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GOOD NIGHT ALL! PEACE AND JESUS CHRIST BE WITH YOU!
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bah, I was interested in hearing the rest of what you had to say, about the the plagues/etc
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BRING THIS THREAD UP TOMORROW NIGHT! ABOUT MIDNIGHT!
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THIS IS VERY VERY SIMPLE IF ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE READ YOUR BIBLE

THE ANTICHRIST COMES IN THE FLESH AT THE

6TH SEAL
6TH VIAL
6TH TRUMP
ITS IS A NUMBER OF A MAN 666

CHRIST COMES AT THE
7TH SEAL
7TH VIAL
7TH & LAST TRUMP

You people try and be so clever...God tells you right in the bible if you people every read it and understand it.
God is not the author of confusion
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I know the sixth seal is fukishima... what does that have to do with it... I know GE built the plant?
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I also know Obama was just named the President at the time of fukishima
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(2 Dec 2008) “Is the Man of Sin Revealed?”Obama antichrist?
[link to twelvebooks.wordpress.com]
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OP Updated with the keys to the 2000 year old secret.
αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
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On the updated OP,

If you agree, word your opinion.

If you disagree, state your reasons.
αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
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On the updated OP,

If you agree, word your opinion.

If you disagree, state your reasons.
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you have not told us what is the word that equals 616. What is the English word?
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Most of Revelation is rehashing earlier Biblical writings. The mark of the Beast is a retelling of the Book of Daniel.

Dan 3:1 ¶ Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height [was] threescore cubits, [and] the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.

The width is implied in the verse to be six cubits too. So you have three 6s. The beast was a statue made in the image of Nebuchanesar.

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On the updated OP,

If you agree, word your opinion.

If you disagree, state your reasons.
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you have not told us what is the word that equals 616. What is the English word?
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Please re-read the OP. It has now been updated to clearly state the Greek word that equals 616 in the book of revelation. OP also supplies the english/latin translation of the word.

Search out this word.
Understand its concept.
It is the biblical key to your salvation.
αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
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" This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666. "

Revelation 13:18

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.”

Revelations 14:1

144,000/666= 216.2162162162162
144,000/216= 666.6666666666667

That leaves the odd 2 and 7, which when subtracted, leaves 5, which is how many times 216 is repeated in the division of 144,000/666.

216*5 = 1080

144,000/1080 = 133.3333333333333

133.3333333333333*5 = 666.6666666666667

1080 is the number associated with the Holy Spirit.

[link to membre.oricom.ca]

" The gematria for the agia pneuma, the Holy Spirit in Greek, and its anagram, gaia pneuma, the Earth spirit, is 1080 "

" When the sacred numbers representing the masculine and feminine, 666 and 1080, are added together, their sum is 1746, the number that Plato equates with "Fusion." "

[link to gnosticcross.tripod.com]

1080 is a multiple of cube root 27, 27*40=1080

360*3=1080

27 is a perfect cube , 3^3, or 3*3*3 = 27

27 letters in the Hebrew language, 22 basic letters of the Hebrew alphabet and the 5 final forms.

Plotted on a cube and split in 3 reveals hidden center letter, Nun, 111 (

See gematria values for nun 111

[link to www.billheidrick.com]

Interesting as well, if you take 1080 and divide by the " number of the beast "

1080/666 = 1.621621621621622

1.6216216216 = 360/222

The first triple repdigit in the square root of 222 is 222

A prime reciprocal magic square based on 223 in base three has a magic constant of 222.

Given 10 unlabelled nodes, 222 lattices can be created.

Radii at 0 degrees and approximately 222.49 degrees divide a circle in the golden ratio. 1/618033...

222 also has very important meanings according to Gematria.

Interesting stuff numbers are, you can do all sorts of things with them.

To some they mean nothing, to others they mean something.
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Most of Revelation is rehashing earlier Biblical writings. The mark of the Beast is a retelling of the Book of Daniel.

Dan 3:1 ¶ Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height [was] threescore cubits, [and] the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.

The width is implied in the verse to be six cubits too. So you have three 6s. The beast was a statue made in the image of Nebuchanesar.
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There are two beats. 666 and 616.

616 is the "Beast of the Sea"

666 is the "Beast out of the Earth"
αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
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Compare the entire verse of Revelation 7:14 for yourself.

[link to lovewins.us]
αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
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He comes at the
6th SEAL
6th VIAl
6TH TRUMP

When a Christian see those things happen and if he has wisdom he knows the ANTICHRIST HAS ARRIVED

WHEN YOU SEE A GREAT EARTHQUAKE
HE IS HERE....

6th Seal
Rev. 6:12-13
12. And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake;
and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13. And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs,
when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
Mk 13:14
14. But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea
flee to the mountains:
Comment: Rev. 13:18 highlights 666, which is the Sixth Seal, Sixth Trump, and Sixth Vial in
which he appears claiming to be Christ/God. The word "desolation" properly translated is
"The Desolater", he is an entity not a condition in Daniel 9:27. Satan gets kicked out of
Heaven and his Angels with him, Rev. 12:7-9. You can also read about these untimely or out
of season figs in Jeremiah 24, they are the fallen angels and are the ten kings written of in
Rev. 17:12-13. The sun represents Jesus and His light, the moon represents Satan taking the
true blood of Christ away because people will think that Satan is Christ.
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SO YOUR SAYING THAT:

Antichrist doesn't arrive until AFTER
trumpet 1 - third of the earth, trees, and green grass is burned up.

Antichrist doesn't arrive until AFTER
trumpet 2 - comet makes third of the sea appear like blood, third of the ships destroyed.

Antichrist doesn't arrive until AFTER
trumpet 3 - great star fell from the sky on a third of the water

Antichrist doesn't arrive until AFTER
trumpet 4 - third of the sun, moon, stars turned dark

Antichrist doesn't arrive until AFTER
trumpet 5 - plague of locusts upon the whole earth

Antichrist doesn't arrive until AFTER
vial(BOWL) 1 - festering sores upon the people that ALREADY HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

Antichrist doesn't arrive until AFTER
vial 2 - every living thing in the sea died

Antichrist doesn't arrive until AFTER
vial 3 - rivers become blood

Antichrist doesn't arrive until AFTER
vial 5 - kingdom of the beast plunged into darkness


YOUR POSTS ON THIS THREAD ARE RELIGIOUS PROPAGANDA SERVING YOUR OWN EGO.

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IT IS GOD THAT SENDS THE GREAT PUNISHMENT.
IT IS GOD HIMSELF THAT VIOLENTLY SHAKES THE EARTH:

Isaiah 2:19 - "People will flee to caves in the rocks and to holes in the ground from the fearful presence of the Lord and the splendor of his majesty, when he rises to shake the earth."

Isaiah 2:22-23 - "They will flee to caverns in the rocks and to the overhanging crags from the fearful presence of the Lord and the splendor of his majesty, when he rises to shake the earth. Stop trusting in mere humans, who have but a breath in their nostrils. Why hold them in esteem?"
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There is only one verse in the bible with the sum 666 -- [Num 10:20] And over the host of the tribe of the children of Gad was Eliasaph the son of Deuel.

There is only one verse in the bible with the sum 616 -- [Psa 108:3] I will praise thee, O LORD, among the people: and I will sing praises unto thee among the nations.

In most manuscripts of the New Testament the number is 666, but the variant 616 ( [link to www.csad.ox.ac.uk] is found in critical editions of the Greek text, such as the Novum Testamentum Graece. No greek word in the book of revelations is equal to 666.

There is only greek word in the book of Revelations to equal 616 is found in Rev7:14

[Rev 7:14] And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

[Rev 7:14 - Textus Receptus [ [link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to translate.google.ca]

Greek word: επλυναν = 616
epsilon-pi-lambada-upsilon-nu-alpha-nu (eplunan)

Factor: 2x2x2x7x11 ( [link to www.numberman.net]

[link to translate.google.com]

The english translation is: Elute, from the Latin elutus (washed out), 1731. ( [link to en.wiktionary.org]

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Via Wikipedia:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Number of the Beast is the numerical value of the name of the person symbolized by the beast from the sea, the first of two symbolic beasts described in chapter 13 of the Book of Revelation.

In most manuscripts of the New Testament the number is 666, but the variant 616 is found in critical editions of the Greek text, such as the Novum Testamentum Graece.

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Have you looked into this?

I know what the word is. It has nothing to do with crazy word games or theories. It is right in the bible so I can not for the life of me understand why no one has identified this word as a possibility...

The reward of knowing this --- almost feels equivalent to solving a child's word game... What does one do with that knowledge? Do you think its important?

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Why would we have to count the number?
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To understand this you need to first understand Gematria ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] )

Also helps to understand the Significance of numbers in Judaism ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] ).

In ancient greek, they did not have numbers (like the 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0 digits that are common use in todays western languages) they attributed a value to their letters, in a similar fashion that the romans used roman numerals eg. VII = 7

Greek numerals are a system of representing numbers using letters of the Greek alphabet. Rather than me typing out a lesson here, check out the basics at this page on Classical Greek Numbers: [link to gwydir.demon.co.uk]

So, with that said, we all know (I hope) that the New Testament was not written by a single author, nor was it meant to be a single book that was written in english.

The New Testament we have today has been transliterated by scholars from ancient greek scrolls. Sometimes those scrolls were not originals themselves and now that we are finding older scrolls that can be scientifically verified as pre-dating the scrolls we already know about, we can perceive that the older scroll would be more likely to be correct than the one that was copied at a later date.

An event like this is how the number in todays bible reads as 666 but the ancient greek scroll clearly reads 616.

My point is that no word in the greek scrolls for the book of revelations are equal to the value of 666.

There is however, one word in the entire book of revelation that is equal to the sum 616 and there are no others!

That word is is the key to this 2000 year old riddle!

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is "six hundred and sixteen".

Further than that this word directly relates to the biblical "beast from the sea"

I believe GOD wants you to seek that word, find it, understand it. Help others to do the same. Your eternal soul depends on this one action.
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/I can not say much but to prompt you the right direction what if number refers not to code of the best but the number how many reside in his army a lot of your understanding needs refining but a lot you have perfectly understood/
/John Titor is not the only time traveler as the case for me but he is different for he was not real/
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Most of Revelation is rehashing earlier Biblical writings. The mark of the Beast is a retelling of the Book of Daniel.

Dan 3:1 ¶ Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height [was] threescore cubits, [and] the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.

The width is implied in the verse to be six cubits too. So you have three 6s. The beast was a statue made in the image of Nebuchanesar.
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There are two beats. 666 and 616.

616 is the "Beast of the Sea"

666 is the "Beast out of the Earth"
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What are the Latin and Greek words for Earth ?
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/I can not say much but to prompt you the right direction what if number refers not to code of the best but the number how many reside in his army a lot of your understanding needs refining but a lot you have perfectly understood/
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Thank you for your words, I will Think On your guidance; I am following the path that has been set before me. The Holy Spirit guides us to the Word, my journey has started.
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" This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666. "

Revelation 13:18

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.”

Revelations 14:1

144,000/666= 216.2162162162162
144,000/216= 666.6666666666667

That leaves the odd 2 and 7, which when subtracted, leaves 5, which is how many times 216 is repeated in the division of 144,000/666.

216*5 = 1080

144,000/1080 = 133.3333333333333

133.3333333333333*5 = 666.6666666666667

1080 is the number associated with the Holy Spirit.

[link to membre.oricom.ca]

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For your consideration:

Revelation 13:18

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.”

Revelations 14:1

144,000/616 = 233.766233766
144,000/233.766233766 = 616.000000001

That leaves only one. The alpha. The Aleph of Canaan.

Or as was written in [Revelations 7:14 (Textus Receptus)]

Greek-EN-Transliteration: elef̱kanan (elef-kanan)
Greek Letters: ελευκαναν
Greek Letter Names: /epsilon-lambada-epsilon-upsilon-kappa-alpha-nu-alpha-nu/
Value: 562
Factor: 2 X 281

[link to translate.google.ca]

English Defenition (Strong's#3021): I whiten, make white.

The audible translation on Google is eerily short -- not typical to find a broken phonetic audio in google. I believe this sound is (or should be) the original name/title of GOD.

Maybe coincidently, in the year 281, there are only two events on record.

Roman Empire
Emperor Probus returns to Rome, where he celebrates his triumph over the Vandals and the usurpers (Bonosus, Julius Saturninus and Proculus).

Birth
Aquilina, Christian saint (d. 293) (notice the name of the saint references water)

(source: wikipedia - [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I just thought it was interesting that if you take the number of people supposedly " marked ", 144000 and divide it by the number of the beast, at least one, 666, you get 216.2162162162162, which is 216 repeated 5 times, which equals the number of god/holy spirit, etc, 1080.

But, If you take the number of chosen , 144000, and divide it by the number of god, 1080, you get a number, 133.3333333333333, that multiplied by 5 gives you the number of the beast.

Gematria/numerology is definitely interesting stuff no doubt, but anybody can claim meaning to it.

Hell, my full name = 1080.
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What are the Latin and Greek words for Earth ?
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"Beast of the Sea" ( [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Is described in Revelation 11:7 and comes up out of the Abyss ( [link to lovewins.us]
[link to lovewins.us]

note: I do not actually understand how abyss has become sea in modern day biblical language. It may derive from the thought that "Abyss" can be an alternate description for the word "Gulf".

Interestingly the latin form of Abyss is Abyssus. The "-us" suffix "is found on masculine, feminine and neuter nouns (e.g. carrus, manus and genus, respectively). Generally it indicates the nominative, but in some 3rd declension nouns like senatus -us, it is also the genitive, and of course neuter nominatives and accusatives are always the same."

"Beast of the Earth" ( [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Is described in Revelation 13:11 and rises from the Earth ( [link to lovewins.us]
[link to lovewins.us]

The latin form of Earth is Terra.
αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
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Gematria/numerology is definitely interesting stuff no doubt, but anybody can claim meaning to it.

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Agreed. However, truth can be confirmed through the holy Word.
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The fact that if you divide the number of the number of holy spirit, 1080, by the number of the beast, 666, you get a number 1.621621621621622, that if shortened to 1.6216216216 yields the ratio 222/360, which is what the golden ratio is derived from, is pretty cool.

The golden ratio is like the fingerprint of god.

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What are the Latin and Greek words for Earth ?
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"Beast of the Sea" ( [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Is described in Revelation 11:7 and comes up out of the Abyss ( [link to lovewins.us]
[link to lovewins.us]

note: I do not actually understand how abyss has become sea in modern day biblical language. It may derive from the thought that "Abyss" can be an alternate description for the word "Gulf".

Interestingly the latin form of Abyss is Abyssus. The "-us" suffix "is found on masculine, feminine and neuter nouns (e.g. carrus, manus and genus, respectively). Generally it indicates the nominative, but in some 3rd declension nouns like senatus -us, it is also the genitive, and of course neuter nominatives and accusatives are always the same."

"Beast of the Earth" ( [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Is described in Revelation 13:11 and rises from the Earth ( [link to lovewins.us]
[link to lovewins.us]

The latin form of Earth is Terra.
 Quoting: Son of the Isle


There is also " ge " meaning " Earth/soil " in Greek, but it's usually combined with " ergon ", meaning " work ", to form a common name.

Was the book of Revelation written in Latin or Greek ?

I don't recall.
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Interesting too is the Babylonian Magic Square of the Sun, which gives 111 when added across or diagonally, but totals to 666 as well.

[link to gematrianumerology.blogspot.com]

111 being the number revealed when the Hebrew language, numbered by the only known perfect cube number,27, is plotted on a 3d cube.

[link to www.meetingtent.com]

Pretty wild stuff
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Another neat thing about the number 1080, from a blog I found:

[link to thenephilimchronicles.blogspot.com]

" At the close of each “great year,” called by Aristotle-according to Censorinus-the greatest, and which consists of six sars. Our planet is subjected to a thorough physical revolution.

" Berosses, himself a Chaldean astrologer, at the temple of Belus, at Babylon, gives the duration of a sar, or sarsus, 3,600 years; a neros 600; and a sossus 60. "

" The polar and equatorial climates gradually exchange places; the former moving slowly toward the line, and the tropical zone, with its exuberant vegetation and swarming animal life, replacing the forbidding wastes of the icy poles. This change in climate is necessarily attended by cataclysms, earthquakes, and other cosmical throes. As the beds of the ocean are displaced, at he end of every decimillenium and about a neros, a semi-universal deluge like the legendary Noachian ( The Biblical Genesis flood narrative ) flood is brought about. "

So uncertain were the commentators about the length of this year, that none except Herodotus and Linus, who assigned to it a length of 10,800 years, [3600 sars X 3 =1080].

According to the claims of the Babylonian priests,
corroborated by Eupolemus, the city of Babylon, owes it s foundation to those who were saved from the catastrophe of the deluge; they were the giants and they built the tower which is noticed in history. (This is in flat contradiction of the Bible narrative, which tells us that the deluge was sent for the special destruction of these giants. (The Babylonian priest had no object to invent lies.) These giants who were great astrologers and had received moreover from their fathers, “sons of God,” every instruction pertaining to secret matters.”

The number 1080 is the number that is symbolic of the Spirit of the Earth, and can be associated with the Earth Mother. The earliest use of the number 1080 was found in a list compiled by Berosses, A Babylonian priest who died about 260 B.C., who compiled a list of Babylonian kings who lived before the flood.

Kings Length of reign

Alorus 36,000
Alaparos 10,800
Amelon 46,800
Ammenon 43,200
Megalaros 64,800
Daos 36,000
Euedoracho 64,800
Amempsinos 36,000
Otiartes 28,800
Xisouthros 64,800

Total 432,000 years

. Numbers of interest within the Babylonian Kings lists before the flood are the 10,800, 43,200, 64,800 because they are all divisible by 1080. If the planet is subjected to a thorough physical revolution, every 6 sars or 216,000 years; the Babylonian kings would constitute that the earth had gone through a prior catastrophe before the Noachian flood. The number 432,000 years as the total amount of years prior to the flood is divisible by 3600 and also 1080. 432,000 ÷ 3600= 120, 432,000 ÷ 1080 = 400. 432,000 ÷ 2 = 216,000 ÷ 2 = 10,800. 216 is the sum total of 6 X 6 X 6 = 216. It is also found by doubling 1080 to 2160.
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Was the book of Revelation written in Latin or Greek ?

I don't recall.
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Written in Koine Greek, its title is derived from the first word of the text, apokalypsis, meaning "unveiling" or "revelation".

More at: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
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Revelation 13:17
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

It's the number of a man and also the number of his name. It's just another identifying characteristic of the beast power (the antichrist)... again it's the Papacy, because the offical name for the Pope (the man at the head of the power) is VICARIVS FILII DEI... and the Roman numeral value of that equals 666. There are numerous identifiers as to who the beast power is... this is just one more clue that PROVES it's no other power than the Papacy.
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Revelations 14:1

144,000/616 = 233.766233766
144,000/233.766233766 = 616.000000001

That leaves only one. The alpha. The Aleph of Canaan.

Or as was written in [Revelations 7:14 (Textus Receptus)]

Greek-EN-Transliteration: elef̱kanan (elef-kanan)
Greek Letters: ελευκαναν
Greek Letter Names: /epsilon-lambada-epsilon-upsilon-kappa-alpha-nu-alpha-nu/
Value: 562
Factor: 2 X 281

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English Defenition (Strong's#3021): I whiten, make white.


 Quoting: Son of the Isle


From "The Apocraphal Books of the New Testament", 1901

CHAPTER XX

There was also at Jerusalem one named Zaccheus, who was a schoolmaster. 2 And he said to Joseph, Joseph, why dost thou not send Jesus to me, that he may learn his letters? 3 Joseph agreed, and told St. Mary; 4 So they brought him to that master; who, as soon as he saw him, wrote out an alphabet for him. 5 And he bade him say Aleph; and when he had said Aleph, the master bade him pronounce Beth. 6 Then the Lord Jesus said to him, Tell me first the meaning of the letter Aleph, and then I will pronounce Beth. 7 And when the master threatened to whip him, the Lord Jesus explained to him the meaning of the letters Aleph and Beth; 8 Also which were the straight figures of the letters, which the oblique, and what letters had double figures; which had points, and which had none; why one letter went before another; and many other things he began to tell him, and explain, of which the master himself had never heard, nor read any book. 9 The Lord Jesus farther said the master, Take notice how I say to thee; then he began clearly and distinctly to say Aleph, Beth, Gimel, Daleth, and so on to the end of the alphabet. 10 At this the master was so surprised, that he said, I believe his boy was born before Noah; 11 And turning to Joseph, he said, Thou hast brought a boy to be to be taught, who is more learned than any master. 12 He said also unto St. Mary, This your son has no need of any learning.

13 They brought him then to a more learned master, who, when he saw him, said, say Aleph. 14 And when he had said Aleph, he master bade him pronounce Beth; to which the Lord Jesus replied, Tell me first the meaning of the letter Aleph, and then I will pronounce Beth. 15 But this master, when he lift up his hand to whip him, had his hand presently withered, and he died. 16 Then said Joseph to St. Mary, henceforth we will not allow him to go out of the house; for every one who displeases him is killed.

Things to take away from this:

1) Aleph is older than the time of Noah.
2) Words and threats should be responded to with Words. Action is responded to with a Reaction.
αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
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Re: Number of the Beast
GOOD NIGHT ALL! PEACE AND JESUS CHRIST BE WITH YOU!
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bah, I was interested in hearing the rest of what you had to say, about the the plagues/etc
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BRING THIS THREAD UP TOMORROW NIGHT! ABOUT MIDNIGHT!
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It's been brought
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/I can not say much but to prompt you the right direction what if number refers not to code of the best but the number how many reside in his army a lot of your understanding needs refining but a lot you have perfectly understood/
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Thank you for your words, I will Think On your guidance; I am following the path that has been set before me. The Holy Spirit guides us to the Word, my journey has started.
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/I can not say much but to prompt you the right direction what if number refers not to code of the best but the number how many reside in his army a lot of your understanding needs refining but a lot you have perfectly understood/
 Quoting: M R X


Thank you for your words, I will Think On your guidance; I am following the path that has been set before me. The Holy Spirit guides us to the Word, my journey has started.
 Quoting: Son of the Isle


/Oh please I hope I did not sound rude or arrogant merely offering alternative interpretations any who follows good will come good be it no fault of yours if you make mistakes I have made many myself thank you for dwelling on my advice it will give an important new angle to what happens in the end battle one more word Nephilim/
/John Titor is not the only time traveler as the case for me but he is different for he was not real/
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/Oh please I hope I did not sound rude or arrogant merely offering alternative interpretations any who follows good will come good be it no fault of yours if you make mistakes I have made many myself thank you for dwelling on my advice it will give an important new angle to what happens in the end battle one more word Nephilim/
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Not at all; I don't claim to know everything and I'm certainly no profit.

The claims I have made could be perceived as the greatness of mankind, however I would be reminded of a saying; Let nothing be great, nothing high, nothing pleasing, nothing acceptable unto thee, save God Himself or the things of God.

I have heard others say that God does not exist, to them I testify that I have heard his voice louder than theirs.

Again, I thank you, I still have much to understand about how this greatness affects us all. The more of us their are asking for the truth, the louder he will hear our cries... spread the word.

Be not afraid of greatness:
some are born great, some achieve greatness,
and some have greatness thrust upon them.

- William Shakespeare

God has called on me --- and thrusted this greatness upon me.
αιδουσι ~ "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7)
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/Oh please I hope I did not sound rude or arrogant merely offering alternative interpretations any who follows good will come good be it no fault of yours if you make mistakes I have made many myself thank you for dwelling on my advice it will give an important new angle to what happens in the end battle one more word Nephilim/
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Not at all; I don't claim to know everything and I'm certainly no profit.

The claims I have made could be perceived as the greatness of mankind, however I would be reminded of a saying; Let nothing be great, nothing high, nothing pleasing, nothing acceptable unto thee, save God Himself or the things of God.

I have heard others say that God does not exist, to them I testify that I have heard his voice louder than theirs.

Again, I thank you, I still have much to understand about how this greatness affects us all. The more of us their are asking for the truth, the louder he will hear our cries... spread the word.

Be not afraid of greatness:
some are born great, some achieve greatness,
and some have greatness thrust upon them.

- William Shakespeare

God has called on me --- and thrusted this greatness upon me.
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/You are a risen heart who will go on to lead many in your life you have great values and sight that many in this world do not have or waste away I agree with all you just said in voices of God and sight of truth we know the one called the platinum warrior is watching from above guiding with a gentle but firm hand those who say he can not exist because he allows suffering do not comprehend the truth that we humans are proud and beg for freedom but that means God must ignore us and let us live our own lives how can we be kept safe if we insist on walking a forest late at night but now at last a new age as the heavens and earth of old fade into the whirlpool of sorrow a new heaven and earth arrives where we can have both freedom and eternal peace unimaginable to us right now but only the narrow minded dismiss that which they do not understand I do not know the ins and outs of a computer it fascinates me to know this greatest of inventions can do so many things but the more I try to get my head around it the more it confounds me but not for one second do I declare computers are magic or can not exist because I can't understand them just as we do not dismiss God just because we aren't able to fathom all his might/
/John Titor is not the only time traveler as the case for me but he is different for he was not real/
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Re: Number of the Beast
THIS IS VERY VERY SIMPLE IF ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE READ YOUR BIBLE

THE ANTICHRIST COMES IN THE FLESH AT THE

6TH SEAL
6TH VIAL
6TH TRUMP
ITS IS A NUMBER OF A MAN 666

CHRIST COMES AT THE
7TH SEAL
7TH VIAL
7TH & LAST TRUMP

You people try and be so clever...God tells you right in the bible if you people every read it and understand it.
God is not the author of confusion
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Thanks for that revelation. Now try this on for size. The words of John state that one is wise if one COUNTS the number of the Beast. This means one must either sum total being 6+6+6 =18 or one must calculate or multiply 6x6x6 = 216. These numbers are significant because in 1778 the Constitution of the U.S.A. was RATIFED in 1778 and when you subtract the year 2012 from 1778 you end up with 216. So I believe that some MAN OF POWER whose name totals 18 will be revealed in the year 2012 to be THE BEAST.

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