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Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?

 
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
You should be thanking the media. People call them the illuminati and while most people here would think it an evil thing, I think they are just men and women who see things in a better light and know that others will follow and listen to them because of this. They are helPing us see this existence as a unified existence, all in it together, not as a separate individual thing. Don't you think maybe, not only because they are successful and capable of creating stories and entertainment that people enjoy, that they are more aware of the world in which we live? Possibly more evolved mentally? And we, subconsciously recognize it and latch onto it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


YOu dont really believe this crap, do you?

They are responsible for SLAVERY.

Don't tell me that all the lashings that they gave to people's skins were for them to "teach better ways of being"....

THEY FOUGHT AGAINST OUR FIGHT FOR FREEDOM FOR AGES!!!

DUMB WHORE!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420


And if you are right then they are still controlling you and you don't even see it ;)
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
... this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.
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You're wrong about that. This whole thread is based on a false premise. You are still hated.
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Thought so.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
You should be thanking the media. People call them the illuminati and while most people here would think it an evil thing, I think they are just men and women who see things in a better light and know that others will follow and listen to them because of this. They are helPing us see this existence as a unified existence, all in it together, not as a separate individual thing. Don't you think maybe, not only because they are successful and capable of creating stories and entertainment that people enjoy, that they are more aware of the world in which we live? Possibly more evolved mentally? And we, subconsciously recognize it and latch onto it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


YOu dont really believe this crap, do you?

They are responsible for SLAVERY.

Don't tell me that all the lashings that they gave to people's skins were for them to "teach better ways of being"....

THEY FOUGHT AGAINST OUR FIGHT FOR FREEDOM FOR AGES!!!

DUMB WHORE!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420


And if you are right then they are still controlling you and you don't even see it ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


They "control" me alright.

I will certainly give you that, because you have no idea what goes on in my life.

But I can assure you that my skin has not been touched by them - unless for loving treatment - one single inch!

They dont touch me!

But if they could - and THAT HISTORY makes them not able to touch me - THEY WOULD.

Since they can't. They have used long-reaching methods. Yes, they did.

Because it is their FILTHY NATURE.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I asked this question in another thread, but no one answered it.


Could you answer a question for me then? I have never understood so many people being gay. I know that there are people who are born with both male and female parts, so they have to choose which they wish to be. But this is not the typical gay people of today. The question I have is....If a guy considers himself gay, why would he go for another guy who walks, talks and act more of a female than I am....And if a female who is gay considers herself to be a lesbian goes for a female who walks, talks and act more of a man than most men I know. And these men I know are 100% straight. Oh, and by the way I am 100% straight too.
 Quoting: Deb1964


Most gay men that I know like guys to be masculine, not feminine. Most of the lesbians I know don't like women to be butches. I think the better question is why do gay men tend to act femmy (gay women don't tend to act butch as much in my experience). And I flat out don't know why.
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Because, in the fetus fase, we were all women first.

And then we grew inside a bubble of water.

Feminine Principle.

On a female person.

That is why.
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Ooo...interesting answer. Who knows?
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Some men are being hit with the gay beam and feel that they are subconciously hateful of gays so they counter it with acceptance of the gays?
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I think it is generational also.
White guys and black guys used to not hang out either.

But now you see blacks guys and white guys hanging out, usually a common bond is sports.

I have a question though.

How do u suppress arousal when showering with other males in sports or military. Isn't it like a straight guy showering with girls. Do u believe in separate shower facilities.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7061022


Or we could shower with women! I think that's overdoing it. I think a gay man can take a shower with straight guys, and not get a boner. I can. It's one of those grey areas. Still, I think if a guy in the military is expected to kill others and take it, then he can take getting ogled by a guy in the shower. Man up!
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
You should be thanking the media. People call them the illuminati and while most people here would think it an evil thing, I think they are just men and women who see things in a better light and know that others will follow and listen to them because of this. They are helPing us see this existence as a unified existence, all in it together, not as a separate individual thing. Don't you think maybe, not only because they are successful and capable of creating stories and entertainment that people enjoy, that they are more aware of the world in which we live? Possibly more evolved mentally? And we, subconsciously recognize it and latch onto it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


YOu dont really believe this crap, do you?

They are responsible for SLAVERY.

Don't tell me that all the lashings that they gave to people's skins were for them to "teach better ways of being"....

THEY FOUGHT AGAINST OUR FIGHT FOR FREEDOM FOR AGES!!!

DUMB WHORE!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420


And if you are right then they are still controlling you and you don't even see it ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


They "control" me alright.

I will certainly give you that, because you have no idea what goes on in my life.

But I can assure you that my skin has not been touched by them - unless for loving treatment - one single inch!

They dont touch me!

But if they could - and THAT HISTORY makes them not able to touch me - THEY WOULD.

Since they can't. They have used long-reaching methods. Yes, they did.

Because it is their FILTHY NATURE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420


"you have no idea what goes on in my life" is an indication that you still prefer to blame an exterior source.

Also, they don't touch you physically. They dont need to. This "evil" you speak of is an entirely mental game. They have your emotions and you are enslaved by them and when you do Enough self reflection you will see that you have chosen to be this way. Unfortunately, these words I speak to you now will have little affect and I can only hope they linger until you find this for yourself.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Relax!! & Rejoice!! It is a brand new Day!!
 Quoting: Ole Massa is Gone!! 2631712


Relax!! & Rejoice!! It is a brand new Day!!
 Quoting: Ole Massa is Gone!! 2631712


How about we answer the question, an then relax and rejoice!!!
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Op. what are you complaining about? You're just as equal as the rest, you're the only one holding onto something.
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What. The historical record? Why can't you just answer the question, please.
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Op. what are you complaining about? You're just as equal as the rest, you're the only one holding onto something.
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What. The historical record? Why can't you just answer the question, please.
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YOu dont really believe this crap, do you?

They are responsible for SLAVERY.

Don't tell me that all the lashings that they gave to people's skins were for them to "teach better ways of being"....

THEY FOUGHT AGAINST OUR FIGHT FOR FREEDOM FOR AGES!!!

DUMB WHORE!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420


And if you are right then they are still controlling you and you don't even see it ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


They "control" me alright.

I will certainly give you that, because you have no idea what goes on in my life.

But I can assure you that my skin has not been touched by them - unless for loving treatment - one single inch!

They dont touch me!

But if they could - and THAT HISTORY makes them not able to touch me - THEY WOULD.

Since they can't. They have used long-reaching methods. Yes, they did.

Because it is their FILTHY NATURE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420


"you have no idea what goes on in my life" is an indication that you still prefer to blame an exterior source.

Also, they don't touch you physically. They dont need to. This "evil" you speak of is an entirely mental game. They have your emotions and you are enslaved by them and when you do Enough self reflection you will see that you have chosen to be this way. Unfortunately, these words I speak to you now will have little affect and I can only hope they linger until you find this for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


I lie.

Their police did hit my on the face one day.

Then they took measures to correct the problem.

But it showed how their system is in place.

But defend them. You said that they do all of this out of compassionate spiritual care.

And I totally completely disagree.

It is fascism. Feudal system.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
You should be thanking the media. People call them the illuminati and while most people here would think it an evil thing, I think they are just men and women who see things in a better light and know that others will follow and listen to them because of this. They are helPing us see this existence as a unified existence, all in it together, not as a separate individual thing. Don't you think maybe, not only because they are successful and capable of creating stories and entertainment that people enjoy, that they are more aware of the world in which we live? Possibly more evolved mentally? And we, subconsciously recognize it and latch onto it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


Great answer. When I read these conspiracy theories about the Illuminati, I think, "Well, if it's true, then I agree with a lot of their ideals". Still, the culture is in the toilet, and I'll take the Christian renaissance any day over Lady Gaga.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I pretty much agree with you. I don't watch TV, but if I do they somehow manage to get gay topics in on a routine basis. I live in a left-wing college town, and I NEVER see gay men (at least, that I know of). We only make up 2-3% of the population, yet it's all over the media. I don't like manufactured realities like that (including straight male "acceptance").
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


You ain't gay. YOu are a troll!

A gay man always knows that there are ALWAYS other gay men around.
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You win! Dumbest response here!
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
You can't ask people not to THINK a certain way about others. But everyone is required not to ACT on how they feel.
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I'm not asking that. I'm asking whether this recent transition in the attitude of straight men towards gay men is authentic or a put on. You may despise blacks, but not act on that. Does that comfort the black man? My concern is gay men are simply taking straight men to literally, and not seeing that they are tolerating us, but not accepting homosexual expression as a legitimate form of love. I do think I'm onto something here.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


dude there is no transition. you think there is but it has opposite result.

when something is forced on someone (in this case toleration of gays), he/she might decide ok i will act accordingly, but his/her subconscious will rebel against such order. this how "they" will put the seed of persistence into hets brain.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Op. what are you complaining about? You're just as equal as the rest, you're the only one holding onto something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


What. The historical record? Why can't you just answer the question, please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


I know you're not seeing the point but hopefully I'm helping somebody else out there reading this. Point: why does there NEED to be a question?
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Our schools teach it as okay and have for quite a while now. It is really stressed in college.

What does it matter how it came to be, or if it is fake?

Live, be happy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26521859


I care if it's authentic or fake, as all authentic people would. Fake people don't care about whether a person is sincere or not...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


The point this guy is trying to make, op, which you will not understand, is this: sure, people might be fake, people might be sincere, sometimes you'll know which one people are being, and sometimes you won't. Bottom line: your wasting your energy and emotion on something when you could simply just be enjoying your life right now instead of worrying what people are thinking.
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That's very true, but I still think it's a legitimate question.
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And if you are right then they are still controlling you and you don't even see it ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


They "control" me alright.

I will certainly give you that, because you have no idea what goes on in my life.

But I can assure you that my skin has not been touched by them - unless for loving treatment - one single inch!

They dont touch me!

But if they could - and THAT HISTORY makes them not able to touch me - THEY WOULD.

Since they can't. They have used long-reaching methods. Yes, they did.

Because it is their FILTHY NATURE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420


"you have no idea what goes on in my life" is an indication that you still prefer to blame an exterior source.

Also, they don't touch you physically. They dont need to. This "evil" you speak of is an entirely mental game. They have your emotions and you are enslaved by them and when you do Enough self reflection you will see that you have chosen to be this way. Unfortunately, these words I speak to you now will have little affect and I can only hope they linger until you find this for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


I lie.

Their police did hit my on the face one day.

Then they took measures to correct the problem.

But it showed how their system is in place.

But defend them. You said that they do all of this out of compassionate spiritual care.

And I totally completely disagree.

It is fascism. Feudal system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420


There is no doubt that there are people out there who have masetered their emotions and found the power to master weaker minded folks' emotions as well (and I strongly recommend you start reading into this stuff) but I also believe that there are those who are using their powers for the good. You are only seeing bad because you chose to.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Op. what are you complaining about? You're just as equal as the rest, you're the only one holding onto something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


What. The historical record? Why can't you just answer the question, please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


I know you're not seeing the point but hopefully I'm helping somebody else out there reading this. Point: why does there NEED to be a question?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


Because it's there, and I have to deal with this every day of my life. I'd like to know if people are being authentic with me or not. In the end, I'll never know, since it's now politically incorrect to be honest about this stuff. I just wanted to get some input, but please don't try to pretend this isn't a legitimate question. It is.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Our schools teach it as okay and have for quite a while now. It is really stressed in college.

What does it matter how it came to be, or if it is fake?

Live, be happy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26521859


I care if it's authentic or fake, as all authentic people would. Fake people don't care about whether a person is sincere or not...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


The point this guy is trying to make, op, which you will not understand, is this: sure, people might be fake, people might be sincere, sometimes you'll know which one people are being, and sometimes you won't. Bottom line: your wasting your energy and emotion on something when you could simply just be enjoying your life right now instead of worrying what people are thinking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


That's very true, but I still think it's a legitimate question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


I know you do and you will continue to until you recognize that this question is based on an emotional attachment that limits you from experiencing life to its fullest potential.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Op. what are you complaining about? You're just as equal as the rest, you're the only one holding onto something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


What. The historical record? Why can't you just answer the question, please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


I know you're not seeing the point but hopefully I'm helping somebody else out there reading this. Point: why does there NEED to be a question?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


Because it's there, and I have to deal with this every day of my life. I'd like to know if people are being authentic with me or not. In the end, I'll never know, since it's now politically incorrect to be honest about this stuff. I just wanted to get some input, but please don't try to pretend this isn't a legitimate question. It is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


You said: "in the end, I'll never know". Do you see that there is a part of you that already knows how futile all of this really is? This isnt a legitmate question for me. This isn't a legitimate questions for lots of people. For YOU it is. Don't you see how much you live and rely on your own perception of things, creating a "victim" persona for yourself. You could empower yourself and be above this thought but instead you choose to see yourself from what you think others (straight) people see you as.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I dunno...based on the forums I frequent...straight men are NOT accepting of gay men at all.

don't know what region or location your talking about.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Your choice of an unhealthy lifestyle costs your friends and neighbors billions of dollars a year. All these perverts should pay own way and not be a burden on society.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
There is no doubt that there are people out there who have masetered their emotions and found the power to master weaker minded folks' emotions as well (and I strongly recommend you start reading into this stuff) but I also believe that there are those who are using their powers for the good. You are only seeing bad because you chose to.
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"You shall know them by their fruits."
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Your choice of an unhealthy lifestyle costs your friends and neighbors billions of dollars a year. All these perverts should pay own way and not be a burden on society.
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Now there's some honesty :P
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I pretty much agree with you. I don't watch TV, but if I do they somehow manage to get gay topics in on a routine basis. I live in a left-wing college town, and I NEVER see gay men (at least, that I know of). We only make up 2-3% of the population, yet it's all over the media. I don't like manufactured realities like that (including straight male "acceptance").
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


You ain't gay. YOu are a troll!

A gay man always knows that there are ALWAYS other gay men around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420


You win! Dumbest response here!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


That is why you are an "illuminati" fan!
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Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


BINGO!

That, and the soy consumption, haha...
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I think you might be misinterpreting straight guys.. you think they don't like you because you're gay. I just skimmed through 6 pages of this drivel & I don't like you because I think you're a bit of an idiot..

I'm pretty sure a few of those times you got beat up as a teen wasn't because you're "gay".

You can keep telling yourself that's why people "tolerate" you. What ever it takes to maintain that 'adorable' sense of entitlement, I suppose.. Just sayin.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Hey OP

Firstly please, whatever you do, don't come to some kind of decision about humanity (or the straight male portion of it) based upon what you dredged up here on GLP.

Jezuz, if I had to assume that all American's were like the American's here I'd freakin hate America. You know what I'm saying?

But to take a shot at answering your question:
I am a straight male. I was pretty mercilessly hit on by gay men when I was a boy. I disliked the unwelcome attention intensely but didn't know what to do with it or how to cope. As a result of this I became quite the homophobe. Back then I would spout some really hateful stuff about "faggots" with the least prompting. Because, you see, I made the basic error of assuming that all gay men were just like the small subset that hit on me and tried to - I don't know, turn me? - when they could see that this made me uncomfortable.

I have since grown up a bit. With maturity comes the ability to hold some complexity in my mind. Some gay men are abusive bastards. True. But so what? Some straight men are too. And since being willing to open my mind a little I have met some gay men that are all kinds of other thing too: fun, smart, kind... all kinds of good attributes. And since I am not a child anymore if I get hit on by a man, it doesn't confuse the hell out of me, I just decline the invitation. So no problem.

You see, OP, just as gay men are not all "one thing", neither are straight men. Many are still hurt and confused about their own stuff and so respond with hate and anger. They lash out at you because they have pain and confusion within themselves. These same guys are pretty aweful to women too. It all comes from their own inner pain and fear.

But not all are like that. Some have grown up. Some straight men will take you as you are for a human being. Irrespective of your sexuality.

Final point, OP. If you go looking for evidence of anything at all, you will find it. If you want evidence that straight men are inherently hateful towards gay men... good luck, you'll find it. So be careful with your postulates, hmm?
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
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I think you have to account for the passage of time, OP. I'm a straight man and 45 (nearly the same age as you). When I was 16, I didn't understand homosexuality the way I do today. At 16, I was one of those straight guys who thought it was weird, etc. At 45, I've grown as a person and a human being, and accept it, and have taught my children to accept it, as well.

So not only have my views changed over time, but my children (the oldest of whom is 22) are also more accepting of it now than I was at their age.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks

So you`re being accepted now, you`re not getting beat up anymore, people don't treat you like a leper anymore and you`re........BITCHING ABOUT IT?! It`s called social engineering.First you arrange various tv shows and newscasts to reflect on the victimization of gays,you are told of innocent gays ruthlessly attacked by thugs,leaving in there wake heartbroken parents who sob and proclaim there boy never hurt anyone,and didn't deserve this.Then you pass a hate crime law that quadruples the penalty for assaulting someone based on sexual preference,and then you start parading them in public everywhere giving the illusion that theres many more than there actually is. So here we go, now the guy who would have knocked your ass out 5 years ago,feels social pressure to be more accepting of your lifestyle and to back that up he`s looking at a 10 year stint in the joint if he lays a finger on you.It`s something the authorities have been doing for decades.While blacks run the streets attacking white people left and right, the govt campaign of political correctness has pretty much castrated the white man.Any action he takes other than capitulation results in prison or societal rejection and admonishment.people are so easily manipulated,it`s kinda scary.To answer your question though,yeah it`s not a real acceptance of you by us straight guys because even though the penalties he faces for not treating you civilly will keep him in check, the actual act of male homosexuality is (sorry but true) fucking repulsive to most straight men,and if you want to test those waters just start making out with a dude in public.I wouldn`t advise it.

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