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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11326620 United Kingdom 11/12/2012 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Owners of the house that exploded were experiencing problems with their furnace and they believe that to be the cause of the problem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11326620 [link to news.sky.com] Snip from this article: "Speculation initially focused on a possible gas leak as the cause of the explosion. But the local utility company, Citizens Energy, says its crews have not found any signs of an escape." There would have been some kind of excess flow cut off valve somewhere between the meter/street and the furnace. It would not trigger whilst a gradual leak was occurring but likely only when the explosion occurred. Hence no leak would be detectable after that time. They never said there was no leak, only that they could not detect one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26048166 United States 11/12/2012 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Owners of the house that exploded were experiencing problems with their furnace and they believe that to be the cause of the problem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11326620 [link to news.sky.com] Apparently the owners had moved into a hotel because of a fault with the furnace potentially allowing gas to reach catastrophic concentrations. Ok, if that was a problem, why wasn't the gas shut off & neighbors made aware? My daughters neighbor has gas, she does not. Her home has a carbon monoxide reader, because her neighbor had a gas leak. All the surrounding neighbors were made aware, and installed readers. My point: If it was bad enough to make them rent a hotel room...this would have been known by neighbors. It's just common sense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26174012 United Kingdom 11/12/2012 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was planned and people knew..... Thread: MUST SEE......Check This Shit Out!!! Was The Indiana Southside Explosion Planned? Look What I Found...... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26048166 United States 11/12/2012 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Owners of the house that exploded were experiencing problems with their furnace and they believe that to be the cause of the problem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11326620 [link to news.sky.com] Snip from this article: "Speculation initially focused on a possible gas leak as the cause of the explosion. But the local utility company, Citizens Energy, says its crews have not found any signs of an escape." There would have been some kind of excess flow cut off valve somewhere between the meter/street and the furnace. It would not trigger whilst a gradual leak was occurring but likely only when the explosion occurred. Hence no leak would be detectable after that time. They never said there was no leak, only that they could not detect one. I get your point. I understand the article. To me, it's that ole easy thing, common sense. No one knew that the neighbors left because they feared gas problems from their furnace. If no one there new them, and no one was aware they moved temparaily to a hotel room....could explain how no one was aware of a potential gas problem...but, I'm not convinced. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11326620 United Kingdom 11/12/2012 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Owners of the house that exploded were experiencing problems with their furnace and they believe that to be the cause of the problem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11326620 [link to news.sky.com] Apparently the owners had moved into a hotel because of a fault with the furnace potentially allowing gas to reach catastrophic concentrations. Ok, if that was a problem, why wasn't the gas shut off & neighbors made aware? My daughters neighbor has gas, she does not. Her home has a carbon monoxide reader, because her neighbor had a gas leak. All the surrounding neighbors were made aware, and installed readers. My point: If it was bad enough to make them rent a hotel room...this would have been known by neighbors. It's just common sense. Just FYI (in the interests of safety) a carbon monoxide reader is of no use in a gas leak. |
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The_Brave User ID: 15897212 United States 11/12/2012 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.dailyjournal.net] This was brought to my attention... A Local Marine and Firefighter "Shot" himself in the chest while arguing with brother in law police officer the night of the explosion at 8:55 PM This was about 5 miles from the explosion... Thought this was worth noting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26048166 United States 11/12/2012 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Owners of the house that exploded were experiencing problems with their furnace and they believe that to be the cause of the problem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11326620 [link to news.sky.com] Apparently the owners had moved into a hotel because of a fault with the furnace potentially allowing gas to reach catastrophic concentrations. Ok, if that was a problem, why wasn't the gas shut off & neighbors made aware? My daughters neighbor has gas, she does not. Her home has a carbon monoxide reader, because her neighbor had a gas leak. All the surrounding neighbors were made aware, and installed readers. My point: If it was bad enough to make them rent a hotel room...this would have been known by neighbors. It's just common sense. Just FYI (in the interests of safety) a carbon monoxide reader is of no use in a gas leak. I have no idea ^ Neighbors were aware was my point :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26048166 United States 11/12/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so seagal5 is a shill, ok -- new avatar on the scene. hey seagal5, post much on the DAWGS thread, under another avatar? with little hi, thanks, and flower gifs to kill threads and bullshit people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27602325 First of all, I've been here for awhile. I change my avatar like many here do, and I respond to posts. I can't send every post a flower when they respond, as I'm go on GLP around my work schedule. I have to work to survive, and I get on here when I have a moment to myself. What's the dawg thread? Oh wait, here's your |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26143620 United States 11/12/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | credit for this goes to the Nika team. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23456097 WOW what an interesting thread I have found!! this was like reading a book. Very entertaining. Here's my 2 cents. THERE IS NO WAY THAT WAS A GAS EXPLOSION. I am 1/2 mile directly east. In the neighborhood just south of hospital. There is one tidbit of info that may be important. I know of people in the immediate area that saw multiple emergency response vehicles at the Mary Bryant Elem School literally 2 minutes after explosion. So many that there had to be foreknowledge of something. This comes from someone who was just casually repeating his story of the events. When that was mentioned I pointed out the possible flaw and then they realized what they had really seen. Maybe that's why there was such a quick response that they kept pointing out that night in interviews. People in this area WILL NOT LET THIS GO!!! THERE WILL BE QUESTIONS ANSWERED!! MY GOD THE INTENSITY AND CRISPNESS OF THE BOOM. I swore lightning had struck next door and blew the house up. That's how intense it was here a 1/2 mile away. I find it interesting that most of the other people who experienced it were East of the explosion. And WAY East. Just about everyone knows the "official not really a story" is BS. I'd imagine if the final outcome isn't acceptable there are going to be a lot of pissed off people around here. It's ALL just TOO FISHY!!!! Quoting: Tooclosedamn!! 4087038 Thread: Sinkhole and Gulf Oil Disaster Connection...Also tied to New Madrid fault! Must see video!! (Page 29) ok, are they computer tracking methane releases since synthia and other things are melting giant methane slabs? and strange foam rupturing from sinkholes and unknown fluid is coming off of the coast. the drone thing could really be an intentional blow of a methane bubble, and they didn't want it released because it would cause mass illness (rob the population of air instantly), so they blew it as it emerged from the ground and blamed it on a natural gas explosion. But as you can read, many people are still falling ill. I feel there is some relation to methane for the northeast storm hit area as well. Thank you for the info. |
Bluemoon55 User ID: 26964045 United States 11/12/2012 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Owners of the house that exploded were experiencing problems with their furnace and they believe that to be the cause of the problem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11326620 [link to news.sky.com] Apparently the owners had moved into a hotel because of a fault with the furnace potentially allowing gas to reach catastrophic concentrations. Ok, if that was a problem, why wasn't the gas shut off & neighbors made aware? My daughters neighbor has gas, she does not. Her home has a carbon monoxide reader, because her neighbor had a gas leak. All the surrounding neighbors were made aware, and installed readers. My point: If it was bad enough to make them rent a hotel room...this would have been known by neighbors. It's just common sense. Just FYI (in the interests of safety) a carbon monoxide reader is of no use in a gas leak. been following since beginning of thread. this article brings several questions to mind. who was called to inspect the furnace and when? why was the gas not shut off to the residence? according to the utility co., no calls were made to them. I'm certain that arson investigators will be checking into these claims as well as personal finances of these people. were they behind on payments? was house for sale? it would be interesting to know what they took to motel with them.did they take personal records or keepsakes? I truly hope it wasn't a case of arson. |
LadyLucy User ID: 19191714 United States 11/12/2012 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not sure if this story was worth mentioning but there was a potential gas leak at south side dentist office later dismissed.... [link to www.fox59.com] this happened like 5 hours ago, so i'm a little behind the times.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15897212 United States 11/12/2012 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From New Article: [link to www.theindychannel.com] "John Shirley told RTV6 on Monday that he received a text message last week from his 12-year-old daughter about a problem with the furnace at the house the girl shares with her mother and her mother's boyfriend. The girl said that the family was staying in a hotel because the furnace had stopped working. Shirley said no one was home at the time of the explosion." Saturday Night, it was 70 degrees in Indianapolis. Who needs their furnace on when it was so warm out that most of my friends had their windows open. Now then, Where Does John work & what does he do? [link to www.linkedin.com] [link to itfreshsolution.com] Maybe that's him.... Here's a quote from his company's website We provide Information Technology services to Federal, State, and Local Government. We provide consultants with excellent Technical knowledge who are well versed with the entire life cycle of the project to our clients and to the State of Indiana. They have Government Contracts |
taniatarn User ID: 27288484 New Zealand 11/12/2012 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another thought that just won't stop bouncing around in my head....though I'm not certain how we'd even go about validating it.....Is the bird/bat pic an insignia of a Military Unit? Also.....we've heard that eyewitnesses claimed to have heard a "roaring sound" PRIOR to the explosion, someone stating it "sounded like an airplane about to crash". We've seen what COULD be debris from a small plane(Drone?) but we are missing a crater to lend credibility to a conventional missile strike. The blast effected everything in the House BUT what would be 2 of the 5 most logical sources of Natural Gas in the Home, the stove & water heater(missing are fireplace, central heating, gas clothes dryer). Did a plane/drone crash or was (without knowing where this lies in relation to aquifers & fault lines) another type of weapon involved to ignite a natural(as in coming from the ground) gas emission in a less populated area? Just a few thoughts after reading some of the many pages of thoughts/pics/info. Quoting: remjr1 219210 Came across lots on information re. a Vampire Squadron....their symbol is this.. [link to www.google.co.nz] ALSO OF INTEREST...read this morning... ENE news article...of interest are comments down the bottom.. opechi November 12, 2012 at 1:12 pm Log in to Reply If you see my comment that was consensus in packed to the brim chat room I was in last night. In addition to what I said in comment several people online from neighborhood were there and all reported symptoms of feeling dizzy. opechi November 12, 2012 at 1:06 pm Log in to Reply Hi everyone. I am always here but rarely comment. I was in a fully packed chat room last night with 150 smart people trying to figure this out. KNOW: meth lab, gas, bomb all RULED OUT per police. No definitive answers but all seemed to feel more research on TELSA needed to be done. I am not an expert on that subject. Several people online from neighborhood all described feeling something strange but did not feel earthquake. There have been a dozen HEART ATTACKS at least since explosion. [link to enenews.com] Could be related to the shock of the situation but is interesting to say the least... Last Edited by taniatarn on 11/12/2012 02:55 PM Interested observer of all things interesting! Please note : Where appropriate for posted images/ graphs I acknowledge the New Zealand GeoNet project and its sponsors EQC, GNS Science and LINZ, for providing data/images used in my study and analyses of Volcanic and Earthquake information in New Zealand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26048166 United States 11/12/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another thought that just won't stop bouncing around in my head....though I'm not certain how we'd even go about validating it.....Is the bird/bat pic an insignia of a Military Unit? Also.....we've heard that eyewitnesses claimed to have heard a "roaring sound" PRIOR to the explosion, someone stating it "sounded like an airplane about to crash". We've seen what COULD be debris from a small plane(Drone?) but we are missing a crater to lend credibility to a conventional missile strike. The blast effected everything in the House BUT what would be 2 of the 5 most logical sources of Natural Gas in the Home, the stove & water heater(missing are fireplace, central heating, gas clothes dryer). Did a plane/drone crash or was (without knowing where this lies in relation to aquifers & fault lines) another type of weapon involved to ignite a natural(as in coming from the ground) gas emission in a less populated area? Just a few thoughts after reading some of the many pages of thoughts/pics/info. Quoting: remjr1 219210 Came across lots on information re. a Vampire Squadron....their symbol is this.. [link to www.google.co.nz] That looks very closely like that bizzare image in the pic on WishTV. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3236213 United States 11/12/2012 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11326620 Apparently the owners had moved into a hotel because of a fault with the furnace potentially allowing gas to reach catastrophic concentrations. Ok, if that was a problem, why wasn't the gas shut off & neighbors made aware? My daughters neighbor has gas, she does not. Her home has a carbon monoxide reader, because her neighbor had a gas leak. All the surrounding neighbors were made aware, and installed readers. My point: If it was bad enough to make them rent a hotel room...this would have been known by neighbors. It's just common sense. Just FYI (in the interests of safety) a carbon monoxide reader is of no use in a gas leak. been following since beginning of thread. this article brings several questions to mind. who was called to inspect the furnace and when? why was the gas not shut off to the residence? according to the utility co., no calls were made to them. I'm certain that arson investigators will be checking into these claims as well as personal finances of these people. were they behind on payments? was house for sale? it would be interesting to know what they took to motel with them.did they take personal records or keepsakes? I truly hope it wasn't a case of arson. The 1st thing I thought of was the house filling up w/ gas. The trigger could of been a fridge kicking on or anything that emits a small spark. Bad furnace...lazy HVAC guy...big house...big BOOM. Or it coulda been the aliens, who knows. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26174012 United Kingdom 11/12/2012 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another thought that just won't stop bouncing around in my head....though I'm not certain how we'd even go about validating it.....Is the bird/bat pic an insignia of a Military Unit? Also.....we've heard that eyewitnesses claimed to have heard a "roaring sound" PRIOR to the explosion, someone stating it "sounded like an airplane about to crash". We've seen what COULD be debris from a small plane(Drone?) but we are missing a crater to lend credibility to a conventional missile strike. The blast effected everything in the House BUT what would be 2 of the 5 most logical sources of Natural Gas in the Home, the stove & water heater(missing are fireplace, central heating, gas clothes dryer). Did a plane/drone crash or was (without knowing where this lies in relation to aquifers & fault lines) another type of weapon involved to ignite a natural(as in coming from the ground) gas emission in a less populated area? Just a few thoughts after reading some of the many pages of thoughts/pics/info. Quoting: remjr1 219210 Came across lots on information re. a Vampire Squadron....their symbol is this.. [link to www.google.co.nz] That looks very closely like that bizzare image in the pic on WishTV. That IS the image on that picture, the one with the insulation dropping..... |
El Quisqueyano User ID: 27517723 United States 11/12/2012 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Seagal5 Ok, if that was a problem, why wasn't the gas shut off & neighbors made aware? My daughters neighbor has gas, she does not. Her home has a carbon monoxide reader, because her neighbor had a gas leak. All the surrounding neighbors were made aware, and installed readers. My point: If it was bad enough to make them rent a hotel room...this would have been known by neighbors. It's just common sense. Just FYI (in the interests of safety) a carbon monoxide reader is of no use in a gas leak. been following since beginning of thread. this article brings several questions to mind. who was called to inspect the furnace and when? why was the gas not shut off to the residence? according to the utility co., no calls were made to them. I'm certain that arson investigators will be checking into these claims as well as personal finances of these people. were they behind on payments? was house for sale? it would be interesting to know what they took to motel with them.did they take personal records or keepsakes? I truly hope it wasn't a case of arson. The 1st thing I thought of was the house filling up w/ gas. The trigger could of been a fridge kicking on or anything that emits a small spark. Bad furnace...lazy HVAC guy...big house...big BOOM. Or it coulda been the aliens, who knows. Bad furnace, neglect on the gas company and HVAC guys. Gas built up in that basement reached a spark and ignited. The concrete block basement walls acted like the barrel of a cannon and Ka-Boom!!! From the looks of it, must have been an ignition source from the 1st floor. That whole basement was full of gas, for your average, maybe about 15,000 cubic feet of Gas. Anyone have an idea what force 15,000 cubic feet of methane would have if ignited? |
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Bluemoon55 User ID: 26964045 United States 11/12/2012 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Seagal5 Ok, if that was a problem, why wasn't the gas shut off & neighbors made aware? My daughters neighbor has gas, she does not. Her home has a carbon monoxide reader, because her neighbor had a gas leak. All the surrounding neighbors were made aware, and installed readers. My point: If it was bad enough to make them rent a hotel room...this would have been known by neighbors. It's just common sense. Just FYI (in the interests of safety) a carbon monoxide reader is of no use in a gas leak. been following since beginning of thread. this article brings several questions to mind. who was called to inspect the furnace and when? why was the gas not shut off to the residence? according to the utility co., no calls were made to them. I'm certain that arson investigators will be checking into these claims as well as personal finances of these people. were they behind on payments? was house for sale? it would be interesting to know what they took to motel with them.did they take personal records or keepsakes? I truly hope it wasn't a case of arson. The 1st thing I thought of was the house filling up w/ gas. The trigger could of been a fridge kicking on or anything that emits a small spark. Bad furnace...lazy HVAC guy...big house...big BOOM. Or it coulda been the aliens, who knows. not sure what newer furnaces are like but mine had a pilot light. if the situation caused enough concern to go to motel you would think that they would have taken measures to at least have the gas shut off. wonder if any other appliances like cook stove or dryer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26165384 United States 11/12/2012 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another thought that just won't stop bouncing around in my head....though I'm not certain how we'd even go about validating it.....Is the bird/bat pic an insignia of a Military Unit? Also.....we've heard that eyewitnesses claimed to have heard a "roaring sound" PRIOR to the explosion, someone stating it "sounded like an airplane about to crash". We've seen what COULD be debris from a small plane(Drone?) but we are missing a crater to lend credibility to a conventional missile strike. The blast effected everything in the House BUT what would be 2 of the 5 most logical sources of Natural Gas in the Home, the stove & water heater(missing are fireplace, central heating, gas clothes dryer). Did a plane/drone crash or was (without knowing where this lies in relation to aquifers & fault lines) another type of weapon involved to ignite a natural(as in coming from the ground) gas emission in a less populated area? Just a few thoughts after reading some of the many pages of thoughts/pics/info. Quoting: remjr1 219210 Came across lots on information re. a Vampire Squadron....their symbol is this.. [link to www.google.co.nz] That looks very closely like that bizzare image in the pic on WishTV. That IS the image on that picture, the one with the insulation dropping..... 44th fighter squadron [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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closing eyes User ID: 24721119 United States 11/12/2012 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Asked this on another thread with no answer. Where has the people gone from the 200 bused people? Has any of those people that where first on scene spoken out about what they thought or saw? Where are they? If you woke up breathing, you have another chance! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310912 United States 11/12/2012 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saw an article early Sunday morning about possibility of copper thrives having stripped the house of the copper. Which is a normal occurance. But strange in lieu of the timeline of events.. the house was occupied only a week ago, before aforementioned family went to hotel. The house was reportedly for sale, but accounts differ. This new comment about the furnace is also peculiar. I worked renovating forclosed homes for a bank in Texas and if there was a problem with the furnace it would have been handled correctly the first time in light of future law suits. Now in a post from this thread, the owner of the house is directly stated as saying that the furnace problem was cleared up. I'm going to say a furnace blast is also unlikely because of the chain of events. 'Secondary blast heard' damages at a far distance. None of this adds up, it stinks. |
scorpio66 (OP) User ID: 2453057 United States 11/12/2012 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Asked this on another thread with no answer. Quoting: closing eyes Where has the people gone from the 200 bused people? Has any of those people that where first on scene spoken out about what they thought or saw? Where are they? I saw somewhere yesterday that all but about 15 people had been picked up by friends or family and that the Red Cross was setting the rest up in one of the local churches. Then yesterday some of the residents were allowed to go home and collect a few belongings but were not allowed to stay. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26143620 United States 11/12/2012 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.dailyjournal.net] Quoting: The_Brave This was brought to my attention... A Local Marine and Firefighter "Shot" himself in the chest while arguing with brother in law police officer the night of the explosion at 8:55 PM This was about 5 miles from the explosion... Thought this was worth noting. Thank you for that information! Alot comes to my mind with this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26143620 United States 11/12/2012 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not sure if this story was worth mentioning but there was a potential gas leak at south side dentist office later dismissed.... Quoting: LadyLucy [link to www.fox59.com] this happened like 5 hours ago, so i'm a little behind the times.. Not sure what I think about these random gas leak claims. It could be due to people being on edge. I know I would be. |
scorpio66 (OP) User ID: 2453057 United States 11/12/2012 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some good ideas posted but I'm still not seeing it exactly. I still think it's a weird picture placed in with all the disaster scene pictures. I do think it is a car hood or windshield as the debris seems to have a bit of a reflection in some spots. It's *probably* just some weird sticker someone bought at the Walmart and slapped on their car, BUT something seems very off about it. I flipped through that slideshow on WishTV a couple of times before I even noticed the image in the picture so even though it seems really obvious to us now, I bet average folks flipping through didn't catch it as on first glimpse it looks like a sky shot of debris falling. The mysterious inclusion in the slideshow towards it being a "tag" or whatever you guys were saying is the code for someone leaving a message. But who? And what message? And why? Anyway, I hope we can find it if only so we can rule it out as being a weird loose end! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26143620 United States 11/12/2012 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another thought that just won't stop bouncing around in my head....though I'm not certain how we'd even go about validating it.....Is the bird/bat pic an insignia of a Military Unit? Also.....we've heard that eyewitnesses claimed to have heard a "roaring sound" PRIOR to the explosion, someone stating it "sounded like an airplane about to crash". We've seen what COULD be debris from a small plane(Drone?) but we are missing a crater to lend credibility to a conventional missile strike. The blast effected everything in the House BUT what would be 2 of the 5 most logical sources of Natural Gas in the Home, the stove & water heater(missing are fireplace, central heating, gas clothes dryer). Did a plane/drone crash or was (without knowing where this lies in relation to aquifers & fault lines) another type of weapon involved to ignite a natural(as in coming from the ground) gas emission in a less populated area? Just a few thoughts after reading some of the many pages of thoughts/pics/info. Quoting: remjr1 219210 Came across lots on information re. a Vampire Squadron....their symbol is this.. [link to www.google.co.nz] ALSO OF INTEREST...read this morning... ENE news article...of interest are comments down the bottom.. opechi November 12, 2012 at 1:12 pm Log in to Reply If you see my comment that was consensus in packed to the brim chat room I was in last night. In addition to what I said in comment several people online from neighborhood were there and all reported symptoms of feeling dizzy. opechi November 12, 2012 at 1:06 pm Log in to Reply Hi everyone. I am always here but rarely comment. I was in a fully packed chat room last night with 150 smart people trying to figure this out. KNOW: meth lab, gas, bomb all RULED OUT per police. No definitive answers but all seemed to feel more research on TELSA needed to be done. I am not an expert on that subject. Several people online from neighborhood all described feeling something strange but did not feel earthquake. There have been a dozen HEART ATTACKS at least since explosion. [link to enenews.com] Could be related to the shock of the situation but is interesting to say the least... Wow, good find.....Hope you see this one SowingSeed and OP. |