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" Thus, to have a child with a classic Roman imperial family name for a first name plus a surname meaning "king of kings", or "king and king", then being able to transliterate this into Hebrew and arrive at a number of 666 is "statistically unusual" and that is an understatement. "

Your words OP

That's called Gematria

please stick to the topic of the thread.
if that's not possible for you, then i invite you to visit somebody else's thread.

thanks in advance.

hint: this thread is not about you.

not my words.

pulled from the article.

The NUMBER 666 and the NAME of the BEAST Without Using GEMATRIA


[link to www.shalach.org]

Why have I chosen to abandon the popular theory of 'Gematria' for determining the Name/Number of the Scarlet Abyss Beast?

After nearly 2000 years of Church history and MASSIVE traditional failed attempts using the gematria model by both theological scholars and laymen alike is proof enough, to show the number and name of the Beast, even utilizing in the last few years super computers, has little to NO fruits to bear for the 'millions' of man-hours expended.

One of the best alleged results by those who adamantly support the gematria theory (present company once included) is purported to be the name of NERO CAESAR - who by the clear admission of Scriptures themselves, respecting Rev. 17:8-11, reveal that the 8th King had to exist before John's day of his vision, and will futuristically rise from the Abyss over 2000 years later to reign as a King once more. How can Nero Caesar do this? Moreover, this alleged '666' gematria of the name of Nero is also based on a corrupted spelling of the name Nero (NERON).

Therefore, the theory of gematria is nothing more than a time consuming beast within itself, that only results in endless empty speculative assumptions and enslaves all who try to figure out the name of the Beast of Rev. 13:18 using this misguided methodology. There are currently over 6 billion people on this planet today, not even counting those before John's day, whose names are all potential candidates (some more so than others) for the theory of gematria and the number 666. Just how many of those names (if you could EVER translate them to either ancient Biblical Hebrew or ancient Biblical Greek correctly - NOT contemporary Hebrew/Greek) would actually equal 666 in either the Hebrew or Greek gematria models/methods, even as we currently speak - it is hopeless?

Meanwhile, there is NO way with absolute certainty (which is a prophetic mandate with this particular prophecy) of determining whether or not we should use either Hebrew gematria or Greek gematria - and of these two methods to complicate things even more there are several variious alternatives of each of these as well - hopeless.

Moreover, even when you are successful at deriving a name in either Biblical Hebrew or Biblical Greek that equals 666 gematria, it will NOT be supported in Scripture. Why? There is ONLY one name in all of Scripture that equals the Hebrew gematria of 666, this is SETHUR and means 'hidden' (Num.13:13). While this name may appear at first to be promising regarding the Abyss Beast, it proves to have no Babylonian connection as the 'wounded head' must.

btw... the gematria had/has nothing to do with the Mark of the Beast. Don't be led down the wrong path by a crazy hare!!!

the only use of gematria is the fact that the six is repeated three times.

that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

btw... the gematria had/has nothing to do with the Mark of the Beast. Don't be led down the wrong path by a crazy hare!!!

Why did you tell me to read an article that suggested it and then turn around and say the exact opposite thing ?

You don't know if this thread is about me or not.

You couldn't possibly possibly know that, unless you think you know me already.

If this thread is about me, then like I said

If I am the devil, then you wouldn't know, if you did know, you wouldn't believe, so who's fooling who ?

I get the feeling that you'll ban me eventually, which is fine if you do, but we'll see what comes out in the wash, won't we ?

Did you know I was born after midnight of pi approximation day, at approximately 3:15 am ?

Did you know I didn't know about what's in my photobucket until after I had my remission from brain cancer ?

How does one spend 39 years without knowing they were conceived by a rape by a Merovingian, in collusion with the Knights Templar, the Majestic Twelve, and The Illuminati, baptized during a lunar eclipse, 39 years without knowing they have a birthmark of the constellation that heralded the birth of Jesus, a name calculated to be 1080,which is also the number of the Holy Spirit.

How did it all remain unknown to me until i had a remission from brain cancer overnight ?

What does Matthew 24:36 say, Salt ?

Lol, you don't know anything about me at all Salt, that's the really amusing thing.

Tell me about the tribe of Dan, the antichrist and the scales and serpent, then explain why my last name means " serpent " ?

Tell me about Neddersassen lower saxony

What does Nedder mean ?

Tell me about where the Saxon's derive their name.

Do you know where the modern day house of Windsor came from Salt ?

Try Lower Saxony

What's my name OP ?

Do you even know ?

Tell me what the " criteria " are Salt.

Give me your special list

do you realize that you mentioned yourself 27 times in this post alone?

i'm sorry you went thru hard times and trials.

i have threads about the prophecies and criteria if you are interested. i can post links for you if you have genuine interest.

you don't meet the criteria. you just don't.
i see that this is important for you, but, you sir are not THE anti christ.

Check the following website (click on the link) for more details on the subject of this thread:

[link to endoftheage.blogspot.ca]

I didn't

What's your list of Criteria ?

OP,do you have any idea who it is,if so spit it out.or is this another long drawn out feed you bits of already talked about info threads?

Ok, so i have immersed myself in this research for the past two years. I post tons of stuff on this subject, mostly in the ILLuminati and NWO realm. Lots of biblical stuff, too.

But, recently i created a thread about I Pet Goat, II, which I believe reveals the entrance of the anti-christ (among other things).

Sound far out? maybe it is. maybe it isn't.

But, check this out.

I found an article that clearly defines just how specific and difficult it will be to fulfill the prophetic requirements for the anti-christ candidate. (What is ironic, is that the requirements for the Messiah were equally as prophetic and specific.) These requirements reveal the actual person, as well as the political and worldly environment at the time of his rising.

But, put these two pieces of information together, and we see that it is becoming quite obvious that the rising of the anti-christ, whether his birth or his emergence in world leadership, is upon us.


First, read this article:

[link to wiki.answers.com]

Snippets:
As noted, the Bible also makes it clear that The Antichrist must be Roman. That is because Daniel 9:24-27 requires this. Most people misread these verses. The syntax of the original language of the text requires that the 'he' of verse 27 refers to the "prince that shall come" of verse 26. So neither a Chinese, African, Asian, Polynesian, native American nor any other aboriginal group can provide The Antichrist. Probably only about 1 billion people at most count as "Roman". Half of them are women! As noted below, definite articles, indefinite articles, and as above pronouns, have to be handled carefully when reading ancient texts in languages like Hebrew, Chaldean etc.

The next stage of the methodology is more of an art than precise requirement. Nevertheless it will be quite analytical because one will need a very good knowledge of the Bible and its references to the Life of Jesus The Christ, the true Messiah of Israel. The Antichrist's life and rise to power will imitate, mimic, closely resemble and/or counterfeit Jesus' own path. This probably has to be the case so that people will be more easily deceived. However, without a good grasp of Jesus' early history, most people will not realise where the deceptions lie. Firstly, The Antichrist will be conceived in a way that is unusual, like Jesus. If God through the Holy Spirit caused Mary to conceive as the Scriptures tell us, Satan will attempt to conceive his counterfeit. There is a debate whether Satan will do this by direct consummation with a woman or by use of In Vitro Fertilisation using The Human Genome Project that in theory can generate a template of perfect genes to code into a woman's egg. The former seems simpler and more obvious but the latter might be the raison d'etre for modern genetic research.

Since a candidate for the antichrist has arisen and we know who his mother is, and who she might have conceived children with, direct intercourse between Satan and a woman seems even more likely now. Many women have no idea whom they have conceived children by. In this case, the mother has discussed in public an unusual event in her life that observers might identify with Satan and one of the descriptions of him in the Bible. In any event, one might say that in both Jesus' own case and with this current candidate, there will be doubt, mystery or something unique surrounding the circumstances of the child's conception.

Our candidate's mother later married another man. Before she met her current husband, she had already named her son. This is the same pattern with Mary and Joseph. The nature of this potential-antichrist's first name gives us a very strong clue regarding the ancient ethnicity of his forefathers. It's a classic Roman imperial family name. It used to be a typical Roman custom to name a child in that manner. The etymology of the name of this woman's husband, the child's step-father, is interesting because his name can be read "king of kings" or "king and king" in the old languages of the Eastern and Western Roman empires. Since we now realise that the Trojans who founded Rome after the defeat of Troy, were probably Chaldeans or Galatians, also named Celts, Chaldi, and Kurds and Hittites, depending on the language and ethnicity of the nations that talked about them, we can say that 'Rome' today extends west from Iraq to California or Vancouver. This is a very wide catchment for the Antichrist to come from but it is an important factor in limiting information so that his identity can be discerned before his rise to power and indeed several years before even he realises who he is chosen to be - Satan's only begotten Son. This also explains why a 'Roman' Antichrist might want to return his kingdom to Babylon (Southern Iraq). Rome was founded by Chaldeo-Babylonian refugees from Troy. That narrows the choices down to a particular city, as does actually happen with the origin of this candidate's mother.

Thus, to have a child with a classic Roman imperial family name for a first name plus a surname meaning "king of kings", or "king and king", then being able to transliterate this into Hebrew and arrive at a number of 666 is "statistically unusual" and that is an understatement.

There are other clues. Satan eventually corners Israel in Petra in Jordan, the ancient capital of the Edomites. Edom, although not all Edomites for some were good men (Jethro, father-in-law to Moses), has always wanted to destroy Israel. Edom's descendants in various refugee camps in the Middle East are trying to do this now. Our candidate for The Antichrist, taken by his mother and step-father, has already visited Petra. There may not be any significance in that. We may have mis-identified this person because the spelling of his name may not be absolutely correct in transliteration into Hebrew. It is quite likely that until he signs his name on some sort of official document, which may not be until he signs the Seven-Year Covenant with Israel, we will not be absolutely certain how to transliterate his name into Hebrew. For example, if he decides to adopt the surname of the man whom his mother has identified as his father, his (full) name comes nowhere near 666. It only gets exceedingly close to 666 when his first name, we dare not call it his 'christian' name, and step-father's name are used together. It may also depend on whether he uses a middle initial as many names do. He may not need to add a middle initial but there may be one or two reasons he desires to. His first- and sur-names are sufficient and together they make up a truly classical name with much, or even rich, meaning along the lines of "Majesty - king of kings". The letter 'a' or aleph in Hebrew has the value of 1 and vowels (such as 'ae' which may count as '2') may be added to enrich the name or make pronunciation more distinct or precise. Thus we depend finally on a signed name on an official document to be sure we have identified The Antichrist.



ok, so this is the part of the article that made me think of I Pet Goat II:

So 'how The Antichrist will come to be' is a good question that we can now answer to quite a significant extent. We now have someone whose name equals 666 when that is really a very difficult thing to effect. The number of his name is not the only factor that is of interest at the moment. We would be surprised if the mother of this candidate named her son so that his first name, added to her future husband's surname, unknown to her at the time of the birth of her child, would then give a full name that equalled 666. The circumstances that we know of from many published reports and official documents mean that this is either a very unusual quirk of statistics or far more powerful forces than mere men and women are at work here. Let's be practical and fair. It may simply be a statistical oddity, freak (quirk). Otherwise, the Materialists will be silenced by these developments. The Eastern philosophies of India, China, Tibet, Persia etc., which do away with a god, will likewise be silenced. In fact it makes much sense of the Pope's and Dalai Llama's frequent discussions regarding unity around a cosmic force one group will name 'God' and the other 'Nirvana'.



Thread: I, Pet Goat II by Heliofant reveals emergence of the anti-christ on the heels of several false flag events

Did you know I was conceived by a rape on my mother's birthday, November 2nd ?

Coronation day and Election day are on November 2nd.

But since you are 100% convinced you know who I am and who I'm not, we'll cut this little conversation short, and I'll leave you to calculate the number of the beast.

BTW, ....what other type of biblical calculation is there besides Gematria ?

Goodnight, pleasure not talking to you.

must be pissing off the atheists again tonight.

i love the one-stars.
the true mark of hitting the nail on the head.

OP Can you place the exact verse that proves the antichris is Roman?

there are several.
give me a few mins to dig them up

They are all wrong. The answer is surprisingly simple. And Yes, I know the answer. And No, I will not tell. There are very few people of the world that know the true mystery of 666. It is unlocked to those that study the Word showing themselves approved in the eyes of Almighty God.

Everything you need to know is in the Holy Scriptures.

Obama, his Socialistic following, his health care "TAX", and current world events are precisely in order. Amazingly planted in front of everyone face, yet 99% of the worlds population are ignorant and misled.

How I am so excited about the coming days!!! It is an extremely exciting time to live in! The prophets and apostles wanted to see these days! We are blessed to live them.

Constantine XI Palaiologos, was the last reigning Byzantine Emperor. After his death in battle during the fall of Constantinople, he became a legendary figure in Greek folklore as the "Marble Emperor" who would awaken and recover the Empire and Constantinople from the Turks. His death marked the final end of the Roman Empire, which had continued in the East for 977 years after the fall of the Western Roman Empire.

He died on 29 May 1453, the day the city fell. Although it is alleged by some like Sphrantzes, who doubted the truth of the story that the only way the Emperor was later identified was by his purple boots and that his body was decapitated and his head sent across Asia Minor to legitimize the victory, others claim that the Turks were never able to identify his body, and that he was very likely buried in a mass grave alongside his soldiers.

A legend tells that when the Ottomans entered the city, an angel rescued the emperor, turned him into marble and placed him in a cave under the earth near the Golden Gate, where he waits to be brought to life again to conquer the city back for Christians.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You say in your post that everything which is going on now in the current Administration and in World Events is happening precisely in order, planted in front of everyones' face. Could you please tell/show us where that might be found? Not being sarcastic, just extremely curious. Just a little information would be very nice to have! We're on page 3 and I don't feel like the AC is any more revealed than when I began reading. Thanks!

keep in mind that he is not from Rome as we know it today. He will be Roman in the terms of the Roman Empire.

it is too time consuming right now to dig up all the scriptures. lots in the Book of Daniel, Revelation, etc.

Maybe it will be easier to visit this thread:
Thread: 46 Prophecies the AntiChrist will fulfill