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So, You Want Secession from the Union?

 
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11/11/2012 09:32 AM
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So, You Want Secession from the Union?
Before this could even be a possibility, The People would have to unite to form an alternative government, standing up to assume that role in all its positions.

Assumed powers is the keyword.

All governments are an assumed power, or authority, given power only by their will, intent, and the public's acceptance (participation).

Now, even if secession did happen, we know from history that the british monarchy would not be pleased, since America is currently on the fast track back into to hands of the very tyrants that our forefathers warned us about, and those tyrants have the federal government pulling the strings that bind us in terror.

It's always been "the fed" who has been directly responsible for terrorism, war, and internal strife in all nations targeted by the royal (douche) crown.

The real battle for Americans wanting freedom from tyrannical government is within.... brother VS brother, neighbor VS neighbor... there are those souless humans that are willing to hurt another free man, woman or child to keep the system going. Maybe for a paycheck, or for the power of being over the next person (law enforcement), or for personal/financial gain.

These are the enemies of freedom.... the men and women who sell out their own soul, and fellow Man for their own pleasure or gain.... just following orders, " just doing my job".

There are millions of these people in America... thousands in each state. These are the corporate officials of the union, and their only real power is their assumed authority, given power by the publics acceptance and participation.

Stop participation in all faucets of federal government. Stop taking their blood money, stop paying what's intended to be voluntary federal taxes, stop accepting grants, don't allow yourself to work for companies who get federal grants/funding.

Stand up and organize a new government, assign your officers to their positions, even as the old government clings onto their assumed (irrelevant) authority.

Buid your Army of dedicated Americans who will fight for our constitutional republic, for they are the only true and authorized American Government.

Assume the roles. Stand together. Remove the soulless citizens who hold together this tyranny....

Together we outnumber them all 10,000 to 1.

The only power they have is the publics (your) participation.
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11/11/2012 09:42 AM
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Re: So, You Want Secession from the Union?
Yes.
TexasFreedom
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11/11/2012 09:46 AM
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5 * OP.

Secede!

America 1.0 has encountered a fatal error.
Time to install America 2.0 and reboot.

:texas:
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11/11/2012 09:49 AM
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Re: So, You Want Secession from the Union?
Just about time for the enema nozzle to be inserted...
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11/11/2012 09:51 AM
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Thread: It is all beginning to make perfect sense...America.
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11/11/2012 09:53 AM
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Re: So, You Want Secession from the Union?
Technically ... The original republics still exists they are just vacant...

All of their constituents signed upto be USCitizens (14th amendment) (there is an oath on the voting form making you a federal employee, i.e. USCitizne)

I would technically be a state citizen, but the Republic of Florida is vacant (and also, defeated) ..... Although I never surrendered, and never will... there still isn't a constituency ... so I am native ...

Just a man baby ....!

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11/11/2012 10:23 AM
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any such movement is infiltrated and neutered before it starts
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11/11/2012 10:24 AM
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in fact it is usually "them" who start such movements

The best way to control the opposition is to lead it - Lenin
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secession comes from the respective governor.

this is shit. just a bunch of revolutiontards using virtual pickets.
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11/11/2012 07:00 PM
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Since the values,, views,, and understandings of issues are a complete 180 degrees off between the red and blue states,, I see no other way to salvage the better part of this country then for each to go its own direction..

When one looks at the election map of the USA, by county, its just the few small areas of where the masses of sheeple live who got BO back for his 2nd term anyway.. If one would take the surface area of the country and vote's,, it would have been 98% all RED..

The government we have now is way too top heavy,, and stumbles over itself and is so wasteful no matter what they try to handle.

Like one friend told me about issues with Sandy,, our govt people are staying in privet rooms at $250 a day plus a $110 a day meal budget.. While 1000s are all but homeless and cold and hungry.. Its just not right!

Any one of the offices like the EPA,, are so out of control,, and so far away from being in touch with any form of reality,, its just plain simple they did there job back in the late 70s and 80s to clean up our air and water but they keep going for 166% and not happy with 100%.

Just think the mass relocation that would happen from the coasts if the center core of the nation would turn back the hands of time to around 1960 sized government,,, Just about every company,, and freedom loving person would come running back to have a better chance of the American dream.

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11/11/2012 07:05 PM
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Since the values,, views,, and understandings of issues are a complete 180 degrees off between the red and blue states,, I see no other way to salvage the better part of this country then for each to go its own direction..

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^^^ This ^^^.

There is no common ground between communists and people who want the republic & protection for individual rights.
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11/11/2012 07:29 PM
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Re: So, You Want Secession from the Union?
Hell no.

Turn back time to 63, Kennedy survives and gets rid of the FED and the CIA for a start.

Either that or fire everybody in Washington and start over again.

Everybody does realize ?? that our govt is not doing anything that the majority of the US population wants ??
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11/11/2012 07:37 PM
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Hell no.

Turn back time to 63, Kennedy survives and gets rid of the FED and the CIA for a start.

Either that or fire everybody in Washington and start over again.

Everybody does realize ?? that our govt is not doing anything that the majority of the US population wants ??
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This would be the equivalent of getting the Quantum Leap device to work properly, getting Sam to have the right information at the right time, and seeing him prevent disaster and this horrible alternative timeline.
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Re: So, You Want Secession from the Union?
There are ALREADY 50 sovereign state governments
plus one federal government that make up the USA.

The 50 states could hold a convention and
dissolve the union tomorrow if they wished.

The reason it didn't work before was that there
were objections to succession by the other states.

They too could have gone along with it if the
political will had been there, and there would have
been no Civil War, and two seperate countries today.
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11/11/2012 07:46 PM
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Let's just abolish the antiquated notion of nation-states as they have outlived their usefulness. There's only one world so we might as well start acting like it.
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11/11/2012 07:51 PM
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Re: So, You Want Secession from the Union?
i think it's inevitable.

and i live in one of the states most likely to.
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11/11/2012 08:45 PM
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it's time to light the candle
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11/11/2012 08:59 PM
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5 * OP.

Secede!

America 1.0 has encountered a fatal error.
Time to install America 2.0 and reboot.

:texas:
 Quoting: TexasFreedom 27515534


Let me help everyone out here.. Since you all seem to think you need to petition or ask to leave the US run system.. WTF is that?.. Are you going to ask your spouse if it's OK to bail out and get a divorce? Are you going to ask permission to quit your job?.. Fuck no.. Then why would you petition any one to do something they don't want you to do?.. Answer: You just do it! One county at a time.. Forget the whole state... that is never going to happen!.. Pissin in the wind.. Maybe some of you are secretly stupid and think you can get anywhere legally...in the courts or with Congress.. Do it right!


I 5 Stared this.. in the faint hopes that one of the tards on this site can at least bring the idea forward to the right people to consider NOT asking permission and do it one county at a time.. ALL ELSE WILL FAIL!
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11/11/2012 09:03 PM
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But it has to be done simultaneously, or nearly, in order to limit the effectiveness of any hostile response.
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11/12/2012 12:30 AM
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bump
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11/12/2012 04:31 PM
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But it has to be done simultaneously, or nearly, in order to limit the effectiveness of any hostile response.
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bump

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