Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 2,607 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 1,257,215
Pageviews Today: 1,582,263Threads Today: 201Posts Today: 4,505
11:13 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8398786
United States
11/11/2012 06:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Thank God, the sooner they stop giving you guns the better. Its a scary thought that half of these GLP nut jobs can purchase a gun! Stop being little pussy bitches, use your fists to settle difference like the rest of the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16233071


your one bad mother,lets see how you fair when an armed intruder wants to rape your mother,sister,wiferockon or daughter.Good luck with that tough guy
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 22965576
United States
11/11/2012 06:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
went to a gun show here in town this morning and tried to buy a Bushmaster AR 5.56 and was told by the dealer that my background check had been delayed for further investigation.

I have no criminal record or anything in my past that would stop me from buying another gun. has this happened to anyone else lately?
 Quoting: TDJ


frequentS GLP

you DO know this is an intel asset? even thoguht its 99.99% bullshit
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle


Here all the time and never had to wait more than a couple minutes for anything I've ever purchased from AK's to handguns. So this place has nothing to do with it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25173233
United States
11/11/2012 07:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Im not 21 yet so no
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6750590
United States
11/11/2012 07:12 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Yes I was with a buddy when he was delayed buying a firearm.

He wanted a Glock 17 and it took them several weeks to get it for him instead of the 10 days. Nothing to do with supply this was purchased before the election.

Supply wise shops are running out fast of the more "Tactical" firearms.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 27548206
Germany
11/11/2012 07:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Yes, lifetime delay because of brain-dead laws in krautshit country.
FatalW1shes

User ID: 18009481
United States
11/11/2012 07:16 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
went to a gun show here in town this morning and tried to buy a Bushmaster AR 5.56 and was told by the dealer that my background check had been delayed for further investigation.

I have no criminal record or anything in my past that would stop me from buying another gun. has this happened to anyone else lately?
 Quoting: TDJ


I used to get delayed before I got my Conceal Carry license.


Reason was I had top secret clearance in the military and it took a while to get through the extra security.

Not sure if you were in the military but that is why mine was delayed.

Now it's no issue.


BTW, you should buy a Colt instead.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 27533269
United States
11/11/2012 07:20 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Yes, lifetime delay because of brain-dead laws in krautshit country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27548206


No offense, In the case of Germany, its a bit more than "brain dead laws".
Makesnosense
User ID: 26748791
United States
11/11/2012 07:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
This thread makes no sense. The FBI background check is instantaneous. They either tell you proceed, delay, or deny. It takes 5 minutes for the retailer to call the check in.

If they say proceed you take the gun with you at that time. If they say delay it can only be a max of three business days. If they deny you then you don't get the weapon.

I think some of you have been given the runaround by lazy retailers.

Some things I have noticed:

If you give your ssn you are less likely to get delayed, but that is optional.

Anyone claiming to have some kind of clearance gets delayed.

Most people who get denied know exactly why they are denied for felonies, domestic violence misdemeanors, or orders of protection against them.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17468450
United States
11/11/2012 07:36 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
went to a gun show here in town this morning and tried to buy a Bushmaster AR 5.56 and was told by the dealer that my background check had been delayed for further investigation.

I have no criminal record or anything in my past that would stop me from buying another gun. has this happened to anyone else lately?
 Quoting: TDJ


I've called these in hundreds of times and some individuals just get delayed. If they haven't made up their mind in three days the Brady law says the dealer can transfer the firearm anyways. In any case I wouldn't be worried like I said before many people get delayed and I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that they just randomly do it for no reason or cause. Hope this eases your mind a bit.
*HAARP Lady*

User ID: 24529351
United States
11/11/2012 07:37 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
I would worry about this - you can go to gun shows or auctions here in Missouri and walk out with a gun without any background check or anything!

Interesting!

~ Haarpy
Don't get mad - Get a Pepsi!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17468450
United States
11/11/2012 07:38 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
This thread makes no sense. The FBI background check is instantaneous. They either tell you proceed, delay, or deny. It takes 5 minutes for the retailer to call the check in.

If they say proceed you take the gun with you at that time. If they say delay it can only be a max of three business days. If they deny you then you don't get the weapon.

I think some of you have been given the runaround by lazy retailers.

Some things I have noticed:

If you give your ssn you are less likely to get delayed, but that is optional.

Anyone claiming to have some kind of clearance gets delayed.

Most people who get denied know exactly why they are denied for felonies, domestic violence misdemeanors, or orders of protection against them.
 Quoting: Makesnosense 26748791


I had a police officer tell me one time that he didn't have to fill one out. LOL Needless to say I called and checked he was a police officer but I opted to void the sale because he insisted he wasn't required. Make no mistake everyone has to fill out a 4473 even if they hold a special license waving the call in.
TDJ (OP)

User ID: 26423286
United States
11/11/2012 07:40 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
went to a gun show here in town this morning and tried to buy a Bushmaster AR 5.56 and was told by the dealer that my background check had been delayed for further investigation.

I have no criminal record or anything in my past that would stop me from buying another gun. has this happened to anyone else lately?
 Quoting: TDJ


I've called these in hundreds of times and some individuals just get delayed. If they haven't made up their mind in three days the Brady law says the dealer can transfer the firearm anyways. In any case I wouldn't be worried like I said before many people get delayed and I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that they just randomly do it for no reason or cause. Hope this eases your mind a bit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17468450


Thanks. That must be what's going on. I really have bought handguns recently and walked right out with them so I was curious why the delay.
If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.

Bob Marley

“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.”
THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809)

Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee
Avid Pothead

User ID: 27462435
United States
11/11/2012 07:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Not in Alabama, people are buying them like crazy. Sales have went up something like 50%. Sounds like the government has got you tagged. Watch out.rant
>:I
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17468450
United States
11/11/2012 07:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
went to a gun show here in town this morning and tried to buy a Bushmaster AR 5.56 and was told by the dealer that my background check had been delayed for further investigation.

I have no criminal record or anything in my past that would stop me from buying another gun. has this happened to anyone else lately?
 Quoting: TDJ


I've called these in hundreds of times and some individuals just get delayed. If they haven't made up their mind in three days the Brady law says the dealer can transfer the firearm anyways. In any case I wouldn't be worried like I said before many people get delayed and I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that they just randomly do it for no reason or cause. Hope this eases your mind a bit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17468450


Thanks. That must be what's going on. I really have bought handguns recently and walked right out with them so I was curious why the delay.
 Quoting: TDJ


I really do suspect you will get a call from the dealer telling you to come pick up your weapon. I've personally never had one get denied where the client didn't have something hiding in their closet. I've also had clients tell me they've just purchased one somewhere else and got instant approval so I see nothing wrong here. Sucks you couldn't walk out with your new toy though. Good Luck!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17468450
United States
11/11/2012 07:45 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Not in Alabama, people are buying them like crazy. Sales have went up something like 50%. Sounds like the government has got you tagged. Watch out.rant
 Quoting: Avid Pothead


I doubt the part about being tagged.
TDJ (OP)

User ID: 26423286
United States
11/11/2012 07:47 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
went to a gun show here in town this morning and tried to buy a Bushmaster AR 5.56 and was told by the dealer that my background check had been delayed for further investigation.

I have no criminal record or anything in my past that would stop me from buying another gun. has this happened to anyone else lately?
 Quoting: TDJ


I've called these in hundreds of times and some individuals just get delayed. If they haven't made up their mind in three days the Brady law says the dealer can transfer the firearm anyways. In any case I wouldn't be worried like I said before many people get delayed and I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that they just randomly do it for no reason or cause. Hope this eases your mind a bit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17468450


Thanks. That must be what's going on. I really have bought handguns recently and walked right out with them so I was curious why the delay.
 Quoting: TDJ


I really do suspect you will get a call from the dealer telling you to come pick up your weapon. I've personally never had one get denied where the client didn't have something hiding in their closet. I've also had clients tell me they've just purchased one somewhere else and got instant approval so I see nothing wrong here. Sucks you couldn't walk out with your new toy though. Good Luck!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17468450



spoons
If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.

Bob Marley

“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.”
THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809)

Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee
Makesnosense
User ID: 26748791
United States
11/11/2012 07:48 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Yeah everyone including that police officer has to fill one out.

OP sometimes I think the FBI gets backlogged and that can also cause a delay.

When a firearm is called in there can be two stages that the information passes through. The initial operator can say proceed or pass you on to another operator to do a little more thorough check. I think this is where the system gets gummed up occasionally.

Don't sweat it. If your not denied initially, you'll get your weapon in most cases.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1395091
Australia
11/11/2012 07:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
why do people need so many guns? What the fuck could you possibly do with more than 2 types, unless you were a collector or enthusiast?
TDJ (OP)

User ID: 26423286
United States
11/11/2012 07:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
why do people need so many guns? What the fuck could you possibly do with more than 2 types, unless you were a collector or enthusiast?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1395091


Anyone that has more than one gun is a collector. WTF difference does it make to you?
If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.

Bob Marley

“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.”
THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809)

Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18260563
United States
11/11/2012 07:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
^^^^^

There probably are a lot more collectors than you realize though.

Firearms can be a good hobby. It is something that is tangible, doesn't lose value unless it is miss-cared for, and tend to become heirloom items.

I'd rather hand my children a collection of guns when I am too old to use them, than tell them I drank my "fun" money away on the weekends at the bar.

Just a different hobby/collectors item, that isn't a complete waste of money (like many hobbies are), and can be used properly as a tool for hunting or used recreationally for target practice.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 26894409
United States
11/11/2012 08:03 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
It's cause you visit GLP. just jokin.... :p
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 27549343
United States
11/11/2012 08:10 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
It's cause you visit GLP. just jokin.... :p
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26894409


lol

no joke

when you apply to buy a firearm,
your profile is accessed from all
your posts on web sites, facebook,
criminal history, e-mail and phone
records before you are approved.

but this part of the process is
what they keep a secret.

they don't keep Echelon and Carnivore
operating for no damn reason !!

oh look, they just updated my profile :)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1148772
United States
11/11/2012 08:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Ruh roh ! Mine go right thru with in minutes, Somethings up OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10393879


The guy said that he's had a call back the same day for approval. Wonder if the sites like this really get you on a list?
 Quoting: TDJ


How many guns do you already have registered???
TDJ (OP)

User ID: 26423286
United States
11/11/2012 08:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Ruh roh ! Mine go right thru with in minutes, Somethings up OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10393879


The guy said that he's had a call back the same day for approval. Wonder if the sites like this really get you on a list?
 Quoting: TDJ


How many guns do you already have registered???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1148772


None are registered. No entity keeps track of what you have or what you've sold. It's just a process to keep criminals from acquiring them thru legal means. there are always people at shows trying to sell or trade their own guns
If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.

Bob Marley

“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.”
THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809)

Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee
Reachingfor Air

User ID: 8141692
United States
11/11/2012 08:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
13-weeks and counting. excuse after excuse. then they called and said we need to interview with you and bring money order. i showed up at local Ag office and they didn't know what i was talking about. everything was paid up and fine. several more weeks go by. i checked every couple of weeks. finally talked to another person and they said: "oh, you forgot to pay $37.oo for blah blah blah." still waiting.
TSWB21

User ID: 1267719
United States
11/11/2012 08:22 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
derp......

5a
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25861430
United States
11/11/2012 08:29 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
went to a gun show here in town this morning and tried to buy a Bushmaster AR 5.56 and was told by the dealer that my background check had been delayed for further investigation.

I have no criminal record or anything in my past that would stop me from buying another gun. has this happened to anyone else lately?
 Quoting: TDJ


OP, I don't know if this has been answered for you yet, since I'm just responding and not reading all the posts.

If you are Delayed: There is probably someone with a name and physical build which matches yours who has lost his right to self defense. 9 times out of 10 that's what it is.

"The Brady Law does not prohibit you from transferring the weapon on (current date +6 days)" is what the NICS call center says. That's VERBATIM what they say.

So yeah, it's probably nothing, don't fret. They do that shit to about 1:4 transfers. If they call back (which they do) before the 6 days have passed then the FFL should call you and let you know the results.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 27549343
United States
11/11/2012 08:30 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
No entity keeps track of what you have or what you've sold.
 Quoting: TDJ


bullshirt

a criminal investigator finds
a weapon at the scene of a homicide.

he can run the serial number to find
out who owns that firearm.

where the hell do you think that info
comes from ???

NCIC (National Crime Information Center)
Law Enforcement use it every day.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25861430
United States
11/11/2012 08:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
Ruh roh ! Mine go right thru with in minutes, Somethings up OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10393879


The guy said that he's had a call back the same day for approval. Wonder if the sites like this really get you on a list?
 Quoting: TDJ


How many guns do you already have registered???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1148772


None are registered. No entity keeps track of what you have or what you've sold. It's just a process to keep criminals from acquiring them thru legal means. there are always people at shows trying to sell or trade their own guns
 Quoting: TDJ


NICS only gets your name and social and the type of weapon intended to be transferred. Never the make/model or serial number. The call to them is very scripted and straight forward. There is no deviation from the 'question -> response' format.

The only records that are kept on single pistol or long gun purchases are to be held at the FFL's location that you purchased from (or handled the transfer for internet sales). Those are the Bound Book and the 4473's. Neither of which will leave the property, EVER. The atf can NOT take the original 4473's or the Bound Book. Period. Paragraph. End of story. FFL's have to mail the originals and the bound book to the atf upon relinquishing their FFL or closing that business location down. That's when the atf gets them, and never before that point in time. So buy from your local gun shops and keep the Bound Books in your State.

Now, the sale of Multiple Handguns (and multiple rifles if your in a border state) are recorded on an additional form as well as the 4473. The makes/models/serials ARE recorded on that form. One copy goes to the Chief of Police or County Sheriff (whichever it falls under as the highest LEO). One copy is faxed/mailed to the atf in dc. The final copy (yes it's in triplicate) stays on file at the FFL, and is typically stapled to the 4473.
Copperhead

User ID: 24964643
United States
11/11/2012 08:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: has anyone else here been delayed buying a firearm???
With my CCW card, I walk out with my gun the same day.

Sorry, you live in a stupid state.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25658088


Same here, but I purchased a rifle from Dunhams a couple weeks back and they still ran me through NICS. It is their store policy, then after the NICS came back clean they had to fax all the paperwork to their corporate headquaters to get the ok from them. They pulled the same thing last year for another purchase.

Any place else in Iowa I pull out the CCW and walk out the door no questions asked.

News