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Sign THE TEXAS PETITION DEMANDING THE INDEPENDENCE OF TEXAS (It's NOT The WhiteHouse Petition).

 
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Texas might be the first but it would not be the last state to go.
As for military, Texas has the largest(I believe) Army base in the USA.
In Succession, all the military equipment within a State's borders are forfeited to become property of the new State/Nation.
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Where did you hear that? The military equipment is forfeited to the state? Not in a million years.
 Quoting: Little Willow


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Texas might be the first but it would not be the last state to go.
As for military, Texas has the largest(I believe) Army base in the USA.
In Succession, all the military equipment within a State's borders are forfeited to become property of the new State/Nation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27278377


Where did you hear that? The military equipment is forfeited to the state? Not in a million years.
 Quoting: Little Willow


Texas does have the rght to drop out od the union if it chooses to do so. Its the only state that can. Texas won its independence from Mexico and became a nation. Texas actally is a soverign nation today which is why its the only state that can fly its flag as high as the USA flag. The colonial us was very week at first and knew it needed Texasfor strength so it asked Texas 3 times to join the union and Texas finally ageed but only after the U.S. offered the right to seceed anytime it wishes.
 Quoting: AAONMS 20688175


No it does not.
No matter how often this LIE is repeated won't make it true.
No document at all says such thing.
Texas can, as agreed when Texas came into the union,
break into 5 separate states.
that IS written in the documents.
And that is ALL.
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Sorry but your wrong. You dont know Texas history. The document does exist. There is also only 1 reason Texas can fly its flag as high as the USA and its because Texas is a nation within a nation!! And they have some rights above all other states because of it.
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I'm trying to figure out how that would work. Texas has the 18th best economy in the world. But you really wanna be the USA's biggest enemy? Without even a military?

But hey, go Texas!
 Quoting: Little Willow

Texas might be the first but it would not be the last state to go.
As for military, Texas has the largest(I believe) Army base in the USA.
In Succession, all the military equipment within a State's borders are forfeited to become property of the new State/Nation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27278377


Where did you hear that? The military equipment is forfeited to the state? Not in a million years.
 Quoting: Little Willow


I'm trying to figure out how that would work. Texas has the 18th best economy in the world. But you really wanna be the USA's biggest enemy? Without even a military?

But hey, go Texas!
 Quoting: Little Willow

Texas might be the first but it would not be the last state to go.
As for military, Texas has the largest(I believe) Army base in the USA.
In Succession, all the military equipment within a State's borders are forfeited to become property of the new State/Nation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27278377


Where did you hear that? The military equipment is forfeited to the state? Not in a million years.
 Quoting: Little Willow


Texas does have the rght to drop out od the union if it chooses to do so. Its the only state that can. Texas won its independence from Mexico and became a nation. Texas actally is a soverign nation today which is why its the only state that can fly its flag as high as the USA flag. The colonial us was very week at first and knew it needed Texasfor strength so it asked Texas 3 times to join the union and Texas finally ageed but only after the U.S. offered the right to seceed anytime it wishes.
 Quoting: AAONMS 20688175


??? Didn't Texas give up that right a few years back? ??? I remember in the past, driving into TX you would see the TX flag flying at the same height of the US flag. Now this doesn't seem to be the case.
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I'm trying to figure out how that would work. Texas has the 18th best economy in the world. But you really wanna be the USA's biggest enemy? Without even a military?

But hey, go Texas!
 Quoting: Little Willow


Do you really think the military would stay and support Obama? Think again. The military despises Obama. He leaves soldiers in the field of combat to die with no back up and court martials Seals for bringing in terrorist and the terrorist saying he was mistreated. He TOOK THE WORD of a TERRORIST over the Navy Seals. Do you think for a second they would carry out an order on the people? NO They will be the first to help out.
I wonder if Chris Angel had been born when Jesus was if we would be sayin, "Our Lord and savior Chris Angel, oh how could walk on water, go days upon days with no food or water, and even rose from the dead with a straight jacket on fire"
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Please, you don't want these redneck, gun toting, Bible thumping people in your socialist US. These people just be a constant thorn in your liberal sides. Send them on their way! Kick them out of the US, along with LA, OK, & AR! PLEASE!!!!!!!
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There is so much disinformation about Texas in this topic I don't even know where to start...

It's not a nation in a nation. It can't leave the union. It wasn't asked three times to join the US, it asked the US 3 times.
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I'm trying to figure out how that would work. Texas has the 18th best economy in the world. But you really wanna be the USA's biggest enemy? Without even a military?

But hey, go Texas!
 Quoting: Little Willow


Do you really think the military would stay and support Obama? Think again. The military despises Obama. He leaves soldiers in the field of combat to die with no back up and court martials Seals for bringing in terrorist and the terrorist saying he was mistreated. He TOOK THE WORD of a TERRORIST over the Navy Seals. Do you think for a second they would carry out an order on the people? NO They will be the first to help out.
 Quoting: Shifftee


Why wouldn't they sucka, when president Obama is the commander in chief of the military to whom they signed up and took an oath to follow his commands? Seals aren't stupid like you hopeless nut jobs on here, they seen the damage of what a drone can do in 3d, nor do they want to be put to death in a military prison for treason for some mullet wearing fools, losing their pension and all.

You suckas been listen to faux news and KKKarl "always wrong" Rove too much because, you guys cognitive skills are lacking?.... Also the black population in the military is over 30%, not including the Hispanics, Asians, Jews, white women and gay population. This is not the good boy military from the early 1900's.banana2
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[link to www.texassecede.com]

Q:
Doesn't the Texas Constitution reserve the right of Texas to secede?


A:

This heavily popularized bit of Texas folklore finds no corroboration where it counts: No such provision is found in the current Texas Constitution[1] (adopted in 1876) or the terms of annexation.[2] However, it does state (in Article 1, Section 1) that "Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States..." (note that it does not state "...subject to the President of the United States..." or "...subject to the Congress of the United States..." or "...subject to the collective will of one or more of the other States...")

Neither the Texas Constitution, nor the Constitution of the united States, explicitly or implicitly disallows the secession of Texas (or any other "free and independent State") from the United States. Joining the "Union" was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option (regardless of what any self-appointed academic, media, or government "experts"—including Abraham Lincoln himself—may have ever said).

Both the original (1836) and the current (1876) Texas Constitutions also state that "All political power is inherent in the people ... they have at all times the inalienable right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper."

Likewise, each of the united States is "united" with the others explicitly on the principle that "governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed" and "whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends [i.e., protecting life, liberty, and property], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government" and "when a long train of abuses and usurpations...evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." [3]
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Texas might be the first but it would not be the last state to go.
As for military, Texas has the largest(I believe) Army base in the USA.
In Succession, all the military equipment within a State's borders are forfeited to become property of the new State/Nation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27278377


Where did you hear that? The military equipment is forfeited to the state? Not in a million years.
 Quoting: Little Willow


...

Texas might be the first but it would not be the last state to go.
As for military, Texas has the largest(I believe) Army base in the USA.
In Succession, all the military equipment within a State's borders are forfeited to become property of the new State/Nation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27278377


Where did you hear that? The military equipment is forfeited to the state? Not in a million years.
 Quoting: Little Willow


Texas does have the rght to drop out od the union if it chooses to do so. Its the only state that can. Texas won its independence from Mexico and became a nation. Texas actally is a soverign nation today which is why its the only state that can fly its flag as high as the USA flag. The colonial us was very week at first and knew it needed Texasfor strength so it asked Texas 3 times to join the union and Texas finally ageed but only after the U.S. offered the right to seceed anytime it wishes.
 Quoting: AAONMS 20688175


??? Didn't Texas give up that right a few years back? ??? I remember in the past, driving into TX you would see the TX flag flying at the same height of the US flag. Now this doesn't seem to be the case.
 Quoting: Watdhel


Texas never ever could.
Texas is built on folklore that is not true.
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Please, you don't want these redneck, gun toting, Bible thumping people in your socialist US. These people just be a constant thorn in your liberal sides. Send them on their way! Kick them out of the US, along with LA, OK, & AR! PLEASE!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Watdhel


We could FORCE Texas out alone.
Then democratic party would have forever
an overwhelming super majority in both
the senate and the house and democratic
presidents forever.
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FUCK TEXAS
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That's easily said from the safety of your mom's basement. If you had balls you would come down here, stand on the steps of the capitol and and shout it out. We would put our boots up your ass and feed you to the buzzards. Your mom would be so relived that she has One less mistake to put up with everyday.
"All I got in this world is my balls and my word and i don't break either of 'em for no one!"
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Much love for Texans and this movement for secession.

Make it happen.
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For Texas to "go back to where it belongs" means giving it back to Mexico. You don't want to hear it but it's true. Texas never belonged to white men. It is was wnd is on loan to you angry white aliens.
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So much misinformation here..

Texas can secede, when the secession is a movement of the people, for the people..

"Texas is a free and independent State ... All political power is inherent in the people ... they have at all times the inalienable right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper."
— Texas Constitution (1876)

"When a government has ceased to protect the lives, liberty and property of the people, from whom its legitimate powers are derived...[it is] the inherent and inalienable right of the people to...abolish such government, and create another in its stead..."
— Texas Declaration of Independence (1836)


"Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed... Whenever government becomes destructive to life, liberty, or property [i.e., the pursuit of happiness], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it... It is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."
— American Declaration of Independence (1776)




Are you noticing a trend here? The constitutions were created to protect the people from the government, not the government from the people... its all of yalls twisted "democratic" lines of thought that cause you to believe it cant be done...

No original legislation by our founding fathers was created to protect the government from the people.... after all our founding fathers just went through that mess when they declared their independence.. you would think they had the foresight to see how it easily it could happen again.... and they did see it..



yall twisted democrats can call me wrong all day.. but in the end.. if you argue these points you need to take a look at the constitutions and place your arguments with the founding fathers..


Proud Texan.

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Lets just say the US GOvt. ALLOWED Texas to secede, first, you arent getting the hardware for the military, PERIOD. The Soldiers there are Federal troops and airmen,you wont be getting any nukes or missiles.

Second, you arent going to forcibly take anything that belongs to Uncle Sugar,if you want your newly formed Republic to last more than a half hour.

Lastly, your not going to win this in a court battle with some ancient legalese BS to win your case. It will be the same as when Santa Ana run it, you better find a Houston, real fast.
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I'm trying to figure out how that would work. Texas has the 18th best economy in the world. But you really wanna be the USA's biggest enemy? Without even a military?

But hey, go Texas!
 Quoting: Little Willow


How would Texas be an Enemy of the United States if they Seceded? All the Nukes, Tanks, Troops and all of the other Military Equipment would belong to Texas.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27482106


It was deemed unconstitutional after the Civil War. They will have to fight the USA to sucede..thus become an enemy.

No, all the nukes, etc. wouldn't belong to TX.
 Quoting: Little Willow


and just who is going to come get them?....several other states are contemplating the same thing.

Here's your hope and change!
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the American Government take care of him;

better take a closer look at the American Indian."

Henry Ford

"Disappointment is Anger for wimps"

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How many have signed it so far?
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Lets just say the US GOvt. ALLOWED Texas to secede, first, you arent getting the hardware for the military, PERIOD. The Soldiers there are Federal troops and airmen,you wont be getting any nukes or missiles.

Second, you arent going to forcibly take anything that belongs to Uncle Sugar,if you want your newly formed Republic to last more than a half hour.

Lastly, your not going to win this in a court battle with some ancient legalese BS to win your case. It will be the same as when Santa Ana run it, you better find a Houston, real fast.
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They took our embassy in Benghazi, and shot at our UAV... no recourse has been taken towards them...
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Good riddance. Oh, and get over it, the South lost the war.

You want your own country with no government, all the guns you can own and no health care? I hear Somalia is nice this of the year.
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Good riddance. Oh, and get over it, the South lost the war.

You want your own country with no government, all the guns you can own and no health care? I hear Somalia is nice this of the year.
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You have obviously never taken a trip to the Houston medical center. Or the one in Dallas, Austin, or San Antonio.....

So what if we carry weapons? People are less likely to screw with other people if they know there is a large possibility they will shoot back.. you have been brainwashed by the donkey
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Oh, and get over it, the South lost the war.
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Don't even get me started on this... you do realize the North had tons of help..

I'm not getting into an argument over this.. it really doesn't bother me... i didn't fight in the civil war, no do i know anyone who did i mean how long ago was it.. exactly..... but seriously.. do some reading..

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OP = more fucked up than the rest here.
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And Your Manners, Sir?

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God's speed Texas. Go get them!
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That's easily said from the safety of your mom's basement. If you had balls you would come down here, stand on the steps of the capitol and and shout it out. We would put our boots up your ass and feed you to the buzzards. Your mom would be so relived that she has One less mistake to put up with everyday.
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secession comes from the respective governor.

this is shit. just a bunch of revolutiontards using virtual pickets.
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Good riddance. Oh, and get over it, the South lost the war.

You want your own country with no government, all the guns you can own and no health care? I hear Somalia is nice this of the year.
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You have obviously never taken a trip to the Houston medical center. Or the one in Dallas, Austin, or San Antonio.....

So what if we carry weapons? People are less likely to screw with other people if they know there is a large possibility they will shoot back.. you have been brainwashed by the donkey
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Heh. Damn donkey. cool2
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What is that nonsense world will be mess if all the USA state start filing separation and fighting for separation.
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