Number of the Beast

The number of a man, not of his name. A difference of meaning IMO.

MU. EPSILON .TAU. ALPHA. THETA. ETA. PI. IOTA. OMICRON. NU , with one more word spelled out .this adds to the number of the beast for it is the number of a man.

Revelation 13:17-18 (King James Version)

17 And that no man might buy or sell , save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is "six hundred and sixteen".

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"Although Irenaeus (2nd century AD) affirmed the number to be 666 and reported several scribal errors of the number, he knew about the 616 reading, but did not adopt it (Haer. v.30,3). However, several centuries later, correcting the existing Latin language version of the New Testament, commonly referred to as the Vetus Latina, Jerome left 616 in.[22] "The number 666 has been substituted for 616 either by analogy with 888, the [Greek] number of Jesus (Deissmann), or because it is a triangular number, the sum of the first 36 numbers (1+2+3+4+5+6...+36 = 666)"

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I am taking for granted here that everyone knows "Number of his name" is widely considered to mean the Gematria ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] as numerals did not exist when the bible was created, every letter was also equal to a number.

it is the number of MAN not of A man.
Man is the beast.Unreedmed man is the beast.

Exactly, thank you I was trying to figure out how to word this. This is what the word speaks on.

Last Edited by Son of the Isle on 11/10/2012 04:10 AM

Also in further consideration of the number 616:

6 + 1 + 6 = 13

Romans 13 speaks to us on "Submission to Governing Authorities".

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meta thepion thelema =666 numeric values of the letters are added together to form the total.

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six

the ORIGINAL texts DO NOT say A MAN.They say MAN!

indeed

What about Carbon 12
Hexagonal molecule.
6 neutrons
6 protons
6 electrons

Now look after all the hexagon in churches, flags (Israel)...
It's my understanding thru texts that human already have the mark of the beast.
I mean here that key life component in C12.

To me holly texts are just a metaphore for what we are and where we from.
Genetically modified.

Another interesting point to me is virgin Marie and immaculate conception which can be considered as In Vitro conception.

Just so we are all clear the actuall word is "anthropos":

ανθρωπος

Strongs (G0444) defines this as:

anthropos {anth'-ro-pos} from 435 and ops (the countenance, from 3700); man-faced, i.e. a human being; TDNT - 1:364,59; n m AV - man 552, not tr 4, misc 3; 559 1) a human being, whether male or female 1a) generically, to include all human individuals 1b) to distinguish man from beings of a different race or order 1b1) of animals and plants 1b2) of from God and Christ 1b3) of the angels 1c) with the added notion of weakness, by which man is led into a mistake or prompted to sin 1d) with the adjunct notion of contempt or disdainful pity 1e) with reference to two fold nature of man, body and soul 1f) with reference to the two fold nature of man, the corrupt and the truly Christian man, conformed to the nature of God 1g) with reference to sex, a male 2) indefinitely, someone, a man, one 3) in the plural, people 4) joined with other words, merchantman

Note at the end: "joined with other words, merchantman".

This is in reflection of a Title (now commonly in use as a name) being a key differentiation capable of being employed "to distinguish man from beings of a different race or order 1b1) of animals and plants 1b2) of from God and Christ 1b3) of the angels".

Revelation 13:17-18 (King James Version)

17 And that no man might buy or sell , save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is "six hundred and sixteen".


THIS I get,the rest,ya'll lost me....Need more coffee.(and wisdom)

587 TEH NUMBER OF THE FEAST

I now see the importance of this verse and why they have gone to such great lengths to hide the truth for close to 2000 years.

Understanding this will save your eternal soul. Nothing else matters except this word and its entire concept as is verified in Mark 3:28-30:

"Truly I tell you, people will be forgiven all their sins and all the blasphemies they utter. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, but is guilty of an eternal sin. He said this because they [the Pharisees] were saying, ‘He has an evil spirit’."

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Carbon is right..I think it will be in the form of some global carbon tax and everyone will receive something for monitoring and selling/purchasing

Can you please make your point a little clearer OP?

I just don't understand why The Bible states "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is "six hundred and sixteen(or 666)".

Why would we have to count the number? When the number is already stated. So what we should be doing is calculating all the names that add up to 666 or 616 and start our little witch hunt then or maybe then he'll show himself.

We are the fallen one. We live out this life gaining experience and slowly we are waking up to our divine nature. Once we take control of the beast (Primal Mind) and accept the bigger reality...well you guys are coming to the same conclusions I just made a few weeks ago. Wild how that works!

C'mon, I couldn't resist it

To understand this you need to first understand Gematria ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] )

Also helps to understand the Significance of numbers in Judaism ( [link to en.wikipedia.org] ).

In ancient greek, they did not have numbers (like the 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0 digits that are common use in todays western languages) they attributed a value to their letters, in a similar fashion that the romans used roman numerals eg. VII = 7

Greek numerals are a system of representing numbers using letters of the Greek alphabet. Rather than me typing out a lesson here, check out the basics at this page on Classical Greek Numbers: [link to gwydir.demon.co.uk]

So, with that said, we all know (I hope) that the New Testament was not written by a single author, nor was it meant to be a single book that was written in english.

The New Testament we have today has been transliterated by scholars from ancient greek scrolls. Sometimes those scrolls were not originals themselves and now that we are finding older scrolls that can be scientifically verified as pre-dating the scrolls we already know about, we can perceive that the older scroll would be more likely to be correct than the one that was copied at a later date.

An event like this is how the number in todays bible reads as 666 but the ancient greek scroll clearly reads 616.

My point is that no word in the greek scrolls for the book of revelations are equal to the value of 666.

There is however, one word in the entire book of revelation that is equal to the sum 616 and there are no others!

That word is is the key to this 2000 year old riddle!

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is "six hundred and sixteen".

Further than that this word directly relates to the biblical "beast from the sea"

I believe GOD wants you to seek that word, find it, understand it. Help others to do the same. Your eternal soul depends on this one action.

Last Edited by Son of the Isle on 11/11/2012 01:41 AM

If you cannot buy or sell without it then the mark of the beast is money..... who is on money

You people amaze me. The number is 666. It has always been even in the original language.

The answer is in Revelation even. Study harder, folks.

It is NOT a name!

I'll give you a clue:
If it looks like a duck, quacks, like a duck, and walks like a duck, then it is a duck.

That pretty much describes what the Mark of the Beast is all about. Put on your thinking caps.

I could just give you the answer, but what fun would that be. It is hard earned knowledge from study and paying attention.


I've already given you so much to go on.

No. No. No.

Sheesh.... you are thinking in terms of modern language. You have a modern mind. A gematria has nothing to do with it.


It's so simple. You would kick yourself if I told you.

Nope.

Nope.

YUP

lol :-)

nope.

It makes sense if I told you. Study.

nope

THIS IS VERY VERY SIMPLE IF ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE READ YOUR BIBLE

THE ANTICHRIST COMES IN THE FLESH AT THE
6TH SEAL
6TH VIAL
6TH TRUMP
ITS IS A NUMBER OF A MAN 666

CHRIST COMES AT THE
7TH SEAL
7TH VIAL
7TH & LAST TRUMP

You people try and be so clever...God tells you right in the bible if you people every read it and understand it.
God is not the author of confusion