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Why your houses door opens to the inside.

 
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snow_door
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That about sums this thread up.
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You aren't paying attention. That opening still has a screen door that opens out. I'm in MN. I have read about people climbing out their windows in the past to get outside. No one has ever died because the snow trapped them in their house.
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Agreed. But from a 'day to day' convenience aspect - most home doors open in. Look at your front or main door - it probably opens in. Imagine if it didn't. Just sayin'
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When crowds rush a door that opens in, it can't be opened. The average family is 4.3 people. Only a house with 7 extended families of Mexicans or Pakis living in it would have that problem.
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Correct,this is why commercial doors must open out. I'm stating that a outward opening door on your house is more secure than a inward opening door. It is a SHTF thing. Turn your doors around if your going to down.
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its because solid wood doors would need to have hinge pin on outside if they opened outward. making them vulnerable.

the doors that open inward have the hinge pin on the inside.

but public buildings need to have doors that open outward so hoards of rushing people can open the door when pressed up against it.

its just more expensive to have a door that opens outwards and has hidden pins.
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your right op IT IS SO THEY CAN GET IN ...

its fire regulations , iff you are all over come with smoke , they are gona have trouble getting in . hense doors open inwards
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When crowds rush a door that opens in, it can't be opened. The average family is 4.3 people. Only a house with 7 extended families of Mexicans or Pakis living in it would have that problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27409139


Correct,this is why commercial doors must open out. I'm stating that a outward opening door on your house is more secure than a inward opening door. It is a SHTF thing. Turn your doors around if your going to down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


its not secure if i can pull the hinge pins out.
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When crowds rush a door that opens in, it can't be opened. The average family is 4.3 people. Only a house with 7 extended families of Mexicans or Pakis living in it would have that problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27409139


Correct,this is why commercial doors must open out. I'm stating that a outward opening door on your house is more secure than a inward opening door. It is a SHTF thing. Turn your doors around if your going to bunker down.
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^Fixed^
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:snow_door:
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


That about sums this thread up.
 Quoting: amachiavellian


You aren't paying attention. That opening still has a screen door that opens out. I'm in MN. I have read about people climbing out their windows in the past to get outside. No one has ever died because the snow trapped them in their house.
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Wrong. I have to dig my neighbor out all the time. He gets 4-5 foot drifts blown in up against the only door in or out of his apartmenteverytime we have a snow storm. He's too old and too fat to crawl through a window. If there was ever a fire during a blizard... I guarantee he would perish.
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When crowds rush a door that opens in, it can't be opened. The average family is 4.3 people. Only a house with 7 extended families of Mexicans or Pakis living in it would have that problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27409139


Correct,this is why commercial doors must open out. I'm stating that a outward opening door on your house is more secure than a inward opening door. It is a SHTF thing. Turn your doors around if your going to down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


its not secure if i can pull the hinge pins out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27471655


There are hinges made that the pins can't be pulled. Hinges can also be wielded so they can't be pulled.

Why do people always look for a reason why something can't happen?
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:snow_door:
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


That about sums this thread up.
 Quoting: amachiavellian


You aren't paying attention. That opening still has a screen door that opens out. I'm in MN. I have read about people climbing out their windows in the past to get outside. No one has ever died because the snow trapped them in their house.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


Agreed. But from a 'day to day' convenience aspect - most home doors open in. Look at your front or main door - it probably opens in. Imagine if it didn't. Just sayin'
 Quoting: amachiavellian


Yep... that's what happens to my neighbor. Only now there's a storm door he has to remember to open up everytime there's a blizzard.
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When crowds rush a door that opens in, it can't be opened. The average family is 4.3 people. Only a house with 7 extended families of Mexicans or Pakis living in it would have that problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27409139


Correct,this is why commercial doors must open out. I'm stating that a outward opening door on your house is more secure than a inward opening door. It is a SHTF thing. Turn your doors around if your going to down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


its not secure if i can pull the hinge pins out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27471655


There are hinges made that the pins can't be pulled. Hinges can also be wielded so they can't be pulled.

Why do people always look for a reason why something can't happen?
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i have a cordless angle grinder here that would cut the pin out of a hinge in a few seconds if you left it on the outside of a door frame because the door opened outwards.

..otherwise there is nothing to debate, your suggesting people turn their doors around instead of simply reinforcing them (if at all needed, or any help)..
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:snow_door:
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


That about sums this thread up.
 Quoting: amachiavellian


You aren't paying attention. That opening still has a screen door that opens out. I'm in MN. I have read about people climbing out their windows in the past to get outside. No one has ever died because the snow trapped them in their house.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


Wrong. I have to dig my neighbor out all the time. He gets 4-5 foot drifts blown in up against the only door in or out of his apartmenteverytime we have a snow storm. He's too old and too fat to crawl through a window. If there was ever a fire during a blizard... I guarantee he would perish.
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Well that example is pure Darwinism in action. Lets put rules on society to cater for the people that have no bounders to their health. Every house must be able to sustain a 500 lbs person that can no longer walk because their legs muscles are too weak to carry them.
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If you are running a business your door must swing to the outside,this is for fire safety. On your private house the door must open to the inside. Why? It is easier to break down an inter opening door. You must live in an house that TPTB minions have no trouble getting into when they want to. Just sayin.
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So the cops can kick it down easier silly.
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11/10/2012 06:32 PM
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A few years ago I installed steal behind the jamb anchored with with half inch dove tail ten inches long with a half inch steal strike plate welded to it...sure you can kick it in eventualy but not before you become a high speed small projectile interceptor..
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When crowds rush a door that opens in, it can't be opened. The average family is 4.3 people. Only a house with 7 extended families of Mexicans or Pakis living in it would have that problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27409139


Correct,this is why commercial doors must open out. I'm stating that a outward opening door on your house is more secure than a inward opening door. It is a SHTF thing. Turn your doors around if your going to bunker down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


^Fixed^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


If somebody wants in bad enough to kick in your door it won't matter which way it's facing. If I really want to get you in a SHTF situation I'll just throw a molotov on the roof and wait for the flames to drive you out. Or I'll drive a car up your front porch and cave in the whole front side of the place.

Your house is only going to save you from the undetermined slacker rioter, and only if you have the capability to repel them and hold them beyond throwing distance with rifle fire. The door action will have little to do with it. In fact the front door will probably be your most important firing port. I would leave 8 or 10 sand bags you can quickly stack in the open doorway next to the door.
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11/10/2012 06:33 PM
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Re: Why your houses door opens to the inside.
Probably building code for residential structures in case fire/emergency crews need to enter.
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Correct,this is why commercial doors must open out. I'm stating that a outward opening door on your house is more secure than a inward opening door. It is a SHTF thing. Turn your doors around if your going to down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


its not secure if i can pull the hinge pins out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27471655


There are hinges made that the pins can't be pulled. Hinges can also be wielded so they can't be pulled.

Why do people always look for a reason why something can't happen?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


i have a cordless angle grinder here that would cut the pin out of a hinge in a few seconds if you left it on the outside of a door frame because the door opened outwards.

..otherwise there is nothing to debate, your suggesting people turn their doors around instead of simply reinforcing them (if at all needed, or any help)..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27471655


I have a 4x4 truck I can just drive through your wall to get inside of your house. All I am saying is to make it harder. If men can tunnel through a mountain,they can get onto your house.
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its not secure if i can pull the hinge pins out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27471655


There are hinges made that the pins can't be pulled. Hinges can also be wielded so they can't be pulled.

Why do people always look for a reason why something can't happen?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


i have a cordless angle grinder here that would cut the pin out of a hinge in a few seconds if you left it on the outside of a door frame because the door opened outwards.

..otherwise there is nothing to debate, your suggesting people turn their doors around instead of simply reinforcing them (if at all needed, or any help)..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27471655


I have a 4x4 truck I can just drive through your wall to get inside of your house. All I am saying is to make it harder. If men can tunnel through a mountain,they can get onto your house.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


5ft thick minimum stone walls?
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When crowds rush a door that opens in, it can't be opened. The average family is 4.3 people. Only a house with 7 extended families of Mexicans or Pakis living in it would have that problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27409139


Correct,this is why commercial doors must open out. I'm stating that a outward opening door on your house is more secure than a inward opening door. It is a SHTF thing. Turn your doors around if your going to bunker down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


^Fixed^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


If somebody wants in bad enough to kick in your door it won't matter which way it's facing. If I really want to get you in a SHTF situation I'll just throw a molotov on the roof and wait for the flames to drive you out. Or I'll drive a car up your front porch and cave in the whole front side of the place.

Your house is only going to save you from the undetermined slacker rioter, and only if you have the capability to repel them and hold them beyond throwing distance with rifle fire. The door action will have little to do with it. In fact the front door will probably be your most important firing port. I would leave 8 or 10 sand bags you can quickly stack in the open doorway next to the door.
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You are correct. Locks only deter honest people,and they are not a threat. I'm just trying to make it harder for in-honest people. Seconds can be the difference between life and death.
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There are hinges made that the pins can't be pulled. Hinges can also be wielded so they can't be pulled.

Why do people always look for a reason why something can't happen?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


i have a cordless angle grinder here that would cut the pin out of a hinge in a few seconds if you left it on the outside of a door frame because the door opened outwards.

..otherwise there is nothing to debate, your suggesting people turn their doors around instead of simply reinforcing them (if at all needed, or any help)..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27471655


I have a 4x4 truck I can just drive through your wall to get inside of your house. All I am saying is to make it harder. If men can tunnel through a mountain,they can get onto your house.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


5ft thick minimum stone walls?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27471655


Surrounded with a moat full of alligators and sharks wearing lasers. We be gettin 23rd century mid evil on their asses.
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This simple little thread gave me a flash back to something I heard decades ago. A winner finds a solution for any problem,a loser finds a problem with ant solution. I don't believe that saying is all inclusive,but lets not doing anything because it isn't perfect.
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A outer opening door can have both sides plus the top and bottom reinforced and overlapped by wood or metal. Much harder to kick in.
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How about pulling it open?
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If you are running a business your door must swing to the outside,this is for fire safety. On your private house the door must open to the inside. Why? It is easier to break down an inter opening door. You must live in an house that TPTB minions have no trouble getting into when they want to. Just sayin.
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Op,

Think snow, I once owned a house in Maine that had exterior screens that opened out and after three foot of snow fell, I had to take a shovel and crawl out a window it was not fun. Safety issues are a factor as a door swinging out can hit an unsuspecting person passing by and you are incorrect pushing door shut against an intruder is easier than pulling it closed.
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If you are running a business your door must swing to the outside,this is for fire safety. On your private house the door must open to the inside. Why? It is easier to break down an inter opening door. You must live in an house that TPTB minions have no trouble getting into when they want to. Just sayin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


Op,

Think snow, I once owned a house in Maine that had exterior screens that opened out and after three foot of snow fell, I had to take a shovel and crawl out a window it was not fun. Safety issues are a factor as a door swinging out can hit an unsuspecting person passing by and you are incorrect pushing door shut against an intruder is easier than pulling it closed.
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Houses have two doors. Usually snow built up is because of wind blown snow drifts,one door might be covered but the other one isn't. If you open a door just because someone knocks on it,you are getting what you asked for. A foot stuck in a door opening will keep the door open wither it opens in or out.
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A outer opening door can have both sides plus the top and bottom reinforced and overlapped by wood or metal. Much harder to kick in.
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How about pulling it open?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27339405


Yes,there is no safe structure given time and the determination of the foe. I am only trying to give the occupant a fighting edge in a world gone cray scenario.
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A outer opening door can have both sides plus the top and bottom reinforced and overlapped by wood or metal. Much harder to kick in.
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How about pulling it open?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27339405


Yes,there is no safe structure given time and the determination of the foe. I am only trying to give the occupant a fighting edge in a world gone crazy scenario.
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^Fixed^
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I think this is because most of us also have storm doors. The doors need to open different directions or they would always be banging into each other (plus you probably wouldn't be able to get the second door open if they both opened the same direction - think about it). Therefore, the inner door opens in and the storm door opens out.
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I think this is because most of us also have storm doors. The doors need to open different directions or they would always be banging into each other (plus you probably wouldn't be able to get the second door open if they both opened the same direction - think about it). Therefore, the inner door opens in and the storm door opens out.
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This is true. The most secure storm doors have nothing to do with storms. They are cast iron doors with bars and a dead bolt. Mostly found in southern California.
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If you are running a business your door must swing to the outside,this is for fire safety. On your private house the door must open to the inside. Why? It is easier to break down an inter opening door. You must live in an house that TPTB minions have no trouble getting into when they want to. Just sayin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27472495


Op,

Think snow, I once owned a house in Maine that had exterior screens that opened out and after three foot of snow fell, I had to take a shovel and crawl out a window it was not fun. Safety issues are a factor as a door swinging out can hit an unsuspecting person passing by and you are incorrect pushing door shut against an intruder is easier than pulling it closed.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Houses have two doors. Usually snow built up is because of wind blown snow drifts,one door might be covered but the other one isn't. If you open a door just because someone knocks on it,you are getting what you asked for. A foot stuck in a door opening will keep the door open wither it opens in or out.
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I clearly stated that three foot of snow against any door opening outwards would successfully eliminate any chances of opening the door and this scenario is easily provable many areas receive three foot of snow without wind drifts.

For the love of might if you open your door without looking through the peephole or CCTV cameras in my case and many others you are a fool as knowing who or what is on the other side empowers you to decide upon opening the door and closing an open door inwards is far easier.
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