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What would happen if the people of the world went to war with the banking cartels?

 
Ninja G
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What would happen if the people of the world went to war with the banking cartels?
This is purely a mental exercise
Just a hypothetical scenario I've been contemplating.

It seems like the biggest threat facing the world today isn't terrorism, it's the economic warfare being waged by bankers. In antiquity people made conquest with swords and fire for tribal superiority, in modern history nations waged war with machines for nationalistic ideals, and now while war still exists, it is mostly just a kind of leverage used in a bigger economic conquest where a few families who have no national loyalties are consolidating all the resources and power for themselves with the intent to exterminate most of humanity in order to insure their own genetic line has the power/resources to rule until such a time as technology allows them to become immortal.

The planet has limited resources, selfish genes seek their own replication and the elimination of rival genes. Technology requires those limited resources to progress. It's a logical conclusion that they would want to reduce the number of consumers of those resources so that they have enough resources over a long enough period of time to achieve that primary goal of perpetuating their genetic line indefinitely.

discuss...
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no replies huh... givedamn
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Re: What would happen if the people of the world went to war with the banking cartels?
This will never happen because too many, especially here, are bamboozled and played into petty spite, vindictiveness, and resent the poor struggling to survive.
The elite will pit the middle against the poor, and FOR the corporate elite exploiters. They will bait, propagandize, and manipulate the populace against one another, fighting over crumbs while they steal the cake.
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They would pay out 1 trillion dollars and have a 20 million man army... with money you can do whatever you want.
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We would need alot of rope and lamp posts.
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Re: What would happen if the people of the world went to war with the banking cartels?
yes I recall a quote something like "The rich can always pay half of the poor to kill the other half of the poor for them"

It seems obvious to me that the minions are expendable fodder and will also be eliminated in the end game. Compartmentalized as they are they may not see this bigger picture. Most fail to see the long term implications, focusing only on immediate gratification. Police doing their jobs to feed their families etc. Oppressing the people who protest and the minorities just as the SS did in Nazi germany.

I always liked the movie Fight Club where Tyler Durden kidnaps the police commissioner and tells him "we cook your meals, we clean your clothes, we guard you while you sleep, do NOT fuck with us."

As much as they hate our existence, they need us, or at least some of us. Enough of us to protect them from the rest of us who would fight back in self defense as they work to exterminate us.
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there would be no change
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I sincerely doubt that is true. If you mean that others would simply fill the power vacuum and become the new banksters, maybe. But if the people had already risen up to dethrone the previous banksters then it would be a very dangerous thing to attempt to retake that throne anytime soon.
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Re: What would happen if the people of the world went to war with the banking cartels?
This is purely a mental exercise
Just a hypothetical scenario I've been contemplating.

It seems like the biggest threat facing the world today isn't terrorism, it's the economic warfare being waged by bankers. In antiquity people made conquest with swords and fire for tribal superiority, in modern history nations waged war with machines for nationalistic ideals, and now while war still exists, it is mostly just a kind of leverage used in a bigger economic conquest where a few families who have no national loyalties are consolidating all the resources and power for themselves with the intent to exterminate most of humanity in order to insure their own genetic line has the power/resources to rule until such a time as technology allows them to become immortal.

The planet has limited resources, selfish genes seek their own replication and the elimination of rival genes. Technology requires those limited resources to progress. It's a logical conclusion that they would want to reduce the number of consumers of those resources so that they have enough resources over a long enough period of time to achieve that primary goal of perpetuating their genetic line indefinitely.

discuss...
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I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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lol. I have no newsletter but thank you for the stars.

I just want to take what tidbits of information I can glean from the world around me and condense it and filter it through logic and probability until there is a pure kernel of undeniable truth and understanding.

99% of everything is disinformation

we who are not a part of those few bloodlines, are left mostly in the dark. We have to overcome so many hurdles. First we receive no real education in how to think critically. we are taught what they want us to believe which bears little resemblance to reality. Consensus reality is forced on us through media and education. Even though the resulting belief system is illogical, most people will doggedly cling to it like a life raft in a stormy sea because it's all we've got to base our decisions on. Indoctrination in a social and religious mindset, delivered at an early age and persisting through young adulthood shapes us into what we are.

When we live in this complex illusion it is very difficult to achieve enlightenment. It's a painful process of denying everything and becoming alienated from the world in order to shed the false reality like a snake sheds its skin to grow. The skin limits our growth, denying us our true potential.
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Re: What would happen if the people of the world went to war with the banking cartels?
In 1970, the average CEO made 39 times more money than the average worker.. Today, it's 1,039 times more.

according to the constitution of the USA-
people > state > federal government > global organizations

instead it's all backwards in a pyramid scheme where the people are the bottom step, then the state, then the federal government, then the Oligarchy.

Oligarchy = a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people. These people could be distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, education, corporate, or military control. Such states are often controlled by a few prominent families who pass their influence from one generation to the next.

unfortunately for 'them', they need the people just as much as the people need them. They can provide the capitol for capitalism but they need the labor of the people to turn those resources into anything of value. The people in turn need the oligarchs to use their resources, to create the framework of business and industry in which the people work.

they don't need 7 billion people though. I'm trying hard to see the perspective from the all seeing eye at the top of the pyramid, to understand the kind of triage that is going on in the world today. It's easy to look up from the bottom and see them as a purely demonic force of evil, but from the top they of course see themselves as the only ones who can insure a prosperous future and the kind of technological escape velocity to bring humanity to the stars, to the many habitable worlds now being discovered.
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Now that would be the battle i would join
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They would win but they would never do this as they are to scared.
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In 1970, the average CEO made 39 times more money than the average worker.. Today, it's 1,039 times more.

according to the constitution of the USA-
people > state > federal government > global organizations

instead it's all backwards in a pyramid scheme where the people are the bottom step, then the state, then the federal government, then the Oligarchy.

Oligarchy = a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people. These people could be distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, education, corporate, or military control. Such states are often controlled by a few prominent families who pass their influence from one generation to the next.

unfortunately for 'them', they need the people just as much as the people need them. They can provide the capitol for capitalism but they need the labor of the people to turn those resources into anything of value. The people in turn need the oligarchs to use their resources, to create the framework of business and industry in which the people work.

they don't need 7 billion people though. I'm trying hard to see the perspective from the all seeing eye at the top of the pyramid, to understand the kind of triage that is going on in the world today. It's easy to look up from the bottom and see them as a purely demonic force of evil, but from the top they of course see themselves as the only ones who can insure a prosperous future and the kind of technological escape velocity to bring humanity to the stars, to the many habitable worlds now being discovered.
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Fascinating.

You and I are alike thinkers.
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Had a revelation this week. Young people don't use banks and older people are becoming disgusted with banks and leaving. Are they big enough to continue their work with no customers? Serious question.
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LOL. I use banks. I kept all the money I made all year in a bank and they finally gave me $0.01 in interest. WINNING!
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It would severely damage their credit rating.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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LOL. I use banks. I kept all the money I made all year in a bank and they finally gave me $0.01 in interest. WINNING!
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Hahahahahaha!!!!
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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there would be no change
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I sincerely doubt that is true. If you mean that others would simply fill the power vacuum and become the new banksters, maybe. But if the people had already risen up to dethrone the previous banksters then it would be a very dangerous thing to attempt to retake that throne anytime soon.
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No, I meant the people would steal all the change..lol.
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so if the people of the world went to war with the banking cartels, there would be no change(novelty) because the people would steal the change(coins?) hmm. I'm not sure I get it.

I think what we can all agree on, rich and poor alike, is that this system is broken and does not work anymore. The poor are suffering tremendously and the rich are afraid of losing control and facing angry mobs like the great depression produced. The elite put the best and brightest psychologists on the job of twisting public opinion and human nature into a pretzel over the last 60 years to prevent just such a mob action. They also built a massive prison industrial complex and a big brother police state to control the people physically in case they cannot control the people psychologically.

If I was in charge of everything, We would have direct democracy where everybody votes, the numerical value of your vote would be proportional to your level of education in the field relevant to the vote being cast. All voting would be public record and each citizen would keep a record of his own voting and the votes would routinely be compared to the official voting tallies to throw up red flags if the personal vote counts did not match the public vote counts. A cap on personal wealth would be set so that nobody could become unreasonably wealthy. There is no reason for billionaires to exist. A hybrid of socialism and capitalism would be the economic model. Everyone deserves the basics like food water shelter and I would include internet/education among the basics that all humans are entitled to. Strict laws would be put in place to prevent globalism. Why manufacture everything in China and ship it to the USA, thats stupid. Things should all be produced locally to eliminate as much shipping as possible to conserve valuable fuel supplies. People should be encouraged to grow their own food as much as possible. It's a balance between socialism and capitalism which would be the most beneficial. Too much socialism and you get bad results. too much capitalism and you get bad results. Like the medical field should not be for profit because it encourages treatments, not cures. It's more profitable to make people sick and then treat them forever with pharmeceuticals than it is to encourage people to live healthier lives and cure serious problems efficiently. The prisons should not be for profit. Prison profit is basically just slavery. There should be a limit enforced on how many children you have. Sorry muslims/catholics, it's not fair for you to have 10 kids and get all sorts of welfare. 1-3 kids is all you need. the education system clearly needs to be reformed so that it produces intelligence instead of submissiveness.

I could go on and on. The world should be more like Star Trek and less like Eyes Wide Shut + devils advocate.
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so many states want to leave the union and its just a symptom of the systemic corruption.

breaking up america isn't the way to go, we need to be united not divided.
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bump
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It would look like this:

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an indeterminate period of indiscriminant bloodletting and revenge getting followed by a brutal military dictatorship and eventual re-emergence of agrarian fuedal system similar to the khmer rouge?
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the only certainty would be no more iterations of the i-kotex or i-phone
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Re: What would happen if the people of the world went to war with the banking cartels?
I have actually done some research
into this question

and the answer would be
their financial empire would fall.
But it would be at great cost to
the peoples of the world.
world economies would crumble
and briefly resemble North Korea
for a few yrs while the new system
gets kick started.

the biggest threat to the people
would be the enemy changes it's shape
and changes it's name to creep back
into the system in another form.

however this would not be without
some other regional conflicts over
the Koreas, Kashmir, Russian Republics
and Asia to name a few.

the loss of the empire would create
a power vacuum that some would
exploit by the same means as the
ones in power now.

expect shortages of most every item
until new networks could be
established and price gouging would
be in effect.

if we could make it through this transition
period for about 18 months, our chances
of survival without the cabal are great.

expect mass casualties in the beginning stages
as they will not go down quietly. They will
start a world war to keep the people from
staying focused on the real enemy.

expect around 5+ million casualties
within 3 yrs of a SHTF scenario.

however it must be done as all
empires crumble sooner or later.
consider it growing pains of
humanity.
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an indeterminate period of indiscriminant bloodletting and revenge getting followed by a brutal military dictatorship and eventual re-emergence of agrarian fuedal system similar to the khmer rouge?
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So the offshore banksters would use their wealth and influence to get revenge and cause chaos.

The military of the USA is less than 1/2 of 1% of the population. The people of the USA are all armed. From what I understand of military strategy, it's not terribly smart to face off against an enemy who outnumbers you 3500 to 1. Soldiers in the USA were taught about the founding fathers and democracy/capitolism. Most people in the USA have a lot of nationalist pride which clearly isn't really very realistic when you look at how the USA stacks up against most other countries. Iceland for example. Still that nationalism and belief in the constitution would most likely cause the military of the USA to be unlikely to form a military dictatorship like you would see in China or North Korea. I doubt they would want anything other than a true constitutional democratic republic.

You can see in many countries around the world over the past few years who are rioting and protesting against their totalitarian governments and the high cost of food and education imposed by the banksters. This is a global revolt against the banksters and the USA is late to the party because until recently, the illusion of prosperity was able to still keep people distracted in the USA. The dream that someday we might be rich TV stars or Rock stars or Inventors of the next infomercial product, that dream keeps the general population of the USA from realizing the imbalance of wealth, the stripping of human rights, the creation of a police state/prison industrial complex, the mass poisoning of the big agrobiz and pharmabiz.

it seems to me like we already are in a feudal system. It is not agrarian because the elite want control of the food supply and it takes a huge complex system to grow the food and ship it to all the stores. Local farms only support the local population. This does nothing for the globalists.

Also unlike classical feudalism we don't have a public monarch as celebrity while the common man lives in a bubble without any outside info. In the USA we have something that pretends to be a democratic republic with a President to run the corporation of the USA, a for profit subsidiary of the banking cartels. We also have the internet which makes the average peasant more globally aware than even the classical feudalist monarchy of its time.

Maybe we need a new term which describes the kind of phony capitolist democracy which is really a fascism run by oligarchs which also contains elements of feudalism and slavery similar to the roman model. I don't think such a form of governance has been given a real name yet. History will tell in 100 years.
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Nice post Anonymous Coward User ID: 27780658! That is a really well researched, well thought out, thought provoking response. It gives me a lot to think about.
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So the offshore banksters would use their wealth and influence to get revenge and cause chaos.

The military of the USA is less than 1/2 of 1% of the population. The people of the USA are all armed. From what I understand of military strategy, it's not terribly smart to face off against an enemy who outnumbers you 3500 to 1. Soldiers in the USA were taught about the founding fathers and democracy/capitolism. Most people in the USA have a lot of nationalist pride which clearly isn't really very realistic when you look at how the USA stacks up against most other countries. Iceland for example. Still that nationalism and belief in the constitution would most likely cause the military of the USA to be unlikely to form a military dictatorship like you would see in China or North Korea. I doubt they would want anything other than a true constitutional democratic republic.

You can see in many countries around the world over the past few years who are rioting and protesting against their totalitarian governments and the high cost of food and education imposed by the banksters. This is a global revolt against the banksters and the USA is late to the party because until recently, the illusion of prosperity was able to still keep people distracted in the USA. The dream that someday we might be rich TV stars or Rock stars or Inventors of the next infomercial product, that dream keeps the general population of the USA from realizing the imbalance of wealth, the stripping of human rights, the creation of a police state/prison industrial complex, the mass poisoning of the big agrobiz and pharmabiz.

it seems to me like we already are in a feudal system. It is not agrarian because the elite want control of the food supply and it takes a huge complex system to grow the food and ship it to all the stores. Local farms only support the local population. This does nothing for the globalists.

Also unlike classical feudalism we don't have a public monarch as celebrity while the common man lives in a bubble without any outside info. In the USA we have something that pretends to be a democratic republic with a President to run the corporation of the USA, a for profit subsidiary of the banking cartels. We also have the internet which makes the average peasant more globally aware than even the classical feudalist monarchy of its time.

Maybe we need a new term which describes the kind of phony capitolist democracy which is really a fascism run by oligarchs which also contains elements of feudalism and slavery similar to the roman model. I don't think such a form of governance has been given a real name yet. History will tell in 100 years.
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clappa

excellent post :)
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Nice post Anonymous Coward User ID: 27780658! That is a really well researched, well thought out, thought provoking response. It gives me a lot to think about.
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you're very welcome

us common folk in America are really
nice people once you get to know us :)
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Nice post Anonymous Coward User ID: 27780658! That is a really well researched, well thought out, thought provoking response. It gives me a lot to think about.
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one thing I did forget to mention.

in order to shut down the elitists
power structure you are going to have
to confiscate their wealth by physical
means or they are only gonna wait it out
and use that wealth to retake the system
over again. you have to use a bit of Sun Tzu
right here. you are going to have to take away
their ability to make war. the way to do that
is take their resources.

precious metals and asset confiscation
and redistribute it to all peoples.

I call this the Robin Hood Effect.

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