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Mycelium User ID: 17882166 United States 11/10/2012 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I raised chicken and found this to be true. You can test how "good" an egg is by putting it in a bowl of water. A brand nw egg will sink and barely bounce. As the egg ages,air enters through pores in the shell. At about two weeks of refrigeration, it will bounce and stand on one end. Most store bought eggs areat least two weeks old. You should not use eggs that float outright. As air enters, so can bacteria. This is why hens avoid pooping on eggs. They will sometimes "hold it" for up to three weeks as they age. If you want details, google it. I could explain the phenomenon, but I am not feeling particularly articulate today. |
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Plenty Paws (OP) User ID: 12412937 United States 11/10/2012 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That does remind me. Those of you that will be buying your eggs from a store, look at the dates on the carton and try to the get the freshest eggs you can find. Oh and eggs stored like this for any length of time are not good for whipping. They can be used for anything else but they don't whip worth a hoot. If there is much interest in this sort of subject I will try to do a couple of topics a week maybe. And if there were to be interest I could maybe do some on herbs for like health care. Perhaps something on Tawing hides..... Last Edited by Plenty Paws on 11/10/2012 02:29 PM |
Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 27454009 United Kingdom 11/10/2012 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you sure about that? 9 months seems a long time. I don't think I would eat a 9 month old egg. And anyway, why do eggs have a use-by date of only a few days if that's the case? The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3478828 United States 11/10/2012 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That does remind me. Those of you that will be buying your eggs from a store, look at the dates on the carton and try to the get the freshest eggs you can find. Quoting: Plenty Paws Oh and eggs stored like this for any length of time are not good for whipping. They can be used for anything else but they don't whip worth a hoot. If there is much interest in this sort of subject I will try to do a couple of topics a week maybe. And if there were to be interest I could maybe do some on herbs for like health care. Perhaps something on Tawing hides..... Keep posting OP,I love to learn stuff,especially basics like this that are forgotten in modern society. |
Plenty Paws (OP) User ID: 12412937 United States 11/10/2012 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have a sell by date because ,,,for one some people throw food out based on the date and buy more. This makes more money for the big Ag corporations. For another eggs that do not have the protective coating do in fact go bad much much faster than eggs with a protective coating. And yes I am sure, in fact I have known them to keep longer than that. My family never put eggs in the fridge when I was growing up. I could also post about storing eggs in "liquid glass" in a crock. However that is a bit more work and cost. Do an online search for preserving eggs. You will find more than a few links to list how long an egg will store like this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23955441 United States 11/10/2012 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have 7 hens in my backyard. 3 New hampshire reds, 2 leghorn and 2 australorp. Personally I let my eggs sit in the kitchen and build up for a week. Then I wash them all with a small scrub brush. Let them air dry, then coat them completely with Olive oil. I have heard that any oil works, its a matter of your own taste. They must be stored at COOL temps. My own experiment with letting the eggs sit at room temp had them all ruined in 6 months. I would suggest storing them in a dark corner of the basement or some other similarly dark and cool area. Blessings All |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24866361 Taiwan 11/10/2012 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eggs don't need refrigeration. They'll last a bit longer there, sure. But travel the world and you will see most countries simply don't. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24866361 By the way thanks for posting OP. Recently I heard CNN was talking about throwing food out of the fridge after only four hours.... disgraceful. Another method I might suggest, (though they won't be your typical egg anymore) is the 1000 year egg, or salted egg. Both Asian recipes that are in widespread use. Don't knock it until you've tried it. A properly preserved egg can apparently last 10 years. Not too shabby. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12412937 United States 11/10/2012 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I might give olive oil a try. But I can buy bulk mineral oil through livestock supply cheaper. Though I do like to try things out for "In case" . |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12412937 United States 11/10/2012 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes kitchen counter temps would be way too high to keep them for very long. 64 or 65 with like a 70 75% humidity is ideal. So yes the cellar/basement is the best choice. I have never used Olive Oil for this. But then we never washed the fresh eggs until right when we were going to use them. We would put them in a bowl of water to "soak" and test for floating, then wash them and use them right then. I might give olive oil a try. But I can buy bulk mineral oil through livestock supply cheaper. Though I do like to try things out for "In case" . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27460693 United States 11/10/2012 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would this work for boiled eggs (putting oil on the skin after you have boiled them)? Or have they incorporated too much oxygen at that point? Sometimes I'll boil up a dozen, then forget to eat all of them, so they go bad in the frig. Would be great to know how to preserve them longer. |
Plenty Paws (OP) User ID: 12412937 United States 11/10/2012 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would this work for boiled eggs (putting oil on the skin after you have boiled them)? Or have they incorporated too much oxygen at that point? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27460693 Sometimes I'll boil up a dozen, then forget to eat all of them, so they go bad in the frig. Would be great to know how to preserve them longer. I can not answer that at this time. I will do some tests but I do not think there has ever been such a thing as a left over boiled egg in my family. I mean not past a day or so. The love of deviled eggs, and sliced boiled egg sandwiches is such that if a dozen is done there is no way they would set around a week. Macaroni salad , fast egg salad, diced on a green salad. I think I need to go boil some eggs now :) Though as many people as there are here on GLP I say there is a good chance someone here might have tried this out with boiled eggs. |
Kirk User ID: 25384388 United States 11/10/2012 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pickled boiled eggs last a very long time shelled BTW Last Edited by Kirk on 11/10/2012 04:06 PM Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
Shoot straight Johnny User ID: 27465534 United Kingdom 11/10/2012 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about pickled eggs? I've never had one but I've seen them stored in jars, but I don't know how long for. And if you wash them, can you still taste the vinegar? I mean, does it soak into the egg so that the egg tastes like a pickle? The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27460693 United States 11/10/2012 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, pickled eggs totally soak up the vinegar, and will taste that way. Now, I like pickles, and I do pickle my own cabbage and beans, but just not into pickled eggs. You may like them! It does preserve them and also gives you probiotics and Vitamin B, if they don't go through the whole hot canning process. |
Plenty Paws (OP) User ID: 12412937 United States 11/10/2012 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about pickled eggs? I've never had one but I've seen them stored in jars, but I don't know how long for. Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny And if you wash them, can you still taste the vinegar? I mean, does it soak into the egg so that the egg tastes like a pickle? I have never compared the storage time of shelled VS unshelled boiled eggs. Any body know the time on that? Picked eggs, we canned our pickled eggs. I have seen them good at the 18 month mark on the shelf (last jar left) and I know they will stay good in the fridge for at least three weeks in the brine That is the longest i have seen them last with out being eaten). But no you can't wash the pickled flavor off. HOWEVER they are really great in dill tuna salad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27460693 United States 11/10/2012 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.recipesource.com] ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.02 Title: PRESERVED DUCK EGGS (THOUSAND YEAR OLD EGGS) Categories: Eggs, Chinese Yield: 12 servings 2 c Tea, very strong black 1/3 c Salt 2 c Ashes of pine wood 2 c Ashes of charcoal 2 c Fireplace ashes 1 c Lime* 12 Duck egg, fresh *Available in garden stores and nurseries. Combine tea, salt, ashes and lime. Using about 1/2 cup per egg, thickly coat each egg completely with this clay-like mixture. Line a large crock with garden soil and carefully lay coated eggs on top. Cover with more soil and place crock in a cool dark place. Allow to cure for 100 days. To remove coating, scrape eggs and rinse under running water to clean thoroughly. Crack lightly and remove shells. The white of the egg will appear a grayish, translucent color and have a gelatinous texture. The yolk, when sliced, will be a grayish-green color. To serve, cut into wedges and serve with: Sweet pickled scallions or any sweet pickled vegetable Sauce of 2 tablespoons each vinegar, soy sauce and rice wine and 1 tablespoon minced ginger root. Preserved Ancient Eggs These are often called thousand-year eggs, even though the preserving process lasts only 100 days. They may be purchased individually in Oriental markets. The description of the whites turning grayish isn't quite accurate from the ones I've seen. They're more a dark blackish amber color-- quite attractive actually. |
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Kingman-Art User ID: 21062817 United States 11/10/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you sure about that? 9 months seems a long time. I don't think I would eat a 9 month old egg. And anyway, why do eggs have a use-by date of only a few days if that's the case? Try one a hundred years old. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
El Tiburon User ID: 26857979 United States 11/10/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mineral oil (you will find this in the pharmacy section with the laxatives and such) You will need plastic gloves, DO NOT get the oil on you! This goes double for females. Quoting: Plenty Paws Please explain this... I used mineral oil all the time, I do not believe it has the ability to enter the skin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2178540 Ireland 11/10/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Linked to Cancer According to the National Toxicology Program, unrefined or mildly refined mineral oil is a known carcinogen due to the presence of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, which naturally occur in coal and petroleum. PAHs have been linked to various cancers, including scrotal, gastrointestinal, sinonasal, bladder and lung cancer. (reference 5) Mineral oil used for cosmetic purposes is highly refined to remove PAHs, but the U.S. Food and Drug Administration requires that some over-the-counter products containing mineral oil display a warning label. Consumer advocacy groups such as the Environmental Working Group advise exercising caution when using products containing mineral oil until more conclusive research is available. Read more: [link to www.livestrong.com] Use butter instead. |
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Plenty Paws (OP) User ID: 12412937 United States 11/10/2012 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you sure about that? 9 months seems a long time. I don't think I would eat a 9 month old egg. And anyway, why do eggs have a use-by date of only a few days if that's the case? Try one a hundred years old. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Wow I would never have thought it! mineral oil (you will find this in the pharmacy section with the laxatives and such) You will need plastic gloves, DO NOT get the oil on you! This goes double for females. Quoting: Plenty Paws Please explain this... I used mineral oil all the time, I do not believe it has the ability to enter the skin. My great grandmother ( lived to 97) always told me to keep it off my skin. I did not question her so when we would have to say , tube a horse for colic. I would make sure to keep it off of me. Here is a link I found that might explain it. [link to www.buzzle.com] My grand mother used mineral oil when she would buy eggs sometimes. But then she also had a liquid glass crock. There was an "Egg house" near her so it was easier for her to buy there than keep hens like my great grandmother. But they washed the eggs so they had to be treated. And my great grand mother was forever telling me to keep my hands off the oiled eggs. Thanks a lot OP! Great info! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27468040 What do you mean by flipping the carton every month? One month, right side up. Next month, upside down? Then right side up again? It keeps the yolks from settling. |
Mycelium User ID: 17882166 United States 11/10/2012 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That does remind me. Those of you that will be buying your eggs from a store, look at the dates on the carton and try to the get the freshest eggs you can find. Quoting: Plenty Paws Oh and eggs stored like this for any length of time are not good for whipping. They can be used for anything else but they don't whip worth a hoot. If there is much interest in this sort of subject I will try to do a couple of topics a week maybe. And if there were to be interest I could maybe do some on herbs for like health care. Perhaps something on Tawing hides..... I am a clinical herbalist. I tried doing a thread taking questions about herbs and got a bane for my trouble. |
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Plenty Paws (OP) User ID: 12412937 United States 11/10/2012 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That does remind me. Those of you that will be buying your eggs from a store, look at the dates on the carton and try to the get the freshest eggs you can find. Quoting: Plenty Paws Oh and eggs stored like this for any length of time are not good for whipping. They can be used for anything else but they don't whip worth a hoot. If there is much interest in this sort of subject I will try to do a couple of topics a week maybe. And if there were to be interest I could maybe do some on herbs for like health care. Perhaps something on Tawing hides..... I am a clinical herbalist. I tried doing a thread taking questions about herbs and got a bane for my trouble. Really? Wow. Did you do the mile long disclaimer before hand? I was not going to go in depth. More like simple things. Plantain, willow bark, skullcap, spoonwort. My great grandfather was a "cuny man" so it was a learn at the knee thing for us growing up. My great grandmother ( his wife) was a midwife ( now against the law in my state) so they kind of both had a lot of herbal stuff going on as well as some other things) What most now days would call folk lore or in some cases witch craft. |