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Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 11/09/2012 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the book of Acts, it can be seen that Christ’s Apostles, lived in a communal way. The book states that “Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need” and “Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common” (Acts 2:44-45, Acts 4:32). Holding things in common, giving to anyone who had need, that seems very similar to the radical socialist notion of mutual aid, often expressed in the phrase “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27364929 [link to www.progressivechristianalliance.org] Do you understand the difference between VOLUNTARY sharing and FORCED sharing? What human governing body made the disciples share their wealth? What penalty was there for anyone who didn't share what the group ruled they should? In fact, if America were a Christian nation, it would be LIBERTARIAN. [link to libertarianchristians.com] Last Edited by Keep2theCode on 11/09/2012 05:55 PM Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27399706 United States 11/09/2012 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you understand the difference between VOLUNTARY sharing and FORCED sharing? Quoting: Keep2theCode What human governing body made the disciples share their wealth? What penalty was there for anyone who didn't share what the group ruled they should? In fact, if America were a Christian nation, it would be LIBERTARIAN. [link to libertarianchristians.com] Exactly. |
K.Kool User ID: 27405482 Australia 11/09/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the book of Acts, it can be seen that Christ’s Apostles, lived in a communal way. The book states that “Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need” and “Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common” (Acts 2:44-45, Acts 4:32). Holding things in common, giving to anyone who had need, that seems very similar to the radical socialist notion of mutual aid, often expressed in the phrase “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27364929 [link to www.progressivechristianalliance.org] Do you understand the difference between VOLUNTARY sharing and FORCED sharing? What human governing body made the disciples share their wealth? What penalty was there for anyone who didn't share what the group ruled they should? In fact, if America were a Christian nation, it would be LIBERTARIAN. [link to libertarianchristians.com] Yes, well said! I'm liking Libertarians more and more, even if we don't have them in Oz. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7702124 United States 11/09/2012 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the book of Acts, it can be seen that Christ’s Apostles, lived in a communal way. The book states that “Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need” and “Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common” (Acts 2:44-45, Acts 4:32). Holding things in common, giving to anyone who had need, that seems very similar to the radical socialist notion of mutual aid, often expressed in the phrase “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27364929 [link to www.progressivechristianalliance.org] Carl Marx would be proud. |
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mrclean User ID: 444635 Switzerland 11/09/2012 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Disgusting commy pigs actually trying to compare Jesus to Communism and Obama. DISGUSTING. Jesus wanted NOTHING to do with the PIG Ceasar in his day. Just like he would want nothing to do with the PIG Obama in this day. He always advocated giving for CHARITY, not because CEASAR demanded it. OP is a FRAUD COMMY. Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. Last Edited by mrclean on 11/09/2012 06:43 PM mrclean |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24488287 United States 11/09/2012 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the book of Acts, it can be seen that Christ’s Apostles, lived in a communal way. The book states that “Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need” and “Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common” (Acts 2:44-45, Acts 4:32). Holding things in common, giving to anyone who had need, that seems very similar to the radical socialist notion of mutual aid, often expressed in the phrase “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27364929 [link to www.progressivechristianalliance.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27067766 United States 11/09/2012 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the kind of HORSESHIT we're going to be seeing more and more in the future now that Obama has been 'crowned'. Quoting: mrclean Disgusting commy pigs actually trying to compare Jesus to Communism and Obama. DISGUSTING. Jesus wanted NOTHING to do with the PIG Ceasar in his day. Just like he would want nothing to do with the PIG Obama in this day. He always advocated giving for CHARITY, not because CEASAR demanded it. OP is a FRAUD COMMY. Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. Jesus despised the rich and said they were all going to hell.... hard to call him a capitalist... |
Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 11/09/2012 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus despised the rich and said they were all going to hell.... hard to call him a capitalist... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27067766 Yet the Bible calls it a blessing from God to keep the fruit of your own labor, to have your own land, and to prosper. Abraham was very wealthy, as were many others in the OT including and especially King Solomon. In the NT, there are instructions for the rich to be generous and remember the poor. Where it crosses the line is when wealth is hoarded while people starve, or when one does not care for their own family, or when it is used to control or bribe or fund evil. Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16) |
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K.Kool User ID: 27405482 Australia 11/09/2012 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the kind of HORSESHIT we're going to be seeing more and more in the future now that Obama has been 'crowned'. Quoting: mrclean Disgusting commy pigs actually trying to compare Jesus to Communism and Obama. DISGUSTING. Jesus wanted NOTHING to do with the PIG Ceasar in his day. Just like he would want nothing to do with the PIG Obama in this day. He always advocated giving for CHARITY, not because CEASAR demanded it. OP is a FRAUD COMMY. Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. Jesus despised the rich and said they were all going to hell.... hard to call him a capitalist... Sigh, ignorance isn't bliss when it spreads as much as this bs. He said it is hard for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God, and from my observations, this is true. [link to www.biblegateway.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27067766 United States 11/09/2012 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus despised the rich and said they were all going to hell.... hard to call him a capitalist... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27067766 Yet the Bible calls it a blessing from God to keep the fruit of your own labor, to have your own land, and to prosper. Abraham was very wealthy, as were many others in the OT including and especially King Solomon. In the NT, there are instructions for the rich to be generous and remember the poor. Where it crosses the line is when wealth is hoarded while people starve, or when one does not care for their own family, or when it is used to control or bribe or fund evil. No, Jesus was not in the Old Testament, it seems you are confused. Jesus is the New Testament, and nowhere in there are the rich praised. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27067766 United States 11/09/2012 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the kind of HORSESHIT we're going to be seeing more and more in the future now that Obama has been 'crowned'. Quoting: mrclean Disgusting commy pigs actually trying to compare Jesus to Communism and Obama. DISGUSTING. Jesus wanted NOTHING to do with the PIG Ceasar in his day. Just like he would want nothing to do with the PIG Obama in this day. He always advocated giving for CHARITY, not because CEASAR demanded it. OP is a FRAUD COMMY. Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. Jesus despised the rich and said they were all going to hell.... hard to call him a capitalist... Sigh, ignorance isn't bliss when it spreads as much as this bs. He said it is hard for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God, and from my observations, this is true. [link to www.biblegateway.com] Ignorance my ass. According to Christian theology, you either go to heaven or hell. If Jesus says you aren't going to heaven, what does that leave open to you? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27364929 United States 11/09/2012 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the kind of HORSESHIT we're going to be seeing more and more in the future now that Obama has been 'crowned'. Quoting: mrclean Disgusting commy pigs actually trying to compare Jesus to Communism and Obama. DISGUSTING. Jesus wanted NOTHING to do with the PIG Ceasar in his day. Just like he would want nothing to do with the PIG Obama in this day. He always advocated giving for CHARITY, not because CEASAR demanded it. OP is a FRAUD COMMY. Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. Jesus despised the rich and said they were all going to hell.... hard to call him a capitalist... Sigh, ignorance isn't bliss when it spreads as much as this bs. He said it is hard for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God, and from my observations, this is true. [link to www.biblegateway.com] As hard as a camel going through the eye of a needle. In other words, IMPOSSIBLE. I don't know how the preachers of Prosperity Gospel can get around this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27067766 United States 11/09/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the kind of HORSESHIT we're going to be seeing more and more in the future now that Obama has been 'crowned'. Quoting: mrclean Disgusting commy pigs actually trying to compare Jesus to Communism and Obama. DISGUSTING. Jesus wanted NOTHING to do with the PIG Ceasar in his day. Just like he would want nothing to do with the PIG Obama in this day. He always advocated giving for CHARITY, not because CEASAR demanded it. OP is a FRAUD COMMY. Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. Jesus despised the rich and said they were all going to hell.... hard to call him a capitalist... Sigh, ignorance isn't bliss when it spreads as much as this bs. He said it is hard for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God, and from my observations, this is true. [link to www.biblegateway.com] As hard as a camel going through the eye of a needle. In other words, IMPOSSIBLE. I don't know how the preachers of Prosperity Gospel can get around this. they can't, they just make things up to appease their own world views. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24488287 United States 11/09/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the kind of HORSESHIT we're going to be seeing more and more in the future now that Obama has been 'crowned'. Quoting: mrclean Disgusting commy pigs actually trying to compare Jesus to Communism and Obama. DISGUSTING. Jesus wanted NOTHING to do with the PIG Ceasar in his day. Just like he would want nothing to do with the PIG Obama in this day. He always advocated giving for CHARITY, not because CEASAR demanded it. OP is a FRAUD COMMY. Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. Jesus despised the rich and said they were all going to hell.... hard to call him a capitalist... Why do non-believer mention the bible, whenever they're justifying theft? Sigh, ignorance isn't bliss when it spreads as much as this bs. He said it is hard for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God, and from my observations, this is true. [link to www.biblegateway.com] Ignorance my ass. According to Christian theology, you either go to heaven or hell. If Jesus says you aren't going to heaven, what does that leave open to you? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24488287 United States 11/09/2012 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the book of Acts, it can be seen that Christ’s Apostles, lived in a communal way. The book states that “Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need” and “Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common” (Acts 2:44-45, Acts 4:32). Holding things in common, giving to anyone who had need, that seems very similar to the radical socialist notion of mutual aid, often expressed in the phrase “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27364929 [link to www.progressivechristianalliance.org] |
Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 United States 11/09/2012 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, Jesus was not in the Old Testament, it seems you are confused. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27067766 Jesus is the New Testament, and nowhere in there are the rich praised. I am not confused. I gave examples from both testaments to show that God is not against wealth or prosperity. The only time the rich are rebuked is when they misuse their money or fail to help the poor. Otherwise, no one would ever be able to help the poor. Remember, if you have more than you need, you are "the rich". As hard as a camel going through the eye of a needle. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27364929 In other words, IMPOSSIBLE. I don't know how the preachers of Prosperity Gospel can get around this. Jesus was using a figure of speech. Or are you trying to argue that God will check your bank account before deciding whether you can come to heaven? What kind of gospel is that? Anyway, I'm no prosperity gospel preacher, but it seems you're a poverty gospel preacher. Neither is the gospel, because it isn't about money at all. Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16) |
K.Kool User ID: 27405482 Australia 11/09/2012 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the kind of HORSESHIT we're going to be seeing more and more in the future now that Obama has been 'crowned'. Quoting: mrclean Disgusting commy pigs actually trying to compare Jesus to Communism and Obama. DISGUSTING. Jesus wanted NOTHING to do with the PIG Ceasar in his day. Just like he would want nothing to do with the PIG Obama in this day. He always advocated giving for CHARITY, not because CEASAR demanded it. OP is a FRAUD COMMY. Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. Jesus despised the rich and said they were all going to hell.... hard to call him a capitalist... Sigh, ignorance isn't bliss when it spreads as much as this bs. He said it is hard for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God, and from my observations, this is true. [link to www.biblegateway.com] As hard as a camel going through the eye of a needle. In other words, IMPOSSIBLE. I don't know how the preachers of Prosperity Gospel can get around this. He was stressing the difficulty, it is clear form the whole of his message that the Kingdom is open to anyone who loves him, rich people included. |
DOT 2 DOT User ID: 24338672 United States 11/09/2012 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself. Isaiah 32:8 But the liberal devises liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand. Job 22:7-9 You have not given water to the weary to drink, and you have withheld bread from the hungry... Deuteronomy 15:7-10 If there be among you a poor man of one of your brothers within any of your gates in your land which the LORD your God gives you... Psalm 112:9 He has dispersed, he has given to the poor; his righteousness endures for ever; his horn shall be exalted with honor. Luke 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. Acts 11:29 Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief to the brothers which dwelled in Judaea: Galatians 2:10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. John Stuart Mill ************ It's much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand. Mike Royko |
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K.Kool User ID: 27405482 Australia 11/09/2012 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Quoting: DOT 2 DOT The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself. Isaiah 32:8 But the liberal devises liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand. Job 22:7-9 You have not given water to the weary to drink, and you have withheld bread from the hungry... Deuteronomy 15:7-10 If there be among you a poor man of one of your brothers within any of your gates in your land which the LORD your God gives you... Psalm 112:9 He has dispersed, he has given to the poor; his righteousness endures for ever; his horn shall be exalted with honor. Luke 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. Acts 11:29 Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief to the brothers which dwelled in Judaea: Galatians 2:10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. Yes, looking after the poor is a good act, it's called charity (love). |