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We do understand it extremely well. Communist party is illegal here, they are criminals. What can you expect from ideology that invented genocide and is based on massive killings? There is no need to tell what are the ones following this ideology.
 Quoting: EMPerror


well, i'm sorry a bunch of douchebags invaded your country
and turned you into slaves. but that's not the fault of
Socialism, it's the fault of douchebags and assholes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27051494


On the contrary, it is pure Communism, the one Karl Marx was writing about.
There are must be no rich people, everyone must be equal, so be poor slaves and "be grateful for it, or die".
 Quoting: EMPerror


Before Carl Marx was "Clinton Roosevelts" claim to fame....look that shit up........1849 circa If memory serves me [link to books.google.com]
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We do understand it extremely well. Communist party is illegal here, they are criminals. What can you expect from ideology that invented genocide and is based on massive killings? There is no need to tell what are the ones following this ideology.
 Quoting: EMPerror


well, i'm sorry a bunch of douchebags invaded your country
and turned you into slaves. but that's not the fault of
Socialism, it's the fault of douchebags and assholes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27051494


On the contrary, it is pure Communism, the one Karl Marx was writing about.
There must be no rich people, everyone must be equal, so be poor slaves and "be grateful for it, or die".
 Quoting: EMPerror


Warren Buffett?? He is a HERO to the left and deeply implicated in the Franklin Scandal

go figure.

the MSM and any and all collectivists would NEVER hold that POS accountable for anything
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
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you aren't going to change anyone's mind parroting against the left. sure you will likely brainwash your children, but not grown men with different perspectives
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"Some call it Marxism... I call it Judaism"
-The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935
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all of the countries in Europe are Socialist. and, just
like some people can drive a car very well, so, some
governments can't do Socialism very well. but there
are actually some of the Socialist countries in Europe
that are doing quite well.
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Quit working for the love of money.

Quit working for the greed in your heart.

Work on your passion, your desire.

As soon as you do that. You wont want for cash and you wont care that someone else is doing "less". You will pity them for wasting away their life.
 Quoting: Soap


Spoken like a true fuckwit socialist.... dare to dream on your own dime. Get a job hippie! I want to feed those I'm actually responsible for.
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I'm wasn't in school to get an A, I don't care to be honoured more than anyone else. I'm there to learn and my success is really determined by ME alone. I know it's a metaphor, but I'd be more pissed about the tax money spent on, oh you know, military, bailouts, homeland security, black budgets..i don't adhere to any 'ism' but the have-nots don't take that much of the fuckin' pie, though it's convenient to form a negative blanket-opinion of them all, isn't it? The irony of this thread is that this is exactly what your potus wants: contempt between the classes. it's so sad.
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We do understand it extremely well. Communist party is illegal here, they are criminals. What can you expect from ideology that invented genocide and is based on massive killings? There is no need to tell what are the ones following this ideology.
 Quoting: EMPerror


well, i'm sorry a bunch of douchebags invaded your country
and turned you into slaves. but that's not the fault of
Socialism, it's the fault of douchebags and assholes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27051494


On the contrary, it is pure Communism, the one Karl Marx was writing about.
There must be no rich people, everyone must be equal, so be poor slaves and "be grateful for it, or die".
 Quoting: EMPerror


:marxism:
 Quoting: Debauchery


then, why the white trash lean to the right and aren't marxists? lol
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Quit working for the love of money.

Quit working for the greed in your heart.

Work on your passion, your desire.

As soon as you do that. You wont want for cash and you wont care that someone else is doing "less". You will pity them for wasting away their life.
 Quoting: Soap


I work to fed and provide for my family. I have no greed, it does not burn in my soul. My passion and desire is that my family shall not want or need.

I pity no one that refuses to earn their way. Excuses will never replace sweat. Honor before death.
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Just think how hard he worked to start GLP.
Do you think he's pleased he has to share with the flunkies??
I know how he feels = I did a start up.
It takes your whole life away.
It pisses me off that flunkies don't do anything to get a free ride.
I worked my butt off like Trin did.
I'm just the average person.

You don't get it.
Trin is brilliant.
He chose to work his but off to give you the honor of dumping your opinion on his threads.

Really, who is boggled about open minds here???
 Quoting: AlaskaLove


I have started 4 businesses, all of which are still running, 1 of which I still run after selling the others. My exp is that most people on here seem to be successful and intelligent. I know Trin is.

Where I find the disconnect is that people are not realizing that this is a Direct result of past actions. The MEEK are inheriting the earth, they are feed up with the promises of "Trickle down" economics that have consistently proven to be a lie.

Trin didn't start this site, as Obama said. In this case its literal too as he bought it from someone else.

This site rocks, Trinity should be honored and respected for creating this place, the irony is that we are all faced with Duality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17868616


It doesn't matter if Trin started it or bought it.

It's the kid who studied to get the A in the class who losses now... He losses because the kids who failed get the freebie A thanks to the teacher. They don't have to work as hard as those who, like Trin et al, work their butt off getting the A's.

It pisses me off.

I should hope it pisses you off if you, like Trin et al, who studied your/their butts off only to give it all to the flunkies...ARGH!
 Quoting: AlaskaLove


NO!

The analogy is partisan. Incorrect. If the teacher gave the kids the A, it would be the equivalent of taking ALL of the money of the rich, and giving it to the poor. PERIOD.

This isn't what's happening now is it?..... YET!

It's about giving the kids with no opportunities a tutor, because the parents of the kid are alcoholics and worthless.

It's about OPPORTUNITY. And the kids getting the d's are NOT getting that.

YOU, on the other hand, ARE getting it. Whether you cop to it or not. You got it, at one point in your life or more, you got it. And if you didn't.......well good for you. You're the minority. Because I've grown up with rich kids, and trust me, I know. Don't try to bullshit me. I know how it works.

And the kid who succeeds and pulls ahead when his parents are alcoholics is the minority too.

You people don't even see that you are digging your own graves here. If you give the kid the tutoring, he's gonna move on and become a successful kid who contributes to the whole. You keep bitching about how "he's getting the FUCKIN A" and you're gonna bury yourselves. It's already happening. You people can't see the forest through the trees!

EVERYBODY SEES THE ISSUE FROM THEIR OWN SIDE!

I've had the luxury, (in hindsite), of being both very rich, and very poor in my life, thank god I'm now right in between. But I can tell you, that people who are on either side will grab a hold on ANY story, parable, you name it, to justify their positions on a subject, in order to justify their position.

And they'll BITCH about the fact that they're MAD AS HELL that that kid is getting the A!!!!!

But the kid isn't getting the A guys, he's getting a tutor. And YOU are gonna be the benefactor of that in the future because YOU are gonna end up paying less taxes out of your paycheck because of that fucking tutor.

You see the problem here? The teacher isn't giving them an A, he isn't giving them your house. He's giving them a fucking tutor. And it's gonna help YOU in the long run!

FUCK you guys are just so self righteous it drives me insane.

And Trinity, feel free to ban me, as you've done in the past for my posts. I don't give a fuck.

You guys see that news heading on NEWSWEEK magazine? If you're Old, and White, you're OUT? Well there's a reason for that.

It's because of shit like this post. And the comedian guy who's telling kids they need to give all their Halloween candy away. That's not a correct analogy! You guys just want to jump on the band wagon of the extreme!

And NO, I did not vote for Obama. I had very wealthy parents, and they did NOT want to give up what they worked hard for, and they were VERY hard working, and that is ALL I understood......then.

Then something happened, I'm not going into details, but we were almost instantly poor, over a period of about a year. And I'll tell you what, people who are poor just keep getting kicked while they're down every which way they turn.

At least I was white and educated, and we got ourselves out of it. But if you're black, Hispanic, your chances are close to friggin 0!!! And there is NO back up plan, NO safety net. Those people are just FUCKED, in every which way, and something as small as a TUTOR? ........Priceless.

You people would not know unless you lived it. I wish every soul would be required to live it to understand. I can't stress this enough.

Anyways, this is probably my last post because I'll be banned from here on out. But it's worth it. You people need to open your eyes, you need to see beyond your own set of circumstances, and stop posting analogies that are not fitting!.

The whole thing is already going against you. If you keep up with this kind of stuff, you're just digging your own grave. It'll all be gone away from you soon.

If you've ever watched Pride and Prejudice, in the 18th century it was actually considered very rude for the rich to be prejudiced against someone because of their lack of opportunity.

All you need to do is try to empathize with those in need. And stop jumping on every YAHOO guy posting some bullshit analogy that is stretching the living shit out of the truth!

It doesn't mean that you have to give up everything you've ever worked for. It doesn't mean that you have to give your salary away to some ghetto kid.

All it means is that you should, at least, TRY to understand the other side.
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We do understand it extremely well. Communist party is illegal here, they are criminals. What can you expect from ideology that invented genocide and is based on massive killings? There is no need to tell what are the ones following this ideology.
 Quoting: EMPerror


well, i'm sorry a bunch of douchebags invaded your country
and turned you into slaves. but that's not the fault of
Socialism, it's the fault of douchebags and assholes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27051494


On the contrary, it is pure Communism, the one Karl Marx was writing about.
There are must be no rich people, everyone must be equal, so be poor slaves and "be grateful for it, or die".
 Quoting: EMPerror


Before Carl Marx was "Clinton Roosevelts" claim to fame....look that shit up........1849 circa If memory serves me [link to books.google.com]
 Quoting: AdHocBOHICA



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you got A+ that is good
its doesnt mean if you get A+ in your class you can take the other people get a lower value than you as your slave , they are human created by same hands

your brain maybe A+ but your heart is E-
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it's this fucked up pussy liberal world they are building

everyones a winner!

dodge ball is illegal

your kids school teacher is telling him he can CHOOSE to be whatever gender he wants

kids these days think safe sex = blow jobs and anal

it's all part of the communist plan to destroy the moral foundation of America...

gotta love it right?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


oh, fuck off..
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Look mom! There's one now!!
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all of the countries in Europe are Socialist. and, just
like some people can drive a car very well, so, some
governments can't do Socialism very well. but there
are actually some of the Socialist countries in Europe
that are doing quite well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27051494


so, you see? we're not talking about the Soviets or the Chinese communists.

we're talking about all the countries of Europe and even
the UK too. these are excellent examples of the Socialism
that the Democrats (Socialists) are talking about.
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all of the countries in Europe are Socialist. and, just
like some people can drive a car very well, so, some
governments can't do Socialism very well. but there
are actually some of the Socialist countries in Europe
that are doing quite well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27051494


I was reading about the socialist policies in Norway & Sweden that were a mix of privatized mandated insurance of sort. But the socialism also mandates anti-family policies. Socialism is not good. It is big Gov and high tax that keeps getting bigger until world gov has been achieved. We are seeing this today with the economic collapse on a global scale.

Their mandatory schools are a pack of lies and brainwashing.

There's almost nothing good about it. Some only think there is due to being misinformed.
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Stupidest comparrison ever...first socialism and communism are 2 different things

Now Capitalism ,that works pretty good isnt it..?
All your tax money goes to gouverment and banks and the people get foodstamps(so supermarkets get a pice of the pie too)

Peace
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Look mom! Another libtard degenerate!!
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"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money [to spend]."

Margaret Thatcher
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Stupidest comparrison ever...first socialism and communism are 2 different things

Now Capitalism ,that works pretty good isnt it..?
All your tax money goes to gouverment and banks and the people get foodstamps(so supermarkets get a pice of the pie too)

Peace
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Hey Aruba tard... Socialism is just Communism before the guns are taken.
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In either system, effort is required to meet the underlying objective of that society....self enrichment or community effort. You concern yourself a little too much with those around you. If you are in a class of dunces, it is up to you to stay firm. Whining on about the dunces will not serve your interests and it is up to their parents to ensure that they excel.

Philanthropists may think they will need a leg up. That has always been the case with charitable capitalists. This does not make them socialists. In a socialist society, there are no laggards. If you are too young ask someone what they heard about the USSR. There were no shirkers in that communist country just as there are no shirkers in capitalism.

In a nutshell if you shirk in this life, you suffer, one way or another. Being distracted by shirkers is plain old silly. Its none of your business other than to get into politics and make a shirkers life even more harder. Whether they will change is another matter. At the depths of Victorian poverty, ignorance flourished.

Lesson...get ion with your life. The smarter ones shipped out to America and elsewhere.
Workers of the World, Unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains!
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all of the countries in Europe are Socialist. and, just
like some people can drive a car very well, so, some
governments can't do Socialism very well. but there
are actually some of the Socialist countries in Europe
that are doing quite well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27051494


I was reading about the socialist policies in Norway & Sweden that were a mix of privatized mandated insurance of sort. But the socialism also mandates anti-family policies. Socialism is not good. It is big Gov and high tax that keeps getting bigger until world gov has been achieved. We are seeing this today with the economic collapse on a global scale.

Their mandatory schools are a pack of lies and brainwashing.

There's almost nothing good about it. Some only think there is due to being misinformed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27399706


the Vatican is behind worldwide socialism/agenda 21.

it fits in very well with the Luciferian/Alinsky/NWO agenda and their promise of a central global banking system.
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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do you repubs ever get tired of repeating the same thing to yourselves over and over, over and over, over and over, over and.......??
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No.

Not when you libtards just killed America.
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Every person I've met that has lived in a communist country has vehemently stated how terrible it was living in one. Why someone would want that in the USA is beyond me.
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In either system, effort is required to meet the underlying objective of that society....self enrichment or community effort. You concern yourself a little too much with those around you. If you are in a class of dunces, it is up to you to stay firm. Whining on about the dunces will not serve your interests and it is up to their parents to ensure that they excel.

Philanthropists may think they will need a leg up. That has always been the case with charitable capitalists. This does not make them socialists. In a socialist society, there are no laggards. If you are too young ask someone what they heard about the USSR. There were no shirkers in that communist country just as there are no shirkers in capitalism.

In a nutshell if you shirk in this life, you suffer, one way or another. Being distracted by shirkers is plain old silly. Its none of your business other than to get into politics and make a shirkers life even more harder. Whether they will change is another matter. At the depths of Victorian poverty, ignorance flourished.

Lesson...get ion with your life. The smarter ones shipped out to America and elsewhere.
 Quoting: Marxist


Are you sure there were no shirkers in USSR? That's more than naive.
Most were used to fake work. Typical scene was one or several workers are working "for the show", the others are playing cards at work. They can't get fired as everyone must work. You can't see such things happening anywhere else only with communism. What's worse, most were encouraged to do so.
Stealing was encouraged too. There were no normal salaries, so almost everyone had to steal to make a living. Stolen were goods that were produced and sold on a black market. There were no goods in shops as production was constantly lagging, everything in a shop was hidden, you had to ask for everything useful to get it for "something extra".
It was a perfect system to make everyone criminal and you couldn't survive without following rules that were not written openly. The only way was to become party member or to start turning in "enemies of revolution", so that you could have access to special shops, maybe get a priority for a house a car etc.
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We do understand it extremely well. Communist party is illegal here, they are criminals. What can you expect from ideology that invented genocide and is based on massive killings? There is no need to tell what are the ones following this ideology.
 Quoting: EMPerror


well, i'm sorry a bunch of douchebags invaded your country
and turned you into slaves. but that's not the fault of
Socialism, it's the fault of douchebags and assholes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27051494


On the contrary, it is pure Communism, the one Karl Marx was writing about.
There must be no rich people, everyone must be equal, so be poor slaves and "be grateful for it, or die".
 Quoting: EMPerror


Warren Buffett?? He is a HERO to the left and deeply implicated in the Franklin Scandal

go figure.

the MSM and any and all collectivists would NEVER hold that POS accountable for anything
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


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"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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Yep this is why everyone in Russia became a Lazy Drunk.

They gave up trying.


Why work harder then somebody else when you get no Benefit.


Just be a lazy D student and you can still get A grades.
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;o; another selfish hater. So it doesn't matter you're fine, it's a problem the others are fine too? You actually feel bad if more people are fine? Well congrats, you're a psychopath.
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