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has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/11/2012 03:48 PM
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They actually check your juvenile record. I was completely clean before I bought my first gun. They had me spend almost $2K before everything was done.
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Spend on what? They're doing the checking, right?
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11/11/2012 03:50 PM
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Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
went to a gun show here in town this morning and tried to buy a Bushmaster AR 5.56 and was told by the dealer that my background check had been delayed for further investigation.

I have no criminal record or anything in my past that would stop me from buying another gun. has this happened to anyone else lately?
 Quoting: TDJ


join the crowd. I was trying to buy a shotgun in about 2008.

Still to this day i havent heard back. They told me they couldn't sell it to me.
I called the FBI place to see why I couldn't buy . The lady was a total bitch and said she couldn't tell me.


Isnt that some shit?
 Quoting: TSWB21


Did you try to buy it again from another store, just to see if there was some glitch? Just curious.
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No just the one store. The FBI system they used stopped the sell.

Then they gave me the number to call. They answer the phone , but they are a-holes. They wouldn't tell me anything , and treat you like a terrorist.Then they hang up on you.
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11/11/2012 03:51 PM
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Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
You will either get a visit within 48 hrs, or get the OK. They might just have to retro-fit the gun with the proper tracking,gps,and RFDI Tags/equipment. Shhhhh...that last parts secret!
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I wasn't pissed when I tried to buy it but I am now!!! LOL

:furry shooter:
 Quoting: TDJ


Don't worry. If you never committed a felony or have a mental record it will pass.

Just wait a bit. They'll have to give you a legitimate reason to refuse you on background check, otherwise they will be violating your 2nd Amendment Rights, at which point I'd find a lawyer.
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They wont tell you . Been there and done that.
 Quoting: TSWB21


You can order your FBI file for like $20 or something.
I don't think it's all inclusive, but is shows the standard stuff that might be held against you.
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11/11/2012 03:53 PM
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I wasn't pissed when I tried to buy it but I am now!!! LOL

furry shooter
 Quoting: TDJ


Don't worry. If you never committed a felony or have a mental record it will pass.

Just wait a bit. They'll have to give you a legitimate reason to refuse you on background check, otherwise they will be violating your 2nd Amendment Rights, at which point I'd find a lawyer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26826431


They wont tell you . Been there and done that.
 Quoting: TSWB21


You can order your FBI file for like $20 or something.
I don't think it's all inclusive, but is shows the standard stuff that might be held against you.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


how do i order it?
Nodogma

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11/11/2012 03:53 PM

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Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Husband had no problem buying a handgun and a rifle on the same day. We do have problems buying ammo. We can only use cash. The store won't accept our debit card if we are using it to buy ammo.
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11/11/2012 04:00 PM
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Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Husband had no problem buying a handgun and a rifle on the same day. We do have problems buying ammo. We can only use cash. The store won't accept our debit card if we are using it to buy ammo.
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Buy your ammo from Walmart. They accept everything.
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11/11/2012 04:06 PM
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Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
went to a gun show here in town this morning and tried to buy a Bushmaster AR 5.56 and was told by the dealer that my background check had been delayed for further investigation.

I have no criminal record or anything in my past that would stop me from buying another gun. has this happened to anyone else lately?
 Quoting: TDJ


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EVIL_BEAN_KID

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11/11/2012 04:13 PM

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i would consider it completely random.
SLAM THAT CLAM
Nodogma

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11/11/2012 04:13 PM

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Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Husband had no problem buying a handgun and a rifle on the same day. We do have problems buying ammo. We can only use cash. The store won't accept our debit card if we are using it to buy ammo.
 Quoting: Nodogma


Buy your ammo from Walmart. They accept everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26826431


Nope. That's the first place he tried. I forgot to mention that he found out that he is on a "list"
Anonymous Coward
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11/11/2012 04:18 PM
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I was filling out papers for a background check to buy a gun and mentioned that I had CC, and the dealer asked why I didn't say so at first. They just took my cc number and it was a done deal.
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11/11/2012 04:22 PM
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I get delayed every single time..
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11/11/2012 04:30 PM
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Ruh roh ! Mine go right thru with in minutes, Somethings up OP.
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The guy said that he's had a call back the same day for approval. Wonder if the sites like this really get you on a list?
 Quoting: TDJ


BEFORE I was ever posting here I was forced into applying for a job (always worked for myself). I was turned down because they said I had a record with the FBI!(?)

ME? WTF?

I googled my myself and found someone with the my name was the leader of some Knights of (not Columbus, forgot what) in Washington DC.

I'm back to working for myself. Haven't tried to buy a firearm tho. I already have what I need. But I have been contemplating it. Hope I don't get the same treatment. I talked with an attorney and there's nothing I can do about the name thing or the FBI. Most lawyers don't want to go up against them. But then, most lawyers suck.
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11/11/2012 04:39 PM
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Ok to clear this up. The ATF can delay the sale of a firearm up to 3 business days. If after 3 business days they have not contacted the dealer, you can pick your weapon up.
s. d. butler

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11/11/2012 04:44 PM
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It's a pattern, I was " delayed" for an m1 garand purchase from the CMP 2 weeks after purchasing another firearm with no delay. I think they're doing it on purpose. All the gun forums are talking about this, some say its because so many peeps are buyin guns and overwhelming the instacheck, others say its because your "name matches a prohibited person" and you didn't give them your slave ID number.....

It's bullshit the government only pretends to fail...
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maybe. otoh never infer malicious intent to what is merely normal incompetence.
crestedone

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11/11/2012 04:44 PM
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Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
just buy it from your neighborhood gang banger, no delays there.
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11/11/2012 04:49 PM
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Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
1.) Bumping your own thread is sad.
2.) I noticed you didn't mention anything about not having a history of mental illness. That is also taken in to consideration. It's not just criminal records that matter.
Anonymous Coward
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11/11/2012 04:55 PM
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I bought an AK about a year ago. Nothing on my record. Retired military. The owner told me 90% of the replys are back within a half hour. Mine went the full 7 days. If they don't receive a reply within 7 days it's then legal to sell you the weapon. I don't know what took so long. Maybe it's the web sites I frequent.
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11/11/2012 05:01 PM
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I just bought a Remington 700 a couple days ago. No approval problems. Of course, the guy didn't ask my name and I didn't ask his. He asked me if there was any reason he couldn't sell me the gun. I said no. I asked if it was stolen, he said no. I handed him the money. He handed me the gun.

Of course, there are only 33 states you can do that in. 17 require background checks.

Establish residency in a good state. Buy guns all you want.

The fallacy of "they are going to come and get your guns" just makes me laugh! How are they going to find them? In my state they won't know because, while I have over 50 guns, there are only about 5 of them that I have had to hand over my "Paperz Pleez..."
Hardwired

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11/11/2012 05:02 PM

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The waiting period in Idaho is still the time it takes you to pull the cash from your wallet.

I have not, but I've passed 3 FBI background checks, so I guess I'm golden.
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11/11/2012 05:03 PM
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Did you give your SS# on background check?
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Yes. wasn't crazy about it
 Quoting: TDJ


Anyone using a SS # is not a free man, you are just a government employee who is only afforded the benefits the government allows you.

If they say you can't have guns, you can't have guns. You've given up all you're God given rights to live under mamons rule, ie: you cannot serve two masters. I don't care what rights you think you have I KNOW what benefits you are afforded. If you play nice you may get your guns.
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Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
You can order your FBI file for like $20 or something.
I don't think it's all inclusive, but is shows the standard stuff that might be held against you.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


how do i order it?
 Quoting: TSWB21


This might be it. It's been a decade since I last looked.
[link to www.fbi.gov]
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11/11/2012 05:26 PM
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Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
went to a gun show here in town this morning and tried to buy a Bushmaster AR 5.56 and was told by the dealer that my background check had been delayed for further investigation.

I have no criminal record or anything in my past that would stop me from buying another gun. has this happened to anyone else lately?
 Quoting: TDJ


but you are quoting Bob Weir... yup, in bed w the gang at Bohemian Grove... see him talk about it on youtube...
and
watch:
The Net - The Unabomber. LSD and the Internet 

a) the connections a German documentary make on how the decision to permeate our culture with hallucinogens, from the highest levels of TPTB, especially from scientific and arts culture--this is to make culture easier to mold and allow for the supernatural element the elite worship to more fully permeate society... see Roger Morneau for his take on "spirit demons" fascinating...
b) unabomber to this day denies making bombs (seems odd)
c) unabomber took part in mind-control program at Harvard.
d) The interviews of famous intellectuals and artists who helped usher in the internet and the enslaving technocracy are funny and surprising.
e) shows that reality is what we make it, literally... there is too much information for any theory to be complete and true, hence reality is a sort of manufactured "poem" by elite using science, arts, and media... grateful dead were originally called "The Warlocks"...
f) we can surmise a Christ-centered society was undesirable to this group of spirit worshippers/pagans... denial of God would also be part of this essentially agenda... listen also to Bob Dylan on 60 minutes admit to selling his soul to satan, who he calls "the chief commander"... unbelievable and sucky... time to wake up and grow up, I guess... :)

most of these dudes sold out--the opposition is usually predicted and controlled, IMO

:)
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11/11/2012 05:27 PM
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Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
went to a gun show here in town this morning and tried to buy a Bushmaster AR 5.56 and was told by the dealer that my background check had been delayed for further investigation.

I have no criminal record or anything in my past that would stop me from buying another gun. has this happened to anyone else lately?
 Quoting: TDJ


frequentS GLP

you DO know this is an intel asset? even thoguht its 99.99% bullshit

Last Edited by Intergalactic Diplomat on 11/11/2012 05:27 PM
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Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
went to a gun show here in town this morning and tried to buy a Bushmaster AR 5.56 and was told by the dealer that my background check had been delayed for further investigation.

I have no criminal record or anything in my past that would stop me from buying another gun. has this happened to anyone else lately?
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Last Edited by SaveUSa on 11/11/2012 05:50 PM
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11/11/2012 05:57 PM
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I bought an AK about a year ago. Nothing on my record. Retired military. The owner told me 90% of the replys are back within a half hour. Mine went the full 7 days. If they don't receive a reply within 7 days it's then legal to sell you the weapon. I don't know what took so long. Maybe it's the web sites I frequent.
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yep me to the full
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11/11/2012 06:05 PM
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Waited six minutes on an xds three weeks ago and waited five minutes yesterday on a m&p sport
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11/11/2012 06:13 PM
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Fuck'em, the more you get delayed, the more often you should buy!
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11/11/2012 06:13 PM
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Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
No matter the reason for the delay it's all bullshit. Where are all the dumbshits screaming about the gun show loophole? I don't see a loophole anywhere

BTW...I'm in Kansas
 Quoting: TDJ


The gun show loophole is an exaggerated myth. Most vendors at gun shows are FFL holders. It doesn't matter where/when they sell guns, if they do they must follow the ATF laws. Some people who sell guns at gun shows are private citizens and depending on the state they do not need to file paperwork for transfer of a firearm. Some states only require bill of sale and some like AZ don't even require that.

The real "loophole" are same state sales through websites or classifieds. Even then if I sell a gun I bought from an FFL you can bet your ass I am going to require a bill of sale just in case anything illegal is ever done with that gun.

Most gun shows are total shit nowadays anyway. All the private sellers have been forced out and prices are no lower than normal shops due to increased vendor fees. The only benefit of a gun show is to be able to touch and handle a variety of models and to find rare parts/mags without having to search online.
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11/11/2012 06:17 PM

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I had a 1 week delay while purchasing a rifle in Maryland because it was considered a regulated firearm. I believe the delay also applies to handgun purchases too since they need to do a ballistics test first. Gotta love being treated like a criminal for trying to exercise my rights. Still it's an improvement coming from NJ, where the process to even own a gun is so absurd and tied up with paperwork that it's one of the reasons I left the state.

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bought a handgun and a AR in the last 3 days. Took less than 15 minutes for each and these put me past 5 in just the last several months.

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