Florida to Obama on Obamacare : STICK IT UP YOUR ASS!

Missouri voted no on health exchanges that would be used to implement Obamacare. Which means the governor cannot act on his own without another popular vote.

Thats how we roll.

GREAT SCOTT! It's Rick Scott. My hero!

ROTFL

It amazes me this long after obamacares been released there are still fucking idiots who think its "free healthcare"...

Ill be voting for him. I like a governor who tells the feds to shove it.

So who has a better idea? The status quo isn't working. Can we come up with something better?
As a small business owner (currently 41 employees) I can tell you that the current system is unsustainable and is killing our economy. As soon as I was able to afford to I paid for 100% of my employees insurance. I felt it was the right thing to do. I got no accolades for it, most employees just took it for granted. Until I couldn't afford the astrofuckingnomical premiums any longer and had to cut it to 80%/20%. Man did I hear about it then. Then I had to cut to 70/30. Oh boy. Currently it is 50/50 and at that my insurance premiums are teetering on exceeding my gross salary. That is all fucking money that is going straight to the insurance company instead of being put back into the real world economy. So the writing is on the wall. Eventually I'm not going to be able to afford insurance for my employees at all. So theres 41 good hardworking people and there spouses and children with no insurance at fucking all. Should they be denied medical care? Hell man I'm going to keep on keepin on on our collective behalf because I believe in myself, my employees, and yea my country. So again, maybe some of you folks that are smarter than me can come up with a viable alternative? But for now the only thing I have even seen thrown out there is Obamacare. If my insurance premiums start going down I'll let you know. If not, I'll let you know that too. But honestly from my point of view what we have been doing is not working. Fuck, I wish I would have bought into the insurance industry instead of sheetmetal fab.

Everyone directs all their anger at those who KNOW THAT THE PROBLEM IS THE OUTRAGEOUS PROFITS DEMANDED BY THE GREEDY INSURANCE COMPAINIES AND IS TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION. They should direct their anger at the insurance companies who outpriced all the employers, but no, blame the black guy,you cannot educate the unwilling.

Fixed it for ya Mary

if he's saying he's going to violate federal law, i hope he gets thrown in jail

Half your pay check will go to health care. You'll be paying for someone 3 states over to stupid to know eating 10 big Mac's in a day is not good for you. Need Heart surgery? or any major surgery?? You'll be lucky to see a Dr in 3-4 Months.

Pull your head out of your ass!

What mandate? You mean the one that says we're keeping you because we are a bunch of sheep? Or his mandate to cut spending?

More people likely voted against him than for him (don't forget third party votes). Even if we JUST look at his little lead, it was pretty close. Hardly a mandate.

"Thus, the particular phraseology of the constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written constitutions, that a law repugnant to the constitution is void; and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument. ....Marbury v. Madison (1803)

I think they sent Lincoln a similar message in 1861.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I really don't wish to belabor a point here, but can you read? The only "swing state" that is "within 2%" is Ohio, where the provisional votes have not been counted yet. North Carolina, which is the only "swing" state that went for Romney, is 2.1%. Secondly, if "40-60%" or higher is the definition of mandate, then only Washington, Harding, FDR, Johnson, and Nixon ever had a mandate. 2.6% in the popular vote is not a "squeaker," although it is a close election. Elections like 1960, 1968, and 2000 are squeakers, although many will argue about 2000.

Obama does not have an unlimited mandate because the Republicans still control the House, although the Democrats actually won the total popular vote for the House nationwide. I agree that this fact demands compromise. Maybe the Republicans should think about what compromise means, which is usually not getting everything you want, especially when they only control one house of Congress, the Democrats increased their lead in the Senate, and the Republicans do not control the Executive branch.

How would he be violating the Federal law? There is something called the 10th amendment for one. Two, the supremacy clause won't be enough to force any state to go ahead with such a horrific idea. States would be injured parties and after a while.. if the Federal Government can't leave its hands off.. the union would be void.

Scott WILL have to raise taxes JUST to pay the lawyers to keep him out of SuperMax prison. WHAT a fucking jerkwad.



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Why do you think so many people on the left wanted a single payer system, or at least a "public option"? Both were demonized by the insurance companies, the Republicans, and a few Democrats.

You're still going to be paying the same rate under Obamalamadingdong care. I don't even get your argument. The only difference is that if you decide to drop paying medical all together, you'll pay a fine and your employees will be forced at gun point to buy insurance.

You honestly think if you don't provide medical then somehow your employees are being denied medical care? They can purchase blue cross anytime they want.

Ridiculous argument from you. You sure you own a company? Honesty you don't seem that smart...

hey if we pay for our own tv,cable and phones...all that ....WHY NOT?!....we are free too buy it from whoever we want!We chose to pay for it....if they wanna offer a favor to the people ....pay for our gas....fill our tanks........even more help would be our utilities.

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Using election results? They don't mean a hill of benas when they can be easily fixed, especially in the age of electronic voting machines that can record a vote for a candidate that they did not vote for. I saw a cell video of this happening to someone voting for Obama and it recording a vote for Romney, but I actually know some one in Ohio that was trying to vote Romney and the machine kept coming up Obama (it can go both ways so election fraud is not the debate here).

The issue at hand is certainly the health care law, and at this point, the only way out is the states to stand up to the federal government. And while Wonkish or whatever his name is wants to try the to say it was constitutional, the 10th Admendmant say otherwise.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people

The power to force commerence or even to provide health care are not provided to the US government. It is a state problem, which why I always felt Romney care was a good idea, and Obamacare not a good one. The fact is, the federal government is very limited in it's power, and forcing commerce is not one of them. And while it was called a tax, the legality of such a tax could and should be easily questioned, as the right to taxation is also limited.

The bottom line is our individual states, must stand up for the consituition and stand up to an overbearing Federal Government. The reason we won't see that though is the Feds oontrol money filtered to the states, and they will bow to that money. That's how we wind up with seatbelt laws, Governor Christie sucking Obama's dick, and Obamacare. If our state governments will not take control, it is our duty to remove them, and more appropriately, the federal government through eleciton (which won't work because of fraud) or force (why we have arms protected by the 2nd Amendmant).

In a final word, the idea of the SCOTUS was a great idea in the beginning, it is a failure now. Judges have been allowed to create laws from the bench (Roe v Wade) for far to long, and adhere to partisan politics that was not the original design. Our system is broken, and arguing for it in any manor is a dishonoring your country. I don't have all the answers, and I don't know if it is fixable. I do now we are in bad shape, and we need leaders to step up and challenge the status quo. If Rick Scott is it, then GO RICK!.

That black man pushed through a policy to increase their proifts, so I yeah, I blame THAT BLACK MAN. Well technically 1/2 black, if that but what ever. You are the one claiming the race issue.



Hey, I elect to pay healthcare through the one provided by my employer as a benifit. I should have the right to abstain and retain the liabilty myself, and in truth, they should have the right to abstain to provide it. In a free market, the smart ones worked for the ones who offered.

The poor, theirs were already covered, though not through an insurance company collecting unnecessary premiums. Before the law, and likely after, people under a certain income level scould get their costs waived, so....what was this bill really about. Oh yeah, money for large corporations and in a lesser extent, violations of personal freedoms. And if it was really so great, why aren't Obummer and his cronies in congress on the same lousy plan.

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This is awesome news!!! I won't have to fire my staff and reduce it to the minimum to avoid the penalty.

trinity I live in vancouver 6 months ago I blacked out while I was cutting my lawn call 911 they send an ambulance - zero dollars -1 hour wait and visit with doctor at emergency - zero dollars - an EKG 6 days later - zero dollars - ct scan 3 days after that - zero dollars - diagnosis: bad day - cost zero dollars canadian healcare = priceless . not sure who has been filling your head with shit but you dont seem to know about canadian healthcare . yes sometimes people have to wait longer or alot longer than I did but they always have the option to pay cash elsewhere like across the line.

Who won Florida and Ohio?

Have all the votes been counted yet?

Yeah, that is why there are some canadians that carry inusrance in the U.S. They do it when they need immediate procedures that would kill them if they had to wait in Canada. The funny thing is, I know this because My wife did a report on it long before Obamacare was an issue for nursing school. We laughed about it. We never thought that kind of system would be in place here. The jokes on us I guess.

And I am sure for basic stuff it is great, but when you are 80 years old and want a transplant....Whoa! It's a whole new ball game.

If you only have 41 employees you shouldn't be offering insurance. Also, if you cannot pay insurance for those 41 you most likely are not doing well and should cut your losses short buddy. Successful business = Gross profits > Expenses. DUH

If he wants to call it after himself he should call it Soetorocare.

Yeah. It had to be a Scott :D

Barry Soetorocare.

Brought in as a tax.