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Why does the world have to be this way...?

It makes me sad to think on how much as we as the human race miss out on. But no one wants to work together. No one can live in harmony with eachother and the world.

No one can put aside their differences and think about the bigger picture and what is at stake.

It is sickening of what we have become and what we are doing to eachother, our planet and the inhabitants of Earth. In which we have no right.

It seems as if no one can see what a beatiful gift we have been given. And the true potential of what is at stake. But we are missing the mark in such a big way.

There is so much hate and so much greed.

I can only imagine what it might be like in a world where everyone did what was right for the common good of humanity and the world we live in. No one had to worry about storing up wealth because there was more than enough for everyone to enjoy. No one needed to worry because there was nothing to fear.

Where is the love and compassion for one another...?

We are only here for but a moment. A fragile life. And everyone is tearing eachother apart at the seems. Why...?

Not one of us can take 1 mosal with us when we depart. So why do we think we are owed anything...?

Why does it have to be this way? It is heartbreaking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16198217


Boohoo!!

socialism ain't the answer Asshole


[link to www.youtube.com]
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
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Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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Who said anything about socialism...?

Neither socialism or capitalism works. Especially when power is corrupted.

Your view of socialism is communism and that is not the case.
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11/10/2012 01:55 AM
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And the video is a lie.

Communism is not socialm.
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11/10/2012 01:56 AM
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it's this fucked up pussy liberal world they are building

everyones a winner!

dodge ball is illegal

your kids school teacher is telling him he can CHOOSE to be whatever gender he wants

kids these days think safe sex = blow jobs and anal

it's all part of the communist plan to destroy the moral foundation of America...

gotta love it right?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Yet you are a total Jewish ass kisser, despite the fact that:

- Communist ideology is attributed to a Jewish person (Karl Marx)

- The first and major communist regime was founded primarily by Jews (Bolshevists)

-The Frankfurt school/cultural marxism that has primarily led to what you mentioned above was predominantly if not entirely Jewish.

You must have a lot of cognitive dissonance to deal with.
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11/10/2012 01:57 AM
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They don't want a society of educated intelligent, critical thinkers. They want dummies who are easy to control. And that's it in a nutshell.
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Who said anything about socialism...?

Neither socialism or capitalism works. Especially when power is corrupted.

Your view of socialism is communism and that is not the case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16198217


National Socialism works. Look at what Hitler did for Germany in the first few years of him taking office. Germany was booming.
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Who said anything about socialism...?

Neither socialism or capitalism works. Especially when power is corrupted.

Your view of socialism is communism and that is not the case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16198217


YOU JUST DON'T GET IT HUH?

Potus and the entire US Gooberment is in favor of Agenda 21 (Global Socialism)

it is their Mandate

CAPITALISM (INDIVIDUALISM) IS THE ENEMY!
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
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Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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11/10/2012 02:04 AM
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I've only heard about the horror stories associated with Hitler so can't comment on that. And in the post above I need to correct that statement. Meaning I was assiciating socialism with communism in that context but yes I agree with you that socialism in it's truest form works for everyone.
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11/10/2012 02:06 AM
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Who said anything about socialism...?

Neither socialism or capitalism works. Especially when power is corrupted.

Your view of socialism is communism and that is not the case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16198217


YOU JUST DON'T GET IT HUH?

Potus and the entire US Gooberment is in favor of Agenda 21 (Global Socialism)

it is their Mandate

CAPITALISM (INDIVIDUALISM) IS THE ENEMY!
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Oh no Brother. That is not what I am talking about here. Totally diffent. Espescially in which you are referring to.
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11/10/2012 02:09 AM
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I did not vote and I do not trust any Politicians..!!!

And anyone making commercials about people offing themselves to better benifit humanity need to start with themselves as far as I'm concerned. Just the very thought of that commercial should tell you a lot about the very organisation who made it. That is sick.
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11/10/2012 02:11 AM

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Who said anything about socialism...?

Neither socialism or capitalism works. Especially when power is corrupted.

Your view of socialism is communism and that is not the case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16198217


National Socialism works. Look at what Hitler did for Germany in the first few years of him taking office. Germany was booming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6379971


here is your NAZI ideology stupid LIBTARD

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]

ZERO differential from the CURRENT DNC platform.

go figure
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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11/10/2012 02:13 AM
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Their form of socialism is control.

It's easy to say your in favor of socialism when you are controlling all the shots.

But true socialism is a community effort for the common good of the community.

Socialism has work for ages. That is how all communites thrived. Had nothing to do with the flow of "money". But people do what is best for their community as a whole. And that doesn't mean you can't be wealthy.
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Their form of socialism is control.

It's easy to say your in favor of socialism when you are controlling all the shots.

But true socialism is a community effort for the common good of the community.

Socialism has work for ages. That is how all communites thrived. Had nothing to do with the flow of "money". But people do what is best for their community as a whole. And that doesn't mean you can't be wealthy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16198217


Collectivism has NEVER worked in the past.

the Vatican/Knights of Malta wants to try and convince you that it will work in the future.

Do YOU believe what the NWO says?
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
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Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
Really?really?

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11/10/2012 02:23 AM
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I agree and maybe socialism can only work on a community level, town village size and not nationally. Solutions to social problems are often specific to particular locales.
Really?really?
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11/10/2012 02:25 AM
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Who said anything about socialism...?

Neither socialism or capitalism works. Especially when power is corrupted.

Your view of socialism is communism and that is not the case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16198217


National Socialism works. Look at what Hitler did for Germany in the first few years of him taking office. Germany was booming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6379971


here is your NAZI ideology stupid LIBTARD

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]

ZERO differential from the CURRENT DNC platform.

go figure
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Yeah right, that's why everyone in Germany loved him hey. Can't say the same about that fuckhead Obongo.
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11/10/2012 02:31 AM
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I agree and maybe socialism can only work on a community level, town village size and not nationally. Solutions to social problems are often specific to particular locales.
 Quoting: Really?really?


Families are communal. That's how socialism & communism is sold. It appeals to our sense of family togetherness. All for one and one for all. But the family do this willingly unlike government taxed socialism. Big difference. It will never be the same. One is of God, the other of Satan.
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11/10/2012 02:33 AM
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Anyway, I am just spit balling here. I don't claim to have all the answers and i could very well be wrong. I just know that small communities have survived with socialistic life styles. Contibuting and depending on one another as a community. Not about control at all but for the common good for one another. Everyone contibutes in some way. Some more than others in different ways and at different times.

Socialism is more fmily rather than business.

Even business operates on socialostic views to be successful. Everyone works together for the company and everyone benifits. But the portions are divided by a greater margin. Seems more like Master, slave mentality. Rather than Teacher, student mentality.
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Who said anything about socialism...?

Neither socialism or capitalism works. Especially when power is corrupted.

Your view of socialism is communism and that is not the case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16198217


National Socialism works. Look at what Hitler did for Germany in the first few years of him taking office. Germany was booming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6379971


here is your NAZI ideology stupid LIBTARD

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]

ZERO differential from the CURRENT DNC platform.

go figure
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Yeah right, that's why everyone in Germany loved him hey. Can't say the same about that fuckhead Obongo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6379971


Totally different day and age

Farrakkhan/Scientology and their ilk believe in something they call Black *cough* supremacy

Do YOU believe homeskillitt??
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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I agree and maybe socialism can only work on a community level, town village size and not nationally. Solutions to social problems are often specific to particular locales.
 Quoting: Really?really?


Families are communal. That's how socialism & communism is sold. It appeals to our sense of family togetherness. All for one and one for all. But the family do this willingly unlike government taxed socialism. Big difference. It will never be the same. One is of God, the other of Satan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27399706


Yes, families do this willingly. Exactly. And that is what I am talking about. Not a "governed" taxed society. You are right.
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I agree and maybe socialism can only work on a community level, town village size and not nationally. Solutions to social problems are often specific to particular locales.
 Quoting: Really?really?


You may be right, I don't know.

I'm not talking about 1 world gov either.
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I agree and maybe socialism can only work on a community level, town village size and not nationally. Solutions to social problems are often specific to particular locales.
 Quoting: Really?really?


You may be right, I don't know.

I'm not talking about 1 world gov either.
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;o; another selfish hater. So it doesn't matter you're fine, it's a problem the others are fine too? You actually feel bad if more people are fine? Well congrats, you're a psychopath.
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yea that explains why the PTB the MSM ect. have been promoting socialism

because they care! 1rof1
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


And that's why the OP is not only a psycho, but an ignorant psycho, because what he describes is the last thing TPTB will allow, no matter who the president is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988441


typical Libtard IDIOT

didn't even bother to read the thread.

go figure
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


bump
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
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Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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it's this fucked up pussy liberal world they are building

everyones a winner!dodge ball is illegal

your kids school teacher is telling him he can CHOOSE to be whatever gender he wants

kids these days think safe sex = blow jobs and anal

it's all part of the communist plan to destroy the moral foundation of America...

gotta love it right?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


I sure love that everyone is a winner. The whole concept of winning an losing is really weird if you think about it. Winners can only be winners because of the losers. So the winners should be grateful to the losers.

So the whole competitive thing is not what we (as humans) should want. Brings out the worst in people. Rather have a world in which everyone is a winner.
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So much god-damned disinfo and misinfo.

It is NOT a socialist/communist plot, and Trinity you know better.

IT IS A ZIONIST PLOT. IT IS A SATANIC PLOT.

Agenda 21 does NOT call for global socialism. It calls for a technocratic feudalism run by the zionist/satanic new world order.
rhombus will set you free...

some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend. just what you want to be, you will be in the end!

if you can't face the truth it's probably raping you from behind.
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when I was a kid, we had school soccer game championships, or the end of the year olympics, this in elementary school.

I was the fastest sprinter in class, I was the go to guy on Relay, 50m dash, and 100m dash, the kids would chant my name before the race b/c I won every year, it made me feel like something,, and gave me some pride and spirit... You got a blue ribbon for first, red ribbon for second, yellow ribbon for third.

I only ever had blue or red, and I TRIED HARD for that shit, every year, only to beat everyone each time, it taught me to strive, and be the best..


Nowadays,, in the elementary schools, everyone gets a blue ribbon, for "participating"...

well, I'll just sit there with my thumb up my ass I guess, just gimme my ribbon..


That is socialism to me, as I would tell it to an elementary school student..

And they do this to indoctrinate, and have been doing it now for who knows how long..

what a crock of shit, ,,, why bother to strive??
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maybe the libs could understand it this way??

Maybe with a little puppet show, they could get it. I tried to dumb it down to something they'd understand, like, a 10 year old... That SHOULD work but, never know.
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I am so sick of smug self satisfied bigoted people. You think that everyone with a different viewpoint is stupid. I understand everything that you are talking about I'm not thick headed, but you make out like every liberal type stopped thinking when they were six.
We should reward people that try hard and work to achieve things, they should get opportunities and paid well for excelling, but we have to take a broader scope on success. The reason that "everyone gets a ribbon" is because everyone is doing the best for them. If people want to succeed they have to do the work and create their own results if they want to be rewarded, but we have to realize that not everyone is the "best" or given the circumstances to be the best. This worship of competition and oneupmanship is getting crazy. Who do you want on your team the best or the best team player.
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Ummm Just because your part of it doesn't mean your playing dumbass. I work 60 hours a week and make damn good money for my time. Aaaannnnd someone I know collects unemployment and doesn't plan on finding a job until that runs out. Why would he? Get the drift? :) How is that being a team player? DUMBASS!!!!
You may fool me once. But twice is unlikely
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Why does the world have to be this way...?

It makes me sad to think on how much as we as the human race miss out on. But no one wants to work together. No one can live in harmony with eachother and the world.

No one can put aside their differences and think about the bigger picture and what is at stake.

It is sickening of what we have become and what we are doing to eachother, our planet and the inhabitants of Earth. In which we have no right.

It seems as if no one can see what a beatiful gift we have been given. And the true potential of what is at stake. But we are missing the mark in such a big way.

There is so much hate and so much greed.

I can only imagine what it might be like in a world where everyone did what was right for the common good of humanity and the world we live in. No one had to worry about storing up wealth because there was more than enough for everyone to enjoy. No one needed to worry because there was nothing to fear.

Where is the love and compassion for one another...?

We are only here for but a moment. A fragile life. And everyone is tearing eachother apart at the seems. Why...?

Not one of us can take 1 mosal with us when we depart. So why do we think we are owed anything...?

Why does it have to be this way? It is heartbreaking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16198217


Shut the fuck up and go to work. Ill stay at home and collect money from what you make wacking it to porn all day and playing xbox in my fully furnished apartment your paying for. Thanks, you have GIVEN me a great life while you have to EARN it. Sounds good? Great
You may fool me once. But twice is unlikely
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IT IS A SATANIC PLOT.

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Oh gee whiz!

ya think?

luciferians+jesuits+alinsky+warran buffet+louis farrakhan+scientology+ Elizabeth warren

=SUCCESS!! indy alien16 gwdance bonghit

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"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
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Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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You people dont get it. No one gives a fuck about you or the person next to you. I dont. I do what i need to survive and live comfortably. Why cant you do the same? Why do you think that anyone cares what you do, how you feel or how you think. They want money and any way they can get it they will. Even if it means voting OBAMA. Its now dubbed from yours personally as "OBAMANOMICS"
You may fool me once. But twice is unlikely
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it's this fucked up pussy liberal world they are building

everyones a winner!

dodge ball is illegal

your kids school teacher is telling him he can CHOOSE to be whatever gender he wants

kids these days think safe sex = blow jobs and anal

it's all part of the communist plan to destroy the moral foundation of America...

gotta love it right?
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Wrong actually.

We all know that socialism and communism don't work. There is no incentive to achieve.

BUT rampant deregulated capitalism is a failed system also.

Why do you think we are all in the mess we are now? It isn't socialism that caused it!

In effect the anti socialist capitalists have sabotaged capitalism with their greed and destruction of checks and balances that they have destroyed capitalism as well.

The right is as loony as the left.

Time for people in the middle to stand up and be counted.

Proper regulation to control the rich capitalists and punish those who have cheated everyone is the only way to get things working again.

We need to put incentive back by eliminating greed.

Greed is the enemy and you get that in all systems!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661


Finally somebody got it. Sorry to say that, but americans are so propagandized to think a certain way in what socialism and communism is. Not even China practizes communism anymore. Its a sort of a dictatorship of a party, not a sole man. America was a pure unregulated capitalist country, thats why it got hit by their own greedy ones. Now Obama is trying to find the middle way. Unfortunately it will cause pain for a short time, unless there are people working and planning things from behind.
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Well, My heart is definitely for the common good of all men. I do feel my heart is in the right place. My opinion may be flawed but I hope that my heart is right.

Maybe capitalism nor socialism is the answer. Perhaps we just haven't got it right yet. IDK

I just want to do the right thing. Is it OK to say that..?

I am a Christian and I am not ashamed to say that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior.

I want nothing but the best for you. All of you.

I love GOD and I love people. So even though you may not agree with me, that's cool. I understand.

As well, I fully understand that I could very well be wrong in my opinion. But I just can't help wanting the best for all you and how I feel in my heart.

Not judgemental at all, just honest sincerity.

Love you guys and may GOD bless you

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