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andawg221 User ID: 27514061 United States 11/11/2012 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why must gay men run around with their hands in the air proclaiming to be gay? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26872344 We get it! Go and be gay... you don't need our approval That is a general consensus! I'm straight and can not remember ever telling someone I am heterosexual. I'm not aggressive toward gays, but if one got fresh I would start swinging. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27461680 United States 11/11/2012 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, its kind of frowned upon to give you folks a hard time nowadays. So we really just keep it behind closed doors, kind of like we do with women and minorities. You won't get it to your face, but I assure you, the second you leave the room its a fucking free for all. You know how I know I can trust a man? I say "Fa--ot", "C--t" and "N---r" in front of him. If he doesn't flinch at any of those, we're on the same team. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27513134 Brazil 11/11/2012 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | to be gay is not a option, it is demonic possession. the satanic forces who controls this planet is making it ok to be gay, using msm to indoctrinate people and pervert humankind. Its part of the great plan to bring about the antichrist, he himself father of homosexuality, and homosexuals. Only those who saw the light really understands what is happening. When two people of the same sex have an intercourse, always there are demons in the scene, watching and delighting, satanic energies floating all around, kind of a summoning of spirits, or a portal. Thats why this practice is forbiden by all religions on earth, including spiritism, and this is why god condems the one who practice it and even the one who agrees with it, the only sin you are condemned even if you dont practice, only agree. (romans 1:24-29) Ever wondered why all satanic rituals always have homosexuals relationships? You, homosexual, remember: its not you, this kind of desire doesnt comes from you, its a invader of your mind, and you can repel it.. be strong, fight against it.. demad him to leave in name of Jesus Christ. No one is ever born homosexual. World is full of ex gays, but you never see in msm.. guess why? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19490298 United States 11/11/2012 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe the younger generation have changed their attitudes. Honestly, I don't see acceptance overall. Closing in on 50 here. Had a lonely childhood living in the sticks. Went into the military, discovered the gym and my life improved beyond measure. When your well built, people just won't believe your gay. It would take months for people to figure out I was gay, but by then, I was made the exception. "You don't act like those others". Right, bullshit. Your just afraid of me or you really to do like me as a person. GLP is not a good measure of acceptance. We have the rednecks and their offspring still making disparaging remarks. But oh well, God is fair. I don't live in a trailer park and have done well in life. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27517802 United States 11/11/2012 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think most people are bisexual physically, and the ones that can't come to term with this end up developing a rage to compensate for their loss in metal stability. Not saying every dude wants to ram man ass and every girl wants to scissor their Wednesdays away, but on some kind of level, every human as shades of bi. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26764444 Taught HS for decades. The above is true. The changing culture has made homosexuality very accepted by the youth. Most humans are bi-sexual in nature but lean by degrees more toward hetero. However, at that age, many are just not sure of their sexuality--hense a lot of confused kids. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22070412 United States 11/11/2012 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | to be gay is not a option, it is demonic possession. the satanic forces who controls this planet is making it ok to be gay, using msm to indoctrinate people and pervert humankind. Its part of the great plan to bring about the antichrist, he himself father of homosexuality, and homosexuals. Only those who saw the light really understands what is happening. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27513134 When two people of the same sex have an intercourse, always there are demons in the scene, watching and delighting, satanic energies floating all around, kind of a summoning of spirits, or a portal. Thats why this practice is forbiden by all religions on earth, including spiritism, and this is why god condems the one who practice it and even the one who agrees with it, the only sin you are condemned even if you dont practice, only agree. (romans 1:24-29) Ever wondered why all satanic rituals always have homosexuals relationships? You, homosexual, remember: its not you, this kind of desire doesnt comes from you, its a invader of your mind, and you can repel it.. be strong, fight against it.. demad him to leave in name of Jesus Christ. No one is ever born homosexual. World is full of ex gays, but you never see in msm.. guess why? this might be true, but it seems likely that we are all subject to demonic influence in one form or another, and no one is blameless... seeking a relationship with God and loving our fellow human beings is the most important law, according to Jesus Christ... we cannot hope to be perfect in this life, only made perfect by humility before God and the Lord's prayer... many hetero men are subject to the same base "lustfulness" that you are referring to as demonic... the more I pray and read the Bible the less I tend to objectify women and feel these types of feelings... it is true that homosexuality is pervasive in the occult and according to Kay Griggs, it is one of the fundamental means of control over the intelligence agents who are behind the scenes of world events, moving from one side to the other... sex itself has been overly played up and made perverse... it seems like a truly loving relationship between men can exist without sex, as it can between a man and a woman... but God's design does seem to allow for a certain amount of demonic influence as a catalyst to free will acceptance of Him and to perpetuate His creations... homosexuality may fall in the former category... the consciousness of people in the Old Testament seems quite different to AD times, hence the reason it is specifically forbidden in the OT and not the NEw testament... that said, Christ only speaks of marriage and divorce between men and women... likely since homosexuals are not traditionally a culture seeking to raise children... free will is not so simple in its expression and God's creation can take many forms... so long as wanton hedonism is not the result, I do not see the issue of homosexuality as anyones business and if they want to marry, it seems like a step in the right direction, provided they live up to the higher values marriage vows imply... every truly loving relationship is not based on sex. :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22104307 United States 11/11/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think most people are bisexual physically, and the ones that can't come to term with this end up developing a rage to compensate for their loss in metal stability. Not saying every dude wants to ram man ass and every girl wants to scissor their Wednesdays away, but on some kind of level, every human as shades of bi. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26764444 Taught HS for decades. The above is true. The changing culture has made homosexuality very accepted by the youth. Most humans are bi-sexual in nature but lean by degrees more toward hetero. However, at that age, many are just not sure of their sexuality--hense a lot of confused kids. This is such bullshit. Most people are not a "little bi" - but bisexual people want to believe this for some reason. Sorry for contradicting your "expertise" in that you read out of a textbook to high school kids for a few decades - it isn't like the people writing those books have any sort of agenda. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2935487 United States 11/11/2012 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why must gay men run around with their hands in the air proclaiming to be gay? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26872344 We get it! Go and be gay... you don't need our approval That's not what this thread is about. I'm asking a specific question. I'm tired of straight men acting cool, when it grosses them out. Be honest! Don't play cool just so it makes your girlfriend happy. That is precisely what this thread is about. Get on with your life and stop seeking acceptance. No. I'm not trying to seek acceptance at all. I'm saying that straight men's tolerance of gay men is manufactured and phony. I don't give a damn about societal acceptance. OTHER GAY MEN AND WOMEN in my opinion are way too enamored of the recent change in consensus, and think they are accepted when they are not, and probably never will. Read the original thread. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2935487 United States 11/11/2012 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why must gay men run around with their hands in the air proclaiming to be gay? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26872344 We get it! Go and be gay... you don't need our approval That's not what this thread is about. I'm asking a specific question. I'm tired of straight men acting cool, when it grosses them out. Be honest! Don't play cool just so it makes your girlfriend happy. That is precisely what this thread is about. Get on with your life and stop seeking acceptance. No. I'm not trying to seek acceptance at all. I'm saying that straight men's tolerance of gay men is manufactured and phony. I don't give a damn about societal acceptance. OTHER GAY MEN AND WOMEN in my opinion are way too enamored of the recent change in consensus, and think they are accepted when they are not, and probably never will. Read the original thread. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2935487 United States 11/11/2012 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a bit more complex. Most violence and hate is not from straight guys, its from self hating gay and bis. I've know all sorts of "mannly" straight guys, bikers, rednecks, almost never a problem. Fem religious wackos, those are the big problem, especially when they manage to lead people. Quoting: Fred 26677941 You think the long history of mistreatment and cruelty towards homosexuals is entirely due to self-hating homosexuals? That's really a stretch. I agree with you that on an individual basis the guys that are really angry about it do probably have some issues of having gay feelings, but that doesn't explain the shocking degree of sadism over so many centuries. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7061022 United States 11/11/2012 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it is generational also. White guys and black guys used to not hang out either. But now you see blacks guys and white guys hanging out, usually a common bond is sports. I have a question though. How do u suppress arousal when showering with other males in sports or military. Isn't it like a straight guy showering with girls. Do u believe in separate shower facilities. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2935487 United States 11/11/2012 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN. Quoting: riffraffrocks Homosexuals have treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them. Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them. You can't make everyone like you man. Some people will always be averse to homosexuality. As long as they aren't using violence against you I would just go on with life and not care about what other people are really thinking. Tolerance does not equal acceptance, nor should it. Tolerance doesn't equal acceptance. Fine! That's honest. It also means that gay men should stop acting like straight men are there buds, because that will never be the case. You can train a lion to tolerate a lamb in its cage, but it doesn't change the fact that it's a lion. Frankly, straight men have demonstrated themselves to be too cruel over the ages to be reformed. Gay men better remember that... You actually seem at least as intolerant and biased against straight men as you believe them to be against you. Talking about Gay/Straight when people are just people, with different orientations. You need to wake up and smell the 21st century buddy. Attitudes like yours are NOT acceptable. Hate is NEVER acceptable. One day, you are going to have to accept those who are different from you, and just deal with it. Straight men who don't hate gay men are HERE, we are PROUD, and we are NOT GOING TO HIDE IT ANYMORE! WHERE WERE YOU THE PAST TWO THOUSAND YEARS??? If we were having this conversation 30 years ago I guarantee you wouldn't be acting all self-righteously proud of how you like gays. You would have joined the jamboree, and said how homosexuality is abnormal, an aberration, yadda yadda yadda. How do I know this? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE SAID BACK THEN. JUST LIKE THEY SAID IT FOR COUNTLESS CENTURIES BEFORE. I'm sure there were straights that would have had the guts to speak up for us, but they were a tiny minority, and didn't dare anyway because the mob would have eaten them alive. You can act all enlightened if you like, but the fact is that no one stood up for us since time immemorial until just the past 15-20 years. My guess is with you is that you are cool to gays because it's fashionable, just as 30 years ago you would have been a dick to gays because THAT was fashionable. That's the key...you follow THE FASHION, not due to any moral courage on your part. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2935487 United States 11/11/2012 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't ask people not to THINK a certain way about others. But everyone is required not to ACT on how they feel. Quoting: Thor's Hamster I'm not asking that. I'm asking whether this recent transition in the attitude of straight men towards gay men is authentic or a put on. You may despise blacks, but not act on that. Does that comfort the black man? My concern is gay men are simply taking straight men to literally, and not seeing that they are tolerating us, but not accepting homosexual expression as a legitimate form of love. I do think I'm onto something here. It's the same as with the Great Depression. The generation that grew up with the Great Depression remembers. Skip a generation and people forget which means_____________________________ Sorry, I don't get what your'e saying. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2935487 United States 11/11/2012 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're at a point in society where people are starting to come out of the haze of morality that has encumbered humanity in our recent history. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2295286 So I mean, by virtue of existing right now we make heterosexual people uncomfortable because "Am I gay" is a question nobody really wants to ask themselves even today because of societal reasons. In my personal belief though I think hetero and gay men are completely inverted sexually and are unable to understand each-other, I think the best we could hope for in the future is perhaps understanding, until then It's best to keep it real simple with the straight people. Best answer yet, and from an actual homo. Thanks! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22818197 Puerto Rico 11/11/2012 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN. Quoting: riffraffrocks Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them. Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them. Shitty assholes are beaten by cunts 1,000 times to 1 .. But on Dick sucking wemen cant beat gay meat ... so its told by the experts on the field ... My opinion ? Burn in hell ! I am sure no baby will come outa your hole ! That is a womans turf ... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2935487 United States 11/11/2012 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're at a point in society where people are starting to come out of the haze of morality that has encumbered humanity in our recent history. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2295286 So I mean, by virtue of existing right now we make heterosexual people uncomfortable because "Am I gay" is a question nobody really wants to ask themselves even today because of societal reasons. In my personal belief though I think hetero and gay men are completely inverted sexually and are unable to understand each-other, I think the best we could hope for in the future is perhaps understanding, until then It's best to keep it real simple with the straight people. Yes that haze of morality that resulted in everything you see around you. Let me think back to the days when we had no morality... about 1000 years ago... Vikings slaughtering villages full of people, Scottish clans constantly murdering each other, barabrians roaming Europe... Be careful what you wish for fucko. That haze of morality is the only thing keeping people from beating your head in with a baseball bat for being a degenerate queer. You better pray that it never gets to the point that the rest of us are just as amoral as you. About 1000 years ago....isn't that when Christianity was the undisputed ruler of Western Civilization? Somehow the teachings of Jesus evolved into a culture of constant war. Nice indictment of your own morality, idiot. You're comment on wanting to beat my head in with a baseball bat because I"m gay simply proves the point of my thread. Thanks for that. Lions will be lions. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7061022 United States 11/11/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it is generational also. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7061022 White guys and black guys used to not hang out either. But now you see blacks guys and white guys hanging out, usually a common bond is sports. I have a question though. How do u suppress arousal when showering with other males in sports or military. Isn't it like a straight guy showering with girls. Do u believe in separate shower facilities. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2935487 United States 11/11/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're at a point in society where people are starting to come out of the haze of morality that has encumbered humanity in our recent history. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2295286 So I mean, by virtue of existing right now we make heterosexual people uncomfortable because "Am I gay" is a question nobody really wants to ask themselves even today because of societal reasons. In my personal belief though I think hetero and gay men are completely inverted sexually and are unable to understand each-other, I think the best we could hope for in the future is perhaps understanding, until then It's best to keep it real simple with the straight people. "Haze of morality"? Don't ever come near my family. I have pigs and you will disappear, you commie rat fucking bastard. I think he means Christian sexual mores specifically, not morals in general. By the way, why is it every person that disagrees with homosexuality here have to resort to threats of physical violence. Well, one thing is for sure. We know you're a STRAIGHT MALE. |
Deb1964 User ID: 27527326 United States 11/11/2012 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked this question in another thread, but no one answered it. Quoting: Deb1964 Could you answer a question for me then? I have never understood so many people being gay. I know that there are people who are born with both male and female parts, so they have to choose which they wish to be. But this is not the typical gay people of today. The question I have is....If a guy considers himself gay, why would he go for another guy who walks, talks and act more of a female than I am....And if a female who is gay considers herself to be a lesbian goes for a female who walks, talks and act more of a man than most men I know. And these men I know are 100% straight. Oh, and by the way I am 100% straight too. Why can't anyone answer my question? Deb |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2935487 United States 11/11/2012 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a 53 year old gay male and i do kind of see what the OP is eluding to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21007095 There are gay characters in our UK soaps and everyone accepts them as they are, even the characters that you would think would be naturally homophobic in real life, and it does'nt really ring true to be honest. On the other hand, this helps to make being gay more acceptable, so the pragmatist in me does'nt mind this. I only began coming out to people a couple of years ago and i was pleasantly surprised that not one person, including those i was worried about, were hostile towards me. That certainly would'nt have been the case when i was in my twenties. Yeah, it's all conditioning. I just think gay men and women should remember history, and that there is no guarantee that this goodwill might continue. It MIGHT continue, but it's too early to say. Just be vigilant, that's all. As some of these vicious responses to my thread show, cruel sadists are still out there in numbers.... |
Chef. User ID: 24726058 United States 11/11/2012 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN. Quoting: riffraffrocks Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them. Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them. Get a life you truly have nothing better to do with your life then to try and stir up crap. Sad! Out of the pan into the Fire. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2935487 United States 11/11/2012 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | basically OP, we just keep quiet now. no point getting your arse arrested and thrown in with Bubba, is there? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26860799 no, we keep quiet, but we still hold the same prejudices, nicely mixed in with simmering resentment that the AVERAGE Joe is being shit all over by minorities such as yourself. if doom happens, not GOOD at all for those surviving minorities, because that is when the gloves come off. imho so yes, you're right that it's bullshit! Thanks for being honest. Folks, we have an honest sociopath here! By the way, how exactly am I shitting all over you by being gay? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14139755 United States 11/11/2012 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN. Quoting: riffraffrocks Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them. Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them. That's because 99% of straight men under the age of 40 have had homosexual experiences |