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If I own an egg, I can sell it for 10 cents
or a ten million dollars.
It's MY egg.
If you don't want to buy it, that is your right.

I saw that left-wing maggot Lis Wiehl on O'Reilly
almost foaming at her commie rat mouth over some
grocer charging 10 bucks for a gallon of milk.

She wanted the guy crucified.

I would have poured the milk over her left-wing
rat bastard head if she gave me any shit about it.
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So blind with rage. I guarantee that if you polled every Republican in the country that they would overwhelmingly agree with enforcing the existing laws on price gouging. You are a sad little man.
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The hypocrisy spewing from the government is almost unbelievable. Since when has big brother ever cared about the ethical price of anything. They pay TOP DOLLAR for every service and product they purchase. They encourage this in their policies, because it means more tax revenue kicked back to them. This in turn perpetuates their ability to pay TOP DOLLAR to their biggest lobbyists.
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So enforcing a standing law is now communism?
Taking advantage of allready suffering people is the right thing to do, as long as you make as much money as possible?

You, sir, are not a republican or democrat, you are a fool, just wait till nature hits you with a hammer and everything you own is blown to smithereens.
I bet you call yourself a christian, too?!
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Ahhhhhhh. So you're FOR enforcing law.

Given how the democraps want illegal alien laws unenforced, I'm completely confused by your hypocrisy.

Well maybe not. Dem's are hypocrites after all.
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This thread is the perfect example of how most people don't have a clue what communism is.
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You should know what it is, since you live in Canada.
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The one thing everyone forgets is the price paid by good men that have fought against communism and national socialism to keep this country from slipping into such a system. Now look at the USA. Because dumbfucks vote a communist into office!
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Stupid thread.

Yes of course the price went up. Due to the storm the spot price for gasoline in the northeast went up 40 cents on the market.

Therefor anything above a 40 cent rise in price was gouging.
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the obongo commie gov't would quote the communist manifesto
"From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his needs."
And force the distribution of the gas.
So enforcing a standing law is now communism?
Taking advantage of allready suffering people is the right thing to do, as long as you make as much money as possible?

You, sir, are not a republican or democrat, you are a fool, just wait till nature hits you with a hammer and everything you own is blown to smithereens.
I bet you call yourself a christian, too?!
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So what do the gas stations do next? They just shut down and tell you to fuck off when they're full of gas. The gas doesn't BELONG to you or anyone in the neighborhood but the station owner. Don't like it, don't buy it.
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US Infidelis
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The one thing everyone forgets is the price paid by good men that have fought against communism and national socialism to keep this country from slipping into such a system. Now look at the USA. Because dumbfucks vote a communist into office!
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ROFL

Fighting against the National Socialists is the reason we've got a problem with the Communists. Should have listened to General Patton.
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This thread is the perfect example of how most people don't have a clue what communism is.
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You should know what it is, since you live in Canada.
 Quoting: Babylon's Rebel


Real communism is an ugly thing. If you were faced with actual communism then you'd beg and/or kill to have what you have today in its place.

Tired of seeing commie this and commie that by a bunch of tards that don't know what the fuck they're talking about. I don't include you in that group necessarily as I'm pretty sure you already know this, pretty much acknowledging the exaggeration in the OP.
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I'm sick and tired of the blatant communism in this country. I'm tired of people with a Kindergarten-level understanding of economics and government (they call themselves Democrats) acting like they know what's best for everyone else. I'm tired of them pretending they're looking out for the little guy.

I bet if you made both political parties take IQ tests, the Democrats would score at least 30 points lower on average.

Am I promoting the Republican Party? No. They're just as bad, but in a slightly different way. The republicans are smarter, and want some good things, but they're deceived. Republican politicans lie, and pretend to be conservative, but they're not.

The democratic politicans don't have to lie or deceive anyone. They're just blatantly stupid, evil, and communistic.

Obviously there's some good in both party platforms. But not much. I'm exaggerating how bad things are because I'm venting.
 Quoting: Babylon's Rebel

You only prove you have no clue to economics, and you come with propaganda as if it were an education. I'm friends with PhDs in economics, who support the policies of Democrats as being far more realistic. Yet, to show how clearly ignorant you are, you call things communism which are not; you would, back in the day, be supporting Prince George over Washington because Washington was "communist," I'm sure. I mean, Washington was all about the people's army, the people's will, removal of religion as the dominating force of politics, removal of monarchs, you know, "commie" ideals.
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I'm sick and tired of the blatant communism in this country. I'm tired of people with a Kindergarten-level understanding of economics and government (they call themselves Democrats) acting like they know what's best for everyone else. I'm tired of them pretending they're looking out for the little guy.

I bet if you made both political parties take IQ tests, the Democrats would score at least 30 points lower on average.

Am I promoting the Republican Party? No. They're just as bad, but in a slightly different way. The republicans are smarter, and want some good things, but they're deceived. Republican politicans lie, and pretend to be conservative, but they're not.

The democratic politicans don't have to lie or deceive anyone. They're just blatantly stupid, evil, and communistic.

Obviously there's some good in both party platforms. But not much. I'm exaggerating how bad things are because I'm venting.
 Quoting: Babylon's Rebel

You only prove you have no clue to economics, and you come with propaganda as if it were an education. I'm friends with PhDs in economics, who support the policies of Democrats as being far more realistic. Yet, to show how clearly ignorant you are, you call things communism which are not; you would, back in the day, be supporting Prince George over Washington because Washington was "communist," I'm sure. I mean, Washington was all about the people's army, the people's will, removal of religion as the dominating force of politics, removal of monarchs, you know, "commie" ideals.
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I'm sick and tired of the blatant communism in this country. I'm tired of people with a Kindergarten-level understanding of economics and government (they call themselves Democrats) acting like they know what's best for everyone else. I'm tired of them pretending they're looking out for the little guy.

I bet if you made both political parties take IQ tests, the Democrats would score at least 30 points lower on average.

Am I promoting the Republican Party? No. They're just as bad, but in a slightly different way. The republicans are smarter, and want some good things, but they're deceived. Republican politicans lie, and pretend to be conservative, but they're not.

The democratic politicans don't have to lie or deceive anyone. They're just blatantly stupid, evil, and communistic.

Obviously there's some good in both party platforms. But not much. I'm exaggerating how bad things are because I'm venting.
 Quoting: Babylon's Rebel

You only prove you have no clue to economics, and you come with propaganda as if it were an education. I'm friends with PhDs in economics, who support the policies of Democrats as being far more realistic. Yet, to show how clearly ignorant you are, you call things communism which are not; you would, back in the day, be supporting Prince George over Washington because Washington was "communist," I'm sure. I mean, Washington was all about the people's army, the people's will, removal of religion as the dominating force of politics, removal of monarchs, you know, "commie" ideals.
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And you only prove that you have NO clue what I believe.

A PhD means shit. It means you've been given a stamp of approval by the NWO.

Complete government control over the prices and distribution of goods, with the mindset that the people have a RIGHT to control or take what someone else has (collective ownership vs. private property) IS communism.

I am in favor of the people, not a despot, ruling the nation, SO LONG AS THEY DO NOT INFRINGE ON ANYONE'S RIGHTS. Not even a majority vote should infringe upon a minority. I'm not in favor of despotism, or of mob-rule by the people. I'm in favor of individual rights, and personal and private property.

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I'm sick and tired of the blatant communism in this country. I'm tired of people with a Kindergarten-level understanding of economics and government (they call themselves Democrats) acting like they know what's best for everyone else. I'm tired of them pretending they're looking out for the little guy.

I bet if you made both political parties take IQ tests, the Democrats would score at least 30 points lower on average.

Am I promoting the Republican Party? No. They're just as bad, but in a slightly different way. The republicans are smarter, and want some good things, but they're deceived. Republican politicans lie, and pretend to be conservative, but they're not.

The democratic politicans don't have to lie or deceive anyone. They're just blatantly stupid, evil, and communistic.

Obviously there's some good in both party platforms. But not much. I'm exaggerating how bad things are because I'm venting.
 Quoting: Babylon's Rebel


WoW! What the hell were you thinking when you posted this..or better yet, what weren't you thinking. Free market trade is one thing, however raping people who can't even get to work in order to pay for "Normally" priced items is another. I am a believer of less government interfering, but there needs to be regulations in place for ALL things. If you think that living by Wasteland rules is the way to go, you are sadly mistaken.

As someone else posted..I'd like to see what you would do if disaster struck you and your community. I'm sure you'd be crying like an unpaid Hooker. Walk a mile in someone elses shoes before you make such an ignorant thread in the future.
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Like it or not, western economies are based on a very simple premise. Supply and Demand. A very sad thing to see these people in this situation, however, why were they not prepared for this? These folks had plenty of time to ready themselves. The businesses that "took advantage" of the storm victims are only doing what the big coorporations do every day,use the CAPITALIST system to their full advantage. The government has no right to step into this situation. They are only pandering to the media.
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Of course government has the right to do it. First of all, complete, unregulated free markets is not a part of the US system -- never has been, never will be. Even Adam Smith supports regulations! Second, the government is there for the common good, and to make sure systems are just. Free markets are not free when one person is a tyrant -- to be free, it must be as equals, which is not the case when one hoards everything and then abuses that hoarding in time of need. Third, fuck off worthless scumbags wanting to hurt Americans. FUCK OFF TRAITORS.
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The hypocrisy spewing from the government is almost unbelievable. Since when has big brother ever cared about the ethical price of anything. They pay TOP DOLLAR for every service and product they purchase. They encourage this in their policies, because it means more tax revenue kicked back to them. This in turn perpetuates their ability to pay TOP DOLLAR to their biggest lobbyists.
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Since always. It's always been a part of what government is about, even if it doesn't do it perfectly. This is a major clue of the dumbassery of people on GLP. They have no fucking clue to reality.
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I'm sick and tired of the blatant communism in this country. I'm tired of people with a Kindergarten-level understanding of economics and government (they call themselves Democrats) acting like they know what's best for everyone else. I'm tired of them pretending they're looking out for the little guy.

I bet if you made both political parties take IQ tests, the Democrats would score at least 30 points lower on average.

Am I promoting the Republican Party? No. They're just as bad, but in a slightly different way. The republicans are smarter, and want some good things, but they're deceived. Republican politicans lie, and pretend to be conservative, but they're not.

The democratic politicans don't have to lie or deceive anyone. They're just blatantly stupid, evil, and communistic.

Obviously there's some good in both party platforms. But not much. I'm exaggerating how bad things are because I'm venting.
 Quoting: Babylon's Rebel


Babylon's Rebel? Ever read what is to happen to Babylon The Great in the book of Revelation?
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Complete government control over the prices and distribution of goods, with the mindset that the people have a RIGHT to control or take what someone else has (collective ownership vs. private property) IS communism.
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Ok, but that is not even remotely close to what is happening here with price gouging laws.
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I'm sick and tired of the blatant communism in this country. I'm tired of people with a Kindergarten-level understanding of economics and government (they call themselves Democrats) acting like they know what's best for everyone else. I'm tired of them pretending they're looking out for the little guy.

I bet if you made both political parties take IQ tests, the Democrats would score at least 30 points lower on average.

Am I promoting the Republican Party? No. They're just as bad, but in a slightly different way. The republicans are smarter, and want some good things, but they're deceived. Republican politicans lie, and pretend to be conservative, but they're not.

The democratic politicans don't have to lie or deceive anyone. They're just blatantly stupid, evil, and communistic.

Obviously there's some good in both party platforms. But not much. I'm exaggerating how bad things are because I'm venting.
 Quoting: Babylon's Rebel

You only prove you have no clue to economics, and you come with propaganda as if it were an education. I'm friends with PhDs in economics, who support the policies of Democrats as being far more realistic. Yet, to show how clearly ignorant you are, you call things communism which are not; you would, back in the day, be supporting Prince George over Washington because Washington was "communist," I'm sure. I mean, Washington was all about the people's army, the people's will, removal of religion as the dominating force of politics, removal of monarchs, you know, "commie" ideals.
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And you only prove that you have NO clue what I believe.

A PhD means shit. It means you've been given a stamp of approval by the NWO.

Complete government control over the prices and distribution of goods, with the mindset that the people have a RIGHT to control or take what someone else has (collective ownership vs. private property) IS communism.

I am in favor of the people, not a despot, ruling the nation, SO LONG AS THEY DO NOT INFRINGE ON ANYONE'S RIGHTS. Not even a majority vote should infringe upon a minority. I'm not in favor of despotism, or of mob-rule by the people. I'm in favor of individual rights, and personal and private property.
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I love it. You say people know nothing about economics, but when they are shown to know something, you say it means shit. In other words, you are just an ideologue. Got it. Fucking owned. You are the one who has no knowledge of what you talk about, as can be seen through the use of the word, communism.

Oh, and btw, a monopoly (which easily develops without regulations) means people having to deal with it are not free. A monopoly is not communist, but the end product of unregulated capitalism (which is not the same thing as free markets, which, if you knew economics, you would know). Now, part of the role of government is to make sure there really ARE free markets by regulating things so to prevent the end of unregulated capitalism, the monopoly which demolishes freedom.
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I'm sick and tired of the blatant communism in this country. I'm tired of people with a Kindergarten-level understanding of economics and government (they call themselves Democrats) acting like they know what's best for everyone else. I'm tired of them pretending they're looking out for the little guy.

I bet if you made both political parties take IQ tests, the Democrats would score at least 30 points lower on average.

Am I promoting the Republican Party? No. They're just as bad, but in a slightly different way. The republicans are smarter, and want some good things, but they're deceived. Republican politicans lie, and pretend to be conservative, but they're not.

The democratic politicans don't have to lie or deceive anyone. They're just blatantly stupid, evil, and communistic.

Obviously there's some good in both party platforms. But not much. I'm exaggerating how bad things are because I'm venting.
 Quoting: Babylon's Rebel


WoW! What the hell were you thinking when you posted this..or better yet, what weren't you thinking. Free market trade is one thing, however raping people who can't even get to work in order to pay for "Normally" priced items is another. I am a believer of less government interfering, but there needs to be regulations in place for ALL things. If you think that living by Wasteland rules is the way to go, you are sadly mistaken.

As someone else posted..I'd like to see what you would do if disaster struck you and your community. I'm sure you'd be crying like an unpaid Hooker. Walk a mile in someone elses shoes before you make such an ignorant thread in the future.
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The problem is that when you give the government the power to regulate such things of which you speak, they go wild with it, and before you know it, the people become slaves to a totalitarian dictatorship.

You can't make exceptions when it comes to government. If you give them just a little, they will go miles with it. You set a precedent, and then one new bullshit law after another will keep getting passed until there's no freedom left.

If disaster strikes, and my family is in desperate circumstances, I don't all of the sudden possess the right to steal from my desperate neighbors, or force businesses to lower their prices for me. Hopefully people will be charitable voluntarily. If not, then too bad for me. I should have been more prepared. If people gouge, so what--it's their product. It's their personal property. If I use government to seize control of it for my own benefit, how am I any better? Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Free market trade can only exist with boundaries to define freedom: you need a stage in order to act, but when you remove the stage, you remove the place of action, and so you remove freedom.

Freedom only exists in relationship with a structure. Without structure, there is no freedom. Again, if you look at classical writings, you will see Adam Smith supported regulations.

So many confuse free market with capitalism, when they are not the same thing. Capitalism is a technique, and when followed, it destroys the market in the end.
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I'm sick and tired of the blatant communism in this country. I'm tired of people with a Kindergarten-level understanding of economics and government (they call themselves Democrats) acting like they know what's best for everyone else. I'm tired of them pretending they're looking out for the little guy.

I bet if you made both political parties take IQ tests, the Democrats would score at least 30 points lower on average.

Am I promoting the Republican Party? No. They're just as bad, but in a slightly different way. The republicans are smarter, and want some good things, but they're deceived. Republican politicans lie, and pretend to be conservative, but they're not.

The democratic politicans don't have to lie or deceive anyone. They're just blatantly stupid, evil, and communistic.

Obviously there's some good in both party platforms. But not much. I'm exaggerating how bad things are because I'm venting.
 Quoting: Babylon's Rebel


I guess if I owned a gas station in NJ I would limit my increase to 10% during a disaster, but I would likely close down well before I ran out of fuel, because one would be inundated with people just buying fuel. Gas stations don't make money on their fuel, but only on their food and drink items inside. The fuel is either sold at cost or even sometimes below cost, in order to get the convenience store business, so if you have a bunch of panicked citizens ONLY there to buy fuel, you're losing money. I don't blame these guys for increasing their prices. I wonder how the NJ AG would look upon a policy of requiring a purchase inside to even buy gas, that would be an idea, and would not necessarily require any price increases.
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Like it or not, western economies are based on a very simple premise. Supply and Demand. A very sad thing to see these people in this situation, however, why were they not prepared for this? These folks had plenty of time to ready themselves. The businesses that "took advantage" of the storm victims are only doing what the big coorporations do every day,use the CAPITALIST system to their full advantage. The government has no right to step into this situation. They are only pandering to the media.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13109120


Of course government has the right to do it. First of all, complete, unregulated free markets is not a part of the US system -- never has been, never will be. Even Adam Smith supports regulations! Second, the government is there for the common good, and to make sure systems are just. Free markets are not free when one person is a tyrant -- to be free, it must be as equals, which is not the case when one hoards everything and then abuses that hoarding in time of need. Third, fuck off worthless scumbags wanting to hurt Americans. FUCK OFF TRAITORS.
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I don't recall anyone saying they want to "hurt Americans" on this thread. I have all the sympathy in the world for those suffering through that disaster. I do not believe in completely unregulated free markets. There obviously has to be a balance. But Free does not translate to fair. Prepare YOURSELF and YOUR family and neighbors for situations like this and do NOT depend on the government to save you. It is at times like this that they will take away your FREEDOM in the guise of FAIRNESS.
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I'm sick and tired of the blatant communism in this country. I'm tired of people with a Kindergarten-level understanding of economics and government (they call themselves Democrats) acting like they know what's best for everyone else. I'm tired of them pretending they're looking out for the little guy.

I bet if you made both political parties take IQ tests, the Democrats would score at least 30 points lower on average.

Am I promoting the Republican Party? No. They're just as bad, but in a slightly different way. The republicans are smarter, and want some good things, but they're deceived. Republican politicans lie, and pretend to be conservative, but they're not.

The democratic politicans don't have to lie or deceive anyone. They're just blatantly stupid, evil, and communistic.

Obviously there's some good in both party platforms. But not much. I'm exaggerating how bad things are because I'm venting.
 Quoting: Babylon's Rebel


WoW! What the hell were you thinking when you posted this..or better yet, what weren't you thinking. Free market trade is one thing, however raping people who can't even get to work in order to pay for "Normally" priced items is another. I am a believer of less government interfering, but there needs to be regulations in place for ALL things. If you think that living by Wasteland rules is the way to go, you are sadly mistaken.

As someone else posted..I'd like to see what you would do if disaster struck you and your community. I'm sure you'd be crying like an unpaid Hooker. Walk a mile in someone elses shoes before you make such an ignorant thread in the future.
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The problem is that when you give the government the power to regulate such things of which you speak, they go wild with it, and before you know it, the people become slaves to a totalitarian dictatorship.

You can't make exceptions when it comes to government. If you give them just a little, they will go miles with it. You set a precedent, and then one new bullshit law after another will keep getting passed until there's no freedom left.

If disaster strikes, and my family is in desperate circumstances, I don't all of the sudden possess the right to steal from my desperate neighbors, or force businesses to lower their prices for me. Hopefully people will be charitable voluntarily. If not, then too bad for me. I should have been more prepared. If people gouge, so what--it's their product. It's their personal property. If I use government to seize control of it for my own benefit, how am I any better? Two wrongs don't make a right.
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The problem is without regulation and protection for the people, you have the tyranny of the monopoly which has no care or concern for people, but only the accounting books they possess. With governments, people are their concern. This will always limit the government, while capitalist entities will just be vampires, not giving anything back if it can find a way.
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dont talk on stuff you dont know shit about, you ignorant wimp.

you dont know what communism is. and if asked you couldnt define what it was. so shut the fuck up.

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I'm sick and tired of the blatant communism in this country. I'm tired of people with a Kindergarten-level understanding of economics and government (they call themselves Democrats) acting like they know what's best for everyone else. I'm tired of them pretending they're looking out for the little guy.

I bet if you made both political parties take IQ tests, the Democrats would score at least 30 points lower on average.

Am I promoting the Republican Party? No. They're just as bad, but in a slightly different way. The republicans are smarter, and want some good things, but they're deceived. Republican politicans lie, and pretend to be conservative, but they're not.

The democratic politicans don't have to lie or deceive anyone. They're just blatantly stupid, evil, and communistic.

Obviously there's some good in both party platforms. But not much. I'm exaggerating how bad things are because I'm venting.
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Furthermore, in a disaster, there are LIMITED supplies. If I have the funds to be essentially the highest bidder, I should have the right to buy what I need at whatever price. If I were waiting in a 20 car long line for gas, I would happily pay $1 more per gallon to go to the front of the line. The gas station owners should be allowed to basically auction off their gas. It's their property.
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I'm sick and tired of the blatant communism in this country. I'm tired of people with a Kindergarten-level understanding of economics and government (they call themselves Democrats) acting like they know what's best for everyone else. I'm tired of them pretending they're looking out for the little guy.

I bet if you made both political parties take IQ tests, the Democrats would score at least 30 points lower on average.

Am I promoting the Republican Party? No. They're just as bad, but in a slightly different way. The republicans are smarter, and want some good things, but they're deceived. Republican politicans lie, and pretend to be conservative, but they're not.

The democratic politicans don't have to lie or deceive anyone. They're just blatantly stupid, evil, and communistic.

Obviously there's some good in both party platforms. But not much. I'm exaggerating how bad things are because I'm venting.
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You only prove you have no clue to economics, and you come with propaganda as if it were an education. I'm friends with PhDs in economics, who support the policies of Democrats as being far more realistic. Yet, to show how clearly ignorant you are, you call things communism which are not; you would, back in the day, be supporting Prince George over Washington because Washington was "communist," I'm sure. I mean, Washington was all about the people's army, the people's will, removal of religion as the dominating force of politics, removal of monarchs, you know, "commie" ideals.
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And you only prove that you have NO clue what I believe.

A PhD means shit. It means you've been given a stamp of approval by the NWO.

Complete government control over the prices and distribution of goods, with the mindset that the people have a RIGHT to control or take what someone else has (collective ownership vs. private property) IS communism.

I am in favor of the people, not a despot, ruling the nation, SO LONG AS THEY DO NOT INFRINGE ON ANYONE'S RIGHTS. Not even a majority vote should infringe upon a minority. I'm not in favor of despotism, or of mob-rule by the people. I'm in favor of individual rights, and personal and private property.
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I love it. You say people know nothing about economics, but when they are shown to know something, you say it means shit. In other words, you are just an ideologue. Got it. Fucking owned. You are the one who has no knowledge of what you talk about, as can be seen through the use of the word, communism.

Oh, and btw, a monopoly (which easily develops without regulations) means people having to deal with it are not free. A monopoly is not communist, but the end product of unregulated capitalism (which is not the same thing as free markets, which, if you knew economics, you would know). Now, part of the role of government is to make sure there really ARE free markets by regulating things so to prevent the end of unregulated capitalism, the monopoly which demolishes freedom.
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The market should be regulated voluntarily by the consumers, not by the government. It takes a population of intelligent and wise consumers to prevent monopoly, and mass boycott to destroy a monopoly once its in place. We don't need the government to get involved.

But like I said, this approach requires an intelligent and caring populace, which is something we don't have, and hence our shitty system we live under. Government regulation has only made it worse, especially since the government usually inteferes only to help maintain monopolies rather than prevent them (politicians acting for the benefit of their corporate donors and lobbyists). Government regulation is the VERY REASON we have so much monopoly in this country.

Can you tell me that the medical and pharma industry monopolies are not the direct result of government regulation? Such regulations are in place to ensure the survival of those monopolies. Former executives from the largest corporations, as well as controlling stock holders, fill all of the key positions in those government regulatory bodies.
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If I own an egg, I can sell it for 10 cents
or a ten million dollars.
It's MY egg.
If you don't want to buy it, that is your right.

I saw that left-wing maggot Lis Wiehl on O'Reilly
almost foaming at her commie rat mouth over some
grocer charging 10 bucks for a gallon of milk.

She wanted the guy crucified.

I would have poured the milk over her left-wing
rat bastard head if she gave me any shit about it.
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So blind with rage. I guarantee that if you polled every Republican in the country that they would overwhelmingly agree with enforcing the existing laws on price gouging. You are a sad little man.
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^This^

Price gouging during an emergency situation is criminal as well as immoral.

Chasing the almighty dollar has brought down many a man.
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The government has no right to tell a business what prices they set on fuel or any other item for that matter. This is a perfect example of communism. The people should have stocked up when they knew the storm was coming, not wait until afterward. They had plenty of warning. If i was the business owners I would close my doors effective immediately and move my business out of State.

Some times you have to take a cut in profit to stand for something. If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything.
Fact are important, They should be presented first, opinions will vary.
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You only prove you have no clue to economics, and you come with propaganda as if it were an education. I'm friends with PhDs in economics, who support the policies of Democrats as being far more realistic. Yet, to show how clearly ignorant you are, you call things communism which are not; you would, back in the day, be supporting Prince George over Washington because Washington was "communist," I'm sure. I mean, Washington was all about the people's army, the people's will, removal of religion as the dominating force of politics, removal of monarchs, you know, "commie" ideals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13221383


And you only prove that you have NO clue what I believe.

A PhD means shit. It means you've been given a stamp of approval by the NWO.

Complete government control over the prices and distribution of goods, with the mindset that the people have a RIGHT to control or take what someone else has (collective ownership vs. private property) IS communism.

I am in favor of the people, not a despot, ruling the nation, SO LONG AS THEY DO NOT INFRINGE ON ANYONE'S RIGHTS. Not even a majority vote should infringe upon a minority. I'm not in favor of despotism, or of mob-rule by the people. I'm in favor of individual rights, and personal and private property.
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I love it. You say people know nothing about economics, but when they are shown to know something, you say it means shit. In other words, you are just an ideologue. Got it. Fucking owned. You are the one who has no knowledge of what you talk about, as can be seen through the use of the word, communism.

Oh, and btw, a monopoly (which easily develops without regulations) means people having to deal with it are not free. A monopoly is not communist, but the end product of unregulated capitalism (which is not the same thing as free markets, which, if you knew economics, you would know). Now, part of the role of government is to make sure there really ARE free markets by regulating things so to prevent the end of unregulated capitalism, the monopoly which demolishes freedom.
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The market should be regulated voluntarily by the consumers, not by the government. It takes a population of intelligent and wise consumers to prevent monopoly, and mass boycott to destroy a monopoly once its in place. We don't need the government to get involved.

But like I said, this approach requires an intelligent and caring populace, which is something we don't have, and hence our shitty system we live under. Government regulation has only made it worse, especially since the government usually inteferes only to help maintain monopolies rather than prevent them (politicians acting for the benefit of their corporate donors and lobbyists). Government regulation is the VERY REASON we have so much monopoly in this country.

Can you tell me that the medical and pharma industry monopolies are not the direct result of government regulation? Such regulations are in place to ensure the survival of those monopolies. Former executives from the largest corporations, as well as controlling stock holders, fill all of the key positions in those government regulatory bodies.
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Again, you show no understanding to economics. Consumers vs monopoly for something which is essential for life means the consumers cannot regulate anything. You still show yourself ignorant of economics, and what freedom itself is about. When one side controls everything at the table, the other has only the freedom of obedience or death; that is not true freedom.
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I'm sick and tired of the blatant communism in this country. I'm tired of people with a Kindergarten-level understanding of economics and government (they call themselves Democrats) acting like they know what's best for everyone else. I'm tired of them pretending they're looking out for the little guy.

I bet if you made both political parties take IQ tests, the Democrats would score at least 30 points lower on average.

Am I promoting the Republican Party? No. They're just as bad, but in a slightly different way. The republicans are smarter, and want some good things, but they're deceived. Republican politicans lie, and pretend to be conservative, but they're not.

The democratic politicans don't have to lie or deceive anyone. They're just blatantly stupid, evil, and communistic.

Obviously there's some good in both party platforms. But not much. I'm exaggerating how bad things are because I'm venting.
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WoW! What the hell were you thinking when you posted this..or better yet, what weren't you thinking. Free market trade is one thing, however raping people who can't even get to work in order to pay for "Normally" priced items is another. I am a believer of less government interfering, but there needs to be regulations in place for ALL things. If you think that living by Wasteland rules is the way to go, you are sadly mistaken.

As someone else posted..I'd like to see what you would do if disaster struck you and your community. I'm sure you'd be crying like an unpaid Hooker. Walk a mile in someone elses shoes before you make such an ignorant thread in the future.
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The problem is that when you give the government the power to regulate such things of which you speak, they go wild with it, and before you know it, the people become slaves to a totalitarian dictatorship.

You can't make exceptions when it comes to government. If you give them just a little, they will go miles with it. You set a precedent, and then one new bullshit law after another will keep getting passed until there's no freedom left.

If disaster strikes, and my family is in desperate circumstances, I don't all of the sudden possess the right to steal from my desperate neighbors, or force businesses to lower their prices for me. Hopefully people will be charitable voluntarily. If not, then too bad for me. I should have been more prepared. If people gouge, so what--it's their product. It's their personal property. If I use government to seize control of it for my own benefit, how am I any better? Two wrongs don't make a right.
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And that is the exact thinking as to why the East coast is now in the situation it is. ME ME ME. America was a great country when neighbors looked out for one another, cared about each others children and welfare. Fellow americans pitched in to help one another out in time of need. The change starts with YOUR mentallity towards other human beings. The Hotels, Gas stations, and other business will survive with or without raising prices. Supply and demand applies in non-disaster situations. America is lost, and anyone with an ounce of sense knows it. However, this is one situation I agree with enforced regulations.

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