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EQ? Gas Explosion?? Something Just Shook Houses In Indianapolis!

 
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Been reading this thread since last night and it really spooked me. Okay even if we set aside whoo hoo stuff like Ufos or the beginnings of ELE meteor showers...this whole event is so puzzling. So many weird first responder inconsistencies with how this was handled. ..from DHS first on scene...to radio scanner code words and coverup/switching channels. I was an Insurance claims adjuster and the cops don't care if you are listening and catch their codes for fatalities...Independent claims adjuster rely on this...being the first on scene to take photos is their bread and butter...you sell those (for big bucks) to the attorneys representing the fatalities. Yes, its ambulance chasing and despicable but it happens.

So here is the one thing I can't wrap my head around...and it is really clear in the pictures of the first responders on the scene at night fighting the fires...ok here is my question....If they were responding to a possible natural gas or methane gas explosion why oh why are none of the firefighters wearing their breathing masks?
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Methane isn't toxic.

Google (nearly) any known gas explosion and look at photos of fire responders and you will see the same.
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Methane is toxic, and it displaces oxygen. [link to www.dhs.wisconsin.gov]
So until natural gas and methane is ruled out, it is against protocol for first responders to disregard this uncertainty...unless they knew what caused it.

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We are talking about firefighters seen standing out in the street. Displacing oxygen is not a relevance.
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I tend to agree with you displaced oxygen was not a relevant factor, therefore they took no precautions against it...I don't believe this was a natural gas explosion...the fact that the first responders are not taking precautions reinforces my reasoning that they knew what occurred.

But what could have caused the injuries, heart problems, seizures, emotional and mental problems, and unconcious victims of this magnitude? Why were they not transported directly to a hospital, instead of a school?

My response included Methane because a poster had said that there could possibly have been an ignition of large pockets of Methane that seeped through natural faults in the ground. Also defended the toxicity of Methane when a shill said Methane is not toxic when it clearly is according to DHS own website. But to be clear, I do not believe this is a natural gas explosion or ground level methane explosion. The damages just do not support that.
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isnt it odd that theres nothing left from the homes that blew up? fridge,washer dryer,funace,prob a ridin mower, hot water tank the kinda stuff thats left after a fire? just a thoughthmm
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This is exactly what I am referring to, the damage and blast patterns are very unusual for a natural gas explosion.
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I went and looked at the large farm builing in my area that was blown for over half a mile. The heavy farm equipment that was below about 3 feet in height was in the general spot it was before. Even the posts in the ground were severed at the same height all the way around...about 3 feet. I do not understand how this happens but I witnessed it.
There really should have been things strewn about or still on site after this explosion last night.
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It looks like the two houses in the middle were mostly instantly vaporized which wouldn't happen even if just one of them had a gas leak explosion.
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Don't forget it turning into a raging inferno for quite a while.

I see lots of similarities with what happened in California in 2010 which highlighted problems with gas pipelines across the country.

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Truck bomb? Did any radicals live in the neighborhood?
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This thread got derailed pretty quickly....FEMA death camps are nearby Amtrak and beech grove, so in order to hide the mass causalities being committed there (user quoted " after the explosion, there were thousands of screams which then just faded away") an implosion of a hydrogen bomb would create the impact zone without any crater, the excess hydrogen in the atmosphere would create the sicknesses and unconsciousness of those within a few mile radius, and would be a perfect diversion to keep attention away from the activity going on at the FEMA death camp. Just my two cents, I was up for several hours last night keeping on top of the start of the incident 11:10pm to around 6:15am when I went to be from exhaustion.

Enough with the petty comments and simple assumptions about what happened, because it really discredits those on GLP, new and old members who are here to bring vivid interpretations of why tragedies like this occur due to a sinister agenda. Peace.
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And knowing that the smallest ever tactical nuclear warhead ever developed was the W54 artillery warhead(It was a very compact implosion-type nuclear weapon design, designed for tactical use and had a very low yield for a nuclear weapon),(10 tons) is two to four times as powerful as the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.Early known versions could destroy a two block area, with an estimated yield comparable to approximately 10 tons of TNT. Larger versions were later developed with a selectable yield of between 10 and 250 tons

What sort of yield would you say was used in this case??
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Truck bomb? Did any radicals live in the neighborhood?
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will be curious to see the names of the deceased.
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10 ton tactical nuclear blast footage.
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isnt it odd that theres nothing left from the homes that blew up? fridge,washer dryer,funace,prob a ridin mower, hot water tank the kinda stuff thats left after a fire? just a thoughthmm
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This is exactly what I am referring to, the damage and blast patterns are very unusual for a natural gas explosion.
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I went and looked at the large farm builing in my area that was blown for over half a mile. The heavy farm equipment that was below about 3 feet in height was in the general spot it was before. Even the posts in the ground were severed at the same height all the way around...about 3 feet. I do not understand how this happens but I witnessed it.
There really should have been things strewn about or still on site after this explosion last night.
 Quoting: Fire Watch

It looks like the two houses in the middle were mostly instantly vaporized which wouldn't happen even if just one of them had a gas leak explosion.
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My thought exactly! What was so disturbing to me was everthing blown to smithereens...vaporized came to my mind too, but I could just hear the shill crap about me suggesting laser beams and such.

Okay as a comparison...when those two idiots used a truck full of fertilizer to blow up the Murrah building the axel of the truck was found intact..mangled but intact enough to read the VIN. But two houses vaporized!!! House fires don't do this, meth labs don't do this and natural gas explosions don't do this. I don't know what caused it, but I know what didn't.
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Just saw a news ticker on FOX that said the explosion and fire "destroyed hundreds of homes", but clearly, if the pictures and videos we're seeing are real, that is absolutely NOT TRUE!
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I've been listening to the radio that was linked in previous posts...

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There is already another unconcious person being reported.

How many does that make?

I dunno, I think this is methane and we all may be fucked.
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Here's the Marion County / Indianapolis, IN scanner:

[link to www.radioreference.com]

Seems to be fairly quiet now.

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Just saw a news ticker on FOX that said the explosion and fire "destroyed hundreds of homes", but clearly, if the pictures and videos we're seeing are real, that is absolutely NOT TRUE!
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I think most of the problems are structural. If you move a house a few inches off of it's foundation it is destroyed...you just cant see it in a picture. I would imagine that every house on that block and more is destroyed.
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one more video on the nuclear implosion theory. here is an example of the lowest ever yield nuclear weapon.

And just how powerful it is.



im not advocating this theory. I think its quite evident that this explosion was nowhere close to this size as you can see by the surrounding unharmed houses.
The Indianapolis explosion imo looks like 2 - 3 tons.

Still thinking about it. who am i to know what yield nukes tptb have today. maybe it was a nuke but i seriously doubt it.
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did anyone of "prominence" live in or around the damage?drevil
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Why does someone of "prominence" need to be involved? Why not a "domestic operation" to create chaos? Lots of chaos after Sandy. News reports are not showing or telling of what is really going on in the aftermath of that storm, or this explosion! DHS using RFID-based managed evacuation solution that tracks evacuees, pets, emergency transport vehicles and commodities! Nothing on MSM about this, nothing!
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Hydrogen explosion?
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Was looking around for all the information I could find on this explosion and came across this site. One of the poster's there has on site source's of this explosion. Just started posting a few things, so not a lot there yet.

But maybe worth checking? I don't know.


What caught my eye:

"Also, i can report from a VERY RELIABLE SOURCE... that there was a building up of a ROARING Sound that was heard OVERHEAD right before the huge BOOM was heard."


Also look's like a Reporter for this site has found a NASA Connection! A payload specialist. WTF is going on????

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Hmmm... Interesting.

What would make a "roaring sound"??

There were reports of metal falling as well.
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Was looking around for all the information I could find on this explosion and came across this site. One of the poster's there has on site source's of this explosion. Just started posting a few things, so not a lot there yet.

But maybe worth checking? I don't know.


What caught my eye:

"Also, i can report from a VERY RELIABLE SOURCE... that there was a building up of a ROARING Sound that was heard OVERHEAD right before the huge BOOM was heard."


Also look's like a Reporter for this site has found a NASA Connection! A payload specialist. WTF is going on????

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Hmmm... Interesting.

What would make a "roaring sound"??

There were reports of metal falling as well.
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an artillery shell.
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are there any military testing grounds close? maybe they goofed up the targeting>
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This whole thing has me scratching my head.
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I've been following this thread since the explosion. I live on the north side of Indy and didn't hear/feel anything. Has anyone heard from the evacuated people? I'm beginning to think this isn't the end of it. Keep your eyes the sky.
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Here's the Marion County / Indianapolis, IN scanner:

[link to www.radioreference.com]

Seems to be fairly quiet now.
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Every minute or so there is something being reported. Chest pains, problems breathing, unconscious are the ones I have heard.
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Drug overdose, cardiac arrest, false reports of fires, seizures, car accidents, doesn't sound like fun. 1930hrs chest pain and heart. Lots going on the scanner.

American's Heart Disease Burden

Heart Disease Deaths
Each year, about 600,000 people die of heart disease. Of these,
About 200,000 people die of heart failure.
About 130,000 die from heart attack.
Heart Attacks
Each year, about 935,000 people in the United States have a heart attack.
About 610,000 of these are first or new heart attacks.
About 325,000 people who have survived a heart attack go on to have another.
Nearly 8 million people in the United States (3%) have had a heart attack.
Every 34 seconds someone in the United States has a heart attack.
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Having read all of these pages since waking up at 3:00 a.m. with sleeping problems, I just wanted to leave my thoughts here.

a) The metal and cotton floating was no doubt insulation, which is backed with silver foil... floating and catching the light down would look metallic... plus lots of metal went up in the explosion from the homes.

b) My first thought was meteor too but no crater, no "plowing" of the gound either.

c) Not a drone because that would have been spotted either on Indy radar or by people in the area. It was not so late that there weren't people out. If our gov't were to send a drone (armed) why would they do it in Indy? A missle would be better. If it were a missle, it would have been taken out between the launch and Indy... we have the technology.

d) It could be a distraction from the Benghazi hearings, but the MSM doesn't care about Benghazi or this explosion so I don't think it's that.

e) If it was an empty house, but people were found in it and there were cars out front, it seems likely someone was mixing up something nasty that blew up in there. I'm no engineer, but didn't the OK bomber use manure and diesel to bomb the Fed. building? He had that in a truck I think... maybe that's why DHS was there, if a bombmaking operation is suspected.

f) If it was, then DHS could say they were monitoring it and they kept 67 other bombs from blasting and now they are heroes (forget about Benghazi, please, we are HEROES) + Obama is a hero, he foiled this from the golf course, now go on worshipping him, minions.

g) That was a big explosion and could play tricks with people's respiratory systems and make them hyperventilate out of fear and panic. That could explain the fire calls, but maybe they feared a bomb and evacuated people, but the fire inspectors don't seem to mind, so I don't think it's that. They probably suspected gas (think horses, not zebras) and were CYA to get the people out, those are not the first people that will go to FEMA camps, that would be Gary, Indiana, bombed out in a different way.

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Drug overdose, cardiac arrest, false reports of fires, seizures, car accidents, doesn't sound like fun. 1930hrs chest pain and heart. Lots going on the scanner.

American's Heart Disease Burden

Heart Disease Deaths
Each year, about 600,000 people die of heart disease. Of these,
About 200,000 people die of heart failure.
About 130,000 die from heart attack.
Heart Attacks
Each year, about 935,000 people in the United States have a heart attack.
About 610,000 of these are first or new heart attacks.
About 325,000 people who have survived a heart attack go on to have another.
Nearly 8 million people in the United States (3%) have had a heart attack.
Every 34 seconds someone in the United States has a heart attack.
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Yes and I imagine it would have been particularly busy late on a Saturday night and into the early hours of Sunday morning, with people drinking, partying etc.
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User ID: 27142846 re:amtrk any update on beech grove facility.any movement south?
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No.

It's too late to change anything.
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would you be willing to elaborate?
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Like 535, sometimes I am required to distract.

This was not one of those times.

It HAS begun, and this is what made him sick to begin with.

If you are inclined to prepare for your future, I suggest you tidy up loose ends and go where it is you need to.
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Hmmmmm

This is the warning signs of the great quake...

New madrid is waking up...

Or at least thats my take.
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User ID: 27142846 re:amtrk any update on beech grove facility.any movement south?
 Quoting: SowingSeeds


No.

It's too late to change anything.
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would you be willing to elaborate?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12805498


Like 535, sometimes I am required to distract.

This was not one of those times.

It HAS begun, and this is what made him sick to begin with.

If you are inclined to prepare for your future, I suggest you tidy up loose ends and go where it is you need to.
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These cryptic comments are not very helpful. I call BS unless you say something with meat: What has begun? Why is it too late to change anything? What is Amtrack involvement? So far it is just noise and not helpful.
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Having read all of these pages since waking up at 3:00 a.m. with sleeping problems, I just wanted to leave my thoughts here.

a) The metal and cotton floating was no doubt insulation, which is backed with silver foil... floating and catching the light down would look metallic... plus lots of metal went up in the explosion from the homes.

b) My first thought was meteor too but no crater, no "plowing" of the gound either.

c) Not a drone because that would have been spotted either on Indy radar or by people in the area. It was not so late that there weren't people out. If our gov't were to send a drone (armed) why would they do it in Indy? A missle would be better. If it were a missle, it would have been taken out between the launch and Indy... we have the technology.

d) It could be a distraction from the Benghazi hearings, but the MSM doesn't care about Benghazi or this explosion so I don't think it's that.

e) If it was an empty house, but people were found in it and there were cars out front, it seems likely someone was mixing up something nasty that blew up in there. I'm no engineer, but didn't the OK bomber use manure and diesel to bomb the Fed. building? He had that in a truck I think... maybe that's why DHS was there, if a bombmaking operation is suspected.

f) If it was, then DHS could say they were monitoring it and they kept 67 other bombs from blasting and now they are heroes (forget about Benghazi, please, we are HEROES) + Obama is a hero, he foiled this from the golf course, now go on worshipping him, minions.

g) That was a big explosion and could play tricks with people's respiratory systems and make them hyperventilate out of fear and panic. That could explain the fire calls, but maybe they feared a bomb and evacuated people, but the fire inspectors don't seem to mind, so I don't think it's that. They probably suspected gas (think horses, not zebras) and were CYA to get the people out, those are not the first people that will go to FEMA camps, that would be Gary, Indiana, bombed out in a different way.

peace
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All very good. For me though I am inclined to believe the authorities when they state that they have completely ruled out bomb and/or drug making activities (early in the day) and that gas leak is highly suspected.
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Was looking around for all the information I could find on this explosion and came across this site. One of the poster's there has on site source's of this explosion. Just started posting a few things, so not a lot there yet.

But maybe worth checking? I don't know.


What caught my eye:

"Also, i can report from a VERY RELIABLE SOURCE... that there was a building up of a ROARING Sound that was heard OVERHEAD right before the huge BOOM was heard."


Also look's like a Reporter for this site has found a NASA Connection! A payload specialist. WTF is going on????

[link to getthetruthout.icyboards.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1637231


Hmmm... Interesting.

What would make a "roaring sound"??

There were reports of metal falling as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26289974


Again, there have been reports on the Internet in the past of loud, pulsed, roaring sounds heard when EM weapons were being tested.
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lots of new activity on the scanner feed. fire related, injured person, heart related in last few minutes.





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