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Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?

 
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It's heartbreaking the way you're treated here. People can be so nasty.

Just remember that verse you post about the signs of the end. The love of many would cool off, etc. It's not cooled off, it's either absent or frozen.

Just remember, in the end, you'll be the winner. You've tried to help people and stood for what you believe.

Steve Jones, in this video, reminds me of you.

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evolutionist brainwash our children into believing satans lies. We have gone to the point of no return. The only way to deal with them all is to kill them.
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Oh Jesus Christ (incoming bad karma)

Your absolutely right, we should believe some BS in a book over logic... we are at a point of no return, if you want to help... stop procreating. Evolution will then show you how well it works.
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Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?
No dipshit.

But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers as a means of sexual attracting mates, to continue the species.

But that's probably a little too advanced a concept for your little miserable retarded little creationist brain.
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norespect

that makes no sense retard.
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Then, please, oh master of science, explain it to me so that it does make sense.

Creationist tard.
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Easy. God created it the way it is.
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probably THE laziest answer I have ever heard.
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Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?
Dinosaurs.
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....Hey, you might be on to something really scientific, like this guy
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So the species of T-Rex that was covered in chick feathers... NVM I am done with this thread, I cant even get through the first page without feeling very sorry for our people. You think like a child, I really hope you give yourself the opportunity to view things with clear eyes and an open heart rather then force biases upon yourself.

Read the texts, do the studying, then we can talk... until then this is plain childish. These evolution threads are literally a joke. I laugh at them, OUT LOUD.

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And this years darwin award goes to dgn, oh wait it cant......
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Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?
DGN, I really like your threads, they're entertaining. But seriously....

Can you prove your creationist theory? Can you prove that God intelligently designed everything on this planet?

And just to keep it real...no bible quotes please? Actual proof, not some book equally at odds as Mr Darwin's theories...

You never address this request...

poop
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Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?
>peacocks lol

You think all peacocks look like that all the time?

OP, have you ever even seen a peacock? Most of the time they just look like birds.

They use their tails to attract mates and to scare off smaller predators.

THIS IS ALL BASIC SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE. IF YOU MADE IT THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND YOU MISSED THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU.
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typical of this fool...as soon as he'scalled out to actually back up his argument he disappears...what a waste of time
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Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?
Does it really make a difference how it all began. Why doesn't anyone give a shit about what we are doing right now. I mean, what are we doing? where are we going? Is this what life is all about, a stupid game of I'm right, no I'm right. Maybe we all really don't know anything.
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How it all began includes the answer of who will intercept man's total destruction of the earth by nuclear winter;
"We thank you, Jehovah God, the Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and begun ruling as king. 18 But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” Rv11:17
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Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?
Dinosaurs.
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....Hey, you might be on to something really scientific, like this guy
1rof1
1rof1
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So the species of T-Rex that was covered in chick feathers... NVM I am done with this thread, I cant even get through the first page without feeling very sorry for our people. You think like a child, I really hope you give yourself the opportunity to view things with clear eyes and an open heart rather then force biases upon yourself.

Read the texts, do the studying, then we can talk... until then this is plain childish. These evolution threads are literally a joke. I laugh at them, OUT LOUD.

rant
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Yepppers, me too, Darwin's theory is totally sy/fy humor from the dark side.
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>peacocks lol

You think all peacocks look like that all the time?

OP, have you ever even seen a peacock? Most of the time they just look like birds.

They use their tails to attract mates and to scare off smaller predators.

THIS IS ALL BASIC SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE. IF YOU MADE IT THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND YOU MISSED THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU.
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Right but my questions is not why they have big fancy tails, it's at point in time did a peacock, working in his molecular research lab write out the genetic formula to construct the tail? I believe it was divinely designed into the first peacock and genetically passed on to them all.
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Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?
when the males flash their tail feathers, the last thing they want is to be hidden.

it's rather ironic you chose this because the females gather to the male who has

largest, healthiest complete plumage .

survival of the fittest


beautiful example of darwinism
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when the males flash their tail feathers, the last thing they want is to be hidden.

it's rather ironic you chose this because the females gather to the male who has

largest, healthiest complete plumage .

survival of the fittest


beautiful example of darwinism
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So you put it off on Darwin to explain how mindless 'evolution' thought this up, and wrote the DNA codes into the peacock's genes?
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peacock feathers are to attract a mate, not for camoflage you jackass.
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Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?
No dipshit.

But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers as a means of sexual attracting mates, to continue the species.

But that's probably a little too advanced a concept for your little miserable retarded little creationist brain.
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norespect

that makes no sense retard.
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That makes perfect sense, unless it attracted prey. Which obviously it doesn't, else it wouldn't have such a look.
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peacock feathers are to attract a mate, not for camoflage you jackass.
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So you can rewrite your own dna codes and make your own self more attractive, like the bird did? How many times have you done this genius?
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peacock feathers are to attract a mate, not for camoflage you jackass.
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So you can rewrite your own dna codes and make your own self more attractive, like the bird did? How many times have you done this genius?
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Got any before and after photos?
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Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?
No dipshit.

But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers as a means of sexual attracting mates, to continue the species.

But that's probably a little too advanced a concept for your little miserable retarded little creationist brain.
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Sure is. QUOTE; "But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers." How did peacocks manage this, in their imaginary R&D labs, where they conceived the formula for constructing feathers which they transmitted to and rewrote their own DNA? What's a peacock's IQ?
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No dipshit.

But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers as a means of sexual attracting mates, to continue the species.

But that's probably a little too advanced a concept for your little miserable retarded little creationist brain.
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Sure is. QUOTE; "But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers." How did peacocks manage this, in their imaginary R&D labs, where they conceived the formula for constructing feathers which they transmitted to and rewrote their own DNA? What's a peacock's IQ?
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As I said in your other thread, you don't appear to have a grasp of the basic concept of my theory of evolution, I suggest you take a look at my books if you'd like an explanation of how it works. It's pointless to explain the nuances of it when you clearly don't even understand the general idea of it.
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and why the hell did god make human brains if 99% of the population hardly uses it.
Galactic bum.
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Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?
Eyespot markings serve as an anti-predatory device by either scaring off potential predators or confusing them to deflect attacks away from vital body parts.

Many peacocks have survived attacks, because the predator pounced on the peacock's train rather than the peacock itself.
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That may explain why it has the feathers. My question is how could a peacock think of that and rewrite it's it's own dna to create it?
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The peacoks with more fabulous and more believable feathers survived attacks to reproduce while those that didn't either died or were found to be unfit by females.
As the ones with bigger feathers reproduce, their children had similarly sized feathers while others may have grown even longer feathers.
They soon found themselves in a cold war of feathers.
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No dipshit.

But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers as a means of sexual attracting mates, to continue the species.

But that's probably a little too advanced a concept for your little miserable retarded little creationist brain.
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Sure is. QUOTE; "But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers." How did peacocks manage this, in their imaginary R&D labs, where they conceived the formula for constructing feathers which they transmitted to and rewrote their own DNA? What's a peacock's IQ?
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As I said in your other thread, you don't appear to have a grasp of the basic concept of my theory of evolution, I suggest you take a look at my books if you'd like an explanation of how it works. It's pointless to explain the nuances of it when you clearly don't even understand the general idea of it.
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Theoretically mutation results in up graded sophistication? You're right I don't get that at all. From observation improvement of anything requires knowledge/ intelligence/intention/application, not random glitches;

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No dipshit.

But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers as a means of sexual attracting mates, to continue the species.

But that's probably a little too advanced a concept for your little miserable retarded little creationist brain.
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Sure is. QUOTE; "But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers." How did peacocks manage this, in their imaginary R&D labs, where they conceived the formula for constructing feathers which they transmitted to and rewrote their own DNA? What's a peacock's IQ?
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He's right DGN, you do not seem to understand the basic concepts of evolution. Which is why I reccommend you stop debating the topic until you do.
Animals do not rewrite their DNA, every time a cell or animal reproduces there is a chance for random genetic mutations. Most of the time these mutations are harmless, however some of the mutations actually give the animal an advantage.
In this case, there may have been a mutation in one of the pre-peacocks long ago, that had their feather growing genes mutate to accomadate much larger feathers.
These feathers allowed it to remain camoflauged when around certain vegatation/terrain. It also made the bird look bigger than it really was, warding off would-be predators.
These advantages would have led to a higher chance of survival, and thus higher chance of reproducing. While those that idn't have the genes would not have been aas sucessful.
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Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?
No dipshit.

But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers as a means of sexual attracting mates, to continue the species.

But that's probably a little too advanced a concept for your little miserable retarded little creationist brain.
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Sure is. QUOTE; "But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers." How did peacocks manage this, in their imaginary R&D labs, where they conceived the formula for constructing feathers which they transmitted to and rewrote their own DNA? What's a peacock's IQ?
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He's right DGN, you do not seem to understand the basic concepts of evolution. Which is why I reccommend you stop debating the topic until you do.
Animals do not rewrite their DNA, every time a cell or animal reproduces there is a chance for random genetic mutations. Most of the time these mutations are harmless, however some of the mutations actually give the animal an advantage.
In this case, there may have been a mutation in one of the pre-peacocks long ago, that had their feather growing genes mutate to accomadate much larger feathers.
These feathers allowed it to remain camoflauged when around certain vegatation/terrain. It also made the bird look bigger than it really was, warding off would-be predators.
These advantages would have led to a higher chance of survival, and thus higher chance of reproducing. While those that idn't have the genes would not have been aas sucessful.
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Jehovah created peacocks beautiful feathers for the same reason he created flowers and butterflies, to decorate his earth.
QUOTE: "Animals do not rewrite their DNA", that's right, Jehovah alone has that level of scientific expertise as he's demonstrated throughout the entire ecosystem.

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*sigh* The basic concept is that there are mutations that happen, the ones which increase the survivability of an organism are more likely to be passed onto the next generation, the ones that lower survivability are less likely to be propagated and thus end up being less common or eliminated from the gene pool. There is no choosing it any more than you choose which genes you pass onto your children.

I find the video you posted in response interesting, so you think there is an intelligent being who decided that cancer was something we were missing? Who decided the world just wouldn't be complete without malaria? Not that an idea being comforting makes it more likely to be true, but I find it strange that you would choose to believe in such a malicious entity in spite of explanations which have much more evidence.

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When Darwin came up with his theory, scientists thought the cell was a lump of goo.

If the fantastically complex nature of the cell had been discovered before Darwin, his theory would have never seen the light of day.


How can evolution possibly explain self-conciousness?
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*sigh* The basic concept is that there are mutations that happen, the ones which increase the survivability of an organism are more likely to be passed onto the next generation, the ones that lower survivability are less likely to be propagated and thus end up being less common or eliminated from the gene pool. There is no choosing it any more than you choose which genes you pass onto your children.

I find the video you posted in response interesting, so you think there is an intelligent being who decided that cancer was something we were missing? Who decided the world just wouldn't be complete without malaria? Not that an idea being comforting makes it more likely to be true, but I find it strange that you would choose to believe in such a malicious entity in spite of explanations which have much more evidence.
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According to your 'scientific' insight is this the result of the random wreckage of mutating glitches, or intelligence beyond your comprehension?

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*sigh* The basic concept is that there are mutations that happen, the ones which increase the survivability of an organism are more likely to be passed onto the next generation, the ones that lower survivability are less likely to be propagated and thus end up being less common or eliminated from the gene pool. There is no choosing it any more than you choose which genes you pass onto your children.

I find the video you posted in response interesting, so you think there is an intelligent being who decided that cancer was something we were missing? Who decided the world just wouldn't be complete without malaria? Not that an idea being comforting makes it more likely to be true, but I find it strange that you would choose to believe in such a malicious entity in spite of explanations which have much more evidence.
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According to your 'scientific' insight is this the result of the random wreckage of mutating glitches, or intelligence beyond your comprehension?

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Is or isn't this evidence of intelligent design?
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"Survival of the fittest" is often misinterpreted as "Survival of the strongest" (especially from non english speakers who think "fit" means "fitness").

But it comes from "to fit" like "suited". Therefore "Survival of the fittest" means that those will survive who fit best into a changed environment. And in many cases in Earths history that were not the strongest, often it were the weaker and defensive ones who fitted best.

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