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Safely Preserving eggs without a fridge.

 
Plenty Paws
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Safely Preserving eggs without a fridge.
Yes you can do this. Most people that keep their own hens know this. However those that do not have their own hens can still take advantage of store sale this way as well as helping with prepping.

Right now our local Aldi has eggs at .29 per dozen. But really who has room for 10 dz eggs in their fridge? Not only that but unprepared store bought eggs will go bad rapidly after the power goes down. If you would like to have a nice over easy egg out of your handy black iron skillet over an open fire when the world has a hiccup here is what you need to do.

The thing that keeps eggs from going bad on the shelf long term with out the use of refrigeration is what is called the bloom. This is a thin layer of coating that keep oxygen from penetrating the shell. When you wash an egg after the hen has laid it you wash that off. Don't wash fresh laid eggs until you are going to use them. Unwashed they will last on the self in a cool room for about 9 months.

Now store bought eggs are washed, so what you need to do is replace the bloom. The way you do this is with mineral oil (you will find this in the pharmacy section with the laxatives and such) You will need plastic gloves, DO NOT get the oil on you! This goes double for females.
Take your eggs out of the carton pour some oil in a dish then use a little oil to coat the ENTIRE egg. It does not have to be a thick coating but it must be ALL over. No tiny little spots missed. Then put your eggs little end down in your carton. Date the carton and gently flip it on to it's other side every month until you use it. You need to store it in a cool room, in the mid to upper 60's.

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I raised chicken and found this to be true. You can test how "good" an egg is by putting it in a bowl of water. A brand nw egg will sink and barely bounce. As the egg ages,air enters through pores in the shell. At about two weeks of refrigeration, it will bounce and stand on one end. Most store bought eggs areat least two weeks old. You should not use eggs that float outright. As air enters, so can bacteria. This is why hens avoid pooping on eggs. They will sometimes "hold it" for up to three weeks as they age. If you want details, google it. I could explain the phenomenon, but I am not feeling particularly articulate today.
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Very interesting!
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That does remind me. Those of you that will be buying your eggs from a store, look at the dates on the carton and try to the get the freshest eggs you can find.

Oh and eggs stored like this for any length of time are not good for whipping. They can be used for anything else but they don't whip worth a hoot.

If there is much interest in this sort of subject I will try to do a couple of topics a week maybe. And if there were to be interest I could maybe do some on herbs for like health care.
Perhaps something on Tawing hides.....

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Unwashed they will last on the self in a cool room for about 9 months.
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Are you sure about that? 9 months seems a long time. I don't think I would eat a 9 month old egg.

And anyway, why do eggs have a use-by date of only a few days if that's the case?
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Eggs don't need refrigeration. They'll last a bit longer there, sure. But travel the world and you will see most countries simply don't.
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That does remind me. Those of you that will be buying your eggs from a store, look at the dates on the carton and try to the get the freshest eggs you can find.

Oh and eggs stored like this for any length of time are not good for whipping. They can be used for anything else but they don't whip worth a hoot.

If there is much interest in this sort of subject I will try to do a couple of topics a week maybe. And if there were to be interest I could maybe do some on herbs for like health care.
Perhaps something on Tawing hides.....
 Quoting: Plenty Paws


Keep posting OP,I love to learn stuff,especially basics like this that are forgotten in modern society.
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They have a sell by date because ,,,for one some people throw food out based on the date and buy more. This makes more money for the big Ag corporations. For another eggs that do not have the protective coating do in fact go bad much much faster than eggs with a protective coating. And yes I am sure, in fact I have known them to keep longer than that. My family never put eggs in the fridge when I was growing up.

I could also post about storing eggs in "liquid glass" in a crock. However that is a bit more work and cost.

Do an online search for preserving eggs. You will find more than a few links to list how long an egg will store like this.
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I have 7 hens in my backyard. 3 New hampshire reds, 2 leghorn and 2 australorp. Personally I let my eggs sit in the kitchen and build up for a week. Then I wash them all with a small scrub brush. Let them air dry, then coat them completely with Olive oil. I have heard that any oil works, its a matter of your own taste. They must be stored at COOL temps. My own experiment with letting the eggs sit at room temp had them all ruined in 6 months. I would suggest storing them in a dark corner of the basement or some other similarly dark and cool area.
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Re: Safely Preserving eggs without a fridge.
Eggs don't need refrigeration. They'll last a bit longer there, sure. But travel the world and you will see most countries simply don't.
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By the way thanks for posting OP.
Recently I heard CNN was talking about throwing food out of the fridge after only four hours.... disgraceful.

Another method I might suggest, (though they won't be your typical egg anymore) is the 1000 year egg, or salted egg. Both Asian recipes that are in widespread use.

Don't knock it until you've tried it.
A properly preserved egg can apparently last 10 years.
Not too shabby.
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Yes kitchen counter temps would be way too high to keep them for very long. 64 or 65 with like a 70 75% humidity is ideal. So yes the cellar/basement is the best choice. I have never used Olive Oil for this. But then we never washed the fresh eggs until right when we were going to use them. We would put them in a bowl of water to "soak" and test for floating, then wash them an use them right then.
I might give olive oil a try. But I can buy bulk mineral oil through livestock supply cheaper. Though I do like to try things out for "In case" .
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Yes kitchen counter temps would be way too high to keep them for very long. 64 or 65 with like a 70 75% humidity is ideal. So yes the cellar/basement is the best choice. I have never used Olive Oil for this. But then we never washed the fresh eggs until right when we were going to use them. We would put them in a bowl of water to "soak" and test for floating, then wash them and use them right then.
I might give olive oil a try. But I can buy bulk mineral oil through livestock supply cheaper. Though I do like to try things out for "In case" .
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My computer and the site seem to be wonky today. I have never tried the 1,000 year eggs. I have had Balut. So I am up to try most things.
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Would this work for boiled eggs (putting oil on the skin after you have boiled them)? Or have they incorporated too much oxygen at that point?

Sometimes I'll boil up a dozen, then forget to eat all of them, so they go bad in the frig. Would be great to know how to preserve them longer.
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Re: Safely Preserving eggs without a fridge.
Would this work for boiled eggs (putting oil on the skin after you have boiled them)? Or have they incorporated too much oxygen at that point?

Sometimes I'll boil up a dozen, then forget to eat all of them, so they go bad in the frig. Would be great to know how to preserve them longer.
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I can not answer that at this time. I will do some tests but I do not think there has ever been such a thing as a left over boiled egg in my family. I mean not past a day or so. The love of deviled eggs, and sliced boiled egg sandwiches is such that if a dozen is done there is no way they would set around a week. Macaroni salad , fast egg salad, diced on a green salad. I think I need to go boil some eggs now :)

Though as many people as there are here on GLP I say there is a good chance someone here might have tried this out with boiled eggs.
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Re: Safely Preserving eggs without a fridge.
pickled boiled eggs last a very long time

shelled BTW

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What about pickled eggs? I've never had one but I've seen them stored in jars, but I don't know how long for.

And if you wash them, can you still taste the vinegar? I mean, does it soak into the egg so that the egg tastes like a pickle?
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dont the Chinese eat 1000 year old eggs-where the whites turn dark black with a normal yellow yolk
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Yeah, pickled eggs totally soak up the vinegar, and will taste that way. Now, I like pickles, and I do pickle my own cabbage and beans, but just not into pickled eggs. You may like them! It does preserve them and also gives you probiotics and Vitamin B, if they don't go through the whole hot canning process.
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Re: Safely Preserving eggs without a fridge.
pickled boiled eggs last a very long time

shelled BTW
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What about pickled eggs? I've never had one but I've seen them stored in jars, but I don't know how long for.

And if you wash them, can you still taste the vinegar? I mean, does it soak into the egg so that the egg tastes like a pickle?
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


I have never compared the storage time of shelled VS unshelled boiled eggs. Any body know the time on that?

Picked eggs, we canned our pickled eggs. I have seen them good at the 18 month mark on the shelf (last jar left) and I know they will stay good in the fridge for at least three weeks in the brine That is the longest i have seen them last with out being eaten). But no you can't wash the pickled flavor off. HOWEVER they are really great in dill tuna salad.
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Finally had to go look up a recipe for the Chinese eggs, which are made from Duck eggs.

[link to www.recipesource.com]

---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.02

Title: PRESERVED DUCK EGGS (THOUSAND YEAR OLD EGGS)
Categories: Eggs, Chinese
Yield: 12 servings

2 c Tea, very strong black
1/3 c Salt
2 c Ashes of pine wood
2 c Ashes of charcoal
2 c Fireplace ashes
1 c Lime*
12 Duck egg, fresh

*Available in garden stores and nurseries.

Combine tea, salt, ashes and lime. Using about 1/2 cup
per egg, thickly coat each egg completely with this
clay-like mixture. Line a large crock with garden soil
and carefully lay coated eggs on top. Cover with more
soil and place crock in a cool dark place. Allow to
cure for 100 days. To remove coating, scrape eggs and
rinse under running water to clean thoroughly. Crack
lightly and remove shells. The white of the egg will
appear a grayish, translucent color and have a
gelatinous texture. The yolk, when sliced, will be a
grayish-green color.

To serve, cut into wedges and serve with:

Sweet pickled scallions or any sweet pickled vegetable

Sauce of 2 tablespoons each vinegar, soy sauce and
rice wine and 1 tablespoon minced ginger root.

Preserved Ancient Eggs

These are often called thousand-year eggs, even
though the preserving process lasts only 100 days.
They may be purchased individually in Oriental markets.

The description of the whites turning grayish
isn't quite accurate from the ones I've seen. They're
more a dark blackish amber color-- quite attractive
actually.
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dont the Chinese eat 1000 year old eggs-where the whites turn dark black with a normal yellow yolk
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Yep, and they cost rather a lot to buy. Better to learn to make them.
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Yeah, pickled eggs totally soak up the vinegar, and will taste that way.
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Pity really. I can't imagine an egg tasting like vinegar.
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Re: Safely Preserving eggs without a fridge.
Unwashed they will last on the self in a cool room for about 9 months.
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Are you sure about that? 9 months seems a long time. I don't think I would eat a 9 month old egg.

And anyway, why do eggs have a use-by date of only a few days if that's the case?
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Try one a hundred years old.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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mineral oil (you will find this in the pharmacy section with the laxatives and such) You will need plastic gloves, DO NOT get the oil on you! This goes double for females.

 Quoting: Plenty Paws



Please explain this...
I used mineral oil all the time, I do not believe it has the ability to enter the skin.
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This is not safe, mineral oil is

Linked to Cancer
According to the National Toxicology Program, unrefined or mildly refined mineral oil is a known carcinogen due to the presence of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, which naturally occur in coal and petroleum. PAHs have been linked to various cancers, including scrotal, gastrointestinal, sinonasal, bladder and lung cancer. (reference 5) Mineral oil used for cosmetic purposes is highly refined to remove PAHs, but the U.S. Food and Drug Administration requires that some over-the-counter products containing mineral oil display a warning label. Consumer advocacy groups such as the Environmental Working Group advise exercising caution when using products containing mineral oil until more conclusive research is available.



Read more: [link to www.livestrong.com]

Use butter instead.


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Re: Safely Preserving eggs without a fridge.
Thanks a lot OP! Great info!

What do you mean by flipping the carton every month?

One month, right side up. Next month, upside down? Then right side up again?
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Re: Safely Preserving eggs without a fridge.
Unwashed they will last on the self in a cool room for about 9 months.
 Quoting: Plenty Paws




Are you sure about that? 9 months seems a long time. I don't think I would eat a 9 month old egg.

And anyway, why do eggs have a use-by date of only a few days if that's the case?
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Try one a hundred years old.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Kingman-Art



Wow I would never have thought it!

mineral oil (you will find this in the pharmacy section with the laxatives and such) You will need plastic gloves, DO NOT get the oil on you! This goes double for females.

 Quoting: Plenty Paws



Please explain this...
I used mineral oil all the time, I do not believe it has the ability to enter the skin.
 Quoting: El Tiburon



My great grandmother ( lived to 97) always told me to keep it off my skin. I did not question her so when we would have to say , tube a horse for colic. I would make sure to keep it off of me. Here is a link I found that
might explain it. [link to www.buzzle.com]

My grand mother used mineral oil when she would buy eggs sometimes. But then she also had a liquid glass crock. There was an "Egg house" near her so it was easier for her to buy there than keep hens like my great grandmother. But they washed the eggs so they had to be treated. And my great grand mother was forever telling me to keep my hands off the oiled eggs.

Thanks a lot OP! Great info!

What do you mean by flipping the carton every month?

One month, right side up. Next month, upside down? Then right side up again?
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It keeps the yolks from settling.
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That does remind me. Those of you that will be buying your eggs from a store, look at the dates on the carton and try to the get the freshest eggs you can find.

Oh and eggs stored like this for any length of time are not good for whipping. They can be used for anything else but they don't whip worth a hoot.

If there is much interest in this sort of subject I will try to do a couple of topics a week maybe. And if there were to be interest I could maybe do some on herbs for like health care.
Perhaps something on Tawing hides.....
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I am a clinical herbalist. I tried doing a thread taking questions about herbs and got a bane for my trouble.
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That does remind me. Those of you that will be buying your eggs from a store, look at the dates on the carton and try to the get the freshest eggs you can find.

Oh and eggs stored like this for any length of time are not good for whipping. They can be used for anything else but they don't whip worth a hoot.

If there is much interest in this sort of subject I will try to do a couple of topics a week maybe. And if there were to be interest I could maybe do some on herbs for like health care.
Perhaps something on Tawing hides.....
 Quoting: Plenty Paws


I am a clinical herbalist. I tried doing a thread taking questions about herbs and got a bane for my trouble.
 Quoting: Mycelium


Really? Wow. Did you do the mile long disclaimer before hand? I was not going to go in depth. More like simple things. Plantain, willow bark, skullcap, spoonwort. My great grandfather was a "cuny man" so it was a learn at the knee thing for us growing up. My great grandmother ( his wife) was a midwife ( now against the law in my state) so they kind of both had a lot of herbal stuff going on as well as some other things) What most now days would call folk lore or in some cases witch craft.

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