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WOW! NY considering using prison for displaced Sandy vitims!

 
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Has it begun?

Officials in New York are reportedly eyeing a recently-closed prison as temporary housing for people displaced by superstorm Sandy and this week's nor'easter.

The New York Post reports that state officials are considering the Arthur Kill Correctional Facility on Staten Island to feed and house as many as 900 victims with nowhere else to turn.



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24061376


It's a warm safe place to be during a brutal storm where people have no where else to go. FEMA abandoned them.

It's a great idea and people want to make this into some kind of conspiracy.

The real conspiracy would be: let the residents die of exposure and lack of food and water.

I'm thankful that these people will have a warm safe place to go, whether it be a prison or not.
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Yes!!! It's great:


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Okkkaaayyy...that was creepier than I expectedops!
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Ye think that´s scary? Wait till it´s the real thing!

cruise


How much more obvious can it get? They aren´t even trying to hide it anymore. I bet even if they slapped ankle chains on these people- everyone else would say something stupid like, "It´s probably for there own protection".
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Of COURSE it has actually begun. Can you say 'FEMA Camps',anyone?
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Bloomberg called them relocation camps, that was a statement when someone was complaining. I thought that was interesting.
Been concerned about people up there since he said it!
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THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA OR PUTTING PEOPLE INTO CAMPS. ETC. IT HAS TO DO WITH AVAILABILTY. BETTER TO HAVE A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD AND HEAT THAN SITTING IN THE STREETS.

ONE HAS TO MAKE USE OF WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN THE AREA SINCE FOLKS DONT SEEM PRONE TO GO ELSEWHERE. IN A CRISIS LIKE THIS, IT TAKES TIME FOR FEMA OR THE OTHER AGENCIES TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE. SO THEY DO WHAT THEY CAN IN THE MOMENT.

WHERE IS THE GRATITUDE?

JUST BECAUSE WE LIVE IN AMERICA DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE ABOVE LIVING IN TENT CITIES LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD.

BUT I CANT HELP BUT WONDER WHY THE HOTEL CHAINS ARENT MAKING ROOMS AVAILABLE?
shineon
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11/09/2012 01:45 PM
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Re: WOW! NY considering using prison for displaced Sandy vitims!
why not prisons?

it's not like there are millions upon millions of empty foreclosed homes all over the country...
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11/09/2012 01:46 PM
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why not prisons?

it's not like there are millions upon millions of empty foreclosed homes all over the country...
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wait, that won't work
what was i thinking?
those homes are "private" property
that would be socialism
because they're bank property
and it's not like we gave the banks trillions or anything...
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11/09/2012 01:47 PM
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This is a good idea.

It is vastly better than "Camp Freedom" in NJ.

3 hots and a cot in a heated sanitary building is exactly what displaced people need -- not what they want, but it's just right for a shelter.

Bloomberg was absolutely right to prevent Obama from going into NYC. The contrast is stark, not because FEMA is useless, but because apparently it is vicious.
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Hmm... This prison and six others were ordered closed just last year. That's pretty convenient. Lots of room for all

[link to www.governor.ny.gov]


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why not prisons?

it's not like there are millions upon millions of empty foreclosed homes all over the country...
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I thought about this the other day... There are so many vacant homes longing for a family to love them. This would be a great way for the banks to give back to the people....

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why not prisons?

it's not like there are millions upon millions of empty foreclosed homes all over the country...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27140202


wait, that won't work
what was i thinking?
those homes are "private" property
that would be socialism
because they're bank property
and it's not like we gave the banks trillions or anything...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27140202


Actually now the Fed substantially owns a lot of them and may have title in hand for some of them. So if the Fed is working together with Washington on this -- which is a part of Bernanke's job as I see it -- they could do this.
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Re: WOW! NY considering using prison for displaced Sandy vitims!
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA OR PUTTING PEOPLE INTO CAMPS. ETC. IT HAS TO DO WITH AVAILABILTY. BETTER TO HAVE A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD AND HEAT THAN SITTING IN THE STREETS.

ONE HAS TO MAKE USE OF WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN THE AREA SINCE FOLKS DONT SEEM PRONE TO GO ELSEWHERE. IN A CRISIS LIKE THIS, IT TAKES TIME FOR FEMA OR THE OTHER AGENCIES TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE. SO THEY DO WHAT THEY CAN IN THE MOMENT.

WHERE IS THE GRATITUDE?

JUST BECAUSE WE LIVE IN AMERICA DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE ABOVE LIVING IN TENT CITIES LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD.


BUT I CANT HELP BUT WONDER WHY THE HOTEL CHAINS ARENT MAKING ROOMS AVAILABLE?
 Quoting: shineon


okay creepy apologist, nervous that your team isn't looking so good, or people are catching on?

I already know your kind want the US to become like "the rest of the world" and by that you mean the lowest of the third world...

oh yeah and one more thing:

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU YELLING IN ALL CAPS?

stfu
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Re: WOW! NY considering using prison for displaced Sandy vitims!
This is a good idea.

It is vastly better than "Camp Freedom" in NJ.

3 hots and a cot in a heated sanitary building is exactly what displaced people need -- not what they want, but it's just right for a shelter.

Bloomberg was absolutely right to prevent Obama from going into NYC. The contrast is stark, not because FEMA is useless, but because apparently it is vicious.
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Great!

You go first

I love when do-gooders are so quick to shove solutions down other people's throats that they would never consider for themselves or their families in a million years
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Obama will take a big fat 4 year dump on his voter base now that he doesn't need them more.
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Absolutely correct. Good-bye,Beloved Country...
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words of wisdom from Sweden.
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BUT I CANT HELP BUT WONDER WHY THE HOTEL CHAINS ARENT MAKING ROOMS AVAILABLE?
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Because any hotels within a 150-mile radius of the NY-NJ metro area were booked FULL before and in the days after the hurricane! Some people DID flee!!!
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Re: WOW! NY considering using prison for displaced Sandy vitims!
why not prisons?

it's not like there are millions upon millions of empty foreclosed homes all over the country...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27140202


wait, that won't work
what was i thinking?
those homes are "private" property
that would be socialism
because they're bank property
and it's not like we gave the banks trillions or anything...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27140202


Actually now the Fed substantially owns a lot of them and may have title in hand for some of them. So if the Fed is working together with Washington on this -- which is a part of Bernanke's job as I see it -- they could do this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


they won't admit to owning them i doubt
they'd rather they sit empty

but, if they did do this just imagine...
every neighborhood could have its own section 8 housing
that would help the tensions in this country, wouldn't it?
people lose their homes only to watch the government give them away
while the former homeowners are on the streets or living in dumps?
that wouldn't cause any resentment, huh?
hmmmm
lots of food for thought there
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Re: WOW! NY considering using prison for displaced Sandy vitims!
why not prisons?

it's not like there are millions upon millions of empty foreclosed homes all over the country...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27140202


wait, that won't work
what was i thinking?
those homes are "private" property
that would be socialism
because they're bank property
and it's not like we gave the banks trillions or anything...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27140202


Actually now the Fed substantially owns a lot of them and may have title in hand for some of them. So if the Fed is working together with Washington on this -- which is a part of Bernanke's job as I see it -- they could do this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


they won't admit to owning them i doubt
they'd rather they sit empty

but, if they did do this just imagine...
every neighborhood could have its own section 8 housing
that would help the tensions in this country, wouldn't it?
people lose their homes only to watch the government give them away
while the former homeowners are on the streets or living in dumps?
that wouldn't cause any resentment, huh?
hmmmm
lots of food for thought there
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27140202


but, then, keep in mind
the fed is not exactly "federal"
it's a system of privatize the profits at our expense and then socialize the losses
the houses they've gained are "profit" to them
but then, what isn't?
we should all register as banks
:)
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11/09/2012 01:58 PM
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This whole time when they have been talking about "eradicating poverty" they really meant "eradicating the poor"

hiding
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11/09/2012 02:01 PM
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Obama will take a big fat 4 year dump on his voter base now that he doesn't need them more.
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Absolutely correct. Good-bye,Beloved Country...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3650237
Yep, that's what the communists do with the useful idiots when they're no longer useful.
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WHAT FEMA camps???

Surely if there were any of those mythical camps, now would be the time to unveil them, but not a camp to be found.
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The Jews thought they were being rescued from the ghettos and taken to resorts to receive free medical care and warm meals because they had no idea these death camps existed and were waiting on them with gas chambers. I highly doubt the Nazis would have shown their hand too soon by unveiling their camps to the locals during a winter storm. Once word gets out, you can't put that genie back in the bottle!

But good luck with that. Just be sure you request the luxury passanger car when they tell you to board the train for the "resort".

sheepsheepsheepsheepsheepsheep
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bump
My point, exactly!
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Ignorance is not bliss. It pays to know your history. Too bad the vast majority of Americans forgot what little valid info their brainwashing education included.
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agreed; know your history


The jews went without protest into the waiting trains

Americans would do themselves a service to watch those old
movie reels made during WWII
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11/09/2012 02:03 PM
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THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA OR PUTTING PEOPLE INTO CAMPS. ETC. IT HAS TO DO WITH AVAILABILTY. BETTER TO HAVE A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD AND HEAT THAN SITTING IN THE STREETS.

ONE HAS TO MAKE USE OF WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN THE AREA SINCE FOLKS DONT SEEM PRONE TO GO ELSEWHERE. IN A CRISIS LIKE THIS, IT TAKES TIME FOR FEMA OR THE OTHER AGENCIES TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE. SO THEY DO WHAT THEY CAN IN THE MOMENT.

WHERE IS THE GRATITUDE?

JUST BECAUSE WE LIVE IN AMERICA DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE ABOVE LIVING IN TENT CITIES LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD.

BUT I CANT HELP BUT WONDER WHY THE HOTEL CHAINS ARENT MAKING ROOMS AVAILABLE?
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another do
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11/09/2012 02:08 PM
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Camp Freedom! 5a
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Sounds right, given that 35% of people would be ok with a cavity search to get on a plane!!! Why not voluntary prison???? Anything for 3 hots and a cot right?
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And then, some will decline business travel opportunities because they do not consent to cavity searches for the privilege of air travel.

Ever been raped? Ever been raped in the presence of others? Ever been gang raped? Ever been sexually molested in public? Those who have know what "cavity search" equals.
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I am willing to bet that if you were one of those cold, hungry and displaced persons...you'd be first in line for a nice warm bed and three hot meals and a shower.
What if you have young children...would you deny this opportunity just because it's an empty prison?

Try putting yourself in their situation as you sit at your desk in your nice warm home with a plate of hot food in front of you while you type disparaging remarks about how TPTB are trying to enslave us. I see it as someone trying (at least trying) to find a humane solution to this terrible plight these people are going through.

These families were just like yours...they had homes, mortgages, heat, food, clothes, until last week.

Natural disasters happen. And as untrusting of GOVt. that I am personally, I would be the first in line to keep my family warm and fed.

It's only the beginning of November people...do you realize how cold New England gets in the winter?
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thats what they should have done with all the criminals who relocated to the streets of houston after katrina hit new orleans...
Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream...
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Kill Prison or Camp Freedom? What a choice! Check the menus.
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It's a warm safe place to be during a brutal storm where people have no where else to go. FEMA abandoned them.

It's a great idea and people want to make this into some kind of conspiracy.

The real conspiracy would be: let the residents die of exposure and lack of food and water.

I'm thankful that these people will have a warm safe place to go, whether it be a prison or not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21140569


Yes!!! It's great:


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26401225


Okkkaaayyy...that was creepier than I expectedops!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26529162


Ye think that´s scary? Wait till it´s the real thing!

cruise


How much more obvious can it get? They aren´t even trying to hide it anymore. I bet even if they slapped ankle chains on these people- everyone else would say something stupid like, "It´s probably for there own protection".
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THIS
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That was the plan all along. Get the people used to stuff like that, so they wont have a problem with FEMA camps.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
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trail of tears
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Camp Freedom! 5a
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Hell YEAH! Sign me up!banana2ratdancewoohoobdancemoshpitanawavehappydance
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Funny how the people who are assuming the worst and complaining don't have the need to go to these shelters.

Enjoy your hot lunch as you sit in your nice warm home.

ASSHOLES.
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"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful.
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It is already here. Look at any rail-head & mainlines, interstates roads, rural roads transporting the more malevolent armor; they are everywhere, and they are not US properties.