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Message Subject A Strange thing happened in Church today
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Liar! Keep denying Christ fool. But, when you tell others to deny Christ, you are carrying the devil's water!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18225135


First off, the devil only lives in hearts that believe in it.
This is what authority wants.
I do not believe it. This coming from 43 years of wasting my time of being a Roman Catholic. I have broken away from "religion" And I am more spiritual then anytime in my life because of it.

From the book of wisdom: (Bible)
Jesus was once asked when the kingdom of God would come. The kingdom of God, Jesus replied, is not something people will be able to see and point to. Then came these striking words: “Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21)

Much love!


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27488551




Regarding the first vid - blaming all of the world's evil deeds on religion is just lame, when most of the problems stem from competition for wealth, resources, land and power.

The second, for a start - the world isn't evil, satan is, and he has rule over it, for a time.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I haven't had time to watch these videos, but I think it's certainly true that many people assign too much blame to religion. But should religion as a whole be totally exempt from scrutiny when trying to decide how we've come to this 'pretty pass' in history?

Haven't religious leaders preached both sides 'into the trenches' in wars, assuring "Gott mit uns" ,whoever the "uns" addressed? I was a child, but remember distinctly the first time I heard our preacher in our extremely liberal protestant church, pray for 'our side' in Vietnam. [Maybe that was when the Quakers who'd met with us for years, decided they really needed to get their own place.] I was in Thailand [not as a sex-tourist,I swear!] and was surprised to see on TV a Buddhist monk on a military plane accompanying home a casket of a Thai soldier killed abroad. In both instances I think these clergy-persons were combining 'church and state', which is fine as long as it's a conscious choice for an individual, and hopefully not a state-coerced un-choice.
I was simply telling you where that scripture was above, since the other poster didn't come back. I wasn't endorsing their complete identification of 'Babylon' w/ Catholic Church.
I completely agree with what you said here --
" the world isn't evil, satan is, and he has rule over it, for a time."
There are wonderful, lovable people in every religion [and in the military too], and those who, if not-so-wonderful and -lovable could still change.
THat 'Babylon' is portrayed as female may make 'beasts' or 'world powers' portrayed as male, try to shift all responsibility onto her, which is what I think you've noticed, and pointed out above. God won't be fooled either, if they try to claim, like Adam, "It was that woman you gave to be with me." -Because her influence will have already been removed.
If God says "Come out of her my people, if you don't want to share in her plagues", wouldn't we want to be sure we have accurate knowledge of who she is? For me, so far,this makes sense: [link to wol.jw.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10858311




While laws need to keep religion and state separate, that isn't the case with people, and if a country is at war, all her citizens are at war, too, although they can conscientiously object of course.
The Catholic Church upholds the right to defense and just war -

"nothing in Scripture says that legitimately defending oneself or one’s country which results in the killing of another is an intrinsically evil act"

[link to www.scripturecatholic.com]

and I agree with this position.


I can't agree with your definition of Babylon, given in the link to the Jehovah Witness site, Revelations clearly refers to a city, not a religion.

[link to www.catholic.com]


But thanks, once again, I've learnt something :)
 
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