???Is God Confirming/Proof That The Serpernt Told The Truth???

Wrong, he is not your father. Only of Jesus. You can come to knowing through Jesus. No other way.

The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life. John 6:63


6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.

7You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ 8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.
9“How can this be? Nicodemus asked.
10You are Israel’s teacher, said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things? John 3

no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. John 3:5

Still can't get over the fact that the bible god loves the smell of burnt offerings. Wonder if god ate them with BBQ sauce? Now that's what I call 'love of flesh. idk

do you know mauro biglino?

no

search him, it will be intresteing, trust me www.maurobiglino.com.

ok, i will

he states Yahweh is not God, but a flesh being. His bases this on morality and different translations of the bible.
For istance Lot was saved from sodoma because he was considered a good man as opposed to the sodomists who had orgies ... well at one point Lot offered his daughters to be raped, and after getting out of sodoma he slept with his daughters. How was he better that the regular sodomists? was he saved because he was loyal or good?
for translations of the bible he has many exapmles as the efod which David apperas to need in order to speak to Yahweh who wasn't near, or the glory of God, or the cherubims, or the angels...

Lot was rescued because of Abraham.

Like people will be saved because of Jesus.

His words against the one of Jesus:

John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.

18No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1

6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. John 3

Genesis 6:3 My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

what are you saying? Lot was saved due to his relations?

Exactly, OT and NT are in contradiction.
On many times OT god is not like Jesus describes God. OT and NT are in contradiction.
In the OT:'the lord is a lord of war'- something like that.
This has nothing to do with what Jesus preached. God is about love not war.

the flaming sword is called death
the truth,the eastern gate is a cementary in the holy city
therefor the messiah comes from the dead to reveal life
so simple we cant understand it

I did not mean their blood relationship The angels came from Abraham he was pleading with them before.

God is sovereign above all aspects of duality. The Father of Jesus who is the Light only:


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

So yahweh condemned all the sodomists because they were evil, but lot, who was the same, was saved as a favour to abraham. this sounds like a human decision if you ask me. Ande I don't know about duality. In Jesus ther's no duality just good, I say it's the same with God.

Don't get me wrong, i believe in God it's just that some stories of the bible don't fit in in my opinion.

Why do you call me good? Jesus answered. No one is good--except God alone. Luke 18:19

The Hebrew word that the word "snake" was translated from is the word NAKASH.

It does mean snake, but it also means enchanter, deceiver.

Which makes more sense? The snake deceived Eve, or the deceiver deceived Eve.

The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is satan.
The tree of LIFE is Jesus.

Only if you freely choose the tree of life will you become like gods and life forever.

This opinion does not come from scripture. Jesus said "Let the dead bury the dead". Doesn't really jive with the satanic public hippy image, does it? This is the problem - atheists and agnostics even have an incorrect image of Christ Jesus - just like many Christians. The Holy Spirit through John summarised

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. John 3:18[/ex]

ALREADY condemned. ALREADY condemned. Without repentance, there is NO FORGIVENESS of your sin. and trusting in Jesus.  Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness.  Without forgiveness, there is no salvation. Without salvation, there is only condemnation.

The world is condemned due to it's sin. This is what Our Creator declares. This entire age, from Christ's ministry on Earth until now under His Rule and Faith (which HOLDS BACK WRATH), has been about SALVATION. This is the good news of the gospel! Right now, mankind is nearly in full rebellion, throwing off what it perceives to be His tyrannical oppression. Why? Because man, knowing good and evil like God, will CHOOSE to define that good and evil as if he knows best....as if he's god. Man will redefine child murder as abortion and a right because he thinks that he knows best. Man will choose to genetically alter because he thinks that he knows best. Man, like Adam and Eve, put on fig leaves to hide their shame...they redefine evil as good to do the same. Relabeling child killing to "abortion" is just man's attempt to squelch the shame of their wicked act. Instead of turning to their Creator and asking for forgiveness, man hides from their creator and puts fig leaves on!

Man declares "I AM" and "MY WILL" to His Creator's face.

Every religion out there - occultism, Freemasonry, ufology, New Age, Islamic Shi'ites, etc etc are all declaring the serpents same words - that they can become gods through knowledge like science, and won't die. Wonder why? It tells you the time in which we live.

Man is in rebellion to His Creator. Understanding that the love of sin is what hardens our hearts towards our Creator perfectly explains why the western nations were flooded with sex, drugs and filth. We grew to love those things and the consequence? The rise of atheism and the rejection of Our Creator, and the rise of this "fake Jesus" that loves everyone no matter what they do! My Jesus said "GO AND SIN NO MORE"

Could it have been enchanting the other way? Enchanting in the way of making eve aware and teaching her how to return back to the source, not "God".

This opinion does not come from scripture. Jesus said "Let the dead bury the dead". Doesn't really jive with the satanic public hippy image, does it? This is the problem - atheists and agnostics even have an incorrect image of Christ Jesus - just like many Christians. The Holy Spirit through John summarised

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. John 3:18[/ex]

ALREADY condemned. ALREADY condemned. Without repentance, there is NO FORGIVENESS of your sin. and trusting in Jesus.  Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness.  Without forgiveness, there is no salvation. Without salvation, there is only condemnation.

The world is condemned due to it's sin. This is what Our Creator declares. This entire age, from Christ's ministry on Earth until now under His Rule and Faith (which HOLDS BACK WRATH), has been about SALVATION. This is the good news of the gospel! Right now, mankind is nearly in full rebellion, throwing off what it perceives to be His tyrannical oppression. Why? Because man, knowing good and evil like God, will CHOOSE to define that good and evil as if he knows best....as if he's god. Man will redefine child murder as abortion and a right because he thinks that he knows best. Man will choose to genetically alter because he thinks that he knows best. Man, like Adam and Eve, put on fig leaves to hide their shame...they redefine evil as good to do the same. Relabeling child killing to "abortion" is just man's attempt to squelch the shame of their wicked act. Instead of turning to their Creator and asking for forgiveness, man hides from their creator and puts fig leaves on!

Man declares "I AM" and "MY WILL" to His Creator's face.

Every religion out there - occultism, Freemasonry, ufology, New Age, Islamic Shi'ites, etc etc are all declaring the serpents same words - that they can become gods through knowledge like science, and won't die. Wonder why? It tells you the time in which we live.

Man is in rebellion to His Creator. Understanding that the love of sin is what hardens our hearts towards our Creator perfectly explains why the western nations were flooded with sex, drugs and filth. We grew to love those things and the consequence? The rise of atheism and the rejection of Our Creator, and the rise of this "fake Jesus" that loves everyone no matter what they do! My Jesus said "GO AND SIN NO MORE

I agree with lots you said and disagee with a little. but the ]"GO AND SIN NO MORE" is all that matters. Know and correct your error, it's not aout making errors, it's reconigizing and correcting the error instead of ignoring it and treating it as a friend.

Last Edited by Motion & Rest on 11/13/2012 12:49 AM