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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13843864 United States 11/10/2012 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | unfortunately, there are many which are not in a position to use free will wisely, Quoting: andreidita Who are you to judge who should have free will or not? Until you have walked the full length of a Man's journey in life, born his hardships, felt his pain, endured with what he had been given, YOU have no right to judge them. Did you fashion a Man with YOUR hands? Did YOU breath YOUR life into them? Rather than be the one placing stones in the path of one using his own free will, why not be one to help him move the one's away that are already in his path? The only one who should EVER have his free will stripped, is the one who wants the free will of another to be limited. Don't you know, YOU are gods? No one wants to be restricted. It is innate to want to be free. It is how we were made. We all have unique talents which we were born with. That is all that divides us. These are not who we are though, but rather what gifts we were given by our common creator. With the freedom we were given and the talents bestowed on us, Oh what we could do, if we did it in celebration of the great gifts. With Love, Your Brother |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27473254 Brazil 11/10/2012 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your only choice is Believing in Jesus Christ and repenting from your sins. And even that wont be enough, because you have to change and addapt a package full of things. Keep commandments. Avoid sin. Love people. Be humble. Be charitable. There is a long list of things you need to know and change, IF YOU HAVE TIME. Everything else just means you made the wrong choice and the consequences will be the same. |
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andreidita (OP) User ID: 4637432 Romania 11/10/2012 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your only choice is Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27473254 Believing in Jesus Christ and repenting from your sins. And even that wont be enough, because you have to change and addapt a package full of things. Keep commandments. Avoid sin. Love people. Be humble. Be charitable. There is a long list of things you need to know and change, IF YOU HAVE TIME. Everything else just means you made the wrong choice and the consequences will be the same. i am pretty tired by your kind. You do not walk the path of Jesus Christ. you repeat like a parrot words that do not understand and ways that you do not practice. and this shows by the emanations that you spread with your words. you are not humble, you are not charitable. you enter into someone else space and spread your judgments and hate toward other human beings. that you do not know and do not bother to understand. but nevertheless you interfere. better watch for your own sins. and let others alone. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 11/10/2012 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i am pretty tired by your kind. You do not walk the path of Jesus Christ. Quoting: andreidita you repeat like a parrot words that do not understand and ways that you do not practice. and this shows by the emanations that you spread with your words. you are not humble, you are not charitable. you enter into someone else space and spread your judgments and hate toward other human beings. that you do not know and do not bother to understand. but nevertheless you interfere. better watch for your own sins. and let others alone. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
andreidita (OP) User ID: 4637432 Romania 11/10/2012 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do you have a list with concepts that have meaning? please share. contribute something constructive. not a meaningless phrase that does not add anything to nothing Last Edited by VenusRose on 11/10/2012 08:23 PM |
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andreidita (OP) User ID: 4637432 Romania 11/10/2012 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it does not preclude it. imagine on one hand a life full of joy, with everything taken care of, where you see your children grow etc but a life where you need to respect basic rules which are devised for your own good. like not being allowed to smoke. imagine on the other hand a life where you can decide everything you want to do according to your own spirit/consciousness. without any rules imposed upon you from outside. you have complete freedom to decide anything, but you incur full responsibility for your actions, for better or for worse. you start with free will. and you have to decide between these 2 paths. in first you renounce complete free will and get a fulfilled life according with your vision of 'good'. in the second you keep free-will, and you are fully responsible for everything you do. what do you choose? |
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andreidita (OP) User ID: 4637432 Romania 11/10/2012 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Keep commandments. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776 Avoid sin. Love people. Be humble. Be charitable. I am happy to follow these simple guidelines, because it is a pleasure to love just to see others happy. This causes a ripple effect. :) this shows how the same exact words can carry a totally different truth. for the simple fact that truth is demonstrated in life, in every action. and words can just express a truth lived. one who lives in charity, communicates in a charitable way with others. and so the words vibrate alive with the truth they express. otherwise, they are just dead signs which care upon them the stench of death and decay. but on the face of it, they can as well be exactly the same words |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27481875 United States 11/10/2012 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your only choice is Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27473254 Believing in Jesus Christ and repenting from your sins. And even that wont be enough, because you have to change and addapt a package full of things. Keep commandments. Avoid sin. Love people. Be humble. Be charitable. There is a long list of things you need to know and change, IF YOU HAVE TIME. Everything else just means you made the wrong choice and the consequences will be the same. I hear jesus cant save you now. |
andreidita (OP) User ID: 4637432 Romania 11/10/2012 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me, I choose freewill, because I already found my true self. Once there, you can never go back to the old ways, because it would be like a dog returning and eating his old vomit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776 and in this sense it is funny than at different points upon one's path there is only one correct answer. as you say once you find your true self, you can choose only free will. truly. and at the same time the outside rules, are already freely-chosen by your true self. on the other hand, one who still staggers with his own weaknesses, will readily say that he chooses free will, when in truth he would be well advised to choose the other option, and the weakness in him whispers in his ear to choose free will, such that he will continue in his weakness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23410367 Australia 11/10/2012 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Free will is a choice given by God to test your limitations...We have to learn to be humble above all the freedom we have and serve God... Quoting: nobody 362179 um...... your free? okay.... you just miss all of the invisible bars around you..... thats fine though.... its really hard to see them....... |
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izaak2 User ID: 1399896 United States 11/10/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me, I choose freewill, because I already found my true self. Once there, you can never go back to the old ways, because it would be like a dog returning and eating his old vomit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776 and in this sense it is funny than at different points upon one's path there is only one correct answer. as you say once you find your true self, you can choose only free will. truly. and at the same time the outside rules, are already freely-chosen by your true self. on the other hand, one who still staggers with his own weaknesses, will readily say that he chooses free will, when in truth he would be well advised to choose the other option, and the weakness in him whispers in his ear to choose free will, such that he will continue in his weakness. For me, I choose freewill, because I already found my true self. Once there, you can never go back to the old ways, because it would be like a dog returning and eating his old vomit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776 and in this sense it is funny than at different points upon one's path there is only one correct answer. as you say once you find your true self, you can choose only free will. truly. and at the same time the outside rules, are already freely-chosen by your true self. on the other hand, one who still staggers with his own weaknesses, will readily say that he chooses free will, when in truth he would be well advised to choose the other option, and the weakness in him whispers in his ear to choose free will, such that he will continue in his weakness. I see... |
andreidita (OP) User ID: 4637432 Romania 11/10/2012 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Free will is a choice given by God to test your limitations...We have to learn to be humble above all the freedom we have and serve God... Quoting: nobody 362179 um...... your free? okay.... you just miss all of the invisible bars around you..... thats fine though.... its really hard to see them....... is the bird free when it flies high into the sky? is the fish free when it swims deep into the ocean? is the spirit free when it journeys into the endless universe? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21617742 United States 11/10/2012 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | op sounds like patrick henry before the revolution. an interesting fact - only ONE of the signers of the US declaration of independence died of war wounds in the revolution. and, he was killed by one of his own men. but, they were a bunch of wealthy slave owners who liked to shout slogans along the lines of the op - give me liberty or give me death. why is this so hard for some? [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11223885 United States 11/10/2012 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | imo, the problem isn't free will vs. rules. choices posed in THIS vs. THAT - ONE or THE OTHER are the problem. choices like that attract and make extremism and extremists. Quoting: Neoanderthal Man op sounds like patrick henry before the revolution. an interesting fact - only ONE of the signers of the US declaration of independence died of war wounds in the revolution. and, he was killed by one of his own men. but, they were a bunch of wealthy slave owners who liked to shout slogans along the lines of the op - give me liberty or give me death. why is this so hard for some? [link to en.wikipedia.org] Why cant i hit the shade. |
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Ralph--a house dog User ID: 25802009 United States 11/10/2012 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it does not preclude it. imagine on one hand a life full of joy, with everything taken care of, where you see your children grow etc but a life where you need to respect basic rules which are devised for your own good. like not being allowed to smoke. imagine on the other hand a life where you can decide everything you want to do according to your own spirit/consciousness. without any rules imposed upon you from outside. you have complete freedom to decide anything, but you incur full responsibility for your actions, for better or for worse. you start with free will. and you have to decide between these 2 paths. in first you renounce complete free will and get a fulfilled life according with your vision of 'good'. in the second you keep free-will, and you are fully responsible for everything you do. what do you choose? Offhand and without thinking this through very clearly, I think a combination of both concepts would be my preference. One question about the first scenario: "you need to respect basic rules which are devised for your own good" ------ Who decides? "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas HIS NAME IS SETH RICH [link to biblicalselfdefense.com] [link to forum.1111ers.blog] Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein -'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose. You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do. |