of a cool project.
 Quoting: Morpheus


Wrong. It's a topic on SHTF and talking about having them in bugout bags. If it was merely a video of a cool project, then there's no issue with it. If it's a topic on useful prepping, then it's of extremely limited use.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110734


BLA BLA BLA.....STFU
tandym

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11/15/2012 10:12 AM

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Well said, I do agree in all cases but in my case which is different than everyone elses of course. I already live in the bush in BC Can. I am a guide in the summers (Americans come up and hunt where I live) I have all the tools and skills needed to survive in the bush while being normal and healthy. What I would have knowledge in the form of phone is for making surviving easier and to strave of boredom. I wouldnt have to battle my way through a city like most. I just need to survive and spead the gossiple! Having companct portable knowledge is essential in making life easier and safer.

Cheers!
 Quoting: McMiller


Boredom is what I was thinking of. Forget the phones...think ebook readers and mp3 players. I love the we can literally carry entire libraries in our pockets and being able to save pieces of our culture - our science, math, history, etc - is pretty priceless. And the mp3 players will save our music and make long days more bearable. (plus many have video - allowing a video record of what was). The only issue then is protecting the devices from the elements.
 Quoting: Copernica


Me too!

I asked for a NOOK for Christmas since it can read so many diverse file formats.
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11/15/2012 10:32 AM
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BLA BLA BLA BLA..... Some people ramble on and on.

This was just a video of a cool project.
 Quoting: Morpheus


Wrong. It's a topic on SHTF and talking about having them in bugout bags. If it was merely a video of a cool project, then there's no issue with it. If it's a topic on useful prepping, then it's of extremely limited use.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110734


BLA BLA BLA.....STFU
 Quoting: Morpheus


You bugout folks are great. You unintentionally help thin out the herd. Great job there Ace.
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11/15/2012 12:14 PM
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Re: SHTF simple way to cook food and boil water
For you bugout folks, a simple way to cok food and boil water:
[link to waterheatertimer.org]
tandym

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11/19/2012 11:49 AM

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bump


Because I like this thread and want more tips & discussions! :-)
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11/19/2012 12:56 PM
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I made the pop can stoves last night, I had to light a candle under it, to get it hot enough to light, I used some dryer lint soaked in the fuel as a wick to keep it going until it took off. But my dendatured fuel I found in the garage could be 20 or more years old LOL

It was a mess and took a few trial cans before I got it right. It is something you want to do before you actualy need to use it. Practace. But it is good for indoors after you burn off left over paint and chemical furmes from cans.

Using an old hot plate and few other thing around, I made a nice little indoor stove. 1/3 oz of fuel made one boiling cup of water/ coffee, tea, soup etc in the 12 min it burned.

Practace before you need it so you do not wast your matches, fuel, time etc during an actual emergency.

It is not as easy as it looks.

thank you
tandym

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11/19/2012 01:42 PM

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I made the pop can stoves last night, I had to light a candle under it, to get it hot enough to light, I used some dryer lint soaked in the fuel as a wick to keep it going until it took off. But my dendatured fuel I found in the garage could be 20 or more years old LOL

It was a mess and took a few trial cans before I got it right. It is something you want to do before you actualy need to use it. Practace. But it is good for indoors after you burn off left over paint and chemical furmes from cans.

Using an old hot plate and few other thing around, I made a nice little indoor stove. 1/3 oz of fuel made one boiling cup of water/ coffee, tea, soup etc in the 12 min it burned.

Practace before you need it so you do not wast your matches, fuel, time etc during an actual emergency.

It is not as easy as it looks.

thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6083198


My son has made several and that is what he said as well -- on the third try he got it right. Did you take it apart to see how the dyer lint fared?
shenandoah

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11/19/2012 01:47 PM
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Thanks for the info!
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11/19/2012 02:05 PM
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I just put a little piece of soaked lint on the top of the can. The soaked lint burnt a long time, a lot longer than I expected.

Any rips in the cans caused the fuel to burn outside of the holes. I had no problem plowing out the fully lit can.

It took it lot to get that paint off, tried three diffent grits of sand papper.
tandym

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11/20/2012 01:46 PM

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I just put a little piece of soaked lint on the top of the can. The soaked lint burnt a long time, a lot longer than I expected.

Any rips in the cans caused the fuel to burn outside of the holes. I had no problem plowing out the fully lit can.

It took it lot to get that paint off, tried three diffent grits of sand papper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6083198


I wonder if... you could just soak the lint in the fuel and put it in a little bowl or something? And not bother with the rest of it (the construction)? Do you think that would work?
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11/20/2012 01:55 PM
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When I moved into my current appartment the new kitchen got delayed for a week. Luckily I had one of those swedish military canteens.

[link to www.asmc.de]

Got mine for 9 euros. Cooked with a stainless steel pot and it was quite dandy. As a backup or for heating stuff fast and stealthy when on the move ------> Purrfect.
tandym

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11/20/2012 02:18 PM

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When I moved into my current appartment the new kitchen got delayed for a week. Luckily I had one of those swedish military canteens.

[link to www.asmc.de]

Got mine for 9 euros. Cooked with a stainless steel pot and it was quite dandy. As a backup or for heating stuff fast and stealthy when on the move ------> Purrfect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28148119


That is really cool! It has the whole rocket-stove concept combined with a backpacker's nesting pots/pans set.

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