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Breaking !! BBC Director General Resigns

 
johnny conger
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11/10/2012 05:48 PM
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The government really is not in control of this, what ever happens now it is too late the horse has bolted, all they can do now is squirm and wriggle like the maggots they are...
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The government really is not in control of this, what ever happens now it is too late the horse has bolted, all they can do now is squirm and wriggle like the maggots they are...
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11/10/2012 05:56 PM
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Nasty business, Mc Alpine and the rest of the elite connected to this paedophile ring need to prove their innocence with a public trial and all victims should be protected by the police, the trouble is the police and judges cannot be trusted and masonic brothers within these ranks will do anything to keep these crimes covered. They have to, on pain of death.


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Get your facts right. The abuse victim has publicly said that Lord McAlpine was NOT the man who abused him. He therefore does not have to prove ANY innocence in a court of law because his totally innocent, according to the man who formerly accused him.
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My Lord!

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pleased to make your acquaintance!

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You are very welcome. If you want to know who abused Steve Messham, you should speak to a member of the family. This might prove a problem, as he is now dead.
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This whole this is a mess. First blame for covering up a story now for broadcasting a story. It is because he is high up, if it was the average job blogs, no one would give a damn.

Its a big farce!!!!
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all part of the charade old boy

get the popcorn in, put the kettle on, do yourself a cuppa and sit back and watch the fun unfold
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11/10/2012 05:58 PM
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Nasty business, Mc Alpine and the rest of the elite connected to this paedophile ring need to prove their innocence with a public trial and all victims should be protected by the police, the trouble is the police and judges cannot be trusted and masonic brothers within these ranks will do anything to keep these crimes covered. They have to, on pain of death.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19978600


Get your facts right. The abuse victim has publicly said that Lord McAlpine was NOT the man who abused him. He therefore does not have to prove ANY innocence in a court of law because his totally innocent, according to the man who formerly accused him.
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My Lord!

worship

pleased to make your acquaintance!

<<<<BACKS slowly out of the room!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26860799

You are very welcome. If you want to know who abused Steve Messham, you should speak to a member of the family. This might prove a problem, as he is now dead.
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not the cigar smoker himself?
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11/10/2012 06:18 PM
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Get your facts right. The abuse victim has publicly said that Lord McAlpine was NOT the man who abused him. He therefore does not have to prove ANY innocence in a court of law because his totally innocent, according to the man who formerly accused him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27468754


My Lord!

worship

pleased to make your acquaintance!

<<<<BACKS slowly out of the room!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26860799

You are very welcome. If you want to know who abused Steve Messham, you should speak to a member of the family. This might prove a problem, as he is now dead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27468754


not the cigar smoker himself?
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No. His brother:
[link to psalm79.files.wordpress.com]
Notice the resemblance.
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11/10/2012 06:30 PM
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Messham told the Waterhouse inquiry in 1997 that the McAlpine family member he believed to be his abuser was now dead. Lord McAlpine is alive and living in Italy, whilst Jimmie McAlpine died in 1991. He lived at Gerwyn Hall, where Messham said his abuse took place.
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11/10/2012 06:38 PM
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John Humphreys on Today completely crucified him yesterday!
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"Yesterday"?

That was this morning.
And it really was pretty brutal.
Such a public flaying that one does not come back from.
Tonight's resignation is no surprise.

Strangely enough,the BBC's Radio 4 broadcast 'Archive on 4: Who's Reithian Now?' at 8:00 p.m this evening, a study of the values of the first Director General, the massively-impressed-with-himself, dour, hypocritical, Scottish Calvinist prig, John Reith. It was thanks to him, apparently, that ever since its inception, employees at the BBC's Broadcasting House have had to stream in to work beneath what has been criticised as a frankly paedophilic statue representing, allegedly, Prospero and Arial, as conceived and executed by the depraved incestuous pervert, Eric Gill.

In these times of austerity, it would be no bad thing for the been to sell off that nasty piece of artwork: perhaps the Chapman Bros. could do the nation a massive favour by buying it to trash it?

Personally, I hope that whoever it was that got that Stephen Meesham Newsnight segment together will not go without a good, long,noisy fight. You can't see Patten there glowering without reading his thought bubbles -"Heads will f@cking roll!!" but why should they? The programme makers have performed a valuable public service in exposing the ripple effects of victimhood.
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11/10/2012 07:00 PM
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The Newsnight team made a fundamental, journalistic mistake. They did not check that the accusation by Messham stood up. If they had read the original report, their suspicions should have been raised. Here is a relevant passage:
2000 report on North Wales abuse
(B is Messham), who thought X was Lord McAlpine but is more likely to have been his brother Jimmie).

52.16 Similar difficulties arise about allegations made by witness B in a statement to the police, which he confirmed in part only when he gave oral evidence. The alleged abuser referred to by B, whom we will call X, has the surname of a well known and large non-Welsh family and he is said to be dead now. It has been suggested also (but not by B) that X was a friend or acquaintance of Howarth. According to B's statement to the police, X had several different motor cars and would wait for him at the bottom of Bryn Estyn Lane when he had a late pass. X would be accompanied by another paedophile now deceased and they would take B to various places. B alleged that he was buggered by X on four or five of these occasions, twice in the car in Moss Valley, once in the Crest Hotel at Wrexham and in the flat of Gary Cooke on the other occasions.

52.17 Witness B was, however, very reserved about these allegations when he gave oral evidence, saying that, after a particular press article had appeared, his house and his car had been destroyed and he had received numerous threats: he was not taking any chances any more. He said, for example, that he knew the christian name of X but that he was unwilling to disclose it. His recollection in the witness box was that he had seen X three times, including once at the Crest Hotel. X had a young man who was his driver and this man liked people to think he was a member of X's family. B was unable to say who had told him X's name.

52.18 Both Detective Superintendent Ackerley and Dean Nelson, a journalist to whom X had been mentioned, were asked about any further enquiries that they made to establish his identity. Ackerley said that it was difficult to identify which member of the family was being referred to: he never had anything tangible to get hold of. Nelson was more outspoken. He said that the name was mentioned to him but he never received any proper allegation about X. He added: "So far as I was concerned the X thing was a distraction. I wasn't looking into X and I never heard anything that made me think I should".

In other words, X was dead by the time the report was made, so it could NOT have been Lord McAlpine. His brother died in 1991, nine years before the report was published.

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