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Meggarea User ID: 1585244 United States 11/09/2012 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My youngest who's father died within a month of his life, has been spoiled. He had wonderful people in his life who have spoiled him from birth. Quoting: A Friend They are witnessing the fruits of their labor and they don't like what they see but they want to blame my son when I think it is their fault mostly and their anger is misplaced. I know many of you will put the blame on me, his mother. I've done the best I can but when there are people in your life who'll give you anything you want, that's hard to beat. How would you treat this situation? So how many children with how many different fathers? 4 children with 2 fathers. I am divorced and a widow. The other three are fine because they were taught that no means no. The little guy skipped that lesson. Then you must teach him no does indeed mean no. Send him to his room if he keeps bothering you after you say no. Put your foot down with the loser relatives, and don't let them walk all over you. There are too many entitled kids in this world, don't be that mom. You have the power. Use it. |
Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 27373782 United Kingdom 11/09/2012 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4 children with 2 fathers. I am divorced and a widow. The other three are fine because they were taught that no means no. The little guy skipped that lesson. :spanking101: I am getting that more and more! He is a screamer. He's screaming before he even gets hit! I don't want the neighbors to call the cops on me. I suppose I could take him to a secluded place....no! You see how these things can be taken badly?! Good grief! Take a step back, woman, and read what you posted. I wish you would send the child to me. I would take care of him. And yes, I would most likely spoil him. You know I'm only kidding. But you get my meaning. Love your child. Don't hurt him. I speak from the perspective of an old fogey who is probably not long for this world, so my view might not be valid from your point of view. But I always try to give my grandson whatever his heart desires, and I try to give it to him Now, as opposed to waiting for his birthday, Christmas, etc, because I realise I might not be around then, or some other circumstances might arise which prevents me from doing things for him. I can't always give him what he wants, but I try to. And if I spend a few bucks on trying to make him happy, even if it's only for a few hours, then so be it. I would rather him be happy for a few hours than not at all. Yep, I have often been accused of spoiling him, much to the annoyance of his mother. But what can I do? LoL. Maybe one day you will see things as I do. You know how grown ups are always telling kids that they will see things differently in a few years? And how older grown ups are always telling younger grown ups that they also will see things differently in a few more years? Well...maybe that's you...in a few years from now. LoL. The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27392043 United States 11/09/2012 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My youngest who's father died within a month of his life, has been spoiled. He had wonderful people in his life who have spoiled him from birth. Quoting: A Friend They are witnessing the fruits of their labor and they don't like what they see but they want to blame my son when I think it is their fault mostly and their anger is misplaced. I know many of you will put the blame on me, his mother. I've done the best I can but when there are people in your life who'll give you anything you want, that's hard to beat. How would you treat this situation? So how many children with how many different fathers? 4 children with 2 fathers. I am divorced and a widow. The other three are fine because they were taught that no means no. The little guy skipped that lesson. :spanking101: He is 8,dont think this will work. take all his material shit away and see how he likes it.... im raisin my 9 yo grand-daughter and between the early spankings and taking stuff away has her on the right path. Bet this mothers other children really get along with their brother great..LOL |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 23968297 United States 11/09/2012 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best way to teach children appreciation, is to teach them empathy. Empathy is tricky to teach, being that it can also cause problems if approached in a way that is too disturbing for young eyes. For example, images of starving children. Your son needs to learn what it is like to go without. He will fight back hard, due to ingrained behavior patterns. But after a few days/weeks he will begin to understand the change and most likely, appreciate it due to learning how lucky he is in comparison to others. Rule number one...when told 'no' regarding something he wants...if he protests and throws a tantrum, remove one item he enjoys from his room. All children have currency, that which they value. He will test you one this, and you will need to keep removing items until he realizes that you are serious and this isn't just a passing phase. If he behave appropriately when told 'no' he earns one item of YOUR choosing back. After that you can start a 'star chart' and document his progress that way...of course being able to EARN something he desires after his hard work at initiating change. Teach your son empathy and appreciation. Tell they who spoil him, that it will stop and no longer be tolerated. Also, perhaps involving your son in something like Big Brothers of America would help as well. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14997497 United States 11/09/2012 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is all I would be able to say for sure w/o knowing you or your child. They are all different and there is no "one" way to raise any child. Corporal punishment is reserved for those low IQ parents that cannot think their way into being a teacher, mentor, parent. They don't/can't think and react w/anger usually and rely on a method that may work in the immediate but creates problems in the long run. Now, if you want to see your kid grow into a sociopathic right wing neocon nazi cop wannabe asshole....well disregard what I have said and follow Brief's advice. Just love 'em and remember you are there to teach and guide and NOT to be the grantor of their immediate whims.... use the wisdom you've gained in life to help them learn and become a good person with high character. Violence begets more violence....so punishing that incorporates violence will only grow this lesson in the child. |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 11/09/2012 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FWIW, I'm a father of four.... and here's some advice. Do NOT EVER take advice of any kind from Brief. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14997497 That is all I would be able to say for sure w/o knowing you or your child. They are all different and there is no "one" way to raise any child. Corporal punishment is reserved for those low IQ parents that cannot think their way into being a teacher, mentor, parent. They don't/can't think and react w/anger usually and rely on a method that may work in the immediate but creates problems in the long run. Now, if you want to see your kid grow into a sociopathic right wing neocon nazi cop wannabe asshole....well disregard what I have said and follow Brief's advice. Just love 'em and remember you are there to teach and guide and NOT to be the grantor of their immediate whims.... use the wisdom you've gained in life to help them learn and become a good person with high character. Violence begets more violence....so punishing that incorporates violence will only grow this lesson in the child. Spare the rod and spoil the child... Sometimes you can take all their stuff and put them in "time out" and never make any progress...you probably don't even have children. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 23968297 United States 11/09/2012 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes you can take all their stuff and put them in "time out" and never make any progress Quoting: BRIEF Then it wasn't done properly. A child will look for a work around. As adult would as well to get back that which they value. If they find a hole, they will utilize it and if you do not perceive of it before they do, then you may fail that time. Just try again. Learning process for all around. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27329750 United States 11/09/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say no but they never do. They start out with no and change to yes. So, even when I say no, he expects to eventually hear yes. Quoting: A Friend you need to tell them no as well. he is your child, you have ultimate say. i've always discussed the value of things with my son. to just give a kid whatever they want without questioning where it came from, issues like outsourcing and child labor, media programming and the fallacies of a materially based value system, is to raise yet another sheep. my son is informed, for example he reads ingredient labels for high fructose corn syrup, sometimes he wants crap food cause it's there but he has no prob if i say NO and get him a healthy treat instead, like waiting till we can afford organic cookies instead of buying chips ahoy on sale. he'd rather have organic strawberries than that shit anyways. teaching children critical thinking is a lost art, like hugs and true connection with our kids has become. kids aren't accessories, and will never reach their potential if they are treated as such. young girls are taught to get what they want by 'being cute' and manipulative, never really exercising their minds. that is never emphasized as a value. if you tell your relatives NO, they're going to make it covert, and teach him to go behind your back and be dishonest. typical male. |
AFGW User ID: 21140569 United States 11/09/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My youngest who's father died within a month of his life, has been spoiled. He had wonderful people in his life who have spoiled him from birth. Quoting: A Friend They are witnessing the fruits of their labor and they don't like what they see but they want to blame my son when I think it is their fault mostly and their anger is misplaced. I know many of you will put the blame on me, his mother. I've done the best I can but when there are people in your life who'll give you anything you want, that's hard to beat. How would you treat this situation? So how many children with how many different fathers? What kind of stupid insinuation is that? Are you trying to call this concerned mother a whore because she has multiple children with different father's (even if that's the case) Maybe the guy fathered all the kids, but died when the youngest was born. What would that have to do with her concern over her son at all? Her concern is that this child was treated differently because of the death of his father at such a young age and it did more harm than good and she is trying to be a great Mom and seek advice on curbing her son's psychological sense of entitlement. My advice for her is...8yr old children (especially boys) are selfish, I don't mean this in an insulting way, but that's just the way they are...and if they are given special treatment, compared to other siblings, it will go to their head...nip this in the bud especially before puberty...I don't know how you would go about nipping this in the bud, as I am not a professional therapist or anything like that...I'm just a mom myself...and both of my kids are completely different people and I had to deal with their issues in different ways that worked for them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27329750 United States 11/09/2012 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FWIW, I'm a father of four.... and here's some advice. Do NOT EVER take advice of any kind from Brief. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14997497 That is all I would be able to say for sure w/o knowing you or your child. They are all different and there is no "one" way to raise any child. Corporal punishment is reserved for those low IQ parents that cannot think their way into being a teacher, mentor, parent. They don't/can't think and react w/anger usually and rely on a method that may work in the immediate but creates problems in the long run. Now, if you want to see your kid grow into a sociopathic right wing neocon nazi cop wannabe asshole....well disregard what I have said and follow Brief's advice. Just love 'em and remember you are there to teach and guide and NOT to be the grantor of their immediate whims.... use the wisdom you've gained in life to help them learn and become a good person with high character. Violence begets more violence....so punishing that incorporates violence will only grow this lesson in the child. Spare the rod and spoil the child... Sometimes you can take all their stuff and put them in "time out" and never make any progress...you probably don't even have children. oh shit....did you breed, brief? god help us. |
Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 27373782 United Kingdom 11/09/2012 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FWIW, I'm a father of four.... and here's some advice. Do NOT EVER take advice of any kind from Brief. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14997497 You do realise, don't you, that Brief generally doesn't give advice, he's just largely messing about. It's called Internet Role Play, and Brief is very good at it. Probably one of the funniest people on GLP. People like him are what makes GLP worth reading. Lighten up a little and see GLP for what it is...a place to have fun. Brief is a good guy. In fact, I'm going to give him some green karma (not that I believe in karma, it's all fun and games, you see) for making GLP such a fun place to be. - the former bouncing elephant guy The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 11/09/2012 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes you can take all their stuff and put them in "time out" and never make any progress Quoting: BRIEF Then it wasn't done properly. A child will look for a work around. As adult would as well to get back that which they value. If they find a hole, they will utilize it and if you do not perceive of it before they do, then you may fail that time. Just try again. Learning process for all around. :) The very intelligent don't need toys or electronics to entertain themselves...they can have fun staring at a wall and using their mind, so removing those items is useless. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 23968297 United States 11/09/2012 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes you can take all their stuff and put them in "time out" and never make any progress Quoting: BRIEF Then it wasn't done properly. A child will look for a work around. As adult would as well to get back that which they value. If they find a hole, they will utilize it and if you do not perceive of it before they do, then you may fail that time. Just try again. Learning process for all around. :) The very intelligent don't need toys or electronics to entertain themselves...they can have fun staring at a wall and using their mind, so removing those items is useless. That's ridiculous. All children have that which they value. Period. Remove that. Show me a child who is content to stare at walls of an above average capacity of Mind, and I will show a child which doesn't misbehave. For instance, one of my favorite lines to utilize with toddlers is this... "When you are ready to use your normal voice, I will be ready to hear you" Works every time. After all, that is what they are really looking for. To be heard, and respected. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
A Friend (OP) User ID: 27389548 United States 11/09/2012 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes you can take all their stuff and put them in "time out" and never make any progress Quoting: BRIEF Then it wasn't done properly. A child will look for a work around. As adult would as well to get back that which they value. If they find a hole, they will utilize it and if you do not perceive of it before they do, then you may fail that time. Just try again. Learning process for all around. :) The very intelligent don't need toys or electronics to entertain themselves...they can have fun staring at a wall and using their mind, so removing those items is useless. That's ridiculous. All children have that which they value. Period. Remove that. Show me a child who is content to stare at walls of an above average capacity of Mind, and I will show a child which doesn't misbehave. For instance, one of my favorite lines to utilize with toddlers is this... "When you are ready to use your normal voice, I will be ready to hear you" Works every time. After all, that is what they are really looking for. To be heard, and respected. :) But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 27373782 United Kingdom 11/09/2012 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes you can take all their stuff and put them in "time out" and never make any progress Quoting: BRIEF Then it wasn't done properly. A child will look for a work around. As adult would as well to get back that which they value. If they find a hole, they will utilize it and if you do not perceive of it before they do, then you may fail that time. Just try again. Learning process for all around. :) The very intelligent don't need toys or electronics to entertain themselves...they can have fun staring at a wall and using their mind, so removing those items is useless. That's ridiculous. Show me a child who is content to stare at walls of an above average capacity of Mind, and I will show a child which doesn't misbehave. Your post kind of contradicts itself. The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 23968297 United States 11/09/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's ridiculous. Quoting: Seer777 Show me a child who is content to stare at walls of an above average capacity of Mind, and I will show a child which doesn't misbehave. Your post kind of contradicts itself. How so? Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 27373782 United Kingdom 11/09/2012 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's ridiculous. Quoting: Seer777 Show me a child who is content to stare at walls of an above average capacity of Mind, and I will show a child which doesn't misbehave. Your post kind of contradicts itself. How so? Because on the one hand you berate Brief for suggesting that a child should be made to stare at walls, and then you say that such a child doesn't misbehave. Simple logic, really. The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
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A Friend (OP) User ID: 27389548 United States 11/09/2012 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one knows how to solve your problem of glowing in the dark, so there's no point in asking. Dang! But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 23968297 United States 11/09/2012 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's ridiculous. Quoting: Seer777 Show me a child who is content to stare at walls of an above average capacity of Mind, and I will show a child which doesn't misbehave. Your post kind of contradicts itself. How so? Because on the one hand you berate Brief for suggesting that a child should be made to stare at walls, and then you say that such a child doesn't misbehave. Simple logic, really. Perhaps you should read this again... The very intelligent don't need toys or electronics to entertain themselves...they can have fun staring at a wall and using their mind, so removing those items is useless. Quoting: BRIEF What I felt was 'ridiculous' was Brief alluding that a very intelligent child can not be reasoned with. Intelligent children have currency as well, and by removing that, corrections in behaviors can be made. The parent just needs to be, at least as smart as the child to figure out what exactly that is. Is what I was suggesting. Either way. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 27373782 United Kingdom 11/09/2012 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because on the one hand you berate Brief for suggesting that a child should be made to stare at walls, and then you say that such a child doesn't misbehave. Simple logic, really. Perhaps you should read this again... The very intelligent don't need toys or electronics to entertain themselves...they can have fun staring at a wall and using their mind, so removing those items is useless. Quoting: BRIEF What I felt was 'ridiculous' was Brief alluding that a very intelligent child can not be reasoned with. Intelligent children have currency as well, and by removing that, corrections in behaviors can be made. The parent just needs to be, at least as smart as the child to figure out what exactly that is. Is what I was suggesting. Either way. Nope. You lost me there as well. It's probably me. Can't handle all the twists and turns of an argument at the moment. Still...I see your flowers, and I raise you some more Flowers are great things. An international language. Much like music. The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 11/09/2012 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because on the one hand you berate Brief for suggesting that a child should be made to stare at walls, and then you say that such a child doesn't misbehave. Simple logic, really. Perhaps you should read this again... The very intelligent don't need toys or electronics to entertain themselves...they can have fun staring at a wall and using their mind, so removing those items is useless. Quoting: BRIEF What I felt was 'ridiculous' was Brief alluding that a very intelligent child can not be reasoned with. Intelligent children have currency as well, and by removing that, corrections in behaviors can be made. The parent just needs to be, at least as smart as the child to figure out what exactly that is. Is what I was suggesting. Either way. Not when the misbehaving child has a reason and is deliberately trying to irritate a parent due to the unfairness that child sees in the way they are being treated. My first born would deliberately misbehave for my wife while I was at work and she was at home with him, because she did not play with him or read to him, but when I got home he would run to me and we'd play and read together and would do anything I asked of him without hesitation... Of course that frustrated her even more so the time outs, the reasoning, and taking away of toys had no effect...finally I was able to convince her to work with him and play together and he got better, but she went right back to the same old ways eventually... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 23968297 United States 11/09/2012 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 23968297 United States 11/09/2012 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not when the misbehaving child has a reason and is deliberately trying to irritate a parent due to the unfairness that child sees in the way they are being treated. Quoting: BRIEF My first born would deliberately misbehave for my wife while I was at work and she was at home with him, because she did not play with him or read to him, but when I got home he would run to me and we'd play and read together and would do anything I asked of him without hesitation... Of course that frustrated her even more so the time outs, the reasoning, and taking away of toys had no effect...finally I was able to convince her to work with him and play together and he got better, but she went right back to the same old ways eventually... I hear you. And your answer is in your own words. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 27373782 United Kingdom 11/09/2012 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
A Friend (OP) User ID: 27389548 United States 11/09/2012 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Still...I see your flowers, and I raise you some more Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny Flowers are great things. An international language. Much like music. :) Nice picture. Worth a bit of green karma, I think. Seer777 is always beautiful. But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24710731 United States 11/09/2012 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First, read the book Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother: [link to www.amazon.com] If that doesn't work, military school. Perhaps this one: [link to www.forkunion.com] I am totally serious. |
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