NE Ohio Sewer district is about to start its RAIN WATER TAX and it will be coming your way soon once cities realize they can do this.

Chrit,

If we follow this taxation beyond strapped municipalities, we would find the UN’s Agenda 21 and their puppet obama as the ultimate culprit. They will tax us out of our homes and properties and foist their “sustainable living” crap meaning we are herded into small apartments.

If I have to pay the tax, I'm keeping the rain.

This fee has been around for ages, just NOT for residential home owners.

Business's that have parking lots ect. get charged extra for square footage that is not natural ground. Some cities are now charging for 'natural ground' as well.

But 'residential'?

ASSHOLES !!

Hydrofluoric acid. A hazardous byproduct of the phosphorus and alum industries that instead of them paying to dispose of properly we pay to put it our water.

By the way, its Ohio law that once a community votes to feed fluoride they cannot reverse that decision.

Agree about Agenda 21, but it's more than just Obama. There are plenty of these local/state government officials that are more than happy to implement this crap.

Yes it is, that was how they started this. This is why I linked the deer population numbers for the county in my second post.

Hey, it's illegal to save rainwater in some places...

Let me put this one more way..

How is it, that we citizens have to meet all the criteria of DMV and EPA emissions on everything we use that consume gas..

Do city busses?
Do tax payer funded city personnel vehicles?
Do tax payer funded transportation vehicles like Semis, trains, public transpo, or any other funded vehicle or as using vehicle have to meet the criteria?

NO.

SCHOOL BUS's and City Vehicles ( by the tens of thousands ) do not have to meet the criteria... They are exempt.

You, the average working joe, have to comply yearly with all this, and they are exempted. How many of these fuckin politburo jack booted thugs drive a tax payer funded vehicle that is over 3 years old?

They get new shit all the time on our dime, and we get what....

A fucking rain tax?

Fuck that.

RISE UP !!

Use their own rules against them.

Wow, someone here knows whats up! I live in the NE Ohio area and have worked in many wastewater treatment plants as an independent service technician representing companies as well as been an operator and lab technician for municipalities. The EPA are hopeless.

Let me give people who believe the EPA is good an example of why it actually sucks. One time at work when I was an operator, one of our intake tanks turned a weird color. I immediately sealed it off and tested the water. It was contaminated with Chromium from a mom and pop business that did chrome plating, because they had mistakenly emptied their tank when they blew a fuse and lost power. They were pumping into the tank and when the fuse blew all the water drained out of the tank because it was electronic, and went right into the sewer system and down to our wastewater plant.

They would have been made to pay a gigantic fine that would have bankrupted them but the town made them pay to have the tank emptied by a hazardous waste company instead of driving local jobs out of existence. Meanwhile, giant industrial plants discharge thousands of gallons of water with a tiny percentage of chrome, every day of every year, that pollute even more in ONE DAY than this little place does in a DECADE but pay practically nothing in fines because the EPA SANCTIONS POLLUTION LEGALLY! Pollution should be taxed by how much pollution you add to the environment to maintain the sewer system and equipment IMO. Instead, the EPA sets an arbitrary level of allowable pollution that only big global corporations can afford to meet while punishing small business. These large companies can afford a six figure fine with ease and shrug their shoulders and continue ruining our environment while one simple mistake can drive a small business out of existence, AND THIS IS ALL BY DESIGN.

Hydrofluorosilic acid. H2SiF6. The Germans found they could treat hyperthyroidism with a bath in fluoridated water. Fluoride absorbs through the skin.

This calmed the patients down, but also lowered their IO.

This is why the Nazi's decided to add fluoride to concentration camp's water supply.

people will soon realize that they're better off living in a cardboard box....

But at least the Nazi's used pharmacy grade sodium fluoride instead of an industrial waste.

That’s the thing, this “tax” goes out beyond the county borders to the surrounding municipalities!

The surrounding cities who are not in the same county even are suing and have been sueing for 5 years now saying the rain water is the responsibility of the local government and this Tax is a city issue not a regional issue.

That’s why this is so important; it will give Cleveland the power to tax other counties on their run off.

The implications of a city being able to tax is neighboring cities for run off are beyond scary.

As an example imagine NY city being able to be able to tax outside it’s municipality and deep in to the suburbs.

Hey OP,

Edited for explanation as to why Op censored a post.... For now.

Last Edited by Redpaw360 on 11/10/2012 08:37 PM

RedPaw has spoken

Hell, people ARE living in cardboard boxes now.

It's all good, I got ya covered sir.

Last Edited by Chrit on 11/10/2012 08:39 PM

I'm retarded, leave me alone. I know not what I speak of.

Last Edited by Redpaw360 on 11/10/2012 08:48 PM

Hey, I bet the post he took down was you asking for karma, that is against the rules and people have been banned for that. Chrit was just trying to HELP YOU! Wow.

Okay. Explanation accepted. I'm a retard. All is good.

Sorry Chrit, please accept apologies.

I'll go for the ban, good help always get their due.

Much forgiveness asked.

Earthquake just hit, that's my calling.

I'm looking on the website for the regional sewer district:

[link to www.neorsd.org]

Understanding stormwater, the issues, and solutions
What's the link between water flow and watersheds?

Some people say rain, other say rainwater, we say stormwater, and it's more than just rain. Stormwater is any rainwater or melting snow or ice that flows over the surface of the land to the nearest sewers, lake, or stream.

...

Are there solutions to these problems? Some communities have regulations in place to control stormwater inside their borders, but one community's solution can affect other communities downstream. That is why the Northeast Ohio Regional Sewer District will develop and oversee a Regional Stormwater Management Program, which will take effect later this year.


This is the SAME STUFF that is in Pennsylvania, only in our case ours is not a tax. Instead, you need to have paperwork filled out and hand if you have even one animal that is livestock (1 chicken) OR EVEN IF YOU DO NOT and use manure to fertilize your garden. This is all Agenda 21 garbage.

Gwad I fuckin hate people who let this shit happen in the first place..what are they thinking? I mean really, why would ANYone even let some draconian propsal like this get remotely near a ballot measure let alone reality? Dumbfounded on this one.
Chip-toothed bitches.....

Errp...I see that they got around a vote, but this can be dealt with in various different ways starting with recalling all the charter members of this Fee schedual scheme, right?

Go get that ass!

Last Edited by A Mery Can on 11/10/2012 09:02 PM

Once the court makes the precedence and will spread like wild fire.

Mind you this story is talking about Buy-A-Hog-A-county not Summit county.

Cuyahoga being the most corrupt county in the tri state area easy.

They are bypassing elected officials & county lines.


Snip: Owners of average-size homes -- with 2,000 to 4,000 square feet of impervious surface -- will be charged $57 a year, or $4.75 a month. Owners of businesses, parking lots, churches and other commercial property would also be charged based on the amount of hard surface. For example, a business with a 250-car parking lot that has 120,000 square feet of impervious area would be charged $190 a month or $2,280 a year.

Property owners would be eligible for a fee reduction -- home owners up to 25 percent and business property owners up to 75 percent -- if they reduced storm water runoff by using such features as retention ponds, swales, rain gardens and porous pavements.

Summit County communities that are part of the sewer district had filed a suit before the plan was approved claiming that the Summit County engineer, not the district, has authority over their storm water management.

The district, meanwhile went to Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court where the district was created, and asked for it to affirm that it had the legal authority to assess the fees.

It's that case Berns' clients are asking to be a party to.
In the Motion filed in court, the groups claim the sewer district does not have the authority to do this and that the storm water management plan is an unlawful attempt to expand its scope.


[link to blog.cleveland.com]

makes you allmost want to kill somebody...

Trying to soften the back lash blow?

That’s the thing it was never on a ballot EVER! Not once!

It is a “fee” and they are trying to create a legal precedence as a “fee” in court so they can implement it outside tax laws!

If they get their way this “fee” that is really a tax will be implement everywhere.

WELL...DONT LET IT HAPPEN!
We're all counting on you!

There is so much stress, I obviously lost it. I've fought tooth and nail in my area for the right to just walk on the beach for a bird that wasn't ever there.....

Everyday, it's another fight against closures, taxes, common sense eroded, people on the take.

I'm really just trying to fight across multiple fronts, at times I go broke putting effort into advertising against the media who have endless resources from the groups that push these issues.

I'm an environmentalist at heart, I believe in using resources as needed as long as we replenish or replant what we take, and I'm all for making areas available to explore, sure some people abuse this and leave trash, deface....

But don't fuck us all over for the actions of a few.

Government taxation on the people who get rained on?....really?

To fund what exactly?, and to what proven study?, and at what cost to all of us?.....

And yet their very building which they sit in, are exempt, their homes are dismissed, their business receive a tax break, their friends are discounted from the tab, ......

At what cost, the lives of those who actually pay the fucking bills.

wish it was that cheap here.

Where are you located?