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Bitter cold inside a disaster shelter...."We got f--ked!"

 
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awww gee, i had to have cable tv with the deluxe nfl package, so no, i couldn't save for a disaster like this, to pay for a hotel room for a few weeks, besides, it's the governments responsibility to care for me, wah, i'm just a lost little sheeple, help me

this is america, so we should be staying in a nice hotel that the government pays for, they can just print the money needed to pay for it, what good is being a citizen of a free country if they don't give you things for free, that's not a free country, so keep america free, give freedom
 Quoting: Greg Hutz 1218784


I hope you lose everything someday in a disaster, and then maybe you'd have half a heart.

Having heat/ GOOD shelter is something that every person should have, period. This is ridiculous.
 Quoting: amywood71605


Totally agree but it is your responsibility to take care of yourself not the governments. I konw a few people in Jersey, they are not complaining about the government not giving them everything becuase they knew a hurricane was coming and prepared for it. they didn't sit around waiting on the government.
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Re: Bitter cold inside a disaster shelter...."We got f--ked!"
Are you drinking the kool aid being served by Gov. Cuomo?
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Even N.Y. Gov. Cuomo's girlfriend Sandra Lee still in dark
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Oh well, looks like its COCKTAIL TIME!!!
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11/09/2012 03:15 PM
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For crying out loud. They have shelter. They may not be toasty warm BUT they're surviving which, by the looks of it, is their typical white trash lifestyle. When you live at the edge of poverty on welfare and disaster strikes you will find yourself in a tent. That's the best that can be expected when you don't work, have no friends and no savings He should be grateful. That he's not, shows why he's where he's at in the first place.
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...Said the corporate douche.


Not everyone is edumacated or has even the opportunity to have enough money to prepped. Not all of them are "white trash" either, a lot of actual working middle class people in there. When your house gets flooded and shit blows all over the place it doesn't matter. YOu're homeless for the time. These shelters are death traps. And they are also designed to get people ready for prison camp style living for the po'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20581494


NO ONE IN THAT SHELTER IS MIDDLE CLASS. They are all lower class. When your house gets flooded and you're middle class, you call the insurance agent and move to a hotel or the home of a friend/relative. When you are lower class, you call FEMA and then bitch because your cot broke and you're cold. He's ungrateful and that's why he's where he is.
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Guess the obongo Kool-Aid ain't doing it for the NJ residents, huh?
I agree I don't give a fuck no more them libturds drank the kool-aid NJ to bad
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Re: Bitter cold inside a disaster shelter...."We got f--ked!"
I hope you lose everything someday in a disaster, and then maybe you'd have half a heart.

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what a sweetie
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He hopes you lose everything because he has a HUGE heart. People with hearts always wish disaster upon those they disagree with.
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11/09/2012 03:18 PM
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Re: Bitter cold inside a disaster shelter...."We got f--ked!"
WHAT IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE....????? We have seen numerous disasters over the years and its very very clear that we have to have a personal plan in place. One needs to have several days of supplies on hand, blankets, flashlights, solar radio's, an emergency kit....to get you through the first days. It is absolutely impossible to mobilize mass support immediately. Think about it before you start moaning and groaning about the situation you might find yourself in. How does that help anyone?

You also have to have a plan about when to get your butt out of the area and find shelter elsewhere. You cannot sit there having a pity party waiting for someone to put you in a luxury hotel. It doesnt work like that.

I saw a newsclip on CNN the other night about a family just sitting in their battered home waiting for someone to tell them what to do. They were exhausted and cold. But they made no attempt to take their children out of harms way and leave the disaster zone behind. They claimed that there were looters in the area. SO WHAT? Youre home is uninhabitable, whatever remains is not worth protecting. So, gather up what might be meaningful and go. Be responsible and stop whining. You arent the only person having this experience. And do not expect to be rescued.

And do not consider rebuilding in the same place. Climate change is real and it does not make sense to try and recreate homes/businesses in an area that could be wiped out anytime.

Sandy is a wake up call....one of many we have had over the past years. Be prepared for anything.... Be responsible for yourself and your family.
 Quoting: shineon


You are so totally correct. I cannot believe how many were unprepared for this. We had days of warning, everyone knew where there would be mandatory evacuations. I was prepared, had all the supplies needed, and a contingency plan in case we had to leave. If I had small children, I'd have even more things in place. Go figure.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Re: Bitter cold inside a disaster shelter...."We got f--ked!"
When FEMA tricks people so that they do not prepare, that's the part that proves evil is a motivation, not just limited resources.

All you people (using that term broadly) saying these pathetic creatures should have prepared -- FEMA tricked them. Ordered them out of their houses, probably, put them in an enclosed shelter, then moved them to worse conditions they surely had not prepared for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459



FEMA tricked them to begin with by saying to store 3 days food and water while knowing damn well they could not adequately respond to a widespread disaster in that short time.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


FEMA tricked them??? If they are so stupid and incompetent they need FEMA to tell them what to do they don't deserve any better.
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Fuck that fat shit Christie he's the one who bowed down to Emperor Obama and blew the whole fucking election. Let Jersey go to fucking hell and be quick about it. Lots of other cities got hit by that storm and you didn't see all the mayors lined up try to kiss the Presidential wang like Christie did.

He's a traitor and a fat piece of shit. Now he's crying about Jersey. The poor mafia can't get any work because the city is a mess boo-hoo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8980350


He's a republican which means a majority of voters in NJ elected him so it can't be that everybody in NJ is a libtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27227251


True, and BTW as a New Jersyan, I'm very impressed that Christie told everyone he didn't give a damn about election politics, his state was devastated. Go Christie! (he needs to lay off the cheesesteaks though, seriously.)
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Re: Bitter cold inside a disaster shelter...."We got f--ked!"
When FEMA tricks people so that they do not prepare, that's the part that proves evil is a motivation, not just limited resources.

All you people (using that term broadly) saying these pathetic creatures should have prepared -- FEMA tricked them. Ordered them out of their houses, probably, put them in an enclosed shelter, then moved them to worse conditions they surely had not prepared for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459



FEMA tricked them to begin with by saying to store 3 days food and water while knowing damn well they could not adequately respond to a widespread disaster in that short time.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


FEMA tricked them??? If they are so stupid and incompetent they need FEMA to tell them what to do they don't deserve any better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26957116


Have at least 1 months supply of food and other necessities. Don't depend on government, they are not your friend.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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For crying out loud. They have shelter. They may not be toasty warm BUT they're surviving which, by the looks of it, is their typical white trash lifestyle. When you live at the edge of poverty on welfare and disaster strikes you will find yourself in a tent. That's the best that can be expected when you don't work, have no friends and no savings He should be grateful. That he's not, shows why he's where he's at in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26957116


...Said the corporate douche.


Not everyone is edumacated or has even the opportunity to have enough money to prepped. Not all of them are "white trash" either, a lot of actual working middle class people in there. When your house gets flooded and shit blows all over the place it doesn't matter. YOu're homeless for the time. These shelters are death traps. And they are also designed to get people ready for prison camp style living for the po'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20581494


NO ONE IN THAT SHELTER IS MIDDLE CLASS. They are all lower class. When your house gets flooded and you're middle class, you call the insurance agent and move to a hotel or the home of a friend/relative. When you are lower class, you call FEMA and then bitch because your cot broke and you're cold. He's ungrateful and that's why he's where he is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26957116


I looked on zillow.com at the prices of houses for sale in that town. They are mostly over $500,000. This is of course left-over data from before the storm (it's pretty funny to look at a picture of a pretty $1.3 million waterfront house and realize it is surely no more), but it tells us that it's at least a middle-class place. How could you be living in a house worth over $300,000 and not be called middle class?

Maybe they didn't have private flood insurance. Or maybe they did, but it's actually Federal flood insurance sold thru private companies, which is how I am told they do it. And maybe that Federal flood insurance's solution to this problem is to fall back on the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Do you have any specific knowledge adequate to answer my questions?
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Please explain to me why there are posters hating on the Democrats and Obama and wanting freebies too like housing and clothes and food ASAP? I thought you guys were all John Galt!
I am all for helping but isn't that a commie attitude to the Romney crowd? Just trying to understand....
 Quoting: kirkita


People of all political parties were screaming just as much about Bush and FEMA after Katrina. A ton of our tax money goes to those suckers, ostensibly to mitigate disasters such as this and to help our fellow countrymen who are affected by it, not to let them go hungry and freeze to death while the government drags its incompetent bloated collective ass along the path to yet another big FAIL.
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Re: Bitter cold inside a disaster shelter...."We got f--ked!"
When FEMA tricks people so that they do not prepare, that's the part that proves evil is a motivation, not just limited resources.

All you people (using that term broadly) saying these pathetic creatures should have prepared -- FEMA tricked them. Ordered them out of their houses, probably, put them in an enclosed shelter, then moved them to worse conditions they surely had not prepared for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459



FEMA tricked them to begin with by saying to store 3 days food and water while knowing damn well they could not adequately respond to a widespread disaster in that short time.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


FEMA tricked them??? If they are so stupid and incompetent they need FEMA to tell them what to do they don't deserve any better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26957116


Have at least 1 months supply of food and other necessities. Don't depend on government, they are not your friend.
 Quoting: INK3


Where do you stash them, high up in a tree, so that they're still there after a flood?

Rolling eyes ...
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Fuck that fat shit Christie he's the one who bowed down to Emperor Obama and blew the whole fucking election. Let Jersey go to fucking hell and be quick about it. Lots of other cities got hit by that storm and you didn't see all the mayors lined up try to kiss the Presidential wang like Christie did.

He's a traitor and a fat piece of shit. Now he's crying about Jersey. The poor mafia can't get any work because the city is a mess boo-hoo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8980350


He's a republican which means a majority of voters in NJ elected him so it can't be that everybody in NJ is a libtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27227251


True, and BTW as a New Jersyan, I'm very impressed that Christie told everyone he didn't give a damn about election politics, his state was devastated. Go Christie! (he needs to lay off the cheesesteaks though, seriously.)
 Quoting: INK3


Were you as pleased as he hoped that finally, in the middle of all that disaster, Bruce Springsteen had finally called him a friend? Christie got more emotional about that than anything else I've seen during this period.
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For crying out loud. They have shelter. They may not be toasty warm BUT they're surviving which, by the looks of it, is their typical white trash lifestyle. When you live at the edge of poverty on welfare and disaster strikes you will find yourself in a tent. That's the best that can be expected when you don't work, have no friends and no savings He should be grateful. That he's not, shows why he's where he's at in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26957116


...Said the corporate douche.


Not everyone is edumacated or has even the opportunity to have enough money to prepped. Not all of them are "white trash" either, a lot of actual working middle class people in there. When your house gets flooded and shit blows all over the place it doesn't matter. YOu're homeless for the time. These shelters are death traps. And they are also designed to get people ready for prison camp style living for the po'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20581494


NO ONE IN THAT SHELTER IS MIDDLE CLASS. They are all lower class. When your house gets flooded and you're middle class, you call the insurance agent and move to a hotel or the home of a friend/relative. When you are lower class, you call FEMA and then bitch because your cot broke and you're cold. He's ungrateful and that's why he's where he is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26957116


I looked on zillow.com at the prices of houses for sale in that town. They are mostly over $500,000. This is of course left-over data from before the storm (it's pretty funny to look at a picture of a pretty $1.3 million waterfront house and realize it is surely no more), but it tells us that it's at least a middle-class place. How could you be living in a house worth over $300,000 and not be called middle class?

Maybe they didn't have private flood insurance. Or maybe they did, but it's actually Federal flood insurance sold thru private companies, which is how I am told they do it. And maybe that Federal flood insurance's solution to this problem is to fall back on the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Do you have any specific knowledge adequate to answer my questions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


You want to show me the $300k house this loser on disability owns??? Tell me the name of his insurance agent??? You're saying he has money for a $300k house but no money in savings to find adequate shelter for his family??? This man is a failure as a husband and father and he's blaming FEMA.
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The fact they aren't letting people charge stuff and keep talking about this should be enough for people to realize this is bad, really bad.
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Please explain to me why there are posters hating on the Democrats and Obama and wanting freebies too like housing and clothes and food ASAP? I thought you guys were all John Galt!
I am all for helping but isn't that a commie attitude to the Romney crowd? Just trying to understand....
 Quoting: kirkita


People of all political parties were screaming just as much about Bush and FEMA after Katrina. A ton of our tax money goes to those suckers, ostensibly to mitigate disasters such as this and to help our fellow countrymen who are affected by it, not to let them go hungry and freeze to death while the government drags its incompetent bloated collective ass along the path to yet another big FAIL.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog



They aren't freezing to death. It's snowing and they're in tents, it's going to be cold. When one fails to prepare (SAVINGS) and disaster strikes you will find yourself in a tent. Cold. And maybe even hungry. Thats why we prepare. And save. If you're unable to save, then you're stuck with whatever you can get from FEMA, which anyone who was around during Bush should know isn't much.
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Fuck that fat shit Christie he's the one who bowed down to Emperor Obama and blew the whole fucking election. Let Jersey go to fucking hell and be quick about it. Lots of other cities got hit by that storm and you didn't see all the mayors lined up try to kiss the Presidential wang like Christie did.

He's a traitor and a fat piece of shit. Now he's crying about Jersey. The poor mafia can't get any work because the city is a mess boo-hoo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8980350


He's a republican which means a majority of voters in NJ elected him so it can't be that everybody in NJ is a libtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27227251


True, and BTW as a New Jersyan, I'm very impressed that Christie told everyone he didn't give a damn about election politics, his state was devastated. Go Christie! (he needs to lay off the cheesesteaks though, seriously.)
 Quoting: INK3


I have to say Christie did not bow down to Obama. He dropped bi partisan politics for an emergency. NJ and Christie do not kiss ass, just not M O in NJ. He is no traitor, very republican. Now he could lose some weight, bc his heart must be pumping overload with all the excitment and extra weight. He does not need a heart attack before the presidential election of 2016.
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awww gee, i had to have cable tv with the deluxe nfl package, so no, i couldn't save for a disaster like this, to pay for a hotel room for a few weeks, besides, it's the governments responsibility to care for me, wah, i'm just a lost little sheeple, help me

this is america, so we should be staying in a nice hotel that the government pays for, they can just print the money needed to pay for it, what good is being a citizen of a free country if they don't give you things for free, that's not a free country, so keep america free, give freedom
 Quoting: Greg Hutz 1218784


I hope you lose everything someday in a disaster, and then maybe you'd have half a heart.

Having heat/ GOOD shelter is something that every person should have, period. This is ridiculous.
 Quoting: amywood71605


Totally agree but it is your responsibility to take care of yourself not the governments. I konw a few people in Jersey, they are not complaining about the government not giving them everything becuase they knew a hurricane was coming and prepared for it. they didn't sit around waiting on the government.
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Same with my friends. No one I know in NY is complaining.
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Wow. I thought more folks were beyond the left vs right paradigm bullshit here (remember.. social engineering? divide and conquer?) If peeps on a conspiracy website can't even see this, we are truly fucked.

It really doesn't matter if you've prepped and stock piled does it, if your house is totally destroyed.

Do you really believe Romney would have managed this differently?

So many hateful,self righteous assholes on this thread. Really sad. :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3041808


The real problem is the electrical grid, and the utility companies unable to repair, reestablish service. Their total neglect of infrastructure and ill preparedness is creating the bottleneck for people to return to their homes...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


Are you drinking the kool aid being served by Gov. Cuomo?

The only way to "prepare" for this disaster, utility-wise, would have been to bury all the lines underground. That would have helped in a lot of places including where I am.

Should they have buried all the lines in old neighborhoods in a 100 mile radius of NYC? Was money provided to pay for it? Should it have been included in the rate base? Would the utility commission have approved the rate case to do that?

Sometimes a disaster occurs that overcomes your infrastructure, whatever that infrastructure is. In fact, if you build a different infrastructure and you believe as I do that this was weather used as a weapon, then the event would have been modified to exploit the weaknesses of THAT infrastructure. When your infrastructure is defeated, you have to scramble, act intelligently, and I thought it could go unsaid that you should not sabotage the victims.
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Nevertheless, the real problem is reestablishing the electrical grid. And there is a host of problems with the damage, with Con Ed et al, with relying on a management team that doesnt have the resources, or know how to get things up and running. They are overwhelmed and ill prepared, obviously. What I cant understand is who is monitoring them. Does the governor/mayor/Prez simply expect progress reports, or are they getting more involved supplying know how, manpower, equipment??
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...Said the corporate douche.


Not everyone is edumacated or has even the opportunity to have enough money to prepped. Not all of them are "white trash" either, a lot of actual working middle class people in there. When your house gets flooded and shit blows all over the place it doesn't matter. YOu're homeless for the time. These shelters are death traps. And they are also designed to get people ready for prison camp style living for the po'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20581494


NO ONE IN THAT SHELTER IS MIDDLE CLASS. They are all lower class. When your house gets flooded and you're middle class, you call the insurance agent and move to a hotel or the home of a friend/relative. When you are lower class, you call FEMA and then bitch because your cot broke and you're cold. He's ungrateful and that's why he's where he is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26957116


I looked on zillow.com at the prices of houses for sale in that town. They are mostly over $500,000. This is of course left-over data from before the storm (it's pretty funny to look at a picture of a pretty $1.3 million waterfront house and realize it is surely no more), but it tells us that it's at least a middle-class place. How could you be living in a house worth over $300,000 and not be called middle class?

Maybe they didn't have private flood insurance. Or maybe they did, but it's actually Federal flood insurance sold thru private companies, which is how I am told they do it. And maybe that Federal flood insurance's solution to this problem is to fall back on the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Do you have any specific knowledge adequate to answer my questions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


You want to show me the $300k house this loser on disability owns??? Tell me the name of his insurance agent??? You're saying he has money for a $300k house but no money in savings to find adequate shelter for his family??? This man is a failure as a husband and father and he's blaming FEMA.
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For what I know people who "own" a house have the least disposible income: most of it goes to mortgage, maintenance and taxes.
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Some US-People need to look at Japan,
we have still ca. "400.000" People (Four-hundred Thousand)
in our Emergency Camps but they spend their Time for Re-Organizing instead of waiting for a Heater!

Even a Country like the US of America need a bit of Time,
it can't and it will never work in between a few Days!
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Shhh!!! Here in the US we're 'entitled' and if we want to sit on our fat lazy backsides and complain that's what we'll do. It's the American way.
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NO ONE IN THAT SHELTER IS MIDDLE CLASS. They are all lower class. When your house gets flooded and you're middle class, you call the insurance agent and move to a hotel or the home of a friend/relative. When you are lower class, you call FEMA and then bitch because your cot broke and you're cold. He's ungrateful and that's why he's where he is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26957116


I looked on zillow.com at the prices of houses for sale in that town. They are mostly over $500,000. This is of course left-over data from before the storm (it's pretty funny to look at a picture of a pretty $1.3 million waterfront house and realize it is surely no more), but it tells us that it's at least a middle-class place. How could you be living in a house worth over $300,000 and not be called middle class?

Maybe they didn't have private flood insurance. Or maybe they did, but it's actually Federal flood insurance sold thru private companies, which is how I am told they do it. And maybe that Federal flood insurance's solution to this problem is to fall back on the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Do you have any specific knowledge adequate to answer my questions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


You want to show me the $300k house this loser on disability owns??? Tell me the name of his insurance agent??? You're saying he has money for a $300k house but no money in savings to find adequate shelter for his family??? This man is a failure as a husband and father and he's blaming FEMA.
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For what I know people who "own" a house have the least disposible income: most of it goes to mortgage, maintenance and taxes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


Then they were stupid and greedy and overbought for their income. Qualifying for a mortgage doesn't mean one can afford it.
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The guy interviewed in the article is not middle class, nor did he own the home. Read it, it says he is on disability and a renter.
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NO ONE IN THAT SHELTER IS MIDDLE CLASS. They are all lower class. When your house gets flooded and you're middle class, you call the insurance agent and move to a hotel or the home of a friend/relative. When you are lower class, you call FEMA and then bitch because your cot broke and you're cold. He's ungrateful and that's why he's where he is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26957116


I looked on zillow.com at the prices of houses for sale in that town. They are mostly over $500,000. This is of course left-over data from before the storm (it's pretty funny to look at a picture of a pretty $1.3 million waterfront house and realize it is surely no more), but it tells us that it's at least a middle-class place. How could you be living in a house worth over $300,000 and not be called middle class?

Maybe they didn't have private flood insurance. Or maybe they did, but it's actually Federal flood insurance sold thru private companies, which is how I am told they do it. And maybe that Federal flood insurance's solution to this problem is to fall back on the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Do you have any specific knowledge adequate to answer my questions?
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You want to show me the $300k house this loser on disability owns??? Tell me the name of his insurance agent??? You're saying he has money for a $300k house but no money in savings to find adequate shelter for his family??? This man is a failure as a husband and father and he's blaming FEMA.
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For what I know people who "own" a house have the least disposible income: most of it goes to mortgage, maintenance and taxes.
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I own my home. less than 25% of my income goes to mortgage, maintenace and taxes. But i was smart enough to not buy a house that i could not afford. What a concept that is.
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I looked on zillow.com at the prices of houses for sale in that town. They are mostly over $500,000. This is of course left-over data from before the storm (it's pretty funny to look at a picture of a pretty $1.3 million waterfront house and realize it is surely no more), but it tells us that it's at least a middle-class place. How could you be living in a house worth over $300,000 and not be called middle class?

Maybe they didn't have private flood insurance. Or maybe they did, but it's actually Federal flood insurance sold thru private companies, which is how I am told they do it. And maybe that Federal flood insurance's solution to this problem is to fall back on the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Do you have any specific knowledge adequate to answer my questions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


You want to show me the $300k house this loser on disability owns??? Tell me the name of his insurance agent??? You're saying he has money for a $300k house but no money in savings to find adequate shelter for his family??? This man is a failure as a husband and father and he's blaming FEMA.
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For what I know people who "own" a house have the least disposible income: most of it goes to mortgage, maintenance and taxes.
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I own my home. less than 25% of my income goes to mortgage, maintenace and taxes. But i was smart enough to not buy a house that i could not afford. What a concept that is.
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So you get a cookie with your lucky life! While others suffer. Find some compassion.
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I looked on zillow.com at the prices of houses for sale in that town. They are mostly over $500,000. This is of course left-over data from before the storm (it's pretty funny to look at a picture of a pretty $1.3 million waterfront house and realize it is surely no more), but it tells us that it's at least a middle-class place. How could you be living in a house worth over $300,000 and not be called middle class?

Maybe they didn't have private flood insurance. Or maybe they did, but it's actually Federal flood insurance sold thru private companies, which is how I am told they do it. And maybe that Federal flood insurance's solution to this problem is to fall back on the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Do you have any specific knowledge adequate to answer my questions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


You want to show me the $300k house this loser on disability owns??? Tell me the name of his insurance agent??? You're saying he has money for a $300k house but no money in savings to find adequate shelter for his family??? This man is a failure as a husband and father and he's blaming FEMA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26957116


For what I know people who "own" a house have the least disposible income: most of it goes to mortgage, maintenance and taxes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


I own my home. less than 25% of my income goes to mortgage, maintenace and taxes. But i was smart enough to not buy a house that i could not afford. What a concept that is.
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Good for you! And if disaster strikes you'll be able to recover more quickly than you otherwise would have. No more than 25% of disposable income should go to shelter. If you have to, live in a studio apt, get roommates, live with family.
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So you get a cookie with your lucky life! While others suffer. Find some compassion.
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how much of my hard earned money, i mean "lucky life" which you know nothing of, should i give away so that i can show compasion in your eyes? How much of what you have worked for do you give away?
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Re: Bitter cold inside a disaster shelter...."We got f--ked!"
When FEMA tricks people so that they do not prepare, that's the part that proves evil is a motivation, not just limited resources.

All you people (using that term broadly) saying these pathetic creatures should have prepared -- FEMA tricked them. Ordered them out of their houses, probably, put them in an enclosed shelter, then moved them to worse conditions they surely had not prepared for.
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FEMA tricked them to begin with by saying to store 3 days food and water while knowing damn well they could not adequately respond to a widespread disaster in that short time.
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FEMA tricked them??? If they are so stupid and incompetent they need FEMA to tell them what to do they don't deserve any better.
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Have at least 1 months supply of food and other necessities. Don't depend on government, they are not your friend.
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Fridge is out, the electricity is out, the gas is out. No water. Well, I guess you could eat potatoe chips, peanut butter, dried fruit. But who is prepared for total power and energy outage esp if your house is damaged? I am, but my gas is NOT piped in, I have a cylinder that lasts 2 months. I have a rain barrel that (when it isnt raining) refills every second day from the overflow up on the roof from the city. I live in a warm area, so dont have to worry about heat. My house is fire proof, made of cement and tile. I have well supplied markets nearby from a agricultural workforce that never stops. I have a garden, well endowed with compost and the all year weather that produces some basic necessities. Each month I refill my 20 gallon potable water bottle, and never depend on drinking water from the tap. It isnt necessary to spend extra and worry about storage or recycling goods, or being prepared or supporting a wasteful lifestyle when disaster strikes -- this is my routine,,,

I am fortunate, but I had to move out of the super sophisticated hyper dependent vulnerable infrastructure of the first world, and feel pity when it all goes wrong...
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So you get a cookie with your lucky life! While others suffer. Find some compassion.
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No. A cookie for intelligence, forethought, saving for a rainy day...

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