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Ann Coulter vs. the Jesuits at Fordham: A college invite is rescinded

 
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Ann Coulter vs. the Jesuits at Fordham: A college invite is rescinded
[link to blogs.ajc.com] 11/10/2012
Coulter was invited to [Jesuit-run] Fordham University in New York to speak on Nov. 29 by the College Republicans.

The planned appearance triggered protests and a student petition. A group of students argued that tuition should not be used to underwrite speakers at the private college who are “not compatible with the values the Fordham community professes – particularly the Jesuit tenet of ‘Men and Women for and With Others’.”

See what you think of Fordham President Joseph M. McShane’s response and of the decision Friday night by the Fordham College Republicans to cancel Coulter’s appearance.

First, [Jesuit] Father McShane’s statement:

"The College Republicans, a student club at Fordham University, has invited Ann Coulter to speak on campus on November 29. The event is funded through student activity fees and is not open to the public nor the media. Student groups are allowed, and encouraged, to invite speakers who represent diverse, and sometimes unpopular, points of view, in keeping with the canons of academic freedom. Accordingly, the University will not block the College Republicans from hosting their speaker of choice on campus.

To say that I am disappointed with the judgment and maturity of the College Republicans, however, would be a tremendous understatement. There are many people who can speak to the conservative point of view with integrity and conviction, but Ms. Coulter is not among them. Her rhetoric is often hateful and needlessly provocative — more heat than light — and her message is aimed squarely at the darker side of our nature.

As members of a Jesuit institution, we are called upon to deal with one another with civility and compassion, not to sling mud and impugn the motives of those with whom we disagree or to engage in racial or social stereotyping. In the wake of several bias incidents last spring, I told the University community that I hold out great contempt for anyone who would intentionally inflict pain on another human being because of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or creed.

“Disgust” was the word I used to sum up my feelings about those incidents. Hate speech, name-calling, and incivility are completely at odds with the Jesuit ideals that have always guided and animated Fordham.

Still, to prohibit Ms. Coulter from speaking at Fordham would be to do greater violence to the academy, and to the Jesuit tradition of fearless and robust engagement. Preventing Ms. Coulter from speaking would counter one wrong with another. The old saw goes that the answer to bad speech is more speech. This is especially true at a university, and I fully expect our students, faculty, alumni, parents, and staff to voice their opposition, civilly and respectfully, and forcefully.

The College Republicans have unwittingly provided Fordham with a test of its character: do we abandon our ideals in the face of repugnant speech and seek to stifle Ms. Coulter’s (and the student organizers’) opinions, or do we use her appearance as an opportunity to prove that our ideas are better and our faith in the academy — and one another — stronger? We have chosen the latter course, confident in our community and in the power of decency and reason to overcome hatred and prejudice.

Joseph M. McShane, S.J., President"

From the College Republicans late Friday:

"The College Republicans regret the controversy surrounding our planned lecture featuring Ann Coulter. The size and severity of opposition to this event have caught us by surprise and caused us to question our decision to welcome her to Rose Hill. Looking at the concerns raised about Ms. Coulter, many of them reasonable, we have determined that some of her comments do not represent the ideals of the College Republicans and are inconsistent with both our organization’s mission and the University’s. We regret that we failed to thoroughly research her before announcing; that is our error and we do not excuse ourselves for it. Consistent with our strong disagreement with certain comments by Ms. Coulter, we have chosen to cancel the event and rescind Ms. Coulter’s invitation to speak at Fordham.

We made this choice freely before Father McShane’s email was sent out and we became aware of his feelings – had the President simply reached out to us before releasing his statement, he would have learned that the event was being cancelled. We hope the University community will forgive the College Republicans for our error and continue to allow us to serve as its main voice of the sensible, compassionate, and conservative political movement that we strive to be. We fell short of that standard this time, and we offer our sincere apologies."
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University Statement on Ann Coulter Appearance
[link to www.fordham.edu] 11/10/2012
"Late yesterday, Fordham received word that the College Republicans, a student club at the University, has rescinded its lecture invitation to Ann Coulter.

Allow me to give credit where it is due: the leadership of the College Republicans acted quickly, took responsibility for their decisions, and expressed their regrets sincerely and eloquently. Most gratifying, I believe, is that they framed their decision in light of Fordham’s mission and values. There can be no finer testament to the value of a Fordham education and the caliber of our students.

Yesterday I wrote that the College Republicans provided Fordham with a test of its character. They, the University community, and our extended Fordham family passed the test with flying colors, engaging in impassioned but overwhelmingly civil debate on politics, academic freedom, and freedom of speech.

We can all be proud of Fordham today, and I am proud to serve you.

Joseph M. McShane, S.J., President"
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Her rhetoric is often hateful and needlessly provocative — more heat than light — and her message is aimed squarely at the darker side of our nature.


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I agree with that statement. I just find it odd coming from a Jesuit. If anybody could appreciate pandering to the darker side of our nature surely it must be the followers of the black pope, Loyola.
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Her rhetoric is often hateful and needlessly provocative — more heat than light — and her message is aimed squarely at the darker side of our nature.
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I agree with that statement. I just find it odd coming from a Jesuit. If anybody could appreciate pandering to the darker side of our nature surely it must be the followers of the black pope, Loyola.
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"Lucas has hinted that the Jedi were modelled loosely on the Jesuits"
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"One could argue they [the Jedi] are the Jesuits of this world. These are the people who are the truth-bearers, who are the priesthood of freedom and who give their lives in order to stop evil."
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Ann was always for Romney. Romney isn't Chritian but maybe
Tuesday's vote, this fraud and Mitt's suffering will help him to convert.
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I myself attended Fordham and, in fact, earned two degrees from that university.

However, even as far back as the 1970s when I attended it was infested with nasty, nasty, horribly hypocritical Jesuit professors who made no secret of their contempt for students who held what today would be termed non-"politically correct" views, as they wallowed in their cozy, cloistered campus lives -- and, frequently enough, in its surrounding watering holes -- militantly advocating the most clueless, disastrous knee-jerk liberal/left policies.

As a consequence, I have never given a dime to Fordham while, in contrast, I'm a regular financial contributor to the fine -- and unashamedly Catholic -- high school which I attended.
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The political Jesuits are political
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Her rhetoric is often hateful and needlessly provocative — more heat than light — and her message is aimed squarely at the darker side of our nature.


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I agree with that statement. I just find it odd coming from a Jesuit. If anybody could appreciate pandering to the darker side of our nature surely it must be the followers of the black pope, Loyola.
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Gotta love the Jesuits...right? The TIPPY TOP of the entire EVIL PYRAMID...

SAMPLE piece of the Extreme Oath of the Jesuit:

"You have been taught to insidiously plant the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace. To take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with which you might be connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justifies the means."
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