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Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?

 
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OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


I am extremely alpha male. Never have had a gay thought in my life. Have had some gay friends. My father and sister were and are gay. I believe my mother was by-sexual. I'm the only true straight in my family. I don't care if people are gay. In fact, I believe it gives a little balance. I'm also part Cherokee. Indians don't isolate "gays."
Cherokee people believed in another gender which can be translated as "two-spirit" or a person who fulfilled both male and female paths.
They were more of a link between all members and typically served as spiritual leaders within the community.
So you are welcome to shake shells and weave all you like Two-Spirit brother. Doesn't bother me.
Wado, & happy trails.
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It's a generation thing, younger people have grown up to accept it as society is more tolerable towards gays and older guys really don't care all that much because they're proved themselves sexually and banged loads of women so aren't insecure about their sexual orientation.

Tbh i find fag hags really intolerable as a straight male because they're just latching on to a cultural thing rather than judging and individual by their merits. It's really emarassing sometimes to see a girl latch into a gay guy like a leetch and i'll just feel a bit sorry for her.

However, i'd say 95% of the gay guys i've known have been really nice decent people and that's all i can ask of anyone. If someone doesn't fuck with me then i'll have no reason to fuck with them. Gay, straight, black, white, it makes no difference in my eyes.
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Its a bit more complex. Most violence and hate is not from straight guys, its from self hating gay and bis. I've know all sorts of "mannly" straight guys, bikers, rednecks, almost never a problem. Fem religious wackos, those are the big problem, especially when they manage to lead people.
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They made it gay to hate gays... what happened to the good ole days where real men could freely chase they gays down and cut their hair with scissors??
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Of course a Brazilian would understand this! ;)

It could be something as small as comparing your body to another of the same sex you'd define as "attractive" (As in: If I look like THAT guy/girl, I'll be attractive too so I can bang people of the opposite sex!)

Or it could be something as major as having sex with both genders.

But everyone has at least a small tinge of it. And furthermore, people take sex when they can get it. If society were a bit more carefree on sex, if STDs were nonexistant, EVERYONE would be banging EVERYONE.
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Yes. STDs were a very important reason that people had almost non-sexual life-styles. Or very monogamous, back then.

But today we have the internet, where the transmission of STDs is nule - for now! ;) - but STILL the "illuminati" pushes repression of sexuality. While being trhoughly depraved themselves!
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OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


I am extremely alpha male. Never have had a gay thought in my life. Have had some gay friends. My father and sister were and are gay. I believe my mother was by-sexual. I'm the only true straight in my family. I don't care if people are gay. In fact, I believe it gives a little balance. I'm also part Cherokee. Indians don't isolate "gays."
Cherokee people believed in another gender which can be translated as "two-spirit" or a person who fulfilled both male and female paths.
They were more of a link between all members and typically served as spiritual leaders within the community.
So you are welcome to shake shells and weave all you like Two-Spirit brother. Doesn't bother me.
Wado, & happy trails.
Klaxon
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That is very cool about the native culture Klaxon! And then whe compare your culture - that was exterminated mercilessly by "them", who preach now that they did all they did to provide us with "choice" - and the "illuminated" culture that we live in today, who is more right????

A culture where priests condemn "two-spirited" people as dirtier than dirt, and then procede to target same-sex little boys for sexual gratification, with the approval of the masses.

All institutions imposed by "them" has this homophobic characteristic.

Always had!

Thank you for your LIVING EXAMPLE.

We, gays, thank you very much for a different point of refference! So timely now that the attrocities have been commited for a good while now.

The world that they want to create is so fucking hypocritical.

They all are nasty behind walls beyond normal understanding!
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What you and other people do is your own business. The trouble is that gays and lesbians throw their sexuality in everyone's face, and then wonder why people resent them.

You're gay. That's great. Now shut up about it.
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OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


You can't make everyone like you man. Some people will always be averse to homosexuality. As long as they aren't using violence against you I would just go on with life and not care about what other people are really thinking. Tolerance does not equal acceptance, nor should it.
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Tolerance doesn't equal acceptance. Fine! That's honest. It also means that gay men should stop acting like straight men are there buds, because that will never be the case. You can train a lion to tolerate a lamb in its cage, but it doesn't change the fact that it's a lion. Frankly, straight men have demonstrated themselves to be too cruel over the ages to be reformed. Gay men better remember that...
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You actually seem at least as intolerant and biased against straight men as you believe them to be against you. Talking about Gay/Straight when people are just people, with different orientations. You need to wake up and smell the 21st century buddy.

Attitudes like yours are NOT acceptable. Hate is NEVER acceptable. One day, you are going to have to accept those who are different from you, and just deal with it.

Straight men who don't hate gay men are HERE, we are PROUD, and we are NOT GOING TO HIDE IT ANYMORE! 5a
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You are genetically flawed.
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There. That's better. See what I mean? Well, praise Jesus! We found an honest one!
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


a) this might not be entirely incorrect.

b) dna can be re-aligned just a sit can be tampered with

c) we live in a reality based on polarities; light/dark, positive negative, etc. it is so far-fetched to consider that if you are gay there might be a health-related reason? I don't think so.

d) To dislike someone for any reason is wrong and true Christians would not judge someone for this... demon-spirits working through people might use this as a reason to create division and hatred among us, that is all...

e) some gay people are changing their sexual orientation to straight and there are modalities, including certain hormones and nutrients, as well as others, to do this...

f) Another good example of this is reports of GMO crops reverting back to non-gmo... given certain parameters...

g) we are energy beings and anything is possible..

h) rock on, if you want to be gay!

:)
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OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


The government has mandated this perversion. Nothing more. You can water board, but you cannot make one accept it.
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Why must gay men run around with their hands in the air proclaiming to be gay?

We get it!

Go and be gay... you don't need our approval
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That is a general consensus! I'm straight and can not remember ever telling someone I am heterosexual.

I'm not aggressive toward gays, but if one got fresh I would start swinging.
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You know, its kind of frowned upon to give you folks a hard time nowadays. So we really just keep it behind closed doors, kind of like we do with women and minorities.

You won't get it to your face, but I assure you, the second you leave the room its a fucking free for all.

You know how I know I can trust a man? I say "Fa--ot", "C--t" and "N---r" in front of him. If he doesn't flinch at any of those, we're on the same team.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
to be gay is not a option, it is demonic possession. the satanic forces who controls this planet is making it ok to be gay, using msm to indoctrinate people and pervert humankind. Its part of the great plan to bring about the antichrist, he himself father of homosexuality, and homosexuals. Only those who saw the light really understands what is happening.

When two people of the same sex have an intercourse, always there are demons in the scene, watching and delighting, satanic energies floating all around, kind of a summoning of spirits, or a portal. Thats why this practice is forbiden by all religions on earth, including spiritism, and this is why god condems the one who practice it and even the one who agrees with it, the only sin you are condemned even if you dont practice, only agree. (romans 1:24-29)

Ever wondered why all satanic rituals always have homosexuals relationships?

You, homosexual, remember: its not you, this kind of desire doesnt comes from you, its a invader of your mind, and you can repel it.. be strong, fight against it.. demad him to leave in name of Jesus Christ. No one is ever born homosexual.
World is full of ex gays, but you never see in msm.. guess why?
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No, they just want you out in the open when judgement comes.
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Maybe the younger generation have changed their attitudes. Honestly, I don't see acceptance overall. Closing in on 50 here. Had a lonely childhood living in the sticks.

Went into the military, discovered the gym and my life improved beyond measure. When your well built, people just won't believe your gay. It would take months for people to figure out I was gay, but by then, I was made the exception. "You don't act like those others". Right, bullshit. Your just afraid of me or you really to do like me as a person.

GLP is not a good measure of acceptance. We have the rednecks and their offspring still making disparaging remarks. But oh well, God is fair. I don't live in a trailer park and have done well in life.
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I think most people are bisexual physically, and the ones that can't come to term with this end up developing a rage to compensate for their loss in metal stability. Not saying every dude wants to ram man ass and every girl wants to scissor their Wednesdays away, but on some kind of level, every human as shades of bi.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26764444


Taught HS for decades. The above is true. The changing culture has made homosexuality very accepted by the youth.

Most humans are bi-sexual in nature but lean by degrees more toward hetero.

However, at that age, many are just not sure of their sexuality--hense a lot of confused kids.
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to be gay is not a option, it is demonic possession. the satanic forces who controls this planet is making it ok to be gay, using msm to indoctrinate people and pervert humankind. Its part of the great plan to bring about the antichrist, he himself father of homosexuality, and homosexuals. Only those who saw the light really understands what is happening.

When two people of the same sex have an intercourse, always there are demons in the scene, watching and delighting, satanic energies floating all around, kind of a summoning of spirits, or a portal. Thats why this practice is forbiden by all religions on earth, including spiritism, and this is why god condems the one who practice it and even the one who agrees with it, the only sin you are condemned even if you dont practice, only agree. (romans 1:24-29)

Ever wondered why all satanic rituals always have homosexuals relationships?

You, homosexual, remember: its not you, this kind of desire doesnt comes from you, its a invader of your mind, and you can repel it.. be strong, fight against it.. demad him to leave in name of Jesus Christ. No one is ever born homosexual.
World is full of ex gays, but you never see in msm.. guess why?
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this might be true, but it seems likely that we are all subject to demonic influence in one form or another, and no one is blameless...

seeking a relationship with God and loving our fellow human beings is the most important law, according to Jesus Christ... we cannot hope to be perfect in this life, only made perfect by humility before God and the Lord's prayer...

many hetero men are subject to the same base "lustfulness" that you are referring to as demonic... the more I pray and read the Bible the less I tend to objectify women and feel these types of feelings...

it is true that homosexuality is pervasive in the occult and according to Kay Griggs, it is one of the fundamental means of control over the intelligence agents who are behind the scenes of world events, moving from one side to the other...

sex itself has been overly played up and made perverse... it seems like a truly loving relationship between men can exist without sex, as it can between a man and a woman...

but God's design does seem to allow for a certain amount of demonic influence as a catalyst to free will acceptance of Him and to perpetuate His creations... homosexuality may fall in the former category...

the consciousness of people in the Old Testament seems quite different to AD times, hence the reason it is specifically forbidden in the OT and not the NEw testament...

that said, Christ only speaks of marriage and divorce between men and women... likely since homosexuals are not traditionally a culture seeking to raise children...

free will is not so simple in its expression and God's creation can take many forms... so long as wanton hedonism is not the result, I do not see the issue of homosexuality as anyones business and if they want to marry, it seems like a step in the right direction, provided they live up to the higher values marriage vows imply... every truly loving relationship is not based on sex.

:)
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I think most people are bisexual physically, and the ones that can't come to term with this end up developing a rage to compensate for their loss in metal stability. Not saying every dude wants to ram man ass and every girl wants to scissor their Wednesdays away, but on some kind of level, every human as shades of bi.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26764444


Taught HS for decades. The above is true. The changing culture has made homosexuality very accepted by the youth.

Most humans are bi-sexual in nature but lean by degrees more toward hetero.

However, at that age, many are just not sure of their sexuality--hense a lot of confused kids.
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This is such bullshit. Most people are not a "little bi" - but bisexual people want to believe this for some reason.

Sorry for contradicting your "expertise" in that you read out of a textbook to high school kids for a few decades - it isn't like the people writing those books have any sort of agenda.
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you callin' me a fucking liar?
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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Why must gay men run around with their hands in the air proclaiming to be gay?

We get it!

Go and be gay... you don't need our approval
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That's not what this thread is about. I'm asking a specific question. I'm tired of straight men acting cool, when it grosses them out. Be honest! Don't play cool just so it makes your girlfriend happy.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


That is precisely what this thread is about.

Get on with your life and stop seeking acceptance.
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No. I'm not trying to seek acceptance at all. I'm saying that straight men's tolerance of gay men is manufactured and phony. I don't give a damn about societal acceptance. OTHER GAY MEN AND WOMEN in my opinion are way too enamored of the recent change in consensus, and think they are accepted when they are not, and probably never will. Read the original thread.
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Why must gay men run around with their hands in the air proclaiming to be gay?

We get it!

Go and be gay... you don't need our approval
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26872344


That's not what this thread is about. I'm asking a specific question. I'm tired of straight men acting cool, when it grosses them out. Be honest! Don't play cool just so it makes your girlfriend happy.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


That is precisely what this thread is about.

Get on with your life and stop seeking acceptance.
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No. I'm not trying to seek acceptance at all. I'm saying that straight men's tolerance of gay men is manufactured and phony. I don't give a damn about societal acceptance. OTHER GAY MEN AND WOMEN in my opinion are way too enamored of the recent change in consensus, and think they are accepted when they are not, and probably never will. Read the original thread.
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Its a bit more complex. Most violence and hate is not from straight guys, its from self hating gay and bis. I've know all sorts of "mannly" straight guys, bikers, rednecks, almost never a problem. Fem religious wackos, those are the big problem, especially when they manage to lead people.
 Quoting: Fred 26677941


You think the long history of mistreatment and cruelty towards homosexuals is entirely due to self-hating homosexuals? That's really a stretch. I agree with you that on an individual basis the guys that are really angry about it do probably have some issues of having gay feelings, but that doesn't explain the shocking degree of sadism over so many centuries.
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... this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.
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You're wrong about that. This whole thread is based on a false premise. You are still hated.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I think it is generational also.
White guys and black guys used to not hang out either.

But now you see blacks guys and white guys hanging out, usually a common bond is sports.

I have a question though.

How do u suppress arousal when showering with other males in sports or military. Isn't it like a straight guy showering with girls. Do u believe in separate shower facilities.
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Being a pervert and engaging in unnatural acts puts you at risk both mentally and physically. Try to get some help.
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Society has degenerated to the level of teh Gay, that's all you need to know.
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OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


You can't make everyone like you man. Some people will always be averse to homosexuality. As long as they aren't using violence against you I would just go on with life and not care about what other people are really thinking. Tolerance does not equal acceptance, nor should it.
 Quoting: OKCconspiradude


Tolerance doesn't equal acceptance. Fine! That's honest. It also means that gay men should stop acting like straight men are there buds, because that will never be the case. You can train a lion to tolerate a lamb in its cage, but it doesn't change the fact that it's a lion. Frankly, straight men have demonstrated themselves to be too cruel over the ages to be reformed. Gay men better remember that...
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


You actually seem at least as intolerant and biased against straight men as you believe them to be against you. Talking about Gay/Straight when people are just people, with different orientations. You need to wake up and smell the 21st century buddy.

Attitudes like yours are NOT acceptable. Hate is NEVER acceptable. One day, you are going to have to accept those who are different from you, and just deal with it.

Straight men who don't hate gay men are HERE, we are PROUD, and we are NOT GOING TO HIDE IT ANYMORE! 5a
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WHERE WERE YOU THE PAST TWO THOUSAND YEARS??? If we were having this conversation 30 years ago I guarantee you wouldn't be acting all self-righteously proud of how you like gays. You would have joined the jamboree, and said how homosexuality is abnormal, an aberration, yadda yadda yadda. How do I know this? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE SAID BACK THEN. JUST LIKE THEY SAID IT FOR COUNTLESS CENTURIES BEFORE. I'm sure there were straights that would have had the guts to speak up for us, but they were a tiny minority, and didn't dare anyway because the mob would have eaten them alive.

You can act all enlightened if you like, but the fact is that no one stood up for us since time immemorial until just the past 15-20 years. My guess is with you is that you are cool to gays because it's fashionable, just as 30 years ago you would have been a dick to gays because THAT was fashionable. That's the key...you follow THE FASHION, not due to any moral courage on your part.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
You can't ask people not to THINK a certain way about others. But everyone is required not to ACT on how they feel.
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I'm not asking that. I'm asking whether this recent transition in the attitude of straight men towards gay men is authentic or a put on. You may despise blacks, but not act on that. Does that comfort the black man? My concern is gay men are simply taking straight men to literally, and not seeing that they are tolerating us, but not accepting homosexual expression as a legitimate form of love. I do think I'm onto something here.
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It's the same as with the Great Depression. The generation that grew up with the Great Depression remembers. Skip a generation and people forget which means_____________________________
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Sorry, I don't get what your'e saying.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Y gayfucks kill women/children 4 u.s. Mil
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
We're at a point in society where people are starting to come out of the haze of morality that has encumbered humanity in our recent history.

So I mean, by virtue of existing right now we make heterosexual people uncomfortable because "Am I gay" is a question nobody really wants to ask themselves even today because of societal reasons.

In my personal belief though I think hetero and gay men are completely inverted sexually and are unable to understand each-other, I think the best we could hope for in the future is perhaps understanding, until then It's best to keep it real simple with the straight people.
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Best answer yet, and from an actual homo. Thanks!

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