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And then there is this...

There could be a good financial reason why Tampa socialite Jill Kelley blew the whistle on ex-CIA boss David Petraeus‘ affair with his biographer.

The story of the sexy tattletale’s takedown of master spy Petraeus is now worth millions!

And it so happens that social climber Jill and her oncologist hubby Scott Kelley owe millions to banks after the collapse of their real estate holdings in 2010, Gossip Extra has learned.

The Kelleys currently are the targets of at least four indebtedness lawsuits, and two foreclosures in Hillsborough County, according to court records.


[link to gossipextra.com]
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Haha - and she didn't even have to sleep with the guy.

Thanks for keeping us posted hf
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this has elements of the bigger picture. it's all bs. the only thing I don't get Darby is after years of the MSM not hashing out any real news. why are you befuddled at yet another fake bs story by the msm, the propaganda branch of the govt?

Thread: Batten down the hatches. CIVIL DOOM ON 11/12/12 - Patriots Take Back The Country

know what's scary. ask people who lived in communist russia, east germany or china. they will tell you what they are seeing here is exactly what they lived through back then.
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5a

Hey DD amongst all the hullabaloo nobody seems to remember the thread on 10/31 about Drudge about to out a sex scandel in the admin. I assume that this is what they were pointing at. If I am correct someone leaked this to Drudge rather than take it to the Pres. Now just who might that be someone who would profit from the outting but could get badly burned if the fire turned on them perhaps? Note the date on the Drudge thread is 7 days prior to the election itself. Ask yourself what politicians knew about this and yet failed to warn the Whitehouse but might profit (political party wise) from this hitting before the election. Interesting no.
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We know of 2 Republican Congressman who were called by the "shirtless" FBI agent... So the tip-off isn't surprising - Cantor hates Obama...

Why didn't Drudge run the story?

Has he suddenly developed journalistic integrity? Or was he afraid of Breitbart syndrome?

Also, there is the other sex scandal out there - the one mentioned in the NY Times advice column - my wife is having affair w/ official doing extremely important work - will that shoe ever drop?

I presume it's like state politics....everyone is getting laid....so there's always a reason when someone is exposed (a non-sexual issue that led to exposure) ...

If the issue is large enough - we made be headed for tabloid heaven...
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5a

Supposedly according to MSM the NYT letter and the facts included sound as if it was perhaps a close relation of Paula's. As for Drudge I assume that they didn't have the requisite confirmations to run with it. As regards slimey Cantor who knows. Probably when Drudge dropped it he thought twice about having to expose (what an awful picture) himself and possibly take a HIT.
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This story's got legs ...

Thread: Breaking: FBI Agents Raid the Home of Petraeus’ Mistress Paula Broadwell
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here's a link to BI story on FBI visit -

FBI spokeswoman Shelley Lynch tells CNN that FBI agents are at the North Carolina home of Paula Broadwell, the biographer and reported mistress of former CIA director David Petraeus

Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]

Also, a DC tweeter noted that Paula was on joint terrorism task force - meaning she worked directly with FBI...

From Editor of Atlantic Monthly (R/T NBC Andrea Mitchell)

Garance Franke-Ruta (@thegarance)
11/12/12, 10:13 PM
MT @mitchellreports: FBI searching Broadwell home says @PeteWilliamsNBC FBI says it's "consensual" not a raid part of wrapping up probe
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Great thread, lots of really good info. Thanks OP!
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New source for Paula's Benghazi CIA Jail story -

emptywheel (@emptywheel)
11/12/12, 10:14 PM
@nihonmama No. Broadwell cited Fox at DU, Arutz Sheva cited Broadwell. Turns out Fox reported prisoner details b4 Broadwell, but withdrew it

She was quoting FOXNews story....

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@nihonmama Fox withdrew the Oct 26 reporting of it.
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Cantor Reason P4 Forced to Resign...

Broadwell was interviewed the week of Oct. 21, and Petraeus was interviewed on Oct. 29. During his interview, he was told that he would not be charged and the FBI did not suggest that he resign, law enforcement officials said.

At some point during the summer, the Tampa FBI agent whom Kelley had first approached for help was taken off the investigation . . .he got in touch with the office of Rep. Dave Reichert (R-Wash.). Reichert passed the information on to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.).

“I was contacted by an F.B.I. employee concerned that sensitive, classified information may have been compromised and made certain Director Mueller was aware of these serious allegations and the potential risk to our national security,” Cantor said in a statement.

Cantor contacted FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III on Oct. 31, and a week later Clapper told Petraeus he needed to resign.

“I don’t know if it would have taken this course without Cantor,” a person close to the investigation said.


[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Well Valerie did say she wouldn't be getting some revenge. Guess she was serious about it.

We have been reduced to 3rd world status. Unbelievable.
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Updated Real Timeline (from Washington Post & NY Times)

Petraeus has affair...

Jill gets harassing e-mails & complains to FBI friend in May

Local FBI office investigates cyber-stalking...go through sender's e-mail & find out she is having affair with Petraeus. (Everything that's been released). It is extremely weak case but they proceed b/c of personal friendship btw. Jill & agent.

Petraeus warned - he ends affair in June/July (Affair ended 4 months ago)..It's all covered up (as it would be - no criminal conduct)

FBI Friend calls Republican congressman b/c national security issue is being covered up...

September - Paula interviewed by FBI. Paula is reported to be forthcoming. Paula voluntarily surrenders her computer to FBI. Classified material found on computer (but she has clearance & we don't know if information is old/new)

October 26th Paula says that CIA Station was secret detention center. Her source is Foxnews. Foxnews makes this report earlier on same day, but quickly withdraws it.

October 29th, Petraeus interviewed by FBI. Is reported to be forthcoming. He is told that no charges will be filed, no national security breaches uncovered...

October 30th Petraeus leaves country for Middle East trip

October 31st Eric Cantor contacts FBI Director

November 6th or 7th James Clapper tells P4 he must resign...
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Final Tidbit about Shirtless FBI Agent -

But the agent, who was not identified, continued to “nose around” about the case, and eventually his superiors “told him to stay the hell away from it, and he was not invited to briefings,” the official said.

Later, the agent became convinced — incorrectly, the official said — that the case had stalled. Because of his “worldview,” as the official put it, he suspected a politically motivated cover-up to protect President Obama. The agent alerted Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, who called the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, on Oct. 31 to tell him of the agent’s concerns.

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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Tonight we got the MSM spin - We are being led in the Republican dirty trick direction....

Couple of problems with this....

Petraeus is a Republican...

What do Republicans gain taking him down after election - or so near election (10/31) that it wouldn't make any difference?

The democratic "public affairs" people are working hard....but the official story is still load of CRAP...
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Everyone lawyering up...

Jill has hired Bill Clinton's impeachment lawyer & Monica Lewinsky's PR person.

[link to www.businessinsider.com]

How is she paying for them? Book deal?
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The sex scandal that brought down former Army general and CIA Director David Petraeus has expanded to engulf another senior official: Marine Corps Gen. John Allen, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan.

Allen, who is married, allegedly exchanged what’s being described as “inappropriate communication’’ — up to 30,000 pages of it — with Jill Kelley, the 37-year-old Tampa socialite who claims she received threatening emails from Petraeus’ mistress (and biographer) Paula Broadwell. Kelley reportedly approached the FBI with the alleged threats, kicking off the investigation that ultimately uncovered Petraeus’ affair with Broadwell and prompted the retired four-star general to resign from the CIA last week.

The shocking news of Allen’s alleged involvement in l’affair de Petraeus broke early Tuesday morning when Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, en route to Australia, released a statement to reporters in his entourage. Panetta said the FBI told him on Sunday that it was investigating Allen, who succeeded Petraeus as head of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan in July 2011 and has overseen the beginning of the America’s staged withdrawal from the conflict.

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Allen, a Marine, succeeded Petraeus as the top allied commander in Afghanistan in July 2011. He also served as Petraeus’s deputy when both generals led the military’s Tampa-based Central Command from 2008 until 2010.

The FBI first notified the Pentagon of its investigation into Allen’s communications with Kelley on Sunday evening, according to the senior defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details of the pending case....

The senior defense official said the voluminous collection of e-mails sent between Allen and Kelley occurred between 2010 and this year, but did not give details. The official also declined to say whether Allen sent or received any of the messages from his military or government e-mail accounts, or if classified material was compromised.


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This NY Times Article Came Out Before Allen Broke

Concern Grows Over Top Military Officers’ Ethics

Along with a steady diet of books on leadership and management, the reading list at military “charm schools” that groom officers for ascending to general or admiral includes an essay, “The Bathsheba Syndrome: The Ethical Failure of Successful Leaders,” that recalls the moral failure of the Old Testament’s King David, who ordered a soldier on a mission of certain death — solely for the chance to take his wife, Bathsheba.
The not-so-subtle message: Be careful out there, and act better.

Despite the warnings, a worrisomely large number of senior officers have been investigated and even fired for poor judgment, malfeasance and sexual improprieties or sexual violence — and that is just in the last year.

(Five Officers Discussed)

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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Idiots, this is benghazi cover up. Don't fall for these many stories and theories. Its about benghazi.
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This thread begins with a post saying the "new information" is BS...

There are several posts that explain why the revelations are BS (One even has BS flags)....

No one has disagreed with any of the BS calls...In fact, several have specifically said "this is not about an affair"

This is not about an affair. This is NOT about Benghazi.

This is far bigger than Benghazi...

Here are some of my threads for background (if you are interested)...The Mali thread is a good starting point...

Thread: Watch as it Develops - The Staged War Against Islamists in Northern Mali

Thread: Bani Walid Destroyed - 11/11/2012 - Militias Make Presidential House Call - He Won't Resign (Yet)
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I think this following information is getting closer to the truth. Check it out,

[link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: Roxi


This is huge. Aaron Klein, the author of the piece, is very credible. He has inside sources in the Middle East.

It would be a travesty if the truth about Benghazi doesn't get told.
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Instead, the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi served as a meeting place to coordinate aid for the rebel-led insurgencies in the Middle East, the security officials said.

But Stephens was there to inaugurate the opening of the American University. lol
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This thread begins with a post saying the "new information" is BS...

There are several posts that explain why the revelations are BS (One even has BS flags)....

No one has disagreed with any of the BS calls...In fact, several have specifically said "this is not about an affair"

This is not about an affair. This is NOT about Benghazi.

This is far bigger than Benghazi...

Here are some of my threads for background (if you are interested)...The Mali thread is a good starting point...

Thread: Watch as it Develops - The Staged War Against Islamists in Northern Mali

Thread: Bani Walid Destroyed - 11/11/2012 - Militias Make Presidential House Call - He Won't Resign (Yet)
 Quoting: DarbyDoom




I think this following information is getting closer to the truth. Check it out,

[link to www.wnd.com]
 Quoting: Roxi


This is huge. Aaron Klein, the author of the piece, is very credible. He has inside sources in the Middle East.

It would be a travesty if the truth about Benghazi doesn't get told.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


Instead, the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi served as a meeting place to coordinate aid for the rebel-led insurgencies in the Middle East, the security officials said.

But Stephens was there to inaugurate the opening of the American University. lol
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IF you are interested in Libya Consulate - Syria Rebels connection research Mahdi Al-Harati.

Irish Libyan Hamas Supporter. He shows up in Libya & commands Islamist Brigade w/ Former LIFG members.

Last November, break-in at his Irish home. Irish wife calls police & tells them $30k stolen. Police ask where money came from, and she says from the CIA.... He then denies it...

Then, he shows up in Syria commanding Rebel Brigade. Large numbers of Libyans in Syria ....

Here's an article on the denials

[link to www.irishtimes.com]

About same time as break-in, LIFG member & Libyan rebel Hakim Belhaj was arrested at Tripoli airport with large amount of cash. He was headed to Turkey on an important mission for Islam...
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Here's an article re: Belhaj's arrest at Tripoli airport & his connections to Syrian rebels...

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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In my opinion Allen and Petraeus were set up by an entity or entities who favor the military industrial complex and who stand to make a great deal of money by war mongering and possibly starting a prolonged intensified war in the Middle East!These two women have been recruited as spies.Both speak Arabic and are extremely attractive.Jill is from Lebanon apparently Christian and Paula has travelled all over the Middle East.She was getting her PhD from the University of London and of course had the West Point and Harvard connections.Thesr are the places where spies are recruited.Neither woman looks like a typical stay at home Mom.Both are married to physicians,Paula to an Interventional Radiologist who was also in the service and Jill to an Oncologist.Interestingly Monica Lewinskys Dad was a Radiation Oncologist.Both women are using high powered attorneys which is interesting as the second couple are deeply in debt.Well the answer is in here somewhere and Bengazi is a blip on the radar screen.Eric Cantors foreknowledge is interesting and I will say no more....
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It is in the news today that she broke up with him OP. He continually sent her emails even though she was gone. He stalked her basically after the fact. It is on the UK daily mail site right now, top news.

All in all he is much older than her and went after her, he knew better and did it anyhow. Plus there is some gossip that she is far from the only one.
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There were two versions of this story from the outset...

The liberal version was that she was the stalker...It was on Slate last night...

The conservative version was he was the stalker...It was on foxnews last night..

I've cited Washington Post & NY Times b/c, whatever you think of them, they are the papers of record for America's political & economic elite.

It's also known that ABC agency whistleblowers air their dirty laundry in the two official papers. When it's ABC agency disinformation, they usually use papers outside New York/DC (sometimes outside US) - so they don't look like the source...

The two versions may have been sloppy reporting BUT several people told me that they are symptoms of the war going on in DC right now. Some want Petraeus totally humiliated; others not so much...

Anyway, the Washington Post article (original post) discusses three FBI officials who were sources of their report. This means their version was provided by an official (but unnamed) source, and then confirmed by two other official (but unnamed) sources...

That's SOP for these types of stories. This is the official version of events. Doesn't mean that it's correct - but it is the official version right now...
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Very, very, very unusual for the FBI to comment about anything during an investigation.....only if there is an arrest (Brandon Mayfield) would you hear the Wen Ho Lee hysteria from the FBi....unidentified sources means: "we make shit up all the time".

Did you hear how the neocons took down Eliot Spitzer?

Did you know that one Inhanced Interrogation Technique is called SUBLIMINAL PROGRAMMING.....spooks can and will "create the fall from grace" and also make sure demonstrative evidence is preserved by someone which serves as the threat to create fear to control the victim.

If the victim fights it out in court.....he can lose and win the court's ruling......and this mind control program is never disclosed by those doing it: state secrets prevails over The Brady Ruling....and Brady material is never given to the target.

LYING BY OMISSION is supposed to be a crime but punk, lying, pussified hotdogs known as prosecutors....just don't have the guts to prosecute cops and low life's known as "contract surveillance".
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It is in the news today that she broke up with him OP. He continually sent her emails even though she was gone. He stalked her basically after the fact. It is on the UK daily mail site right now, top news.

All in all he is much older than her and went after her, he knew better and did it anyhow. Plus there is some gossip that she is far from the only one.
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There were two versions of this story from the outset...

The liberal version was that she was the stalker...It was on Slate last night...

The conservative version was he was the stalker...It was on foxnews last night..

I've cited Washington Post & NY Times b/c, whatever you think of them, they are the papers of record for America's political & economic elite.

It's also known that ABC agency whistleblowers air their dirty laundry in the two official papers. When it's ABC agency disinformation, they usually use papers outside New York/DC (sometimes outside US) - so they don't look like the source...

The two versions may have been sloppy reporting BUT several people told me that they are symptoms of the war going on in DC right now. Some want Petraeus totally humiliated; others not so much...

Anyway, the Washington Post article (original post) discusses three FBI officials who were sources of their report. This means their version was provided by an official (but unnamed) source, and then confirmed by two other official (but unnamed) sources...

That's SOP for these types of stories. This is the official version of events. Doesn't mean that it's correct - but it is the official version right now...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Very, very, very unusual for the FBI to comment about anything during an investigation.....only if there is an arrest (Brandon Mayfield) would you hear the Wen Ho Lee hysteria from the FBi....unidentified sources means: "we make shit up all the time".

Did you hear how the neocons took down Eliot Spitzer?

Did you know that one Inhanced Interrogation Technique is called SUBLIMINAL PROGRAMMING.....spooks can and will "create the fall from grace" and also make sure demonstrative evidence is preserved by someone which serves as the threat to create fear to control the victim.

If the victim fights it out in court.....he can lose and win the court's ruling......and this mind control program is never disclosed by those doing it: state secrets prevails over The Brady Ruling....and Brady material is never given to the target.

LYING BY OMISSION is supposed to be a crime but punk, lying, pussified hotdogs known as prosecutors....just don't have the guts to prosecute cops and low life's known as "contract surveillance".
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It is in the news today that she broke up with him OP. He continually sent her emails even though she was gone. He stalked her basically after the fact. It is on the UK daily mail site right now, top news.

All in all he is much older than her and went after her, he knew better and did it anyhow. Plus there is some gossip that she is far from the only one.
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There were two versions of this story from the outset...

The liberal version was that she was the stalker...It was on Slate last night...

The conservative version was he was the stalker...It was on foxnews last night..

I've cited Washington Post & NY Times b/c, whatever you think of them, they are the papers of record for America's political & economic elite.

It's also known that ABC agency whistleblowers air their dirty laundry in the two official papers. When it's ABC agency disinformation, they usually use papers outside New York/DC (sometimes outside US) - so they don't look like the source...

The two versions may have been sloppy reporting BUT several people told me that they are symptoms of the war going on in DC right now. Some want Petraeus totally humiliated; others not so much...

Anyway, the Washington Post article (original post) discusses three FBI officials who were sources of their report. This means their version was provided by an official (but unnamed) source, and then confirmed by two other official (but unnamed) sources...

That's SOP for these types of stories. This is the official version of events. Doesn't mean that it's correct - but it is the official version right now...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Very, very, very unusual for the FBI to comment about anything during an investigation.....only if there is an arrest (Brandon Mayfield) would you hear the Wen Ho Lee hysteria from the FBi....unidentified sources means: "we make shit up all the time".

Did you hear how the neocons took down Eliot Spitzer?

Did you know that one Inhanced Interrogation Technique is called SUBLIMINAL PROGRAMMING.....spooks can and will "create the fall from grace" and also make sure demonstrative evidence is preserved by someone which serves as the threat to create fear to control the victim.

If the victim fights it out in court.....he can lose and win the court's ruling......and this mind control program is never disclosed by those doing it: state secrets prevails over The Brady Ruling....and Brady material is never given to the target.

LYING BY OMISSION is supposed to be a crime but punk, lying, pussified hotdogs known as prosecutors....just don't have the guts to prosecute cops and low life's known as "contract surveillance".
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It is in the news today that she broke up with him OP. He continually sent her emails even though she was gone. He stalked her basically after the fact. It is on the UK daily mail site right now, top news.

All in all he is much older than her and went after her, he knew better and did it anyhow. Plus there is some gossip that she is far from the only one.
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There were two versions of this story from the outset...

The liberal version was that she was the stalker...It was on Slate last night...

The conservative version was he was the stalker...It was on foxnews last night..

I've cited Washington Post & NY Times b/c, whatever you think of them, they are the papers of record for America's political & economic elite.

It's also known that ABC agency whistleblowers air their dirty laundry in the two official papers. When it's ABC agency disinformation, they usually use papers outside New York/DC (sometimes outside US) - so they don't look like the source...

The two versions may have been sloppy reporting BUT several people told me that they are symptoms of the war going on in DC right now. Some want Petraeus totally humiliated; others not so much...

Anyway, the Washington Post article (original post) discusses three FBI officials who were sources of their report. This means their version was provided by an official (but unnamed) source, and then confirmed by two other official (but unnamed) sources...

That's SOP for these types of stories. This is the official version of events. Doesn't mean that it's correct - but it is the official version right now...
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Very, very, very unusual for the FBI to comment about anything during an investigation.....only if there is an arrest (Brandon Mayfield) would you hear the Wen Ho Lee hysteria from the FBi....unidentified sources means: "we make shit up all the time".

Did you hear how the neocons took down Eliot Spitzer?

Did you know that one Inhanced Interrogation Technique is called SUBLIMINAL PROGRAMMING.....spooks can and will "create the fall from grace" and also make sure demonstrative evidence is preserved by someone which serves as the threat to create fear to control the victim.

If the victim fights it out in court.....he can lose and win the court's ruling......and this mind control program is never disclosed by those doing it: state secrets prevails over The Brady Ruling....and Brady material is never given to the target.

LYING BY OMISSION is supposed to be a crime but punk, lying, pussified hotdogs known as prosecutors....just don't have the guts to prosecute cops and low life's known as "contract surveillance".
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Cantor Reason P4 Forced to Resign...

Broadwell was interviewed the week of Oct. 21, and Petraeus was interviewed on Oct. 29. During his interview, he was told that he would not be charged and the FBI did not suggest that he resign, law enforcement officials said.

At some point during the summer, the Tampa FBI agent whom Kelley had first approached for help was taken off the investigation . . .he got in touch with the office of Rep. Dave Reichert (R-Wash.). Reichert passed the information on to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.).

“I was contacted by an F.B.I. employee concerned that sensitive, classified information may have been compromised and made certain Director Mueller was aware of these serious allegations and the potential risk to our national security,” Cantor said in a statement.

Cantor contacted FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III on Oct. 31, and a week later Clapper told Petraeus he needed to resign.

“I don’t know if it would have taken this course without Cantor,” a person close to the investigation said.


[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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FBI agents DO NOT INITIATE INFO DUMPS WITH CONGRESS UNLESS MUELLER ORDERS IT......MUELLER is famous for being a micromanager of anything or everything....he'll take files home as he reads everything....Mueller will read 250 pages of reports over the weekend?....on special cases......when FBi talks to Congress...they use their liaison wi congress....not some goofy ass horn dog agent who grabbed a spook slut's tits one too many times.
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In my opinion Allen and Petraeus were set up by an entity or entities who favor the military industrial complex and who stand to make a great deal of money by war mongering and possibly starting a prolonged intensified war in the Middle East!These two women have been recruited as spies.Both speak Arabic and are extremely attractive.Jill is from Lebanon apparently Christian and Paula has travelled all over the Middle East.She was getting her PhD from the University of London and of course had the West Point and Harvard connections.Thesr are the places where spies are recruited.Neither woman looks like a typical stay at home Mom.Both are married to physicians,Paula to an Interventional Radiologist who was also in the service and Jill to an Oncologist.Interestingly Monica Lewinskys Dad was a Radiation Oncologist.Both women are using high powered attorneys which is interesting as the second couple are deeply in debt.Well the answer is in here somewhere and Bengazi is a blip on the radar screen.Eric Cantors foreknowledge is interesting and I will say no more....
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I'll add this...

Right now I have three take-aways....

1) If the story has national security implications, we don't get the facts, we get a "narrative" crafted by public affairs. As DC toilet paper is stamped Confidential FOUO, that means everything we get out of Washington is a manipulated story....

2) General Petraeus had an affair with a woman who was the a female younger version of himself (their similar backgrounds & the affair are uncontested). There was no criminal misconduct (uncontested).

3) What is contested/manipulated/being crafted as I type is why did we find out about it? The FBI has more buried bodies than Rome.... There are at least 5 possibilities being whispered about -

- it came out to cover up Benghazi - BS - Petraeus can still be made to testify...

- The disclosure is Republican dirty trick - Cantor did it...

- It came out b/c a change in policy is needed - to get rid of COIN you needed to knock down the man who literally wrote COIN

- It came out to so that a new man could take over at the CIA - possible Afghanistan connection...Either the man behind the drone war or the man behind our great success is Afghanistan in 1980s will take over - both or better suited for a no boots on the ground situation...

- Arab connections...Jill is seen as the Jezebel, but did one of those Arab officers at the Coalition village turn the Lebanese social climber into his own WMD? Do we know what Arab countries had visiting officers at CENTCOM in 2009/2010? Bet there were a couple of Arab princes there - they must have been quite appealing to Jill... Was she the real Mata Hari? Did all that intelligence training pay off - was Paula onto a real national security threat?

Time for my day job....
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In my opinion Allen and Petraeus were set up by an entity or entities who favor the military industrial complex and who stand to make a great deal of money by war mongering and possibly starting a prolonged intensified war in the Middle East!These two women have been recruited as spies.Both speak Arabic and are extremely attractive.Jill is from Lebanon apparently Christian and Paula has travelled all over the Middle East.She was getting her PhD from the University of London and of course had the West Point and Harvard connections.Thesr are the places where spies are recruited.Neither woman looks like a typical stay at home Mom.Both are married to physicians,Paula to an Interventional Radiologist who was also in the service and Jill to an Oncologist.Interestingly Monica Lewinskys Dad was a Radiation Oncologist.Both women are using high powered attorneys which is interesting as the second couple are deeply in debt.Well the answer is in here somewhere and Bengazi is a blip on the radar screen.Eric Cantors foreknowledge is interesting and I will say no more....
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I am bumping this post of mine because after a twenty minute hiatus it got BURIED by 4 very long and identical complex posts from an AC which I beleive was purposely done........I must have hit a nerve somewhere....
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Final Tidbit about Shirtless FBI Agent -

But the agent, who was not identified, continued to “nose around” about the case, and eventually his superiors “told him to stay the hell away from it, and he was not invited to briefings,” the official said.

Later, the agent became convinced — incorrectly, the official said — that the case had stalled. Because of his “worldview,” as the official put it, he suspected a politically motivated cover-up to protect President Obama. The agent alerted Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, who called the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, on Oct. 31 to tell him of the agent’s concerns.

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If this is true...Mueller would sick OPRAH on this agent for insubordination.....and contacting congress about a case....FBI is not allowed to gossip about case info...and ...FBI has jerkoffs to liaison wi Congress.....Mueller has not fired he agent...yet....like Mueller did to the San Diego FBi SAC who made a comment in.re. US Attorney LAM being politically neutralized in.re. Duke Cunningham....and unspoken untold avenue Lam was thought to be pursuing involving 9/11 prior knowledge wi focus on political donors like Wyle....Striate....and others tied to Pete Wilson....(hint: search Madcowmorning news.com for all reports that include "San Diego")
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The real Petraeus scandal

[link to www.salon.com]

But the real scandal is the way a complaint about cyber-stalking from a Tampa socialite unleashed the power of the modern surveillance state on Petraeus’ biographer and paramour, Paula Broadwell – and ultimately, ironically or not, on the top spook himself.

So all based on a handful of rather unremarkable emails sent to a woman fortunate enough to have a friend in the FBI, the FBI traced all of Broadwell’s physical locations, learned of all the accounts she uses, ended up reading all of her emails, investigated the identity of her anonymous lover (who turned out to be Petraeus), and then possibly read his emails as well. They dug around in all of this without any evidence of any real crime – at most, they had a case of “cyber-harassment” more benign than what regularly appears in my email inbox and that of countless of other people – and, in large part, without the need for any warrant from a court....

Once people get over the latest pageant of human frailty on display in the Petraeus story, maybe they’ll realize how much privacy we’ve all given up in the last decade, under both political parties. As Greenwald notes: “Having the career of the beloved CIA Director and the commanding general in Afghanistan instantly destroyed due to highly invasive and unwarranted electronic surveillance is almost enough to make one believe not only that there is a god, but that he is an ardent civil libertarian...
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This is from emptywheel...don't know who this lady is....but she's had amazing revelations thus far....

Here’s the first inkling of something Jim and I have been speculating about: that Jill Kelley may have some tie to intelligence, which led the FBI to take Paula Broadwell’s harassing emails to her more seriously.

A military officer who is a former member of Petraeus’s staff said Kelley was a “self-appointed” go-between for Central Command officers with Lebanese and other Middle Eastern government officials. She was a fixture at social and charity events involving Central Command officials in Tampa.

Add that to the news that DOD learned of General Allen’s emails with Kelley via his NATO command vetting. Why would FBI, in the course of such vetting, be reading Allen’s emails in the first place unless Kelley had become some kind of trigger? (Indeed, it may not be–or not just be–that some of the emails included flirtation.)

If Kelley had some tie with intelligence, then it would explain why the FBI investigated a catfight, particularly given Broadwell’s comments indicating close awareness of Petraeus’ location. And it would explain why this got escalated into a National Security concern so quickly. And it would explain why Kelley thinks she needs the assistance of Abbe Lowell.

Darby's addition - NY Times reported today that while in Afghanistan, Petraeus received multiple e-mails & texts from Jill Kelley per day....But they were all sent to his official accounts...All were reviewed by his staff members....They were not having an affair....

Why on earth would the supreme allied commander in Afghanistan be receiving multiple communications PER DAY from a doctor's wife in Tampa?

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