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Iraq Cancels then Reviews then Renegotiates then Reconsiders $4.2 Billion Russian Arms Deal...(all in one day)

 
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Iraq Cancels then Reviews then Renegotiates then Reconsiders $4.2 Billion Russian Arms Deal...(all in one day)
Baghdad cancelled a $4.2 billion (3.3 billion euro) weapons package with Russia on Saturday citing graft concerns, torpedoing a deal that would have made Moscow Iraq's biggest arms supplier after the US.


Cancellation of the deal, which had been announced when Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki led a delegation to Russia last month, is a setback for Moscow's attempts to firm up its slipping foothold in the Middle East and also throws into doubt efforts by Iraq to equip its armed forces.


"The deal was cancelled," Maliki's spokesman Ali Mussawi said.
"When Maliki returned from his trip to Russia, he had some suspicions of corruption, so he decided to review the whole deal... There is an investigation going on, on this."

[link to www.google.com]

BS BS BS - The most corrupt man in Iraq was concerned about Graft?

Looks like our man in Baghdad received the talk...

The talk went something like this...

Listen little bitch...Not only are you a little bitch, you are our little bitch....
Are you thinking about screwing us over? Why don't you look at this cell phone video.... (Then Sadr Sadr Sadr wafts in the background) Am I close?
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BBC Article... I think it's a little more honest re: why the deal was cancelled...

. . . The purchase - said to include attack helicopters and missiles - was only signed off in October. . .

One Russian military expert has suggested the that Iraqi authorities scuppered the Russian arms deal under pressure from Washington...

In early October, Mr Maliki said in a speech that he did not want Iraq to be "part of someone else's (arms) monopoly."

But he faced criticism from political opponents who questioned buying from Russia, when multiple deals with the US had been signed. . .


[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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Re: Iraq Cancels then Reviews then Renegotiates then Reconsiders $4.2 Billion Russian Arms Deal...(all in one day)
Smart man this Nuri al-Maliki
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Not cancelled, just under review


[link to rt.com]
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Not cancelled, just under review


[link to rt.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27421673


Both BBC & AFP used the word "cancelled" - not saying that the deals were actually cancelled....

But that was word both western sources used...
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Smart man this Nuri al-Maliki
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Not so fast.

Putin will make sure this deal takes place...
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Then there's this...

Here's what the Arab media is reporting -

The Iraqi defence minister has denied media reports that a $4.2bn package of arms deals with Russia was cancelled due to corruption concerns.

"The deal is going ahead," Saadun al-Dulaimi said at a press conference, following comments by Ali Mussawi, a senior adviser to the prime minister, who said the deal had been scrapped.

Dulaimi denied that there was corruption in the deal, and said the government had simply been late in providing details about the deal to an anti-corruption committee. . .

[link to www.aljazeera.com]

What's going on behind the scenes? Any ideas? Putin had his own cell phone video?
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Thanks for the pin.
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Very interesting... Thanks for the article! cool2
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Latest Version (5 Minutes ago)... From AP

The prime minister's spokesman, Ali al-Moussawi, said Saturday the proposed deal is now under review.

Iraq's acting defense minister, Saadoun al-Dulaimi, insisted no money has changed hands so far and says the existing proposal "has become meaningless." He says the government plans to renegotiate the deal, seeking better terms.

[link to www.google.com]
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Then there's this...

Iraq: Exxon Pulls Out, Russia Wants In

Iraq’s strategic effort to become the world’s leading oil producer has taken some bad knocks, with the defection of Exxon Mobil and other majors to independence-minded Kurdistan, and Wednesday’s expulsion of Turkey’s state oil outfit from an exploration deal.

But Russia seems more than ready to step in and fill the gap in foreign investment that Baghdad needs to rebuild and expand its oil and gas industry on which the country’s future depends.

China, eager to add Iraq’s oil to its ever-widening network of resource acquisitions in Africa and the Middle East, is also knocking on Baghdad’s door to take over production deals awarded largely to Western majors in 2009-10.

[link to www.energytribune.com]
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What about the Iraqi Dinar?
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I call BS cause Putin gets er done, always.
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This guys says the story is BS:


"Iraqi Prime Minister's spokesperson Ali Mussawi told RT that the deal hasn't been cancelled, it is simply under review. He also confirmed it was because of earlier allegations of corruption from the Iraqi side."


[link to rt.com]
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What about the Iraqi Dinar?
 Quoting: BANE 23722270


Leading to a revalue of their currency.
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I call BS cause Putin gets er done, always.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27447989


Please elaborate...

book
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I call BS cause Putin gets er done, always.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27447989


Please elaborate...

book
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26238410


Summary (from links above)

BBC & AFP (French news agency) reported the deal was cancelled...
Then RT (Russia) said it was simply under review...
Then AP (US) said its being renegotiated...

Elaboration -

Iraq is ruled by Shia. It has aligned itself w/ Syria & Iran (and thus Russia & China)... It signed a huge new arms deal w/ Russia as part of this re-alignment. It's also renegotiating oil deals (US out / Russia in)

BUT

US spent a lot of money to "liberate" Iraq to put the Shia in charge. The US put pressure on Iraq to cancel these deals.

Then something happened.... One government spokesman said the deals are cancelled. Then, deals were under review. Then, deals will be re-negotiated.

What happened? Russia (Putin) must have applied counter-pressure.

There's a power struggle going on in Iraq now... USA/Turkey/NATO on one side - Russia/China/Iran on the other.... And all of these inconsistent statements are just signs of who has landed the most recent punch....

Right now - re-negotiation - it's a draw (Russian ahead on points?)

But let me check Google...It may have changed in the last hour...

Upshot - He (or she) is saying Putin is going to win this battle...
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those Americans will find ways to always brick the deal

now after few months, you would see the Americans selling their arms to Iraq


this is about being an American jealous bastard and wanting to stop the arms from Russia to Iraq
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AP Updated its article again (12:28 ET) - Now the corruption angle is being played up (again) NEW Buzz word (Reconsidered)

Iraq is reconsidering plans to buy more than $4 billion in arms from Russia, officials said Saturday, throwing the proposed purchase into question just weeks after it was announced.

The turnaround follows the ouster of Russia's defense minister earlier this week, and allegations by Iraqi lawmakers and local media that the pending deal is tainted by graft. . .

The deal would have strengthened Russia's ties to oil-rich Iraq at a time when the ruling regime of longtime Mideast ally Syria risks falling in the country's civil war.

It now appears unlikely the sale will go through as previously planned.

[link to www.google.com]
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Baghdad cancelled a $4.2 billion (3.3 billion euro) weapons package with Russia on Saturday citing graft concerns, torpedoing a deal that would have made Moscow Iraq's biggest arms supplier after the US.


Cancellation of the deal, which had been announced when Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki led a delegation to Russia last month, is a setback for Moscow's attempts to firm up its slipping foothold in the Middle East and also throws into doubt efforts by Iraq to equip its armed forces.


"The deal was cancelled," Maliki's spokesman Ali Mussawi said.
"When Maliki returned from his trip to Russia, he had some suspicions of corruption, so he decided to review the whole deal... There is an investigation going on, on this."

[link to www.google.com]

BS BS BS - The most corrupt man in Iraq was concerned about Graft?

Looks like our man in Baghdad received the talk...

The talk went something like this...

Listen little bitch...Not only are you a little bitch, you are our little bitch....
Are you thinking about screwing us over? Why don't you look at this cell phone video.... (Then Sadr Sadr Sadr wafts in the background) Am I close?
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This is how I remember buying something in the United Arab Emirates.

How much?
This much
Thats too high
Deals off !!!
Ok , maybe the deals back on?
No, wait, not at that price
This price?
No deal !!!!
I'm walking away
This price then?
No,this price.
Impossible
I'll talk to the other vendor
DEAL!!!!!!!



And that was for a bottle of soda.
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Uh-oh! Reviews? Renegotiates? Reconsiders?
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Baghdad cancelled a $4.2 billion (3.3 billion euro) weapons package with Russia on Saturday citing graft concerns, torpedoing a deal that would have made Moscow Iraq's biggest arms supplier after the US.


Cancellation of the deal, which had been announced when Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki led a delegation to Russia last month, is a setback for Moscow's attempts to firm up its slipping foothold in the Middle East and also throws into doubt efforts by Iraq to equip its armed forces.


"The deal was cancelled," Maliki's spokesman Ali Mussawi said.
"When Maliki returned from his trip to Russia, he had some suspicions of corruption, so he decided to review the whole deal... There is an investigation going on, on this."

[link to www.google.com]

BS BS BS - The most corrupt man in Iraq was concerned about Graft?

Looks like our man in Baghdad received the talk...

The talk went something like this...

Listen little bitch...Not only are you a little bitch, you are our little bitch....
Are you thinking about screwing us over? Why don't you look at this cell phone video.... (Then Sadr Sadr Sadr wafts in the background) Am I close?
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Well written! :)

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