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I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed

 
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I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
I am of the belief that Islam is a false faith, and those who practice it are poor deceived individuals. Could I be wrong? I believe there is only one true God, and that Jesus was his only son, and only through acceptance of Jesus, and by asking for forgiveness and repentance of sins, can one enter heaven. Tell me why I should believe in Islam please. Also, feel free to discuss this. I am not wanting to stir up hatred, but rather open up the discussion for all, to express their views without being afraid of bashing by others. Only through honest, open dialog can we hope to see others views.
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
Dont want to get involved to much but after having a look at some of their daily practices i believe this to be true, along with the rest of them.
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
I believe that Jesus is your imaginary friend and that sharing him with millions of others makes it less likely to be real, rather than more.

But I can let you believe it, as long as you keep quiet about it in any way that harms me or mine.

I suggest you extend the same curtsey to Islam, as well as all the other religions. They are all as valid as yours. ALL of them.

Including Satanism (which is one of the Christian pantheon faiths, in case you missed that... I know, you want to call it something different, but there is no Satan without Christianity... Their faith requires them to first accept that your god and religion is real, then rejecting it... So, own 'em!)Judaism and Buddhism.

:)


If you want an honest and fair discussion on the topic, I mean.

All religions are equally unprovable, which means they have to share equal footing in the world, unless we're to simply dismiss them all.
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
I believe that Jesus is your imaginary friend and that sharing him with millions of others makes it less likely to be real, rather than more.

But I can let you believe it, as long as you keep quiet about it in any way that harms me or mine.

I suggest you extend the same curtsey to Islam, as well as all the other religions. They are all as valid as yours. ALL of them.

Including Satanism (which is one of the Christian pantheon faiths, in case you missed that... I know, you want to call it something different, but there is no Satan without Christianity... Their faith requires them to first accept that your god and religion is real, then rejecting it... So, own 'em!)Judaism and Buddhism.

:)


If you want an honest and fair discussion on the topic, I mean.

All religions are equally unprovable, which means they have to share equal footing in the world, unless we're to simply dismiss them all.
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Thanks for your input! I respect others rights to believe as they see fit, however, I feel that when all is said and done, and we all pass away into the next life, many will be sad when they realize they passed up the opportunity to accept Jesus as their savior, and passed up the chance to repent of their sins. I am not perfect, none of us are, and although I commit sins too, I still try my best every day to flee from sin, and ask forgivness for the times when I am weak. Peace be with you all!!clappa
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
We know more about Mohamad than we know about any other Prophet. Its quite certain he existed and that he and his early followers genuinely believed the one and only God was revealing an installment of the one true religion to him. Jews and Christians were among the first to tell him he was a Prophet of God.

We can't prove or disprove whether angels really spoke to any of the prophets. What we do know is that however many good men hear voices, sometimes one gets contacted at just the right time to save his people from extinction (cultural or physical) and advance humanity. Mohamad certainly did that. He is the most influential figure in history.

You don't really want to learn. You want to keep repeating your creed.

Apparently God created vast mutiverses from nothing, that will last for eternity, worlds and stars and galaxies--and he created our little earth and us--and for some reason we have to believe what ONE guy taught for only THREE YEARS or we have to be tormented eternally. I think that is silly.

If you want to say Christianity is the best religion because it teaches love and compassion or because its got nice strological stories or because it inspired beautiful art and music and architecture you are inviting others to dialogue. When you say jesus is the blah blah blah and won't we be sorry if we end up in hell--that's just senseless proselytizing. See, to people who weren't taught that as impressionable trusting children. It just sounds silly. It makes your god seem silly.

What is most probably true is that we come back again and again and again. We live forever. We live many, many lives. Its OK to be a Christian or a Muslim or a Jew. Many people have lived noble lives on these paths. That's why they are still around. There are benefits to mankind from them.

Muslims have the most tolerant of the Abrahamic religions. Its the very best one. But you will never look at it honestly because you are afraid to lose your faith in Jesus-as-the-only-way. But its OK. Your soul is OK. There is no eternal torment. You don't go to hell for being scared as a child. God loves you as you are.
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
I believe that Jesus is your imaginary friend and that sharing him with millions of others makes it less likely to be real, rather than more.

But I can let you believe it, as long as you keep quiet about it in any way that harms me or mine.

I suggest you extend the same curtsey to Islam, as well as all the other religions. They are all as valid as yours. ALL of them.

Including Satanism (which is one of the Christian pantheon faiths, in case you missed that... I know, you want to call it something different, but there is no Satan without Christianity... Their faith requires them to first accept that your god and religion is real, then rejecting it... So, own 'em!)Judaism and Buddhism.

:)


If you want an honest and fair discussion on the topic, I mean.

All religions are equally unprovable, which means they have to share equal footing in the world, unless we're to simply dismiss them all.
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live and learn as they say

in your case it will require your being stuck on the hell side of heaven, wrong side of the gulf for a full thousand years during the Millennium Age

but that's ok, cuz you will be taught truth for the full duration of that time frame

and it will either give you the impetus to bother stepping up and facing the truth or an excuse to follow satan into the Lake of Fire which will be opened up for a short time at the end of said Age just after the Great White Throne Judgment of all souls

read it and weep, matters not to me

you on the other hand would likely find otherwise in your own regard

the hard way

whatever it takes, you're IN
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
We know more about Mohamad than we know about any other Prophet.
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We know all too much about him.

Mass murderer. Check.
Pedophile. Check.
Wife beater. Check.
Extortionist. Check.

Think we know too much about him.
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11/11/2012 04:13 AM
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
well, lets see.

Mohammad fucked a 9 year old Aisha.

God (Jesus) fucked a 12 year old Mary and gave birth to himself.

Who is more fucked up? I don't know. You decide.
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
well, lets see.

Mohammad fucked a 9 year old Aisha.

God (Jesus) fucked a 12 year old Mary and gave birth to himself.

Who is more fucked up? I don't know. You decide.
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Your husband needs to beat you some more.
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
I believe that Jesus is your imaginary friend and that sharing him with millions of others makes it less likely to be real, rather than more.

But I can let you believe it, as long as you keep quiet about it in any way that harms me or mine.

I suggest you extend the same curtsey to Islam, as well as all the other religions. They are all as valid as yours. ALL of them.

Including Satanism (which is one of the Christian pantheon faiths, in case you missed that... I know, you want to call it something different, but there is no Satan without Christianity... Their faith requires them to first accept that your god and religion is real, then rejecting it... So, own 'em!)Judaism and Buddhism.

:)


If you want an honest and fair discussion on the topic, I mean.

All religions are equally unprovable, which means they have to share equal footing in the world, unless we're to simply dismiss them all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1063435




live and learn as they say

in your case it will require your being stuck on the hell side of heaven, wrong side of the gulf for a full thousand years during the Millennium Age

but that's ok, cuz you will be taught truth for the full duration of that time frame

and it will either give you the impetus to bother stepping up and facing the truth or an excuse to follow satan into the Lake of Fire which will be opened up for a short time at the end of said Age just after the Great White Throne Judgment of all souls

read it and weep, matters not to me

you on the other hand would likely find otherwise in your own regard

the hard way

whatever it takes, you're IN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27483500


You imaginary friend told you that you should try to terrorize people if they don't believe what you (or he...) said?

Interesting!

Christianity has had 2,000 plus (count em) years to prove they weren't just making stuff up.

So far, no joy.

So, for right now, how about you keep the highly unlikely threats to yourself?

You can believe as you like, but the second you start making threats of eternal damnation (or what have you) then you're stepping past the bounds of whats allowed.

Terrorism is wrong, in all it's forms.
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
I believe that Jesus is your imaginary friend and that sharing him with millions of others makes it less likely to be real, rather than more.

But I can let you believe it, as long as you keep quiet about it in any way that harms me or mine.

I suggest you extend the same curtsey to Islam, as well as all the other religions. They are all as valid as yours. ALL of them.

Including Satanism (which is one of the Christian pantheon faiths, in case you missed that... I know, you want to call it something different, but there is no Satan without Christianity... Their faith requires them to first accept that your god and religion is real, then rejecting it... So, own 'em!)Judaism and Buddhism.

:)


If you want an honest and fair discussion on the topic, I mean.

All religions are equally unprovable, which means they have to share equal footing in the world, unless we're to simply dismiss them all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1063435


Satanism does not require belief in Jesus/God. The symbol of Satan has been adopted as it means adversary or opposer in the Judeo Christian tradition. If the majority religion was Jedi, Satanists would simply adopt Dath Vader as their symbolic 'god'...
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
well, lets see.

Mohammad fucked a 9 year old Aisha.

God (Jesus) fucked a 12 year old Mary and gave birth to himself.

Who is more fucked up? I don't know. You decide.
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cruise
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
I have nothing nice or civil to say about any religion from that part of the planet...
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
Absolutely...I agree totally.

And the exact same can be said for Christianity, seeing as how both religions are based upon Abraham. wink
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
Fuck all of the religions and the imaginary friends that you dumb ass religio-tards run around screaming and crying about.

You're all a bunch of fucking slaves.
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
I am of the belief that Islam is a false faith, and those who practice it are poor deceived individuals. Could I be wrong? I believe there is only one true God, and that Jesus was his only son, and only through acceptance of Jesus, and by asking for forgiveness and repentance of sins, can one enter heaven. Tell me why I should believe in Islam please. Also, feel free to discuss this. I am not wanting to stir up hatred, but rather open up the discussion for all, to express their views without being afraid of bashing by others. Only through honest, open dialog can we hope to see others views.
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In order to have a discussion like this you have to take the time to state your case, why you believe it and what proof you have to support it.

You have offered nothing so you've lost the discussion already.
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
I am of the belief that Islam is a false faith, and those who practice it are poor deceived individuals. Could I be wrong? I believe there is only one true God, and that Jesus was his only son, and only through acceptance of Jesus, and by asking for forgiveness and repentance of sins, can one enter heaven. Tell me why I should believe in Islam please. Also, feel free to discuss this. I am not wanting to stir up hatred, but rather open up the discussion for all, to express their views without being afraid of bashing by others. Only through honest, open dialog can we hope to see others views.
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Indeed the koran is fake. Just like the christian bible.
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there cannot be open and honest discussion on this topic ... deadhorse

Last Edited by GMarq on 11/11/2012 05:09 AM
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
dont you get it op? all religions are only a small piece of a greater puzzle each.. they are all valid and are all tools used to reach the same end goal which is the source.. doesnt matter what your belief dont be seeing others as less than you for not being brought up in the same delusion or idea you call the truth for you are all deluded as one nother.. religion is only the first step towards god.. when you can overcome religion and know god as god then you will realize its all good and its all the same for the path has many places to start yet the journey can take you places you couldnt imagine.. life goes on.. whether on this side or other side.. and dont fall to the idea that just someone who claims to believe in jesus or claims they are saved by jesus are infact saved or even know that lord for his truth or even have love in their heart for the true lord and not a fake version of him which would infact be the beast.. focus on your own salvation for you are no help to another nor another any help to you.. the lord has it all covered.. your religion and all others are only small pieces of a much much greater truth remember that please and dont let your ignorance consume you.. proceed ;)
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
lmao

discrediting one bunch of bullshit by invoking another bunch of bullshit

another do

nice one OP!

clappa
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
OP, just be a good christian. Don't grapple with other religions. If Islam is the true faith, good Christians go to heaven. If Christianity is what it says it is, good Christians still go to heaven. If there is no God, good Christians fare no worse than anyone else. You really can't lose.
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Re: I truly want to have a open and honest discussion. I believe the Koran is a lie and Muhammad never existed
Muhammed was an appropriate man of his time, a very human tribal warlord. Those who "follow" him are called to revert back to the concerns and morals of his era. Unless there is ever a "new" Koran, their mindset just doesn't and will never evolve.

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