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A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION

 
*Evan*
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A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION
POLL: SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT PROTECT US FROM OURSELVES?
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Very simple yes or no question.

If you want to elaborate or discuss, feel free.
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No. Ever.

It is because the government imposes large corporation policies upon a start up contractor business that I am now in the position I'm in.

Like I said in a post last night, in my town you need a 36.00 minor electrical permit to change a .79 cent light switch. You need 1,000,000 dollar liability to change a kitchen sink and it must involve two separate trades.

My government has crushed the hopes and dreams of people who want to be something they have trained all their lives for... And yet can't get off the ground with all the red tape.

Last Edited by Redpaw360 on 11/09/2012 05:17 PM
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.
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No. Ever.

It is because the government imposes large corporation policies upon a start up contractor business that I am now in the position I'm in.

Like I said in a post last night, in my town you need a 36.00 minor electrical permit to change a .79 cent light switch. You need 1,000,000 dollar liability to change a kitchen sink and it must involve two separate trades.

My government has crushed the hopes and dreams of people who want to be something they have trained all their lives for... And yet can't get off the ground with all the red tape.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


I completely agree.

Well said.
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So far "yes" has 0 votes..
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I voted for no, but the screen kept changing it to yes.
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I voted for no, but the screen kept changing it to yes.
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chuckle
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I have tons of stories, all based on my company, here's a fact:

In order to get a contractors license, you must pass a 4 hour test, using government approved books, sold by government authorized stores.
150.00 for the books

But wait, there's more !!!,

In order to take the test, you have to register and book a time slot for the room, 185.00

Before you can enter the room, you must strip down to basic tshirt and pants, placing all your belongings in a safe. You are then frisked and then you are handed back your drivers license that THEY remove from your wallet. Then the locked safe is closed, and you enter the room.

You enter the room, with your drivers license and the key to the safe, but you can't move for 20 seconds until the cameras (3) are started.

You then push the button at the terminal which starts the timer for your 4 hours.....

The entire test consists of how to pay your fair share of taxes to the state, there are no questions about how to prep a wall for paint, how to tile a floor or the steps involved, no questions about standard height of a kitchen base cabinet.

It's all about taxes to the state and how to charge more to your clients on lead based paint removal ( they push this ) in houses before 1976.

True story.

Last Edited by Redpaw360 on 11/09/2012 06:10 PM
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.
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I have tons of stories, all based on my company, here's a fact:

In order to get a contractors license, you must pass a 4 hour test, using government approved books, sold by government authorized stores.
150.00 for the books

But wait, there's more !!!,

In order to take the test, you have to register and book a time slot for the room, 185.00

Before you can enter the room, you must strip down to basic tshirt and pants, placing all your belongings in a safe. You are then frisked and then you are handed back your drivers license that THEY remove from your wallet. Then the locked safe is closed, and you enter the room.

You enter the room, with your drivers license and the key to the safe, but you can't move for 20 seconds until the cameras (3) are started.

You then push the button at the terminal which starts the timer for your 4 hours.....

The entire test consists of how to pay your fair share of taxes to the state, there are no questions about how to prep a wall for paint, how to tile a floor or the steps involved, no questions about standard height of a kitchen base cabinet.

It's all about taxes to the state and how to charge more to your clients on lead based paint removal ( they push this ) in houses before 1976.

True story.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


That is the thing about business that liberals don't and cant understand also.

Regulations, as much as they don't want to believe it, hurt businesses.

I have had a similar experience when I got my insurance license. Same state controlled B.S

Last Edited by *Evan on 11/09/2012 06:12 PM
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I have tons of stories, all based on my company, here's a fact:

In order to get a contractors license, you must pass a 4 hour test, using government approved books, sold by government authorized stores.
150.00 for the books

But wait, there's more !!!,

In order to take the test, you have to register and book a time slot for the room, 185.00

Before you can enter the room, you must strip down to basic tshirt and pants, placing all your belongings in a safe. You are then frisked and then you are handed back your drivers license that THEY remove from your wallet. Then the locked safe is closed, and you enter the room.

You enter the room, with your drivers license and the key to the safe, but you can't move for 20 seconds until the cameras (3) are started.

You then push the button at the terminal which starts the timer for your 4 hours.....

The entire test consists of how to pay your fair share of taxes to the state, there are no questions about how to prep a wall for paint, how to tile a floor or the steps involved, no questions about standard height of a kitchen base cabinet.

It's all about taxes to the state and how to charge more to your clients on lead based paint removal ( they push this ) in houses before 1976.

True story.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


The only thing the "government" is interested in protecting is the power of the "government" and the gravy train they're all riding.
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I have tons of stories, all based on my company, here's a fact:

In order to get a contractors license, you must pass a 4 hour test, using government approved books, sold by government authorized stores.
150.00 for the books

But wait, there's more !!!,

In order to take the test, you have to register and book a time slot for the room, 185.00

Before you can enter the room, you must strip down to basic tshirt and pants, placing all your belongings in a safe. You are then frisked and then you are handed back your drivers license that THEY remove from your wallet. Then the locked safe is closed, and you enter the room.

You enter the room, with your drivers license and the key to the safe, but you can't move for 20 seconds until the cameras (3) are started.

You then push the button at the terminal which starts the timer for your 4 hours.....

The entire test consists of how to pay your fair share of taxes to the state, there are no questions about how to prep a wall for paint, how to tile a floor or the steps involved, no questions about standard height of a kitchen base cabinet.

It's all about taxes to the state and how to charge more to your clients on lead based paint removal ( they push this ) in houses before 1976.

True story.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


The only thing the "government" is interested in protecting is the power of the "government" and the gravy train they're all riding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27375760


ohyeah
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Top it all off, by becoming a licensed contractor, you agree to disclose all your business transactions and banking records including clients banking information at the end of the year.

In full detail.

....and now they passed a retroactive law recently that states any tool that you have used in your business, even if owned before the business was incorporated, is to be inventoried for tax purposes.

My 22 ounce Estwing hammer is older than my college aged girls, and they want to tax me on an item I have owned longer than this agency has been in business.

You must disclose all tools used by your company or they will not renew your license, for tax purposes of course.
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.
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ohyeah
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Everyone uses that smilie wrong. It's kind of sarcastic. It says "Uh-huh. Sure. Yeah, right".
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11/09/2012 06:22 PM
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Incredibly, 3 people voted "yes".

damned

They must be Obarky voters, I guess.
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No. Ever.

It is because the government imposes large corporation policies upon a start up contractor business that I am now in the position I'm in.

Like I said in a post last night, in my town you need a 36.00 minor electrical permit to change a .79 cent light switch. You need 1,000,000 dollar liability to change a kitchen sink and it must involve two separate trades.

My government has crushed the hopes and dreams of people who want to be something they have trained all their lives for... And yet can't get off the ground with all the red tape.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


^^THIS^^ You can't even hardly build your own house because of all the restrictions and bull shit they want you to do. Why the hell should I have to be force to hire someone to do a job that I can do myself but can't because I'm not a licensed contractor.
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ohyeah
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Everyone uses that smilie wrong. It's kind of sarcastic. It says "Uh-huh. Sure. Yeah, right".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333


I disagree. I think it's more of an OH YEAH!!!

ohyeah
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ohyeah
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Everyone uses that smilie wrong. It's kind of sarcastic. It says "Uh-huh. Sure. Yeah, right".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333


Now I need the government telling me how to use my smilies???




























lol/jk
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No. Ever.

It is because the government imposes large corporation policies upon a start up contractor business that I am now in the position I'm in.

Like I said in a post last night, in my town you need a 36.00 minor electrical permit to change a .79 cent light switch. You need 1,000,000 dollar liability to change a kitchen sink and it must involve two separate trades.

My government has crushed the hopes and dreams of people who want to be something they have trained all their lives for... And yet can't get off the ground with all the red tape.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


^^THIS^^ You can't even hardly build your own house because of all the restrictions and bull shit they want you to do. Why the hell should I have to be force to hire someone to do a job that I can do myself but can't because I'm not a licensed contractor.
 Quoting: patdeez84


I like that smilie

cheers
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No. Ever.

It is because the government imposes large corporation policies upon a start up contractor business that I am now in the position I'm in.

Like I said in a post last night, in my town you need a 36.00 minor electrical permit to change a .79 cent light switch. You need 1,000,000 dollar liability to change a kitchen sink and it must involve two separate trades.

My government has crushed the hopes and dreams of people who want to be something they have trained all their lives for... And yet can't get off the ground with all the red tape.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


^^THIS^^ You can't even hardly build your own house because of all the restrictions and bull shit they want you to do. Why the hell should I have to be force to hire someone to do a job that I can do myself but can't because I'm not a licensed contractor.
 Quoting: patdeez84


I addressed this question recently at a seminar for small business. The answer was an eye opener.

The answer was: you are not the owner of your house, you are considered the current caretaker. You are responsible to leave the home upon its sale in code condition perfection or the state will come after your estate and file liens to stop the sale or recover the costs for corrections.

That floored me. The state does not have the opinion that you have property rights or ability to make correct decisions regarding your home.

Last Edited by Redpaw360 on 11/09/2012 06:33 PM
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.
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No.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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I think I was 21 years old (1996) when I got a rude awakening from libtard professor about nutrition paper I did. This bitch blasted me in front of the classroom over how wrong I was. Turns out I was right years later. Go figure. That's the problem with the federal gov't relying on these kinds to shove their agendas on us even though we KNOW they are wrong.

Hard to believe that they still use same outdated nutrition information in federal guideline over what we should eat... Nothing changed despite the fact there are tons of papers showing them wrong!
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I think I was 21 years old (1996) when I got a rude awakening from libtard professor about nutrition paper I did. This bitch blasted me in front of the classroom over how wrong I was. Turns out I was right years later. Go figure. That's the problem with the federal gov't relying on these kinds to shove their agendas on us even though we KNOW they are wrong.

Hard to believe that they still use same outdated nutrition information in federal guideline over what we should eat... Nothing changed despite the fact there are tons of papers showing them wrong!
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Hey, call Gloria Allred, she hates libtard professors who become future lawyers..... Er, um, wait, that's Gloria.

Dammit.
Oregon Constitution Article I, Section 27

The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.
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I think I was 21 years old (1996) when I got a rude awakening from libtard professor about nutrition paper I did. This bitch blasted me in front of the classroom over how wrong I was. Turns out I was right years later. Go figure. That's the problem with the federal gov't relying on these kinds to shove their agendas on us even though we KNOW they are wrong.

Hard to believe that they still use same outdated nutrition information in federal guideline over what we should eat... Nothing changed despite the fact there are tons of papers showing them wrong!
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Hey, call Gloria Allred, she hates libtard professors who become future lawyers..... Er, um, wait, that's Gloria.

Dammit.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


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ohyeah
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Everyone uses that smilie wrong. It's kind of sarcastic. It says "Uh-huh. Sure. Yeah, right".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24002333


Now I need the government telling me how to use my smilies???

There will be $500 billion included in the 2013 budget for that.























lol/jk
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I think I was 21 years old (1996) when I got a rude awakening from libtard professor about nutrition paper I did. This bitch blasted me in front of the classroom over how wrong I was. Turns out I was right years later. Go figure. That's the problem with the federal gov't relying on these kinds to shove their agendas on us even though we KNOW they are wrong.

Hard to believe that they still use same outdated nutrition information in federal guideline over what we should eat... Nothing changed despite the fact there are tons of papers showing them wrong!
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Hey, call Gloria Allred, she hates libtard professors who become future lawyers..... Er, um, wait, that's Gloria.

Dammit.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


lmao
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Top it all off, by becoming a licensed contractor, you agree to disclose all your business transactions and banking records including clients banking information at the end of the year.

In full detail.

....and now they passed a retroactive law recently that states any tool that you have used in your business, even if owned before the business was incorporated, is to be inventoried for tax purposes.

My 22 ounce Estwing hammer is older than my college aged girls, and they want to tax me on an item I have owned longer than this agency has been in business.

You must disclose all tools used by your company or they will not renew your license, for tax purposes of course.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


What state is this?

Sounds like New Jersey.
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Top it all off, by becoming a licensed contractor, you agree to disclose all your business transactions and banking records including clients banking information at the end of the year.

In full detail.

....and now they passed a retroactive law recently that states any tool that you have used in your business, even if owned before the business was incorporated, is to be inventoried for tax purposes.

My 22 ounce Estwing hammer is older than my college aged girls, and they want to tax me on an item I have owned longer than this agency has been in business.

You must disclose all tools used by your company or they will not renew your license, for tax purposes of course.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


What state is this?

Sounds like New Jersey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27375760


I remember John Stossel talking about how he had to jump through loops to build his new house somewhere up there.
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Top it all off, by becoming a licensed contractor, you agree to disclose all your business transactions and banking records including clients banking information at the end of the year.

In full detail.

....and now they passed a retroactive law recently that states any tool that you have used in your business, even if owned before the business was incorporated, is to be inventoried for tax purposes.

My 22 ounce Estwing hammer is older than my college aged girls, and they want to tax me on an item I have owned longer than this agency has been in business.

You must disclose all tools used by your company or they will not renew your license, for tax purposes of course.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


What state is this?

Sounds like New Jersey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27375760


It's a western state. Not a Red State. Not a right to work state, Not a logging state, not a gun friendly state, not a job creating state, not a legal marijuana state, not a state touching Mexico, not a state touching Canada...

Just an out of touch state.
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