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It was another Lord McAlpine!

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/11/2012 07:41 AM
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It was another Lord McAlpine!
The boss of the BBC resigned yesterday several days after its premier current affairs program “Newsnight”, although not naming him, wrongly pointed to Lord McAlpine, close adviser to Margaret Thatcher when she was the British Prime Minister, as the sexual abuser of Steve Meesham and other children during the 1970s. When he was originally questioned by the police, Steve said that they had shown him a photo of a man whom he recognized as his abuser. He said that the police told him that it was "Lord McAlpine". Newsnight accepted his claim without checking whether it was the current Lord McAlpine before the story was broadcast. Then Steve was shown a photo of Lord McAlpine and he was horrified to realize that it was not the man who had abused him more than a dozen times as a child, and he quickly issued an apology to him. Now, some of the BBC staff are facing the sack over their sloppy journalism and the BBC is facing its biggest crisis for many years.

People have been perplexed by this retraction because it implied that the police had either misidentified the man or had deliberately given Steve the wrong name in order to discredit his claim as unreliable when the mistake eventually came exposed. The former possibility seems highly unlikely, whilst the latter took the general level of paedophile conspiracy to a new level that most people other than conspiracy theorists would find hard to believe. Others took his retraction to mean that he had been threatened to withdraw his accusation.

I now propose a more plausible explanation of what happened. There was a second Lord McAlpine – in fact, there were several. Besides the man in the middle of the current controversy -the life peer, created in 1984, Alistair McAlpine, Baron McAlpine of West Green, there was also a McAlpine baronetage:
[link to www.leighrayment.com]
Sir Thomas George Bishop McAlpine, was the 4th Baronet (1901-1983). Alistair McAlpine
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
second son of the fifth Baronet and the man misnamed by Steve Meesham, was created a life peer as Baron McAlpine of West Green in 1984. I cannot find on the internet a photo of Sir Thomas, who was the older brother of Alistair McAlpine’s father, Robert Edwin McAlpine. People on Icke’s forum are misidentifying the abuser as Robert Edwin McAlpine, Alistair McAlpine’s father,
[link to www.npg.org.uk]
who was for four years vice-president of the National Children’s Home until his death – witness this photo with his posing with Thatcher and children in connection with a missing children campaign:
[link to www.gettyimages.co.uk]
I say “misidentifying” because this is inconsistent with the fact that, when a Times reporter put Lord McAlpine’s name to Meesham in 1996, he said his abuser was in fact called “Tom”. However, it is consistent with his abuser being Sir Thomas McAlpine. However, Meesham said originally that his abuser died in the 1990s. But Sir Thomas McAlpine died in 1983, whilst Robert Edwin McAlpine died in 1990
[link to www.leighrayment.com]
Of course, Steve might be confused about the time, but the discrepancy does leave some uncertainty in the identification. However, in my opinion it does not trump the vital information that, surely, clinches the identification, namely. his remembering his abuser’s name as Tom.

Did, therefore, bloggers and journalists, hearing the name “Lord McAlpine”, automatically assume that it was Thatcher’s advisor, when it was really his uncle with the very name that Steve had heard? Steve did not make a mistake. Nor did the police. It was just the wrong Lord McAlpine.
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11/11/2012 08:05 AM
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Re: It was another Lord McAlpine!
Wow OP! That was a nice piece of work. You should be a journalist (maybe you are!)
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11/11/2012 08:10 AM
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Re: It was another Lord McAlpine!
Wow OP! That was a nice piece of work. You should be a journalist (maybe you are!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26712340

Thanks. Um, yes, I am. But mainstream editors don't want to touch this with a barge pole, so I have to use the internet.
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11/11/2012 10:42 AM
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Re: It was another Lord McAlpine!
A blogger called "Justice denied" has asked: why did the police leave the abuser of Steven Meesham to go on to abuse more children for 25 years once Steven had pointed out to them the man in one of the photos he supplied to them?
[link to google-law.blogspot.co.uk]
Well, it was all part of the cover-up. But the more interesting question is this: Sian Griffiths, who worked for Clwyd Council in the inquiry office on the 1994 Jillings and six years later on the Waterhouse inquiry, which looked into the systematic abuse at the children’s homes, told ITV News that Steven's photos were ordered to be destroyed and that the police said they could not identify the faces of the men shown abusing children. This traps them in a lie, for how could they have originally told Meesham who the man he had pointed out was if none of the faces could be identifed?! They surely had access to the original statements, including what their colleagues had told Steven when he showed his photos to the police?

The blogger also mysteriously states that:
"It is now agreed that the abuser was in fact Lord McAlpine's, conveniently deceased, cousin, Afred James McAlpine
[link to www.thepeerage.com]
who lived in North Wales where his family had raped the countryside through Quarrying."
Agreed by whom? We now know that there are several candidate McAlpines who were living at the time in Wales and so why choose this one? Especially when he went by the name of Jimmy, whereas Steven said that his abuser was known as Tom, which is consistent with his abuser being his uncle Sir Thomas George Bishop McAlpine McAlpine,
[link to www.thepeerage.com]
who died in 1983.
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11/19/2012 02:19 PM
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Re: It was another Lord McAlpine!
bump
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11/19/2012 02:20 PM
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Re: It was another Lord McAlpine!
Is it now true that this Lord is trying to shut down twitter?wtf
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11/19/2012 07:03 PM
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McAlpine has so far received more money in compensation from the bbc than the majority of the children who were actually raped and abused got.
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11/19/2012 07:14 PM
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Re: It was another Lord McAlpine!
Keep digging OP.

This is a stinky situation.
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07/13/2013 07:45 PM
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Re: It was another Lord McAlpine!
pigchef
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Re: It was another Lord McAlpine!
oh well, at least he can hold his head up high now, outside the pearly gates.

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]