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Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?

 
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I think OP is making alot of assumptions regarding heterosexual men. I honestly find most heterosexual men nice to be around and most don't have any issues with homosexuality

Honestly why would anyone have any objections to homosexuality unless they have emotions about it? Why would you feel emotions about something unless you have something inside you you are rejecting? If you didn't have homosexual feelings you wouldn't react emotionally to homosexuality

Most homo-hating is by those who are rejecting their own homosexual feelings. Otherwise there wouldn't be any emotions about it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26551418


This is an example of bad logic. You could hate a lot of things without being secretly any of them! If you hate alcoholics, are you secretly an alcoholic? If you get emotional when someone wants to fight wars and kill people, does it mean you, deep inside, actually are a serial killer but hiding it? The list can go on forever. Basically, what you're saying suggests that if people hate something it is because they actually love it. Come on, this kind of logic is simply ridiculous!
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Want to freak out a homophobic heterosexual?

Just tell him that it is the STRAIGHT man who is sexually aroused by:

lipstick
perfume
make up
long flowing hair
high heels
lingerie
jewelry

Not the gay.

Gay's mock femininity in drag - the hyper expression of feminine characteristics-- huge hair, elongated eyelashes, over-the-top costumes. (umm. gay pride, anyone?)

Why does the straight man finds femininity SEXUALLY attractive? Why is he SEXUALLY AROUSED by attributes a gay man scoffs at? Herein lies the psycho-sexual connection heterosexuality and femininity.

If you want the essence of true 'masculinity' you see it in the SEXUAL connection between two men, not between a man and a woman. The hetero man prefers to remain "a man" while his female counterpart inhabits all the feminine characteristics he works so hard at rejecting in himself. (umm. the Biblical notion of the man finding a 'replacement' for his mother, perhaps?)

Many straight men love to watch 2 women go at it......but not 2 men.

Why? Straight men contradict themselves in many ways. Effeminate gay men are the obvious ones and hence skewer the notion that gays are feminine. Not so obvious are the gay men who appear perfectly straight.

But because straight men generally do NOT find feminine men sexually attractive, it is the person who inhabits the trait that is sexually stimulating and not the trait itself. So we return again to what goes on inside the head of the straight male--- What does he find sexual about the OTHER sex inhabiting FEMININE characteristics?

I'm gay (of course). To piss people off, I sometimes say that homosexuality is nature's defense against our reckless male human nature--wars, aggression, hyper-expressions of angst and power. Nature's solution to the human problem is extinction: an evolution towards homosexuality

Hence.....homosexual men are........ EVOLVED.

(This future freaks straight men out)

(now...watch how straight men on GLP absorb this)
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I think OP is making alot of assumptions regarding heterosexual men. I honestly find most heterosexual men nice to be around and most don't have any issues with homosexuality

Honestly why would anyone have any objections to homosexuality unless they have emotions about it? Why would you feel emotions about something unless you have something inside you you are rejecting? If you didn't have homosexual feelings you wouldn't react emotionally to homosexuality

Most homo-hating is by those who are rejecting their own homosexual feelings. Otherwise there wouldn't be any emotions about it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26551418


This is an example of bad logic. You could hate a lot of things without being secretly any of them! If you hate alcoholics, are you secretly an alcoholic? If you get emotional when someone wants to fight wars and kill people, does it mean you, deep inside, actually are a serial killer but hiding it? The list can go on forever. Basically, what you're saying suggests that if people hate something it is because they actually love it. Come on, this kind of logic is simply ridiculous!
 Quoting: what 27470825


Your booze analogy is false. Actually any kind of analogy with sexuality is false, since sexuality is the strongest force in Humanity.

Stronger than the need to aquire money, since that accumulation in many many aspects are related to make someone SEXUALY "appealing".

So no. The analogies don't work.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Want to freak out a homophobic heterosexual?

Just tell him that it is the STRAIGHT man who is sexually aroused by:

lipstick
perfume
make up
long flowing hair
high heels
lingerie
jewelry

Not the gay.

Gay's mock femininity in drag - the hyper expression of feminine characteristics-- huge hair, elongated eyelashes, over-the-top costumes. (umm. gay pride, anyone?)

Why does the straight man finds femininity SEXUALLY attractive? Why is he SEXUALLY AROUSED by attributes a gay man scoffs at? Herein lies the psycho-sexual connection heterosexuality and femininity.

If you want the essence of true 'masculinity' you see it in the SEXUAL connection between two men, not between a man and a woman. The hetero man prefers to remain "a man" while his female counterpart inhabits all the feminine characteristics he works so hard at rejecting in himself. (umm. the Biblical notion of the man finding a 'replacement' for his mother, perhaps?)

Many straight men love to watch 2 women go at it......but not 2 men.

Why? Straight men contradict themselves in many ways. Effeminate gay men are the obvious ones and hence skewer the notion that gays are feminine. Not so obvious are the gay men who appear perfectly straight.

But because straight men generally do NOT find feminine men sexually attractive, it is the person who inhabits the trait that is sexually stimulating and not the trait itself. So we return again to what goes on inside the head of the straight male--- What does he find sexual about the OTHER sex inhabiting FEMININE characteristics?

I'm gay (of course). To piss people off, I sometimes say that homosexuality is nature's defense against our reckless male human nature--wars, aggression, hyper-expressions of angst and power. Nature's solution to the human problem is extinction: an evolution towards homosexuality

Hence.....homosexual men are........ EVOLVED.

(This future freaks straight men out)

(now...watch how straight men on GLP absorb this)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27507260


You are right at a certain extent. They do love lipstick, pantyhose, etc...

But a lot of gays also like to dress up as women. And ENJOY it very much so. Not only to mock.

But the bottom of it is that we truly are more advaced than them, and they hate our asses for it.

That is why the constant historical persectution.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
i think having gay people is good for the population.
some of them are super loving parents for adopties. wich is good. and im pretty sure that even if you have gay parents that doesnt mean you will be gay.

it seems to be a natural reaction to over population?
i hope this doesnt seem rude
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it seems to be a natural reaction to over population?
i hope this doesnt seem rude
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Gays being a minority, tend to migrate in to cities, easier to find other gays ... so it looks like high population density means more gays
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You can't ask people not to THINK a certain way about others. But everyone is required not to ACT on how they feel.
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I'm not asking that. I'm asking whether this recent transition in the attitude of straight men towards gay men is authentic or a put on. You may despise blacks, but not act on that. Does that comfort the black man? My concern is gay men are simply taking straight men to literally, and not seeing that they are tolerating us, but not accepting homosexual expression as a legitimate form of love. I do think I'm onto something here.
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It is put on......and not authentic.


Any other questions?
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
it seems to be a natural reaction to over population?
i hope this doesnt seem rude
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Gays being a minority, tend to migrate in to cities, easier to find other gays ... so it looks like high population density means more gays
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you just made me realise its not a reaction to over population its just that if there are more people now. and the same % is gay that means theres automaticly more gay people if there are more people.

and i have no problem with that at all. most of em are very nice
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Our schools teach it as okay and have for quite a while now. It is really stressed in college.

What does it matter how it came to be, or if it is fake?

Live, be happy.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I think most people are bisexual physically, and the ones that can't come to term with this end up developing a rage to compensate for their loss in metal stability. Not saying every dude wants to ram man ass and every girl wants to scissor their Wednesdays away, but on some kind of level, every human as shades of bi.
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I think most people are bisexual physically, and the ones that can't come to term with this end up developing a rage to compensate for their loss in metal stability. Not saying every dude wants to ram man ass and every girl wants to scissor their Wednesdays away, but on some kind of level, every human as shades of bi.
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I think OP is making alot of assumptions regarding heterosexual men. I honestly find most heterosexual men nice to be around and most don't have any issues with homosexuality

Honestly why would anyone have any objections to homosexuality unless they have emotions about it? Why would you feel emotions about something unless you have something inside you you are rejecting? If you didn't have homosexual feelings you wouldn't react emotionally to homosexuality

Most homo-hating is by those who are rejecting their own homosexual feelings. Otherwise there wouldn't be any emotions about it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26551418


This is an example of bad logic. You could hate a lot of things without being secretly any of them! If you hate alcoholics, are you secretly an alcoholic? If you get emotional when someone wants to fight wars and kill people, does it mean you, deep inside, actually are a serial killer but hiding it? The list can go on forever. Basically, what you're saying suggests that if people hate something it is because they actually love it. Come on, this kind of logic is simply ridiculous!
 Quoting: what 27470825


Your booze analogy is false. Actually any kind of analogy with sexuality is false, since sexuality is the strongest force in Humanity.

Stronger than the need to aquire money, since that accumulation in many many aspects are related to make someone SEXUALY "appealing".

So no. The analogies don't work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420


OK, but you didn't get my point. I talked about hatred. That hatred has nothing to do with whether or not you're actually hiding your real feelings masking them as hatred. Analogies work if you actually want them to. People feel hateful emotions for many different reason. You can't generalize like the person I responded to that it is only because they are trying to mask their real feelings.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
"You've just got a bit o' the old homophobia, it'll clear up"

its mostly down to people realizing it doesn't matter and that homophobes usually have gay tendencies themselves.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
first world problems
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I think you have a point about the media thing. Almost every show you watch now has a character in it that is gay. On the other hand, I also think some people have figured out that its not worth being worked up over it when it has no impact on anyone but the person(s) in question.
 Quoting: Guenwyfar


I truly believe that if a man wants to be gay, then he should be allowed to be gay. However, when that gay then turns around and DEMANDS that everyone accept them and ALL of their demands, when they refuse to allowed any demands upon them, then there is a very real problem.

Didn't our neighbor decided that parents are NOT allowed to know what the gay agenda IS teaching to our children in school? Didn't a European country decided that if a parent rejects the homosexual agenda, then their children will be forcibly removed from the home?

It seems to me that the gay agenda is the problem, not the homosexual. Problem with that is that so many homosexuals identify themselves through the agenda, that it has become the voice and demands of all homosexuals.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I think most people are bisexual physically, and the ones that can't come to term with this end up developing a rage to compensate for their loss in metal stability. Not saying every dude wants to ram man ass and every girl wants to scissor their Wednesdays away, but on some kind of level, every human as shades of bi.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26764444


You are completely correct.

Anyone who has spent time on any webcam site knows this to be the truth.

The thing is, the "illuminati" has access to all the porn data consumed on Earth, and they don't say a fucking word.

Tom Cruise is in the closet to make money, they say!
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I think you have a point about the media thing. Almost every show you watch now has a character in it that is gay. On the other hand, I also think some people have figured out that its not worth being worked up over it when it has no impact on anyone but the person(s) in question.
 Quoting: Guenwyfar


I truly believe that if a man wants to be gay, then he should be allowed to be gay. However, when that gay then turns around and DEMANDS that everyone accept them and ALL of their demands, when they refuse to allowed any demands upon them, then there is a very real problem.

Didn't our neighbor decided that parents are NOT allowed to know what the gay agenda IS teaching to our children in school? Didn't a European country decided that if a parent rejects the homosexual agenda, then their children will be forcibly removed from the home?

It seems to me that the gay agenda is the problem, not the homosexual. Problem with that is that so many homosexuals identify themselves through the agenda, that it has become the voice and demands of all homosexuals.
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stfu
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I think most people are bisexual physically, and the ones that can't come to term with this end up developing a rage to compensate for their loss in metal stability.
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Nah. There was a brief time when I was a teen and really into music and certain underground cultures that I thought it would be "cool" to be bi, so it's not as if I've ever had a problem with it. But for me it just isn't so. Not only am I not the least bit attracted to other males, they pretty much gross me out. Always hated when they'd suddenly start focusing on a guy during a sex scene.

It's no different than if I had a friend who really liked getting pissed on. Do whatever floats your boat, but I don't want any part of it.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I think most people are bisexual physically, and the ones that can't come to term with this end up developing a rage to compensate for their loss in metal stability. Not saying every dude wants to ram man ass and every girl wants to scissor their Wednesdays away, but on some kind of level, every human as shades of bi.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26764444


You are completely correct.

Anyone who has spent time on any webcam site knows this to be the truth.

The thing is, the "illuminati" has access to all the porn data consumed on Earth, and they don't say a fucking word.

Tom Cruise is in the closet to make money, they say!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420


Of course a Brazilian would understand this! ;)

It could be something as small as comparing your body to another of the same sex you'd define as "attractive" (As in: If I look like THAT guy/girl, I'll be attractive too so I can bang people of the opposite sex!)

Or it could be something as major as having sex with both genders.

But everyone has at least a small tinge of it. And furthermore, people take sex when they can get it. If society were a bit more carefree on sex, if STDs were nonexistant, EVERYONE would be banging EVERYONE.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I think you have a point about the media thing. Almost every show you watch now has a character in it that is gay. On the other hand, I also think some people have figured out that its not worth being worked up over it when it has no impact on anyone but the person(s) in question.
 Quoting: Guenwyfar


I truly believe that if a man wants to be gay, then he should be allowed to be gay. However, when that gay then turns around and DEMANDS that everyone accept them and ALL of their demands, when they refuse to allowed any demands upon them, then there is a very real problem.

Didn't our neighbor decided that parents are NOT allowed to know what the gay agenda IS teaching to our children in school? Didn't a European country decided that if a parent rejects the homosexual agenda, then their children will be forcibly removed from the home?

It seems to me that the gay agenda is the problem, not the homosexual. Problem with that is that so many homosexuals identify themselves through the agenda, that it has become the voice and demands of all homosexuals.
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stfu
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Prove me wrong asshole!
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


I am extremely alpha male. Never have had a gay thought in my life. Have had some gay friends. My father and sister were and are gay. I believe my mother was by-sexual. I'm the only true straight in my family. I don't care if people are gay. In fact, I believe it gives a little balance. I'm also part Cherokee. Indians don't isolate "gays."
Cherokee people believed in another gender which can be translated as "two-spirit" or a person who fulfilled both male and female paths.
They were more of a link between all members and typically served as spiritual leaders within the community.
So you are welcome to shake shells and weave all you like Two-Spirit brother. Doesn't bother me.
Wado, & happy trails.
Klaxon
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
It's a generation thing, younger people have grown up to accept it as society is more tolerable towards gays and older guys really don't care all that much because they're proved themselves sexually and banged loads of women so aren't insecure about their sexual orientation.

Tbh i find fag hags really intolerable as a straight male because they're just latching on to a cultural thing rather than judging and individual by their merits. It's really emarassing sometimes to see a girl latch into a gay guy like a leetch and i'll just feel a bit sorry for her.

However, i'd say 95% of the gay guys i've known have been really nice decent people and that's all i can ask of anyone. If someone doesn't fuck with me then i'll have no reason to fuck with them. Gay, straight, black, white, it makes no difference in my eyes.
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Its a bit more complex. Most violence and hate is not from straight guys, its from self hating gay and bis. I've know all sorts of "mannly" straight guys, bikers, rednecks, almost never a problem. Fem religious wackos, those are the big problem, especially when they manage to lead people.
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They made it gay to hate gays... what happened to the good ole days where real men could freely chase they gays down and cut their hair with scissors??
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Of course a Brazilian would understand this! ;)

It could be something as small as comparing your body to another of the same sex you'd define as "attractive" (As in: If I look like THAT guy/girl, I'll be attractive too so I can bang people of the opposite sex!)

Or it could be something as major as having sex with both genders.

But everyone has at least a small tinge of it. And furthermore, people take sex when they can get it. If society were a bit more carefree on sex, if STDs were nonexistant, EVERYONE would be banging EVERYONE.
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Yes. STDs were a very important reason that people had almost non-sexual life-styles. Or very monogamous, back then.

But today we have the internet, where the transmission of STDs is nule - for now! ;) - but STILL the "illuminati" pushes repression of sexuality. While being trhoughly depraved themselves!
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OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


I am extremely alpha male. Never have had a gay thought in my life. Have had some gay friends. My father and sister were and are gay. I believe my mother was by-sexual. I'm the only true straight in my family. I don't care if people are gay. In fact, I believe it gives a little balance. I'm also part Cherokee. Indians don't isolate "gays."
Cherokee people believed in another gender which can be translated as "two-spirit" or a person who fulfilled both male and female paths.
They were more of a link between all members and typically served as spiritual leaders within the community.
So you are welcome to shake shells and weave all you like Two-Spirit brother. Doesn't bother me.
Wado, & happy trails.
Klaxon
 Quoting: Top Hat


That is very cool about the native culture Klaxon! And then whe compare your culture - that was exterminated mercilessly by "them", who preach now that they did all they did to provide us with "choice" - and the "illuminated" culture that we live in today, who is more right????

A culture where priests condemn "two-spirited" people as dirtier than dirt, and then procede to target same-sex little boys for sexual gratification, with the approval of the masses.

All institutions imposed by "them" has this homophobic characteristic.

Always had!

Thank you for your LIVING EXAMPLE.

We, gays, thank you very much for a different point of refference! So timely now that the attrocities have been commited for a good while now.

The world that they want to create is so fucking hypocritical.

They all are nasty behind walls beyond normal understanding!
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
What you and other people do is your own business. The trouble is that gays and lesbians throw their sexuality in everyone's face, and then wonder why people resent them.

You're gay. That's great. Now shut up about it.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


You can't make everyone like you man. Some people will always be averse to homosexuality. As long as they aren't using violence against you I would just go on with life and not care about what other people are really thinking. Tolerance does not equal acceptance, nor should it.
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Tolerance doesn't equal acceptance. Fine! That's honest. It also means that gay men should stop acting like straight men are there buds, because that will never be the case. You can train a lion to tolerate a lamb in its cage, but it doesn't change the fact that it's a lion. Frankly, straight men have demonstrated themselves to be too cruel over the ages to be reformed. Gay men better remember that...
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You actually seem at least as intolerant and biased against straight men as you believe them to be against you. Talking about Gay/Straight when people are just people, with different orientations. You need to wake up and smell the 21st century buddy.

Attitudes like yours are NOT acceptable. Hate is NEVER acceptable. One day, you are going to have to accept those who are different from you, and just deal with it.

Straight men who don't hate gay men are HERE, we are PROUD, and we are NOT GOING TO HIDE IT ANYMORE! 5a
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
You are genetically flawed.
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There. That's better. See what I mean? Well, praise Jesus! We found an honest one!
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a) this might not be entirely incorrect.

b) dna can be re-aligned just a sit can be tampered with

c) we live in a reality based on polarities; light/dark, positive negative, etc. it is so far-fetched to consider that if you are gay there might be a health-related reason? I don't think so.

d) To dislike someone for any reason is wrong and true Christians would not judge someone for this... demon-spirits working through people might use this as a reason to create division and hatred among us, that is all...

e) some gay people are changing their sexual orientation to straight and there are modalities, including certain hormones and nutrients, as well as others, to do this...

f) Another good example of this is reports of GMO crops reverting back to non-gmo... given certain parameters...

g) we are energy beings and anything is possible..

h) rock on, if you want to be gay!

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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


The government has mandated this perversion. Nothing more. You can water board, but you cannot make one accept it.





GLP