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OP/Scorpio66, how are you doing & can you update us?
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I'm here! I finally conked out sometime this morning and I'm trying to catch up. I don't really have any updates, but I did just get a text from Fox59 saying 80 homes were damaged and 3.6 million estimated damage.

I'll catch up and then poke around and see if I can find anything new!

Thanks to everyone for keeping this active and updated. I will do my best to stay on it and keep my eyes and ears open for any information.

Oh and as for the other "south side" house that blew up a couple of weeks ago - I do recall seeing that when it happened, but it didn't make much of an impact at the time as it seemed to be downtown (on the south side of downtown) and in an old, decrepit, vacant home. It really was just a few small lines and no big deal, or so it seemed. Certainly didn't feel it and it wasn't reported from miles and miles around, etc. My biggest concern, honestly, is that this is/was/could be somehow related to BP/Sinkhole/Methane/New Madrid. Especially with the KY quake yesterday... big coincidence? I sure hope so!

Ok, off to catch up, I'll be back!
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Yes, yet another possibility OP...Thank you.

Please ban the nasty naysayers who are trying to discredit hours of hard work by many people who were here all night.
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Compared with what? How many calls are typical? What is the population of the area covered?
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Not just sick calls. Calls for unconscious people, one right after the other.

I rest my case and am done with this.
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I haven't heard unconscious yet but there was a seizure and injured person and lots of residence alarms
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Yes, heard seizures a few times. Again, many of these calls were located in specific areas...not all, but many. The addresses are all in the thread.

Only one of these emergency calls, after the explosion was in the vacinity of the explosion. They were in a radius around the Fountain Square area and some were in Beech grove.

Beech Grove is between the explosion site and the area of the rash of calls for unconsciousness and sick. By the way, one has to be pretty sick to call an ambulance. Who does that. They have someone drive them to the ER if it is a regular illness.

I also think some of us may be a bit creeped out today. I am. Unfortunately, I let the naysayers tick me off, so I'm here posting again, but not so sure I am comfortable doing so anymore.
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Right AC11326620.

Jessers, one of the posters made a map and linked it, It should be between page 23 and 39 (I think).

You really had to be listening to the feeds to get why there are questions, though reading pages 19 through 35 or so could give a glimmer. Not saying there was anything strange going on but not saying there wasn't.

If the investigators are saying they don't know what happened...why should we think we know? Or debunk ideas that at the moment are not debunkable. We've debunked meteor strike, and anything that would leave a crater. but the other things are still open for research and questioning, in my mind at least.
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another cardiac arrest. It might be a big area but that many cardiac issues cannot be normal unless they are just very very unhealthy peeps there.
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Cardiac arrest just means potentially and is often anything from heartburn or indigestion, to any random chest pain. In the same time frame, I have heard multiple gun shots, car accidents, injuries, assaults and all the usual you would expect in a large residential area. People tuning in to something they have never listened to or have any understanding of and claiming something out of the ordinary is happening..... come on now .....
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i have worked for county govt in the states, unlike you. and i will say i know that you are a paid liar and will be held accountable as will your employers. you really should think about what happens when your body decomposes. i'm afraid you will get it. there's no stopping that. every minute you waste typing lies is another minute closer to that realization. so continue, liar.
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Wow. That's really deep tounge H.G.Wells would have been proud.

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This thread got derailed pretty quickly....FEMA death camps are nearby Amtrak and beech grove, so in order to hide the mass causalities being committed there (user quoted " after the explosion, there were thousands of screams which then just faded away") an implosion of a hydrogen bomb would create the impact zone without any crater, the excess hydrogen in the atmosphere would create the sicknesses and unconsciousness of those within a few mile radius, and would be a perfect diversion to keep attention away from the activity going on at the FEMA death camp. Just my two cents, I was up for several hours last night keeping on top of the start of the incident 11:10pm to around 6:15am when I went to be from exhaustion.

Enough with the petty comments and simple assumptions about what happened, because it really discredits those on GLP, new and old members who are here to bring vivid interpretations of why tragedies like this occur due to a sinister agenda. Peace.
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Not just sick calls. Calls for unconscious people, one right after the other.

I rest my case and am done with this.
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I haven't heard unconscious yet but there was a seizure and injured person and lots of residence alarms
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Yes, heard seizures a few times. Again, many of these calls were located in specific areas...not all, but many. The addresses are all in the thread.

Only one of these emergency calls, after the explosion was in the vacinity of the explosion. They were in a radius around the Fountain Square area and some were in Beech grove.

Beech Grove is between the explosion site and the area of the rash of calls for unconsciousness and sick. By the way, one has to be pretty sick to call an ambulance. Who does that. They have someone drive them to the ER if it is a regular illness.

I also think some of us may be a bit creeped out today. I am. Unfortunately, I let the naysayers tick me off, so I'm here posting again, but not so sure I am comfortable doing so anymore.
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Right AC11326620.

Jessers, one of the posters made a map and linked it, It should be between page 23 and 39 (I think).

You really had to be listening to the feeds to get why there are questions, though reading pages 19 through 35 or so could give a glimmer. Not saying there was anything strange going on but not saying there wasn't.

If the investigators are saying they don't know what happened...why should we think we know? Or debunk ideas that at the moment are not debunkable. We've debunked meteor strike, and anything that would leave a crater. but the other things are still open for research and questioning, in my mind at least.
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I was clearly responding to people who are listening to the live radio feed NOW and claiming it is out of the ordinary when I can see absolutely no evidence of that. That and some of the other more "extraordinary" claims of EMP and the like by posters who by their own admission, didn't have a clue what they are talking about!!!
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Why haven't we heard more from witnesses? Remember on page 2 a witness reported seeing metal fall from the sky.
"It was just the loudest thing I ever heard, inside my house," said Julie Hamm, who lives in the area. She said two or three minutes later, cotton-like metal debris was falling from the sky.
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I just want to know....HAS THERE BEEN ANY OFFICIAL CAUSE??
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I haven't heard unconscious yet but there was a seizure and injured person and lots of residence alarms
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Yes, heard seizures a few times. Again, many of these calls were located in specific areas...not all, but many. The addresses are all in the thread.

Only one of these emergency calls, after the explosion was in the vacinity of the explosion. They were in a radius around the Fountain Square area and some were in Beech grove.

Beech Grove is between the explosion site and the area of the rash of calls for unconsciousness and sick. By the way, one has to be pretty sick to call an ambulance. Who does that. They have someone drive them to the ER if it is a regular illness.

I also think some of us may be a bit creeped out today. I am. Unfortunately, I let the naysayers tick me off, so I'm here posting again, but not so sure I am comfortable doing so anymore.
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Right AC11326620.

Jessers, one of the posters made a map and linked it, It should be between page 23 and 39 (I think).

You really had to be listening to the feeds to get why there are questions, though reading pages 19 through 35 or so could give a glimmer. Not saying there was anything strange going on but not saying there wasn't.

If the investigators are saying they don't know what happened...why should we think we know? Or debunk ideas that at the moment are not debunkable. We've debunked meteor strike, and anything that would leave a crater. but the other things are still open for research and questioning, in my mind at least.
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I was clearly responding to people who are listening to the live radio feed NOW and claiming it is out of the ordinary when I can see absolutely no evidence of that. That and some of the other more "extraordinary" claims of EMP and the like by posters who by their own admission, didn't have a clue what they are talking about!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11326620

I hear you on that one. I have been listening almost non stop since the explosion, and when a newbie finally starts listening to the radio feed, and they hear one or two calls. they assume everything is "normal". If you have been listening to the volume of calls almost every five minutes since 11 pm last night, then you would KNOW everything IS NOT NORMAL!
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I just want to know....HAS THERE BEEN ANY OFFICIAL CAUSE??
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No...not yet.

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I just want to know....HAS THERE BEEN ANY OFFICIAL CAUSE??
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No, they are still "investigating" it.
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"One WTHR employee who lives near the area says she saw metal debris falling from the sky."


wtf
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Also: "It was just the loudest thing I ever heard, inside my house," said Julie Hamm, who lives in the area. She said two or three minutes later, cotton-like metal debris was falling from the sky. [link to www.wthr.com]
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Why haven't we heard more from witnesses? Remember on page 2 a witness reported seeing metal fall from the sky.
"It was just the loudest thing I ever heard, inside my house," said Julie Hamm, who lives in the area. She said two or three minutes later, cotton-like metal debris was falling from the sky.
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Sounds like insulation which would have blown quite a long way, in the two or three minutes after the explosion.
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This thread got derailed pretty quickly....FEMA death camps are nearby Amtrak and beech grove, so in order to hide the mass causalities being committed there (user quoted " after the explosion, there were thousands of screams which then just faded away") an implosion of a hydrogen bomb would create the impact zone without any crater, the excess hydrogen in the atmosphere would create the sicknesses and unconsciousness of those within a few mile radius, and would be a perfect diversion to keep attention away from the activity going on at the FEMA death camp. Just my two cents, I was up for several hours last night keeping on top of the start of the incident 11:10pm to around 6:15am when I went to be from exhaustion.

Enough with the petty comments and simple assumptions about what happened, because it really discredits those on GLP, new and old members who are here to bring vivid interpretations of why tragedies like this occur due to a sinister agenda. Peace.
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Amtrak is now run by former fema regional director susan reinertson.

[link to depletedcranium.com]

Some pictures of beach grove facility
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Interesting.....very interesting.
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cotton-like metal debris was falling from the sky.
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The only thing I can think of that fits that description is steel wool...which doesn't make sense because it would take a considerable amount of it to be noticed falling from the sky.
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Right AC11326620.

Jessers, one of the posters made a map and linked it, It should be between page 23 and 39 (I think).

You really had to be listening to the feeds to get why there are questions, though reading pages 19 through 35 or so could give a glimmer. Not saying there was anything strange going on but not saying there wasn't.

If the investigators are saying they don't know what happened...why should we think we know? Or debunk ideas that at the moment are not debunkable. We've debunked meteor strike, and anything that would leave a crater. but the other things are still open for research and questioning, in my mind at least.
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I was clearly responding to people who are listening to the live radio feed NOW and claiming it is out of the ordinary when I can see absolutely no evidence of that. That and some of the other more "extraordinary" claims of EMP and the like by posters who by their own admission, didn't have a clue what they are talking about!!!


Clearly, sorry about that.

Though none of us really know what we are talking about in this, none of us are there, none of us have inspected the area, none of us have the first responder on the scene information. So though posters may disagree, it isn't really constructive to huff and puff and try to blow away an others conclusion.

If there are facts to debunk something a person will get more thought if they state the facts in a relaxed conversational way rather than a berating attacking way.
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OP/Scorpio66, how are you doing & can you update us?
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I'm here! I finally conked out sometime this morning and I'm trying to catch up. I don't really have any updates, but I did just get a text from Fox59 saying 80 homes were damaged and 3.6 million estimated damage.

I'll catch up and then poke around and see if I can find anything new!

Thanks to everyone for keeping this active and updated. I will do my best to stay on it and keep my eyes and ears open for any information.

Oh and as for the other "south side" house that blew up a couple of weeks ago - I do recall seeing that when it happened, but it didn't make much of an impact at the time as it seemed to be downtown (on the south side of downtown) and in an old, decrepit, vacant home. It really was just a few small lines and no big deal, or so it seemed. Certainly didn't feel it and it wasn't reported from miles and miles around, etc. My biggest concern, honestly, is that this is/was/could be somehow related to BP/Sinkhole/Methane/New Madrid. Especially with the KY quake yesterday... big coincidence? I sure hope so!

Ok, off to catch up, I'll be back!
 Quoting: scorpio66


Yes, yet another possibility OP...Thank you.

Please ban the nasty naysayers who are trying to discredit hours of hard work by many people who were here all night.
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Who? How?

And I just got another Breaking News text from Fox59 that Greenwood schools will be on 2 hr delay tomorrow due to the explosion. The explosion is not in Greenwood and that neighborhood does not go to Greenwood schools. Greenwood is in the next county bordering to the South. It is close as the explosion is not far from the county line, but seems a little odd they'd delay Greenwood but not the actual school system where this happened.
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Fox cable talking about it right now
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Right AC11326620.

Jessers, one of the posters made a map and linked it, It should be between page 23 and 39 (I think).

You really had to be listening to the feeds to get why there are questions, though reading pages 19 through 35 or so could give a glimmer. Not saying there was anything strange going on but not saying there wasn't.

If the investigators are saying they don't know what happened...why should we think we know? Or debunk ideas that at the moment are not debunkable. We've debunked meteor strike, and anything that would leave a crater. but the other things are still open for research and questioning, in my mind at least.
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I was clearly responding to people who are listening to the live radio feed NOW and claiming it is out of the ordinary when I can see absolutely no evidence of that. That and some of the other more "extraordinary" claims of EMP and the like by posters who by their own admission, didn't have a clue what they are talking about!!!
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Whoops should have previewed, don't want to confuse anyone.

Clearly, sorry about that.

Though none of us really know what we are talking about in this, none of us are there, none of us have inspected the area, none of us have the first responder on the scene information. So though posters may disagree, it isn't really constructive to huff and puff and try to blow away an others conclusion.

If there are facts to debunk something a person will get more thought if they state the facts in a relaxed conversational way rather than a berating attacking way.
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Not sure if this has been asked yet but do we know the background of the guy who died Alex, or anyone else with the 'blast zone'? Wondering if they are of any significance.

That may be a wild idea but certainly something to think about since we still have no idea what the cause was and that DHS was on the scene.
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Strange, look at haarp status. Blue? If you keep track of haarp status, you will see that haarp is turned down for some reason. For about two weeks haarp status is been yellow and red on the east,and west coast, and yellow on the madrid area. Does anyone else find this strange?
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here is a mansion that blew up from natural gas line explosion. homes close by still standing. large house with much gas usage, compared to Indiana house all electric. this is TN where DHS is everywhere, but not at this explosion. people walking calmly around. 2009.

Natural Gas House Explosion Knoxville, TN

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Oh and I'm sorry, I don't recall exactly the house numbers but I believe it was 8455 and not 8415 where this Alex guy is. I think I just saw where Alex was actually interviewed last night and is alive and well. I think it is 8455 Field Fare or something.
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Daylight aerial pics here:

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Not sure if this has been asked yet but do we know the background of the guy who died Alex, or anyone else with the 'blast zone'? Wondering if they are of any significance.

That may be a wild idea but certainly something to think about since we still have no idea what the cause was and that DHS was on the scene.
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They did, he works for a paint company, and he is still alive, That was early information (this is from a post a few pages back). Thank goodness for him, but so sad for the other person's family.

Your question is a great one though.
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OP/Scorpio66, how are you doing & can you update us?
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I'm here! I finally conked out sometime this morning and I'm trying to catch up. I don't really have any updates, but I did just get a text from Fox59 saying 80 homes were damaged and 3.6 million estimated damage.

I'll catch up and then poke around and see if I can find anything new!

Thanks to everyone for keeping this active and updated. I will do my best to stay on it and keep my eyes and ears open for any information.

Oh and as for the other "south side" house that blew up a couple of weeks ago - I do recall seeing that when it happened, but it didn't make much of an impact at the time as it seemed to be downtown (on the south side of downtown) and in an old, decrepit, vacant home. It really was just a few small lines and no big deal, or so it seemed. Certainly didn't feel it and it wasn't reported from miles and miles around, etc. My biggest concern, honestly, is that this is/was/could be somehow related to BP/Sinkhole/Methane/New Madrid. Especially with the KY quake yesterday... big coincidence? I sure hope so!

Ok, off to catch up, I'll be back!
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80 homes being damaged is significantly high for a residential gas explosion.

There are problems with accepting that a residential natural gas explosion can cause this amount of damage and also the distance at which the blast was heard and felt.

These circumstances alone indicate something with more explosive and especially a more rapid energy release than a natural gas explosion.

Natural gas indeed causes explosions, no question about that. But the pure physics of the situation limit the amount of energy that is released and how fast it is released.

The gas has to have an optimum fuel/oxygen ratio which from a random leak to the application of a random spark has a random value if it is all just an accident. The optimal ratio presenting itself to do the optimal damage is a crapshoot.

Methane which is what commercial pipe delivered natural gas is, is lighter than air, so what happens in a leak in a residence is that the gas rises to the upper floors or ceiling of a single floor. The gas that rises displaces the air so the gas at the top of the structure is richer and doesn't burn as readily.

Somewhere between the bottom and top of the structure will be the most volatile fuel/oxygen mixture. When it does ignite, it doesn't immediately burn all the gas within the structure instantly because of the varying mixture. What tends to happen is one or more windows or a wall are blown out which allows additional air into the mix and allows for the burning of the remaining gas to be facilitated.

But now the pressure has been released by the breaches in the structure and the remaining gas makes a huge fireball as it exits through the blown out windows or wall. Then the place usually just burns down.

The bottom line is this: a house full of natural gas can indeed explode but it doesn't instantly generate enough blast pressure to cause what has been witnessed and reported.

This isn't the same as what happened in San Bruno, CA either where a high pressure gas main failed. More of the surrounding homes would have been thoroughly torched if that were the case here.
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Alex is not dead as per pg 43
He is not Dead as found this:

Alex Pflanzer, 31, and his wife, Whitney, were in bed when their windows exploded and their ceiling collapsed, spreading insulation everywhere. Pflanzer said his instinct was to grab his gun. Heading outside, they saw people covered in blood leaving the neighborhood.

"It was like a war zone," Whitney Pflanzer said. "It was silent after that. And it was dark and dusty, and I thought it was a nightmare — it was a nightmare."
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Not sure if this has been asked yet but do we know the background of the guy who died Alex, or anyone else with the 'blast zone'? Wondering if they are of any significance.

That may be a wild idea but certainly something to think about since we still have no idea what the cause was and that DHS was on the scene.
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They did, he works for a paint company, and he is still alive, That was early information (this is from a post a few pages back). Thank goodness for him, but so sad for the other person's family.

Your question is a great one though.
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Ok. That's awesome that he's alive. But yea still a sad day.
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Oh, gosh. Now it makes sense why Greenwood schools are on delay for tomorrow. A teacher and her husband both died. :(

[link to www.fox59.com]
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Ok, actually, Fox59 local news site is loaded up on the front page with articles:

[link to www.fox59.com]

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