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Boromir_sk User ID: 27400379 Germany 11/10/2012 06:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is not something that other people think. Actually communism is a variant of capitalism. And this variant is not very rational for using resources and economy. Nothing good, or bad, just different type order. If you know how it works you will be amassed, how is similar with capitalism. You do not have capitalist, but Elite who controls the resources, which are from communist party. There is same fight among people, as in Capitalist societies, but who will be in this communist elites, on higher place. Today those former communist elites, all over the Eastern Europe, or their decedents, are capitalist and have majority of resources, because they privatized the organizations and resources for themselves. Boromir |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19286573 Canada 11/10/2012 07:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was living in Yugoslavia. I now Communism well. Quoting: Boromir_sk 27400379 It is not something that other people think. Actually communism is a variant of capitalism. And this variant is not very rational for using resources and economy. Nothing good, or bad, just different type order. If you know how it works you will be amassed, how is similar with capitalism. You do not have capitalist, but Elite who controls the resources, which are from communist party. There is same fight among people, as in Capitalist societies, but who will be in this communist elites, on higher place. Today those former communist elites, all over the Eastern Europe, or their decedents, are capitalist and have majority of resources, because they privatized the organizations and resources for themselves. Boromir |
Foveras User ID: 27435174 Greece 11/10/2012 07:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was living in Yugoslavia. I now Communism well. Quoting: Boromir_sk 27400379 It is not something that other people think. Actually communism is a variant of capitalism. And this variant is not very rational for using resources and economy. Nothing good, or bad, just different type order. If you know how it works you will be amassed, how is similar with capitalism. You do not have capitalist, but Elite who controls the resources, which are from communist party. There is same fight among people, as in Capitalist societies, but who will be in this communist elites, on higher place. Today those former communist elites, all over the Eastern Europe, or their decedents, are capitalist and have majority of resources, because they privatized the organizations and resources for themselves. Boromir ^^^ THIS No system made by a group of people in a way to serve mainly those people is good for the rest of us. The solution is whithin each of us. If we understand the real reason for our existance, we can hence help the people next to us and therefore create a better world. And for this you dont vote. You act daily within your life. People dont do the same mistake people here keep doing. Dont fight each other. Help each other. |
jingo User ID: 1154368 United Kingdom 11/10/2012 07:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hi it's not difficult it's just yid control of the world,the rothschild yids have created a world where everyone's dependent on money created by them,to get it we have to work for them,see abundanthope.net/nov7 PJ228 ch3/4,the curse of the world is people who set theirself up in authority over others,hierarchy of fear,13 million yids control/destroy the world to the detriment of the rest,time to marginalise them, they have power over us because we give them our power by working for them,hatonn says he'll work with us not for us, he won't be our slave,we need to do the same,must be good fun arresting folk,handcuffing them,making their wrist hurt, locking them up,humiliating them in a cell,raiding their premises,confiscating their property,charging them etc, interesting our yid government is the biggest perpetrator of crime: killing people/animals,flooding the country with drugs,producing toxic food/water/air/pharmaceuticals, indoctrinating the populace with propaganda instead of truth etc, god determines the law not yids,see phoenix journal 27, the nile valley is a fertile plain because it floods once a year,you don't mess with nature,it's god at work,thanks to the yid antichrist the planet's irreparable,interesting the queen is a double,the british empire is the yid empire,they contol banking/the media/governments etc,start all the wars, pollute/destroy the planet/us,see protocols of the learned elders of zion,we work for yids for yid money/vouchers to buy yid goods,all we've got to do is WITHDRAW our manpower, their corporations including government will collapse,then we can get on with living instead of slaving,see ringingcedars.com,everyone selfsufficient,each community decide its own fate,in accord with the laws of balance,see phoenix jounal 27,we don't need money/sell something to survive,look at other species,once there was a firmament/ belt of vapour round the earth,like venus now,protecting it from harsh radiation and maintaining a constant temperature, resulting in lush vegetation/food everywhere,however it was ruptured causing the deluge/oceans,fortunately it's being restored,see abundanthope.net,then we'll have perpetual spring,the garden of eden/aden,help yourself,everyone self sufficient,we don't need landownership/deforestation, permaculture not agriculture,we don't need concrete jungle, all construction can be underground or tree houses,eight billion annunaki have been removed from inside the earth which is hollow, 1k miles thick,the poles are holes, 1k miles wide,entrances to the inner earth,see erks.org, we don't need fossil fuel,oil is the lifeblood of the earth,the continents float on it,electricity meters are C19th tesla free energy generators,using magnets/dipoles to transform high frequency energy of the aether into low frequency energy,see cheniere.org, people get ready for the cataclysm say your catechism,expect TV announcements about the three days of darkness,maybe late december,see abundanthope.net/ oct29 invitation to the grand finale |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27168536 United States 11/10/2012 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quit working for the love of money. Quoting: Soap Quit working for the greed in your heart. Work on your passion, your desire. As soon as you do that. You wont want for cash and you wont care that someone else is doing "less". You will pity them for wasting away their life. I see poontang masseuse in my future. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27392157 United States 11/10/2012 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a great mistake for you as conservatives to make vast generalizations about the left ,the other half of the country , that are not true. we are not communists, we may see benefits in socialism in the same way a northern european country does, but that does not make us socialists and turn America into north korea. we care deeply about freedom and our choice to live in ways that we choose as long as it does not hurt another. so on and so forth. We need to find middle ground if we are to move forward.... oh never mind i doubt anyone reading this even cares . peace. |
Foveras User ID: 27435174 Greece 11/10/2012 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I grew up in a far left household. taught not to trust our gov. like many of you and to always question authority. But when it came time to understand the conservative party my parents would always explain that it in an honest way that did not simplify it's integrity or spin it in a trivial derogatory way. always spoken of with respect though as a family right-wing values did not appeal to us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27392157 It is a great mistake for you as conservatives to make vast generalizations about the left ,the other half of the country , that are not true. we are not communists, we may see benefits in socialism in the same way a northern european country does, but that does not make us socialists and turn America into north korea. we care deeply about freedom and our choice to live in ways that we choose as long as it does not hurt another. so on and so forth. We need to find middle ground if we are to move forward.... oh never mind i doubt anyone reading this even cares . peace. Hope people listen voices like yours |
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Peach User ID: 847759 United States 11/10/2012 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's this fucked up pussy liberal world they are building Quoting: ^TrInItY^ everyones a winner! dodge ball is illegal your kids school teacher is telling him he can CHOOSE to be whatever gender he wants kids these days think safe sex = blow jobs and anal it's all part of the communist plan to destroy the moral foundation of America... gotta love it right? oh, fuck off.. you must be one of the dumb-ass D students |
eve incognito User ID: 27444597 Bosnia and Herzegovina 11/10/2012 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | google, makes one quarter of their profit by allcocating money earned in USA to ireland, then to bermuda, via "offshore tax sceme", made perfectly legal by USA law, so a person working their butt off in america, making 30.000-40.000 dollars a year ends up paying more taxes then a mulit-million, multi-national company.USA loses 70 billions a year coz big farmacutical and all sort of other mulit-national companies don't pay taxes on profit made in USA, the money is electronically relocated offshore, even though money never really lives USA....so farmacutical company or facebook, rents a small room in bermuda, that employs no workers and makes no business what so ever, they transfer (only electronically), the money made in USA, to a branch i iraland, ireland "transfers" it to bermuda at the small room address, and then they end up paying less taxes per year than an avrege white colar american that is workig his or her butt off. amercians are the most zombiesk, ignorat nation in this world, you are taken for a ride daily, and you are so full of your "salut to the flag" that you do not have basic knowlidge of just how evil your goverment is, and always has been. unlike OP i have lived 13 years in socialism, (socialist countries never reached communism, comunissm is a higher goal, a sort of socialist eutopia), but socialism is way better then capitalism, and i'd live in gadafi's libia, and tito's yugoslavia ANY day, then i USA the way it has always been, especially now...my favourite politician is HUGO CHAVES, and prefer castro to any of the amercian presidents, except JFK, who, as a i relac WAS KILLED by CIA! in socialism you know exactly that you have no policitcal rights but to blindly fallow the dictator, but tito and gadafi were very kind men,(as far as dictators go), who let avrege people lead decent carefree lives, and all they wanted was to be a priority in poeple's lives as oppose to god,(god is evil anyway), and for you not to go around kissing america's evil arse. if i could live in safe country like yugosalvia was, that doen't depend on america or the rest of this shitty world for anything... that has a tonne of cute african boys come and attend university every year, that had the gutts to say not both to USA and to stalin....where you exactly knew the government wasn't your friend and you were not free, as opopse to american slavery that is proclaimed as democracy, which is isn't coz america isn't goverened by people, but by profit....etc...by all means i would choose yugolsavia, and i don't appreciate OP's post at all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/10/2012 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I grew up in a far left household. taught not to trust our gov. like many of you and to always question authority. But when it came time to understand the conservative party my parents would always explain that it in an honest way that did not simplify it's integrity or spin it in a trivial derogatory way. always spoken of with respect though as a family right-wing values did not appeal to us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27392157 It is a great mistake for you as conservatives to make vast generalizations about the left ,the other half of the country , that are not true. we are not communists, we may see benefits in socialism in the same way a northern european country does, but that does not make us socialists and turn America into north korea. we care deeply about freedom and our choice to live in ways that we choose as long as it does not hurt another. so on and so forth. We need to find middle ground if we are to move forward.... oh never mind i doubt anyone reading this even cares . peace. Lame. Ever heard of political correctness? Stick it up your ass. Freedom, my ass. |
Fatstogie User ID: 21157412 United States 11/10/2012 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are in a class. Quoting: think about it 17868616 You study really hard. You get an A. Other kids in the class get C's D's and fail. The teacher says, gee, I feel really sorry for those who didn't do well... I'm gonna give everyone A's. HOW DO YOU FEEL? This is what you voted in. The flunkies are gonna get freebies because it's what democrat means.... You lose if you were the one getting the A's and working hard. You win if you were the loser, druggie, and anyone who couldn't hold a job or get one... Thank Obama. He's giving you the A. Oh yeah and the free cell phone.... Those who got A's, guess what? You're paying for those flunkies cell phones and their cell data plan and their food and their school! Oh yeah, you have to work, but they don't!!! HAHAHAHAHA. Stupid youth. Get what you voted in. Stupid idiots.... I have no problem in with contest. But just because someone loses why does that mean they shouldnt get anything. Thats the point. Those of use who really are winners? Can easily shoulder the burden of carrying those who have less power. Once i win, now what? Now how do we test ourselves? By adding more weight. Unless of course... you arent capable. In which case you were not the "winner" that you claimed to be. I can carry more than just myself. Thats not even a contest. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26704639 United States 11/10/2012 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I grew up in a far left household. taught not to trust our gov. like many of you and to always question authority. But when it came time to understand the conservative party my parents would always explain that it in an honest way that did not simplify it's integrity or spin it in a trivial derogatory way. always spoken of with respect though as a family right-wing values did not appeal to us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27392157 It is a great mistake for you as conservatives to make vast generalizations about the left ,the other half of the country , that are not true. we are not communists, we may see benefits in socialism in the same way a northern european country does, but that does not make us socialists and turn America into north korea. we care deeply about freedom and our choice to live in ways that we choose as long as it does not hurt another. so on and so forth. We need to find middle ground if we are to move forward.... oh never mind i doubt anyone reading this even cares . peace. Quite the contrary, I see the point of both sides. Each side sees the extreme of the other. The Left are lazy freeloaders and the Right are stingy money hungry uncaring pricks. What it all boils down to is all lifeforms are of a parasitic nature. Of course there are good parasites and bad parasites. Good parasites exchange with the host. As a result, both entities benefit. Bad parasites attempt to control and drain the host ultimately killing both the parasite and the host. What we must do as a people is learn to correctly identify the bad parasites and rid ourselves of the before they kill us. Now see how this example is in agreement with your thinking? No matter if you are left or right. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25777339 New Zealand 11/10/2012 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you guys are a bunch of idiots for blaming people for what the government has done to them. the 'divide' in america is disgusting... if this forum is anything to go by, its seems that you all bicker & fight & hate each other. if yu guys were ever in 'charge' the US would go to a very dark place very quickly. they fight, they fight, they fight & fight & fight. the bitchy GLP shoooow! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26704639 United States 11/10/2012 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you guys are a bunch of idiots for blaming people for what the government has done to them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25777339 the 'divide' in america is disgusting... if this forum is anything to go by, its seems that you all bicker & fight & hate each other. if yu guys were ever in 'charge' the US would go to a very dark place very quickly. they fight, they fight, they fight & fight & fight. the bitchy GLP shoooow! Instead of bickering, see the above post for the answer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/10/2012 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you guys are a bunch of idiots for blaming people for what the government has done to them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25777339 the 'divide' in america is disgusting... if this forum is anything to go by, its seems that you all bicker & fight & hate each other. if yu guys were ever in 'charge' the US would go to a very dark place very quickly. they fight, they fight, they fight & fight & fight. the bitchy GLP shoooow! You're a moron. New Zealand only has 4,000,000 people while USA has over 350,000,000 with so many preferences of what things should be. Try dealing with that. I lived in a city with same numbers as your shitty small country. |
Babylon's Rebel User ID: 1508631 United States 11/10/2012 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are in a class. Quoting: think about it 17868616 You study really hard. You get an A. Other kids in the class get C's D's and fail. The teacher says, gee, I feel really sorry for those who didn't do well... I'm gonna give everyone A's. HOW DO YOU FEEL? This is what you voted in. The flunkies are gonna get freebies because it's what democrat means.... You lose if you were the one getting the A's and working hard. You win if you were the loser, druggie, and anyone who couldn't hold a job or get one... Thank Obama. He's giving you the A. Oh yeah and the free cell phone.... Those who got A's, guess what? You're paying for those flunkies cell phones and their cell data plan and their food and their school! Oh yeah, you have to work, but they don't!!! HAHAHAHAHA. Stupid youth. Get what you voted in. Stupid idiots.... it's this fucked up pussy liberal world they are building Quoting: ^TrInItY^ everyones a winner! dodge ball is illegal your kids school teacher is telling him he can CHOOSE to be whatever gender he wants kids these days think safe sex = blow jobs and anal it's all part of the communist plan to destroy the moral foundation of America... gotta love it right? You are both wrong. Under communism, everyone is a loser, not a winner. Here's socialism: You get an A. Everyone else get's an F. The teacher says, "That's not fair, let's redistribute that A, and average the grades together. Therefore, everyone now gets a D. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26331130 Canada 11/10/2012 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's this fucked up pussy liberal world they are building Quoting: ^TrInItY^ everyones a winner! dodge ball is illegal your kids school teacher is telling him he can CHOOSE to be whatever gender he wants kids these days think safe sex = blow jobs and anal it's all part of the communist plan to destroy the moral foundation of America... gotta love it right? By YOUR actions this Reality has been created. Think about that for a while. By not including others in a meaningful way you have allowed the Persian horde to overrun us. Go watch 300 and understand why Sparta was Karmaic-ly FUCKED. Trin I know you are a smart person, it boggles my mind how you are not able to open your mind to your own actions. Just think how hard he worked to start GLP. Do you think he's pleased he has to share with the flunkies?? I know how he feels = I did a start up. It takes your whole life away. It pisses me off that flunkies don't do anything to get a free ride. I worked my butt off like Trin did. I'm just the average person. You don't get it. Trin is brilliant. He chose to work his but off to give you the honor of dumping your opinion on his threads. Really, who is boggled about open minds here??? Do you think it matters if it's Republican or Democrats running the system? Obama is a pawn but so is Romney. The election is an illusion designed to create the image of choice. Every election we hear change but it's all the same, just throw in something about gays and obortion to divide the two parties. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1190661 Australia 11/10/2012 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's this fucked up pussy liberal world they are building Quoting: ^TrInItY^ everyones a winner! dodge ball is illegal your kids school teacher is telling him he can CHOOSE to be whatever gender he wants kids these days think safe sex = blow jobs and anal it's all part of the communist plan to destroy the moral foundation of America... gotta love it right? Wrong actually. We all know that socialism and communism don't work. There is no incentive to achieve. BUT rampant deregulated capitalism is a failed system also. Why do you think we are all in the mess we are now? It isn't socialism that caused it! In effect the anti socialist capitalists have sabotaged capitalism with their greed and destruction of checks and balances that they have destroyed capitalism as well. The right is as loony as the left. Time for people in the middle to stand up and be counted. Proper regulation to control the rich capitalists and punish those who have cheated everyone is the only way to get things working again. We need to put incentive back by eliminating greed. Greed is the enemy and you get that in all systems! Finally somebody got it. Sorry to say that, but americans are so propagandized to think a certain way in what socialism and communism is. Not even China practizes communism anymore. Its a sort of a dictatorship of a party, not a sole man. America was a pure unregulated capitalist country, thats why it got hit by their own greedy ones. Now Obama is trying to find the middle way. Unfortunately it will cause pain for a short time, unless there are people working and planning things from behind. That is 2 in the whole of world that get it... You and me! We better start spreading reasonableness virally, to increase the understanding base. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25777339 New Zealand 11/10/2012 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you guys are a bunch of idiots for blaming people for what the government has done to them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25777339 the 'divide' in america is disgusting... if this forum is anything to go by, its seems that you all bicker & fight & hate each other. if yu guys were ever in 'charge' the US would go to a very dark place very quickly. they fight, they fight, they fight & fight & fight. the bitchy GLP shoooow! You're a moron. New Zealand only has 4,000,000 people while USA has over 350,000,000 with so many preferences of what things should be. Try dealing with that. I lived in a city with same numbers as your shitty small country. ooooh good come back. lol im just gonna go outside and enjoy looking out at the stars & feel grateful im surrounded by lush green & people who are for the most part united, not fight, they fight, they fight & fight & fight. the bitchy, GLP shoooow! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25777339 New Zealand 11/10/2012 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh & whoever is spurting the BS about the US being 'communist'? I think, is dreaming. Classless society (communism definition) Really? Sorry, maybe ill buy that when the gap between rich and poor narrows & EVERYBODY is lining up in the streets waiting for there even piece of the pie. From my eyes, the US is just like most other western countries, ridiculously rich people pissing on ridiculously poor people. tricking down...my ass building a country/economy from the bottom up is not communism, its a sensible solution. but what BUZZES me out the most, is the lack of compassion for fellow countrymen in the US? its like your all walking around with a sack of potatoes on your backs complaining of the weight, not realizing your could make some chips out of those potatoes. |
Babylon's Rebel User ID: 1508631 United States 11/10/2012 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the U.S. has been Socialist since the institutions of FDR. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27051494 the Democrats are merely saying that we need more of it. that's all. Of course they say we need more of it. The Democrats are statistically the lower-income portion of the nation, and are the ones on the receiving end of these socialist programs. It's easy to be generous with other people's money. Democrats are guilty of theft. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13263762 United States 11/10/2012 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aren't socialism and communism two different things. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16439676 And what the OP said sounded so simplistic and not the reality of things, but something that gives him comfort because that way he can bash those he hates. Yes, when everyone realizes they can't afford the toilet paper any more, that they have to stand in line for four hours to get the one roll the government is allocating and that the elite gov members are still flying in 5 star jets... they revolt to the socialism and the military takes over everything and you get communism. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/10/2012 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh & whoever is spurting the BS about the US being 'communist'? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25777339 I think, is dreaming. Classless society (communism definition) Really? Sorry, maybe ill buy that when the gap between rich and poor narrows & EVERYBODY is lining up in the streets waiting for there even piece of the pie. From my eyes, the US is just like most other western countries, ridiculously rich people pissing on ridiculously poor people. tricking down...my ass building a country/economy from the bottom up is not communism, its a sensible solution. but what BUZZES me out the most, is the lack of compassion for fellow countrymen in the US? its like your all walking around with a sack of potatoes on your backs complaining of the weight, not realizing your could make some chips out of those potatoes. Man, you are totally clueless on what poor really mean in USA. Even poor people have computers, cars, cell phones, etc. Nothing like in other countries. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/10/2012 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you guys are a bunch of idiots for blaming people for what the government has done to them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25777339 the 'divide' in america is disgusting... if this forum is anything to go by, its seems that you all bicker & fight & hate each other. if yu guys were ever in 'charge' the US would go to a very dark place very quickly. they fight, they fight, they fight & fight & fight. the bitchy GLP shoooow! You're a moron. New Zealand only has 4,000,000 people while USA has over 350,000,000 with so many preferences of what things should be. Try dealing with that. I lived in a city with same numbers as your shitty small country. ooooh good come back. lol im just gonna go outside and enjoy looking out at the stars & feel grateful im surrounded by lush green & people who are for the most part united, not fight, they fight, they fight & fight & fight. the bitchy, GLP shoooow! When China invades, we'd be too poor to come and rescue you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States 11/10/2012 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27051494 Think about it very carefully... you'd get it. Republican financial criminals? Really? That's the best you came up with? Who set up Federal Reserve? Who got us into world wars? That's democrats... Pay a little closer attention to what they are doing... They are worse. |