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Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi

 
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Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
.lets take a close look at the matter wether or not He was a Rabbi..

1.He touched the dead
2.He touched the unclean
3.He permitted a menstruating woman to touch Him
4.He was touched by a woman who washed His feet and dried them with her loose uncovered long hair
5.He ate with gentiles
6.He healed on a Sabbath
7.He stopped and impeded the Mosaic Law to be carried out regarding the stoning of the adulteress

etc..

If you know rabbinical law you must know this is all prohibited..unless I am mistaken..

...

Now lets look at His death..
His death was by crucifixion ..as we all know..this was a death reserved to the lowest of the low..not only the worst criminals..but the social outcasts..He wasnt only crucified..he was publicly humiliated..whipped..beaten..stripped naked..spat on..mocked..derided etc...

This was carried out by the occupying forces..by the Romans

Now would the Sanhedrin permit this to be done to one of theirs?

yes? when before or after has a rabbi been tortured and executed in such a manner by the occupying forces?
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
i think the term 'rabbi' was used as teacher.

i also think they were poor students.
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
i think the term 'rabbi' was used as teacher.

i also think they were poor students.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


There are errors in translation in my opinion..Mary of Magdala seems to have referred to Him as Rabboni..which as you say means teacher hf
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11/11/2012 03:31 PM
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
He was not a Pharisee, that´s for sure.
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
Absolutely not, it can be seen from episode where he 12 y.o. talks in temple with high priests and they are astonished by his wisdom. Quite high talmidim was apostle Paul.
We don't have original evangelies, you can check Codex Vaticanus, Codex Sinaiticus, there's about half text. We have "textus receptus", translations transmitted to us through ages. First evangelies were written in peshitta and syriac languages (modern day Syria territory).
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
Absolutely not, it can be seen from episode where he 12 y.o. talks in temple with high priests and they are astonished by his wisdom. Quite high talmidim was apostle Paul.
We don't have original evangelies, you can check Codex Vaticanus, Codex Sinaiticus, there's about half text. We have "textus receptus", translations transmitted to us through ages. First evangelies were written in peshitta and syriac languages (modern day Syria territory).
 Quoting: Rxel


So you agree?
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
And very good point he was barely 12 and had all the Wisdom..

He didnt have to go to Tibet or wherever to learn..lol

He is Wisdom

He is Love

He is Truth
He is Light

He is the way...

before being born He is

after Resurrecting He is

hf
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
Before being born He IS

He appertains to no land and no race..

Because He is spirit made flesh

As His Father..is Spirit

Thats why they couldnt destroy Him..to destyroy Him the only way would have been to destroy His spirit..which is an impossibility in itself
In my opinion

He lived before incarnating

He lives after Resurrecting

He is above time

He is above space
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
He wore His hair LONG

and He had fair hair

and light coloured eyes

He was taller than the average man

and was beautiful in spirit

and in flesh

In My opinion

He was a REBEL

Who came to tear down the falsehoods

and show the way to freedom and truth


cheer

In my opinion
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11/13/2012 04:27 AM
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
Jesus IS God.
Jesus IS the Son of God, the Word made flesh.
Jesus IS the Word of God.
Jesus IS God.

Jesus IS the Messiah.
Jesus IS the ancient of days.
Jesus IS the High Priest.
Jesus IS the great I AM.
Jesus IS the Creator.

Jesus is, and was and is to come.
Jesus IS.

HE IS.
AND ALWAYS WILL BE.

In Jesus Christ.
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
And personally I think if He heard anyone say He was a good jewish Rabbi He would laugh out loud

Just my opinion
:omgiggles:
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
chuckle I find it very funny ..lol
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
Jesus IS God.
Jesus IS the Son of God, the Word made flesh.
Jesus IS the Word of God.
Jesus IS God.

Jesus IS the Messiah.
Jesus IS the ancient of days.
Jesus IS the High Priest.
Jesus IS the great I AM.
Jesus IS the Creator.

Jesus is, and was and is to come.
Jesus IS.

HE IS.
AND ALWAYS WILL BE.

In Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720033


wave

YES!!!
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
He wore His hair LONG

and He had fair hair

and light coloured eyes

He was taller than the average man

and was beautiful in spirit

and in flesh

In My opinion

He was a REBEL

Who came to tear down the falsehoods

and show the way to freedom and truth


cheer

In my opinion
 Quoting: wildhoney


He was a nazirite.

2If a man or woman wants to make a special vow, a vow of separation to the Lord as a Nazirite … 8Throughout the period of his separation he is consecrated to the Lord. Numbers 6
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
I believe..He belonged to no organized group..religious et non

He IS

He IS from before being incarnating

He waited for the moment to become a public figure not because He had to learn..because it had to be timed according to the plans of the Father

In my opinion
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
Oh I know..its all just my opinion :blush: but what if I am right?
hf
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
I am trying to free the concept of CHRIST from man made concepts ..and ideas ..maybe I am mistaken..but then again maybe I am right
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11/13/2012 04:59 AM
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
Rabbi means "master", and Jesus said not to call people master, except Him.

But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
(Matthew 23:8)

Before Jesus died, He was in temple-and-priest Judaism, not Rabbinical Judaism like people are in today. Once the temple was destroyed, the rabbis took over and changed Judaism.

After Jesus rose from the dead, He became High Priest of the new covenant, so He is not in Judaism any more.


26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
(Hebrews 7:26-28)
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
Of course I agree. He was called rabbi by simple people, because he recruited ordinary folk. Pharisees never called him rabbi, they even was so confused, that thought, that he do his miracles by power of Satan.
One reason why he started his service at age 30, is that in sinagogue was allowed to speak publicly men from age 30. Another reason is, because he said, time has come.
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
Of course I agree. He was called rabbi by simple people, because he recruited ordinary folk. Pharisees never called him rabbi, they even was so confused, that thought, that he do his miracles by power of Satan.
One reason why he started his service at age 30, is that in sinagogue was allowed to speak publicly men from age 30. Another reason is, because he said, time has come.
 Quoting: Rxel


Thank you hf

It just feels wonderful to be able to free the concept of Christ from so much that has entangled Him..in my view at least..

So His light can shine through even more

then there is the matter of the bloodline which in my opinion is absolute hogwash..
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11/13/2012 08:32 AM
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
He wore His hair LONG

and He had fair hair

and light coloured eyes

He was taller than the average man

and was beautiful in spirit

and in flesh

In My opinion

He was a REBEL

Who came to tear down the falsehoods

and show the way to freedom and truth


cheer

In my opinion
 Quoting: wildhoney


How do you know he had "light colored hair"?.......sheep
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
We tend..or some..to view God..Christ etc..from our point of view..and we ascribe to God qualities and defects that are human in nature..turning God into a less than perfect being..When God is pure perfect Spirit..Life..manifesting..
or so I see it

Same with Christ..in our view..He has to be of someplace..sometime..some family etc...

why?

Is He is body?

Is He His Blood

Is His power in His body and His Blood?

Or is it the power of the spirit that gives power to His Body and His Blood?

What resurrected His torn and broken body? Did His body do it?

or was it His spirit and the immense power of it?

Does a spirit belong to any place..any land..any nation..any family..any people?
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
He wore His hair LONG

and He had fair hair

and light coloured eyes

He was taller than the average man

and was beautiful in spirit

and in flesh

In My opinion

He was a REBEL

Who came to tear down the falsehoods

and show the way to freedom and truth


cheer

In my opinion
 Quoting: wildhoney


How do you know Yeshua's appearance? I have read nothing in Scriptures of His appearance being fair haired and light eyed and that His hair was long. Not to sound condensending but will you tell me where in the Bible you found that info?
Thank you.
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
Christ is universal and timeless..that is my view

He appeared in a certain time and place..that we know of..because it was supposed to be like that..but He existed before and exists after..

this reality is just a speck in Gods immense creation..And Christ as part of God is everywhere ..His energy permeates all creation ..and is most certainly not limited to this planet or to any nation or city..

My opinion all the above..makes sense to me
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
He wore His hair LONG

and He had fair hair

and light coloured eyes

He was taller than the average man

and was beautiful in spirit

and in flesh

In My opinion

He was a REBEL

Who came to tear down the falsehoods

and show the way to freedom and truth


cheer

In my opinion
 Quoting: wildhoney


How do you know he had "light colored hair"?.......sheep
 Quoting: Mi'Kmaq


bump
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
He wore His hair LONG

and He had fair hair

and light coloured eyes

He was taller than the average man

and was beautiful in spirit

and in flesh

In My opinion

He was a REBEL

Who came to tear down the falsehoods

and show the way to freedom and truth


cheer

In my opinion
 Quoting: wildhoney


How do you know Yeshua's appearance? I have read nothing in Scriptures of His appearance being fair haired and light eyed and that His hair was long. Not to sound condensending but will you tell me where in the Bible you found that info?
Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10055443


some epistles describing Him, like the one allegedly written by Lentulus..some think they are fake..I dont think so since first depictions of Him..with a few exceptions..show Him like this..
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
And personally I think if He heard anyone say He was a good jewish Rabbi He would laugh out loud

Just my opinion
:omgiggles:
 Quoting: wildhoney


Jewish is Khazarian so no he was not in any way Jewish and rabbi means teacher and he was the greatest teacher of all. Just like you are a great whore.

hf
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
Thats why they beat His face so much..and disfigured Him as shown on the shroud in my opinion..because they were jealous of Him..of His Light..and of His physical beauty

It is irrelevant if He was beautiful or not..fair or not..but according to descriptions that I believe are the real deal..He was..
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
And personally I think if He heard anyone say He was a good jewish Rabbi He would laugh out loud

Just my opinion
:omgiggles:
 Quoting: wildhoney


Jewish is Khazarian so no he was not in any way Jewish and rabbi means teacher and he was the greatest teacher of all. Just like you are a great whore.

hf
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I forgive you for insulting me.. And I wish you luck with Gods forgiveness for having insulted me. I dont think He will be amused.
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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
i think the term 'rabbi' was used as teacher.

i also think they were poor students.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


There are errors in translation in my opinion..Mary of Magdala seems to have referred to Him as Rabboni..which as you say means teacher hf
 Quoting: wildhoney


Rabboni, the middle eastern treat?
I never forgive and I never forget

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Re: Why in my opinion Jesus was NOT a Rabbi
.lets take a close look at the matter wether or not He was a Rabbi..

1.He touched the dead
2.He touched the unclean
3.He permitted a menstruating woman to touch Him
4.He was touched by a woman who washed His feet and dried them with her loose uncovered long hair
5.He ate with gentiles
6.He healed on a Sabbath
7.He stopped and impeded the Mosaic Law to be carried out regarding the stoning of the adulteress

etc..

If you know rabbinical law you must know this is all prohibited..unless I am mistaken..

...

Now lets look at His death..
His death was by crucifixion ..as we all know..this was a death reserved to the lowest of the low..not only the worst criminals..but the social outcasts..He wasnt only crucified..he was publicly humiliated..whipped..beaten..stripped naked..spat on..mocked..derided etc...

This was carried out by the occupying forces..by the Romans

Now would the Sanhedrin permit this to be done to one of theirs?

yes? when before or after has a rabbi been tortured and executed in such a manner by the occupying forces?
 Quoting: wildhoney


Jesus is a fairy tale you idjit.





GLP