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Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?

 
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I pretty much agree with you. I don't watch TV, but if I do they somehow manage to get gay topics in on a routine basis. I live in a left-wing college town, and I NEVER see gay men (at least, that I know of). We only make up 2-3% of the population, yet it's all over the media. I don't like manufactured realities like that (including straight male "acceptance").
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


You ain't gay. YOu are a troll!

A gay man always knows that there are ALWAYS other gay men around.
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You win! Dumbest response here!
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
You can't ask people not to THINK a certain way about others. But everyone is required not to ACT on how they feel.
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I'm not asking that. I'm asking whether this recent transition in the attitude of straight men towards gay men is authentic or a put on. You may despise blacks, but not act on that. Does that comfort the black man? My concern is gay men are simply taking straight men to literally, and not seeing that they are tolerating us, but not accepting homosexual expression as a legitimate form of love. I do think I'm onto something here.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


dude there is no transition. you think there is but it has opposite result.

when something is forced on someone (in this case toleration of gays), he/she might decide ok i will act accordingly, but his/her subconscious will rebel against such order. this how "they" will put the seed of persistence into hets brain.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Op. what are you complaining about? You're just as equal as the rest, you're the only one holding onto something.
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What. The historical record? Why can't you just answer the question, please.
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I know you're not seeing the point but hopefully I'm helping somebody else out there reading this. Point: why does there NEED to be a question?
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Our schools teach it as okay and have for quite a while now. It is really stressed in college.

What does it matter how it came to be, or if it is fake?

Live, be happy.
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I care if it's authentic or fake, as all authentic people would. Fake people don't care about whether a person is sincere or not...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


The point this guy is trying to make, op, which you will not understand, is this: sure, people might be fake, people might be sincere, sometimes you'll know which one people are being, and sometimes you won't. Bottom line: your wasting your energy and emotion on something when you could simply just be enjoying your life right now instead of worrying what people are thinking.
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That's very true, but I still think it's a legitimate question.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
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And if you are right then they are still controlling you and you don't even see it ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


They "control" me alright.

I will certainly give you that, because you have no idea what goes on in my life.

But I can assure you that my skin has not been touched by them - unless for loving treatment - one single inch!

They dont touch me!

But if they could - and THAT HISTORY makes them not able to touch me - THEY WOULD.

Since they can't. They have used long-reaching methods. Yes, they did.

Because it is their FILTHY NATURE.
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"you have no idea what goes on in my life" is an indication that you still prefer to blame an exterior source.

Also, they don't touch you physically. They dont need to. This "evil" you speak of is an entirely mental game. They have your emotions and you are enslaved by them and when you do Enough self reflection you will see that you have chosen to be this way. Unfortunately, these words I speak to you now will have little affect and I can only hope they linger until you find this for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


I lie.

Their police did hit my on the face one day.

Then they took measures to correct the problem.

But it showed how their system is in place.

But defend them. You said that they do all of this out of compassionate spiritual care.

And I totally completely disagree.

It is fascism. Feudal system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420


There is no doubt that there are people out there who have masetered their emotions and found the power to master weaker minded folks' emotions as well (and I strongly recommend you start reading into this stuff) but I also believe that there are those who are using their powers for the good. You are only seeing bad because you chose to.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Op. what are you complaining about? You're just as equal as the rest, you're the only one holding onto something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


What. The historical record? Why can't you just answer the question, please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


I know you're not seeing the point but hopefully I'm helping somebody else out there reading this. Point: why does there NEED to be a question?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


Because it's there, and I have to deal with this every day of my life. I'd like to know if people are being authentic with me or not. In the end, I'll never know, since it's now politically incorrect to be honest about this stuff. I just wanted to get some input, but please don't try to pretend this isn't a legitimate question. It is.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Our schools teach it as okay and have for quite a while now. It is really stressed in college.

What does it matter how it came to be, or if it is fake?

Live, be happy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26521859


I care if it's authentic or fake, as all authentic people would. Fake people don't care about whether a person is sincere or not...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


The point this guy is trying to make, op, which you will not understand, is this: sure, people might be fake, people might be sincere, sometimes you'll know which one people are being, and sometimes you won't. Bottom line: your wasting your energy and emotion on something when you could simply just be enjoying your life right now instead of worrying what people are thinking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


That's very true, but I still think it's a legitimate question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


I know you do and you will continue to until you recognize that this question is based on an emotional attachment that limits you from experiencing life to its fullest potential.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Op. what are you complaining about? You're just as equal as the rest, you're the only one holding onto something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


What. The historical record? Why can't you just answer the question, please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


I know you're not seeing the point but hopefully I'm helping somebody else out there reading this. Point: why does there NEED to be a question?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19753865


Because it's there, and I have to deal with this every day of my life. I'd like to know if people are being authentic with me or not. In the end, I'll never know, since it's now politically incorrect to be honest about this stuff. I just wanted to get some input, but please don't try to pretend this isn't a legitimate question. It is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


You said: "in the end, I'll never know". Do you see that there is a part of you that already knows how futile all of this really is? This isnt a legitmate question for me. This isn't a legitimate questions for lots of people. For YOU it is. Don't you see how much you live and rely on your own perception of things, creating a "victim" persona for yourself. You could empower yourself and be above this thought but instead you choose to see yourself from what you think others (straight) people see you as.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I dunno...based on the forums I frequent...straight men are NOT accepting of gay men at all.

don't know what region or location your talking about.
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11/11/2012 02:48 PM
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Your choice of an unhealthy lifestyle costs your friends and neighbors billions of dollars a year. All these perverts should pay own way and not be a burden on society.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
There is no doubt that there are people out there who have masetered their emotions and found the power to master weaker minded folks' emotions as well (and I strongly recommend you start reading into this stuff) but I also believe that there are those who are using their powers for the good. You are only seeing bad because you chose to.
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"You shall know them by their fruits."
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Your choice of an unhealthy lifestyle costs your friends and neighbors billions of dollars a year. All these perverts should pay own way and not be a burden on society.
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Now there's some honesty :P
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I pretty much agree with you. I don't watch TV, but if I do they somehow manage to get gay topics in on a routine basis. I live in a left-wing college town, and I NEVER see gay men (at least, that I know of). We only make up 2-3% of the population, yet it's all over the media. I don't like manufactured realities like that (including straight male "acceptance").
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2935487


You ain't gay. YOu are a troll!

A gay man always knows that there are ALWAYS other gay men around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420


You win! Dumbest response here!
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That is why you are an "illuminati" fan!
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


BINGO!

That, and the soy consumption, haha...
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I think you might be misinterpreting straight guys.. you think they don't like you because you're gay. I just skimmed through 6 pages of this drivel & I don't like you because I think you're a bit of an idiot..

I'm pretty sure a few of those times you got beat up as a teen wasn't because you're "gay".

You can keep telling yourself that's why people "tolerate" you. What ever it takes to maintain that 'adorable' sense of entitlement, I suppose.. Just sayin.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks



I think you have to account for the passage of time, OP. I'm a straight man and 45 (nearly the same age as you). When I was 16, I didn't understand homosexuality the way I do today. At 16, I was one of those straight guys who thought it was weird, etc. At 45, I've grown as a person and a human being, and accept it, and have taught my children to accept it, as well.

So not only have my views changed over time, but my children (the oldest of whom is 22) are also more accepting of it now than I was at their age.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks

So you`re being accepted now, you`re not getting beat up anymore, people don't treat you like a leper anymore and you`re........BITCHING ABOUT IT?! It`s called social engineering.First you arrange various tv shows and newscasts to reflect on the victimization of gays,you are told of innocent gays ruthlessly attacked by thugs,leaving in there wake heartbroken parents who sob and proclaim there boy never hurt anyone,and didn't deserve this.Then you pass a hate crime law that quadruples the penalty for assaulting someone based on sexual preference,and then you start parading them in public everywhere giving the illusion that theres many more than there actually is. So here we go, now the guy who would have knocked your ass out 5 years ago,feels social pressure to be more accepting of your lifestyle and to back that up he`s looking at a 10 year stint in the joint if he lays a finger on you.It`s something the authorities have been doing for decades.While blacks run the streets attacking white people left and right, the govt campaign of political correctness has pretty much castrated the white man.Any action he takes other than capitulation results in prison or societal rejection and admonishment.people are so easily manipulated,it`s kinda scary.To answer your question though,yeah it`s not a real acceptance of you by us straight guys because even though the penalties he faces for not treating you civilly will keep him in check, the actual act of male homosexuality is (sorry but true) fucking repulsive to most straight men,and if you want to test those waters just start making out with a dude in public.I wouldn`t advise it.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Damn, it must be weird to have the media working for your condition.
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So you`re being accepted now, you`re not getting beat up anymore, people don't treat you like a leper anymore and you`re........BITCHING ABOUT IT?! It`s called social engineering.First you arrange various tv shows and newscasts to reflect on the victimization of gays,you are told of innocent gays ruthlessly attacked by thugs,leaving in there wake heartbroken parents who sob and proclaim there boy never hurt anyone,and didn't deserve this.Then you pass a hate crime law that quadruples the penalty for assaulting someone based on sexual preference,and then you start parading them in public everywhere giving the illusion that theres many more than there actually is. So here we go, now the guy who would have knocked your ass out 5 years ago,feels social pressure to be more accepting of your lifestyle and to back that up he`s looking at a 10 year stint in the joint if he lays a finger on you.It`s something the authorities have been doing for decades.While blacks run the streets attacking white people left and right, the govt campaign of political correctness has pretty much castrated the white man.Any action he takes other than capitulation results in prison or societal rejection and admonishment.people are so easily manipulated,it`s kinda scary.To answer your question though,yeah it`s not a real acceptance of you by us straight guys because even though the penalties he faces for not treating you civilly will keep him in check, the actual act of male homosexuality is (sorry but true) fucking repulsive to most straight men,and if you want to test those waters just start making out with a dude in public.I wouldn`t advise it.
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I'm impressed by your "objectivity"!
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
We're at a point in society where people are starting to come out of the haze of morality that has encumbered humanity in our recent history.

So I mean, by virtue of existing right now we make heterosexual people uncomfortable because "Am I gay" is a question nobody really wants to ask themselves even today because of societal reasons.

In my personal belief though I think hetero and gay men are completely inverted sexually and are unable to understand each-other, I think the best we could hope for in the future is perhaps understanding, until then It's best to keep it real simple with the straight people.
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Best answer yet, and from an actual homo. Thanks!
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OK. So I'm 40 years old, and I came out when I was 16, which means I came out when being openly gay was socially marginalizing, if not downright dangerous to your physical person. This threat came almost exclusively from straight men, and it was the social norm. Since then, this new attitude towards homosexuals has arisen in many quarters, and I must say it has made life easier for me in many key respects. However, in spite of this, I can't say I entirely buy this overnight epiphany that straight men have allegedly had regarding gays, especially gay MEN.

Homosexuals have been treated like social lepers, if not as downright evil incarnate for the past 2000 years. Don't you think it's odd that straight men SUDDENLY got over it? I'm personally pretty skeptical, and don't think this is a change in behavior due to moral conviction, but rather to the fact that it's been made fashionable by the mass media to be cool to gays. Also, straight women have never cared the way straight men do, and since they have so much clout today I think straight men have just caved in to being cool, so their girlfriends don't get mad at them.

Am I the only gay guy that thinks this? It feels phony to me. I just don't believe them.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


When you are trying to create a *GODLESS COUNTRY* one of the ways is to get people to marganalize issues like Sexual morality which encompasses homosexuality, abortion, condoms for underage teens, transgenderism, etc...


It is not that their has not been homosexuals like yourself in the world for eons, what is different today, is spotlighting it as a Social Norm, that is in line with heterosexuality, if you can accomplish that with society you can make them accept it, therefore rejecting the ideas of Biblical Morality, living and values, thus creating a GODLESS SOCIETY...

Yes their has always been an AGENDA behind today's Homosexual Movement

Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
I think you might be misinterpreting straight guys.. you think they don't like you because you're gay. I just skimmed through 6 pages of this drivel & I don't like you because I think you're a bit of an idiot..

I'm pretty sure a few of those times you got beat up as a teen wasn't because you're "gay".

You can keep telling yourself that's why people "tolerate" you. What ever it takes to maintain that 'adorable' sense of entitlement, I suppose.. Just sayin.
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I was never beat up as a teen, so apparently you're not reading too closely. You're not answering the thread either so fuck off.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
So you`re being accepted now, you`re not getting beat up anymore, people don't treat you like a leper anymore and you`re........BITCHING ABOUT IT?! It`s called social engineering.First you arrange various tv shows and newscasts to reflect on the victimization of gays,you are told of innocent gays ruthlessly attacked by thugs,leaving in there wake heartbroken parents who sob and proclaim there boy never hurt anyone,and didn't deserve this.Then you pass a hate crime law that quadruples the penalty for assaulting someone based on sexual preference,and then you start parading them in public everywhere giving the illusion that theres many more than there actually is. So here we go, now the guy who would have knocked your ass out 5 years ago,feels social pressure to be more accepting of your lifestyle and to back that up he`s looking at a 10 year stint in the joint if he lays a finger on you.It`s something the authorities have been doing for decades.While blacks run the streets attacking white people left and right, the govt campaign of political correctness has pretty much castrated the white man.Any action he takes other than capitulation results in prison or societal rejection and admonishment.people are so easily manipulated,it`s kinda scary.To answer your question though,yeah it`s not a real acceptance of you by us straight guys because even though the penalties he faces for not treating you civilly will keep him in check, the actual act of male homosexuality is (sorry but true) fucking repulsive to most straight men,and if you want to test those waters just start making out with a dude in public.I wouldn`t advise it.
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I'm impressed by your "objectivity"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420

I`m being honest.I believe that if everyone would just say what`s on there minds rather than doing themselves a disservice and keeping there true feelings bottled up, things would be tremendously easier in life.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
So you`re being accepted now, you`re not getting beat up anymore, people don't treat you like a leper anymore and you`re........BITCHING ABOUT IT?! It`s called social engineering.First you arrange various tv shows and newscasts to reflect on the victimization of gays,you are told of innocent gays ruthlessly attacked by thugs,leaving in there wake heartbroken parents who sob and proclaim there boy never hurt anyone,and didn't deserve this.Then you pass a hate crime law that quadruples the penalty for assaulting someone based on sexual preference,and then you start parading them in public everywhere giving the illusion that theres many more than there actually is. So here we go, now the guy who would have knocked your ass out 5 years ago,feels social pressure to be more accepting of your lifestyle and to back that up he`s looking at a 10 year stint in the joint if he lays a finger on you.It`s something the authorities have been doing for decades.While blacks run the streets attacking white people left and right, the govt campaign of political correctness has pretty much castrated the white man.Any action he takes other than capitulation results in prison or societal rejection and admonishment.people are so easily manipulated,it`s kinda scary.To answer your question though,yeah it`s not a real acceptance of you by us straight guys because even though the penalties he faces for not treating you civilly will keep him in check, the actual act of male homosexuality is (sorry but true) fucking repulsive to most straight men,and if you want to test those waters just start making out with a dude in public.I wouldn`t advise it.
 Quoting: objective viewer



I'm impressed by your "objectivity"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420

I`m being honest.I believe that if everyone would just say what`s on there minds rather than doing themselves a disservice and keeping there true feelings bottled up, things would be tremendously easier in life.
 Quoting: objective viewer


Nothing in the thread says I'm bitching about the increasing tolerance of gays. I'm only question how sincere straight men are that's all. And I don't think they're sincere at all precisely because deep down they find it "fucking repulsive". I'd rather everyone just be honest about this stuff, and stop being so politically correct (ESPECIALLY GAY MEN). Thanks for the honest reply.
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
So you`re being accepted now, you`re not getting beat up anymore, people don't treat you like a leper anymore and you`re........BITCHING ABOUT IT?! It`s called social engineering.First you arrange various tv shows and newscasts to reflect on the victimization of gays,you are told of innocent gays ruthlessly attacked by thugs,leaving in there wake heartbroken parents who sob and proclaim there boy never hurt anyone,and didn't deserve this.Then you pass a hate crime law that quadruples the penalty for assaulting someone based on sexual preference,and then you start parading them in public everywhere giving the illusion that theres many more than there actually is. So here we go, now the guy who would have knocked your ass out 5 years ago,feels social pressure to be more accepting of your lifestyle and to back that up he`s looking at a 10 year stint in the joint if he lays a finger on you.It`s something the authorities have been doing for decades.While blacks run the streets attacking white people left and right, the govt campaign of political correctness has pretty much castrated the white man.Any action he takes other than capitulation results in prison or societal rejection and admonishment.people are so easily manipulated,it`s kinda scary.To answer your question though,yeah it`s not a real acceptance of you by us straight guys because even though the penalties he faces for not treating you civilly will keep him in check, the actual act of male homosexuality is (sorry but true) fucking repulsive to most straight men,and if you want to test those waters just start making out with a dude in public.I wouldn`t advise it.
 Quoting: objective viewer



I'm impressed by your "objectivity"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420

I`m being honest.I believe that if everyone would just say what`s on there minds rather than doing themselves a disservice and keeping there true feelings bottled up, things would be tremendously easier in life.
 Quoting: objective viewer


Nothing in the thread says I'm bitching about the increasing tolerance of gays. I'm only question how sincere straight men are that's all. And I don't think they're sincere at all precisely because deep down they find it "fucking repulsive". I'd rather everyone just be honest about this stuff, and stop being so politically correct (ESPECIALLY GAY MEN). Thanks for the honest reply.
 Quoting: riffraffrocks



More people are concerned about being Politically Correct..

Welcome to the world of *Liberalism*
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11/11/2012 05:18 PM
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
So you`re being accepted now, you`re not getting beat up anymore, people don't treat you like a leper anymore and you`re........BITCHING ABOUT IT?! It`s called social engineering.First you arrange various tv shows and newscasts to reflect on the victimization of gays,you are told of innocent gays ruthlessly attacked by thugs,leaving in there wake heartbroken parents who sob and proclaim there boy never hurt anyone,and didn't deserve this.Then you pass a hate crime law that quadruples the penalty for assaulting someone based on sexual preference,and then you start parading them in public everywhere giving the illusion that theres many more than there actually is. So here we go, now the guy who would have knocked your ass out 5 years ago,feels social pressure to be more accepting of your lifestyle and to back that up he`s looking at a 10 year stint in the joint if he lays a finger on you.It`s something the authorities have been doing for decades.While blacks run the streets attacking white people left and right, the govt campaign of political correctness has pretty much castrated the white man.Any action he takes other than capitulation results in prison or societal rejection and admonishment.people are so easily manipulated,it`s kinda scary.To answer your question though,yeah it`s not a real acceptance of you by us straight guys because even though the penalties he faces for not treating you civilly will keep him in check, the actual act of male homosexuality is (sorry but true) fucking repulsive to most straight men,and if you want to test those waters just start making out with a dude in public.I wouldn`t advise it.
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I'm impressed by your "objectivity"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27429420

I`m being honest.I believe that if everyone would just say what`s on there minds rather than doing themselves a disservice and keeping there true feelings bottled up, things would be tremendously easier in life.
 Quoting: objective viewer


Nothing in the thread says I'm bitching about the increasing tolerance of gays. I'm only question how sincere straight men are that's all. And I don't think they're sincere at all precisely because deep down they find it "fucking repulsive". I'd rather everyone just be honest about this stuff, and stop being so politically correct (ESPECIALLY GAY MEN). Thanks for the honest reply.
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They are not "repulsed" by it. They want to be fisted in the ass, stupid bitch!
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11/11/2012 05:21 PM
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
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You can't make everyone like you man. Some people will always be averse to homosexuality. As long as they aren't using violence against you I would just go on with life and not care about what other people are really thinking. Tolerance does not equal acceptance, nor should it.
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Tolerance doesn't equal acceptance. Fine! That's honest. It also means that gay men should stop acting like straight men are there buds, because that will never be the case. You can train a lion to tolerate a lamb in its cage, but it doesn't change the fact that it's a lion. Frankly, straight men have demonstrated themselves to be too cruel over the ages to be reformed. Gay men better remember that...
 Quoting: riffraffrocks


You actually seem at least as intolerant and biased against straight men as you believe them to be against you. Talking about Gay/Straight when people are just people, with different orientations. You need to wake up and smell the 21st century buddy.

Attitudes like yours are NOT acceptable. Hate is NEVER acceptable. One day, you are going to have to accept those who are different from you, and just deal with it.

Straight men who don't hate gay men are HERE, we are PROUD, and we are NOT GOING TO HIDE IT ANYMORE! 5a
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WHERE WERE YOU THE PAST TWO THOUSAND YEARS??? If we were having this conversation 30 years ago I guarantee you wouldn't be acting all self-righteously proud of how you like gays. You would have joined the jamboree, and said how homosexuality is abnormal, an aberration, yadda yadda yadda. How do I know this? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE SAID BACK THEN. JUST LIKE THEY SAID IT FOR COUNTLESS CENTURIES BEFORE. I'm sure there were straights that would have had the guts to speak up for us, but they were a tiny minority, and didn't dare anyway because the mob would have eaten them alive.

You can act all enlightened if you like, but the fact is that no one stood up for us since time immemorial until just the past 15-20 years. My guess is with you is that you are cool to gays because it's fashionable, just as 30 years ago you would have been a dick to gays because THAT was fashionable. That's the key...you follow THE FASHION, not due to any moral courage on your part.
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I wasn't even born 30 years ago, why am I responsible for histories mistakes? Your problem isn't being homosexual, it's just being stupid and looking for things to be offended by. Most of my gay friends are easily twice as intelligent as you, and are literally lol'ing over this thread. I'm not even "cool" to gays. I'm generally friendly to people, regardless of race/creed/orientation. And I'm about the furthest thing from fashionable you could imagine.

A direct quote from my gay friend Paul upon viewing this thread: "I bet he cries like a b---- when it's time to play bottom, too."
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11/11/2012 05:24 PM
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
You still can't get over your irrational hatred of straight men---without knowing me, I can't not hate gay men because I actually don't...you know...feel hatred towards them. It has to be because I'm just following the fashion of the time. How could you know that? You don't, but it makes sense to you, because all straight men are de facto untrustworthy and hostile to gays.

Basically, you have the exact same irrational preconceptions about straight men that you believe they harbor about you.
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11/11/2012 05:26 PM
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
Homosexuals should be Rounded up on The streets and Executed.
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11/11/2012 05:43 PM
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Re: Am I the only gay guy that doesn't buy the "straight guy sees the light" bullshit?
By 'haze of morality', I mean the mind-set that enables you to call me a commie and assume all this negative stuff because I'm a gay person, just because I want people to stop using false-morality to justify prejudice doesn't mean I'm a commie.

But at the same time I'm not going to say "I think straight and gay men are the same" because of political correctness.

In my experience homosexual men are generally smarter than their heterosexual counterparts, we think with our feelings more and the realization of your own homosexuality is the first step in a long, internal journey that most straight men don't even begin in their lifetime, because they have no reason to journey outside of the normalcy bias they have made their life inside of.

So to me you're not only ignorant, but emotionally and mentally stunted, and not just as a result of conditioning but because you're being physically destroyed through what you eat, and drink.

You're worried about me coming near your family? worry about yourself, because who's going to protect your children from your ignorance.

That's why I applaud the progressive moved LGBT people have made over the past 10 years, because now we don't even care if you accept us or not, we don't care about tolerance.

We're just going to move forward, in a very scientific way and we'll condition you to be complacent with the fact that we're conditioning your children through the media and in schools to be accepting of homosexual, lesbian and trans people.

Then when you die, your children will be your legacy that will think closer to what we desire, and the world will slowly change.

So back to what I said earlier about the fact that we are smarter; the proof is that we're patient and creating change slowly, where you go for protests and large events thinking change will happen all at once, reflective of your stunted mindset.





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